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    Re: Finland abandons "free money" experiment

    UBI would assuage their consciences while they rake in massive profits unlike any ever seen before. There would be less social unrest while that happened if everyone could still pay rent and feed...
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    Is that what you were doing years back with the hunk of irradiated ore? Aiming for an hormetic response?
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    I have also observed that humans are at their best in times of disaster. That doesn't mean we should implement a system that institutes disaster as the standard of social order.

    I cannot...
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    There are only two ways to run a society. Either there is some open market system where everyone is encouraged and assisted to create their own method of survival, or there is a form of subservience...
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    Omni, that is a great table.

    It should not be hidden away in this obscure location. It really deserves a thread of its own.

    Discussing the benefits of a UBI is fun and enlightening. It may be a...
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    My concern is to address why is there a need for UBI? If there are ten of us in the world would we all be equally well off? Would we get to do what we want? I don't think the answers are that...
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    I don't understand the mentality, either. No pride in a job well done? No camaraderie with fellow workers, getting a beer after work to wash down the dirt and grime? This is how wealth is created....
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    Immigrants to Canada are offered a free orientation class. In it, the people are coached in how to apply for government assistance - what to say, what not to say.

    I know many who still refer to...
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    Good counters on my points there Mountain, I must say.

    Capitalism certainly has its winners. A rather small minority, to be sure, but 20% of the population did see a rise in its standard of...
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    Target, there's starving and then there's starving. I've gone hungry on a few occasions and it felt like starving but I really wasn't because if I was truly in danger I could have swallowed my pride...
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    Re: Finland abandons "free money" experiment

    This isn't about me.

    And it isn't regional. It is global. All those migrants you mention are the group, the majority of the world's population, by the way, that I refer to and their doppelgangers...
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    Re: Finland abandons "free money" experiment

    This system cannot end without disaster. It is only after that disaster that a new way can be implemented. This is because this system is so askew that our sense of normal is way out of whack. It is...
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