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    Default Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas, 59 dead, 546 injured

    Jeff Rense tells Jay Weidner that this is one of the most extraordinary personal-witness vidoes he's ever seen, about anything. He says every American should watch it. I'd agree.

    Comments by Alexandra Bruce at Forbidden Knowledge TV:
    A young man named Gio Rios did a livestream on Facebook last Sunday and I’ve edited out some of his small talk (especially in the beginning) and added some titles. He made this livestream because he is appalled at the lies of the US Government and Mainstream Media. He states unequivocally, “What happened exactly one week ago was a terrorist attack. It was group-organized, it was choreographed and I don’t want anyone thinking it was a one-person shooter…This was a terrorist attack on US soil and they’re still out there, on our soil, planning another attack.”

    Gio says he was staying at the Luxor hotel with his girlfriend, Marissa the weekend of the Las Vegas shooting. They went to the Route 91 festival across the street and were watching Jason Aldean perform near the front row, Stage Left when the shots began firing and people all around them began dropping. (They were in the area closest to the sights of the guns being fired from the Mandalay Bay hotel).

    Gio describes hearing the horrible sound of bullets penetrating human flesh as he fled the venue with Marissa on Giles Street, only to hear more shots coming from the direction of the Hooters restaurant on Tropicana Boulevard. He and Marissa hid behind a car before being herded into the Tropicana Hotel with dozens of other fleeing, bleeding concertgoers, one of whom died in the hallway.

    While in this hallway, a very calm, muscular, light brown-skinned man with a black polymer suitcase ordered him into the casino. Gio refused and asked what was in the suitcase (this was a chaotic crisis situation with a dead man beside them on the floor and this cool and collected man had a suitcase). The man looked him dead in the eye and was about to show Gio what was inside when very rapid bursts of gunfire erupted in the Tropicana casino and the man ran in that direction. Jason’s impression was that people were being herded into the casino to be killed and that this man would have killed him, if he hadn’t been distracted.

    (During the question session at the end, which I’ve edited out, Gio describes the man as speaking unaccented Southern Californian English and looking like he was maybe of “Armenian” ethnicity, which I take to mean that he looked like a male Kim Kardashian).

    After escaping through a door, Gio and Marissa were in an alleyway when shots began firing again, from fairly close range in the direction of the New York New York hotel. They then ran back into the alley and hid inside a dumpster for three hours.

    It was from this location that he heard helicopters flying over the Strip for several hours. He asks why, if by then Stephen Paddock had already been found dead, that the police would still be looking for perpetrators, if they were so certain that they had found their Lone Gunman. He says, “They knew that there were multiple shooters.”

    After three hours in the dumpster, he and Marissa emerged and a Las Vegas Metro cop immediately told them to get inside the Tropicana hotel, which had by then been secured. They lay on floor of a convention room for a couple of hours and waited for all of the hotels on the strip to check and clear all of the rooms so they could go back. He comments, “Again, why were they doing that if there had only been one shooter?”

    When the TV was turned on and it was announced that, “Two were confirmed dead and 20 injured,” Gio and Marissa were shocked because they had seen with their own eyes that the casualties were much greater. The local TV station flashed the phone number for the FBI tip line. Gio immediately called the FBI and relayed everything that’s been stated here. At that point, he thought this was the right thing to do. He’s not so sure about his safety anymore (!)

    Gio describes staying up all night and finally getting back to their room at the Luxor hotel and watching Trump’s speech at 7AM. He says, “It wasn’t right…It was a terrorist attack, OK?…There’s no way in Hell that a 64-year-old, untrained man could shoot an automatic military grade weapon from the 34th (sic) floor at a declining grade and hit people…[he couldn’t do that] for ten minutes straight. There’s no way. And if you believe that, I’m sorry. I have no words for you…it was a terrorist attack. Donald Trump can’t say that because he doesn’t want that [on his watch]…but who gives a sh*t?

    “Be real! Tell the people the truth! If you are running our country, you need to tell them the truth…this is immense, people! This was so huge. This was a terrorist attack on US soil and they’re still out there, on our soil, planning another attack.”

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    Default Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas, 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    Marikins previously posted the video below which covers the "towers" at 17:30 on the video. Scott Binsack went to the area and photographed the "towers" (ferris wheel pedestals) and said they were hollow and his pictures show an entrance at ground level. He said that this area was closed off by police and there were ladders in the "towers". He also indicated later in the video that there were small windows in the "towers".
    Good grief - that Scott Binsack takes 4 hours to say what could be said in 20 minutes. He rambles, repeats and rants on and on and on .

    But he's got a good b*ll sh*t detector and he's been going to Las Vegas for years (in the construction business, I think he said), and he was in Vegas just the day or so after the shooting. He has contacts in Vegas and he talks to lots of ordinary, honest, working people.

    ===

    Here's a more concise report from him, which he uploaded on 7 Oct 2017, six days after the shooting, on where he figures the shooting came from.

    Go to the 5:03 mark in the following video, where he points out the Mandalay, the "twin towers", and a white hotel a bit further off (from where he's standing).

    In the space of about one and a half minutes, starting at 5:03 in the above video, you can get a good sense, from the ground, of the layout.

    From what I can tell by looking at maps, the white hotel that Binsack points out in the above video is the back half of the Tropicana (which property has two high rise hotel buildings on the same property.) These concrete "twin towers" and Tropicana hotel both overlook the "Las Vegas Village" property, where the shootings occurred, at the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

    Binsack figures that the first shots came from the "twin towers", which are a pair of 5 meter diameter, 20 plus story tall, concrete towers that are left over from a failed project to build a giant ferris wheel. The two towers are hollow, each with a door visible at the bottom, and with openings (unadorned concrete holes) part way up. They overlook the "shooting gallery" from behind the stage. That's why (Binsack claims -- this part I have not verified) some video of the initial shootings from the audience in the front, near to the stage, have people pointing at and above the stage as the source of the shots.

    If I were a sniper wanting to take shots at Route 91 Harvest Festival goers, I cannot imagine a better "snipers nest" to work from than these "twin towers".

    Binsack figures that the second burst of shots came from the white hotel (the Tropicana, from what I can tell looking at maps). He reports that the windows on this hotel do open from the inside, as it was a building built before the Las Vegas building code requiring that the windows on high rise structures do not open. He said he has (I haven't looked yet) video of him walking outside this hotel, showing open windows.

    ===

    In the 4 hour video that Truman Cash posted above, Binsack makes a connection between his theory on where the shots were fired and the following analysis by Mike Adams.

    In this video that he posted 3 days ago now, Mike Adams analyzes the rifle sounds and concludes that there were at least two shooters, one at a distance of 250 to 275 yards from where the bullets hit the ground, and the other at a distance of 425 to 475 yards from where the bullets hit the ground.

    Mike Adams does his analysis by comparing the timing of the sounds of the bullets hitting the ground, and the sound of the rifle blast. Since rifle bullets travel faster than sound, they arrive first, before the sound of the gun fire. Since high frequency sounds don't travel in air as well as low frequence sounds, the sound of a nearby bullet strike will have louder high frequency content than the sound of gun shot a distance away. At these distances that timing difference can easily be a half second, which is enough to show up on smart phone video, with the right audio and spectrum analysis tools, which Adams has and knows how to use.

    Mike Adams listed some places that the closer shooter (250 to 275 yards) might have came from, including a mound of dirt left over from the abandoned construction of the giant ferris wheel, but he doesn't seem to know that those "twin towers" were hollow, 5 meter (15 foot) wide concrete towers reaching high into the sky, just 250 to 275 yards from the shooting victims, above and behind the stage. Mike Adams also presumes that the shots from 425 to 475 yards came from the Mandalay, but Binsack presents a variety of evidence that most of these further off shots came from the white hotel that is the back half of the Tropicana.

    ===

    Some other evidence that Binsack mentions in his videos, and some that others have noted too; some of which has been reported above, and some that I've heard first from Binsack:
    • The outside of the Tropicana Las Vegas Casino Hotel is lit up in a nice "New World Order" purple color at night.
    • The initial reports, beginning on 2 Oct 2017, the day after the shooting, said that the "shooting lasted nine to 11 minutes" (as reported for example here).
    • The windows on the 32nd floor from which Paddock allegedly shot were 9 stories down from the top, and 11 windows apart.
    • The maids in this 32nd floor were told to stay home, not come to work, the day of 1 Oct 2017, the day of the shooting.
    • As others have noted, the shooting took place across from the black pyramid and sphinx of the Luxor hotel.
    • The brilliant light on top of the Luxor is not normally lit up, but beginning a few days before the shooting, began to be turned on nightly.
    • Reports of shootings at several other hotels in the area were phoned into police, just before the real shootings, apparently to distract and delay the police.
    • So far as Binsack knows, no one was actually shot at any of these other hotels.
    • Binsack has walked around the Mandalay and reports that no other windows are broken out, except for the two supposedly used by Paddock on the 32nd floor.
    • Binsack does a detailed analysis of the "taxi lady's" recording of shooting sounds and muzzle flashes, finding that it is consistent with his analysis of the sources of the gun fire.
    • Binsack has family in the undertaker business, and they concluded that the photo of the supposedly shot Paddock had photoshopped blood and that that body had been dead too long (rigor mortis setting in) for the published timeline.
    • Others, not Binsack, have noticed that the corpse in this photo supposedly of Paddock does not show the "13" tattoo on the neck that Paddock had.
    • Workers in various casinos reported that Paddock routinely drank alcholic beverages, contrary to the (likely fake) news that he never drank.
    • Some of the wagering and gambling tables at the Mandalay were shut down, hours before the shooting began.
    • The construction site surrounding the "twin towers" continues to be kept off limits from the public, nearly a week after the shooting.
    • Binsack expects more, escalating false flags ... ending up with blaming Iran or North Korea, justifying a major escalation.
    • Binsack expects that a "Freedom Act" or some such will be put into law, first in Nevada and then in the US, mandating new high tech scanners in sports stadiums and arenas, hotels, casinos, government buildings, etc, etc.
    • Michael Chertoff and others stand to profit greatly from these scanner sales, as they did from the airport scanners after 9/11.
    • Note that all the usual places that people are gathered in the event of a major local disaster or martial law will end up with these scanners and other high tech security.
    • As others have noted, MGM CEO Murren sold 80% of his MGM stock in Sept 2017 (MGM owns both the Mandalay and the Tropicana.)
    Of course, those who have been paying any attention to main stream news the last sixteen years will notice that the words I emboldened above, "twin towers" and "9/11", sound familiar. That's a pure coincidence, I'm sure.
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    Default Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas, 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Gio describes staying up all night and finally getting back to their room at the Luxor hotel and watching Trump’s speech at 7AM. He says, “It wasn’t right…It was a terrorist attack, OK?…There’s no way in Hell that a 64-year-old, untrained man could shoot an automatic military grade weapon from the 34th (sic) floor at a declining grade and hit people…[he couldn’t do that] for ten minutes straight. There’s no way. And if you believe that, I’m sorry. I have no words for you…it was a terrorist attack. Donald Trump can’t say that because he doesn’t want that [on his watch]…but who gives a sh*t?

    “Be real! Tell the people the truth! If you are running our country, you need to tell them the truth…this is immense, people! This was so huge. This was a terrorist attack on US soil and they’re still out there, on our soil, planning another attack.”
    Unfortunately, as best as I can figure, the "terrorists" who carried out this operation include and/or control key parts of the US government.

    I would not bother asking those running our country to tell the truth, or to protect us from the terrorists.

    Rather they are the terrorists. I'd be looking for ways to protect myself from the terrorists who have hijacked my country and rained down bombs, bullets, and terrorism across the planet, for my entire (thankfully long) life.
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    Default Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas, 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    I've seen this before. This letter to Paul Craig Roberts. And after viewing some of the victims in hospital... I decided not to post this article because I believe that this doctor is a deep-state 'plant' pretending to be a military surgeon. He is just there to add more confusion for distraction purposes. Jeff Rense also agrees on this one.
    My take is that many of those being interviewed by main stream media in the first few days after the shooting were crisis actors ... fake. If these are the videos that this so called "military surgeon" watched, then I would agree with his analysis that these were fake victims.

    It's on youtube and similar videos uploaded by ordinary people that the real events (along with some more fake news) appears.

    In other words, we have both real mass murder, and fake mass murder.

    The truth and the fiction is confused and mixed together.
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    Default Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas, 59 dead, 546 injured

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    I don't know where fox13now.com (the Salt Lake City Fox News channel) got the image.
    Source: David Becker/Getty Images News/Getty Images
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    Becker is a professional photographer:

    Getty Images work
    The following IBTimes article has more information on Becker as the source of these images:
    Photographer captures scenes of mass shooting at country music festival near Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas:
    David Becker, a photojournalist covering the country music festival in Las Vegas for Getty Images, braved machine gun fire to take photos of the mass shooting.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    The outside of the Tropicana Las Vegas Casino Hotel is lit up in a nice "New World Order" purple color at night.
    The IBTimes article, that I just linked in the previous post, has the following image showing the purple Tropicana building from which Binsack figures that the second round of fire came:
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    Default Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas, 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
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    I don't know where fox13now.com (the Salt Lake City Fox News channel) got the image.
    Source: David Becker/Getty Images News/Getty Images
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    Becker is a professional photographer:

    Getty Images work
    The following IBTimes article has more information on Becker as the source of these images:
    Photographer captures scenes of mass shooting at country music festival near Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas:
    David Becker, a photojournalist covering the country music festival in Las Vegas for Getty Images, braved machine gun fire to take photos of the mass shooting.
    I was a journalist for 10+ years. If I had been assigned to do an article on that concert, I would not be standing there taking notes with it raining bullets and people running, injured and killed. I don't think it would be crazy to question why Becker was there. Did Getty assign him to take photos of the concert? Was the concert that big of a deal for Getty to send a photographer to take photos? It could be that he went for a local paper, but the shooting images were bought by Getty.

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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    I was a journalist for 10+ years. If I had been assigned to do an article on that concert, I would not be standing there taking notes with it raining bullets ...
    I was a journalist for 0- years. I wouldn't be standing there either .

    But I have done foolish things in my youth. Perhaps this guy is just a different flavor of fool.

    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    I don't think it would be crazy to question why Becker was there.
    Yes - one does wonder - if whomever sent him to the concert had prior knowledge that something unusual would go down.
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Look what Jim Stone found buried into Mike Adams' "Dirt Mounds":[INDENT]HUGE TWIST:

    Mike Adams bullet trajectory analysis, when pegged down to a specific location, matches the abandoned Skyvue towers perfectly.



    The skyvue towers are what is left of an abandoned Ferris wheel project that started five years ago. They are the supports that were supposed to hold the wheel. For whatever reason it was not deemed econimically viable and they abandoned it.

    The towers stand 200 feet tall, and have mechanical access doors and an interior stairwell inside of them for providing service access to the Ferris wheel hub.


    VERY IMPORTANT:
    Trolls are trolling the towers badly, and I always use troll behavior to gauge the validity of a topic. Trolls are doing everything they can to divert the public away from these towers. These towers are so close to the concert that they are considered to be at near point blank range for a basic 5.56 round (not even an updated boosted one.) Their much closer proximity to the concert would explain why the gunfire was so loud. Their position also would explain why people in the videos appear to have had temporary shelter in front of the stage until gunmen opened fire from other angles. Their position also would explain why the performers and people back stage said they first became aware of the shooting when bullets started hitting the roof of the stage.
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    In the 4 hour video that Truman Cash posted above, Binsack makes a connection between his theory on where the shots were fired and the following analysis by Mike Adams.

    In this video that he posted 3 days ago now, Mike Adams analyzes the rifle sounds and concludes that there were at least two shooters, one at a distance of 250 to 275 yards from where the bullets hit the ground, and the other at a distance of 425 to 475 yards from where the bullets hit the ground.

    Mike Adams does his analysis by comparing the timing of the sounds of the bullets hitting the ground, and the sound of the rifle blast. Since rifle bullets travel faster than sound, they arrive first, before the sound of the gun fire. Since high frequency sounds don't travel in air as well as low frequence sounds, the sound of a nearby bullet strike will have louder high frequency content than the sound of gun shot a distance away. At these distances that timing difference can easily be a half second, which is enough to show up on smart phone video, with the right audio and spectrum analysis tools, which Adams has and knows how to use.

    Mike Adams listed some places that the closer shooter (250 to 275 yards) might have came from, including a mound of dirt left over from the abandoned construction of the giant ferris wheel, but he doesn't seem to know that those "twin towers" were hollow, 5 meter (15 foot) wide concrete towers reaching high into the sky, just 250 to 275 yards from the shooting victims, above and behind the stage. Mike Adams also presumes that the shots from 425 to 475 yards came from the Mandalay, but Binsack presents a variety of evidence that most of these further off shots came from the white hotel that is the back half of the Tropicana.
    Aha - once again - Hervé beat me to it - a half day earlier with twice the facts.

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    Default Re: Active shooter in Las Vegas, 59 dead, 546 injured

    Robert Downey Jr... makes a statement...

    Robert Downey Jr.: Las Vegas Shooting Was ‘Satanic Blood Sacrifice’

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    Date: Friday, 13-Oct-2017 00:48:05

    Ironically, Downey's movie Character 'Ironman' fought Capt America in a Civil War. Ironman was on the side of the Liberal/Dems..

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    The Las Vegas shooting was a “Satanic blood sacrifice to please occult interests“, according to Robert Downey Jr., who claims the establishment elite are now living in fear of President Donald Trump’s attempts to drain the swamp, including his strong campaign to arrest pedophiles.

    The elite have now “accelerated their agenda, bringing their endgame closer,” claims Robert Downey Jr., explaining that they want to “turn America into a prison.”

    Robert Downey Jr., who has been in Atlanta filming the latest installment of the Marvel “Avengers” series, also lashed out at the official narrative surrounding the Las Vegas shooting, telling production staff that he has stayed at Mandalay Bay and there is no way alleged shooter Stephen Paddock could have smuggled 27 high-powered weapons into his hotel suite.

    “I’ve been to that hotel [Mandalay Bay], they have special weapons detectors installed and there is no way they would have allowed weapons in unless they were cooperating with either a federal law enforcement team or, you know, a fake law enforcement team.”


    “The whole story stinks to high heaven.”

    In August the Iron Man star exposed a huge Hollywood network of pedophilia, prostitution, and human trafficking that involves a whole host of what he described as “sick f*cks“.

    Now Downey Jr. is taking aim at the deep state.

    “You know there was a FEMA drill taking place in Las Vegas that day? There was a FEMA drill and then suddenly it went live. Took all the actors by surprise. Suddenly it’s real bullets. We’ve seen this happen so many times before.”

    “They didn’t even send an Emergency Response Team for hours – not for the drill, not for the real dead and injured. That many people did not have to die. Many more died for lack of a proper response caused by confusion. It was treason in high places.”

    Downey Jr. doesn’t believe the FBI are responsible for the attack, but he does believe they know more than they are willing to admit, and they know exactly who they should be questioning.

    “They have their hands tied. You can see the fear on their faces. They know what they are dealing with and it’s above their pay grade.”

    “Really they should be tying these top guys down. We are at a unique point in history where maybe something can be done about the power structure that has infiltrated the deep state. These treasonous psychopaths should be questioned intensively, and with the use of polygraphs and if necessary truth-serum.”

    Downey Jr. also insisted his theory – that the US government will not only let the perpetrators walk free, but will also allow them to profit to the tune of billions by selling unneeded security services and equipment, in the process turning the United States into a giant prison – is not far-fetched at all.

    “JFK was assassinated by the CIA and Mossad. Martin Luther King was assassinated by an Army sniper working for the FBI. The USS Liberty, strafed and torpedoed by the Israelis, with a long-running cover-up by the government led by Lyndon f##king Johnson. And don’t forget 9/11,” Downey Jr. said to prove his point.

    But in Downey Jr.’s opinion, the Las Vegas tragedy is also an opportunity.

    “Let me spell it out even more clearly for you – even if this was a government massacre using actual CIA and FBI employees in support of a top secret “compartmented” massacre on top of a FEMA drill, the President and the new Director of the FBI have a unique opportunity here.”

    They can “investigate, illuminate, indict, and incarcerate.”

    “The lawless ones have been dug in deep as a tick on my hound’s ass for a long time now. Everyone knows this. But if this happens, if we all get to see a billionaire do hard time, it will change America for the better. It will restore the legitimacy of the federal government in everybody’s eyes.”

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...cgi?read=85526

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    Well Mr Robert Downey Jr, you got some - even most - of that right, but your tunnel vision is, IMO, a bit... myopic (and, dare I say it, anti-Trump? )
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    (and, dare I say it, anti-Trump? )
    I thought it was more pro-Trump, giving Trump the benefit of the doubt that he might actually intend to, and have some opportunity to, drain the swamp a little.

    But, my response is seriously off topic, so I'd seriously suggest you not reply .

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    Re: Robert Downey Jr
    This appears to be coming from our old friend Baxter Dmitri
    #fakenews

    Too bad the article nails it!

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    Not very fair Paul.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    (and, dare I say it, anti-Trump? )
    I thought it was more pro-Trump, giving Trump the benefit of the doubt that he might actually intend to, and have some opportunity to, drain the swamp a little.

    But, my response is seriously off topic, so I'd seriously suggest you not reply .

    LOL I'm having a seriously hard time with my (mis)interpretations tonight!

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    As the news cycle moves on , stories have been breaking the
    biggest being Harvey Weinstein and others are still in the background.
    North Korea, Iran , Russiagate , Puerto Rico Trumps various tweets
    and domestic agendas. Others are quietening down and OJ slipped
    out of prison.

    Usually by now this shooting would have been tied up by the authorities
    and swallowed by the mainstream press. The window of opportunity of
    the truth is closing but there is more witness and film footage than usual,
    even though the FBI are doing there best to shut it down.

    Anthony Cumia says he's normally sceptic in these matters thinks this stinks...

    Published on 12 Oct 2017
    It seems odd that despite Harvey Weinstein's abuse of women being an
    open secret it was revealed now right after the Las Vegas shooting.

    ================================================== =

    WITNESS Smelled Gunpowder & FBI Wipes Phones Of Witnesses

    Published on 12 Oct 2017
    Eyewitness account casts doubt on the official story. But other witnesses have had
    their cellphones confiscated by the FBI then returned with everything from the day
    of the shooting wiped off.
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    As the news cycle moves on , stories have been breaking the
    biggest being Harvey Weinstein and others are still in the background.
    North Korea, Iran , Russiagate , Puerto Rico Trumps various tweets
    and domestic agendas. Others are quietening down and OJ slipped
    out of prison.

    Usually by now this shooting would have been tied up by the authorities
    and swallowed by the mainstream press. The window of opportunity of
    the truth is closing but there is more witness and film footage than usual,
    even though the FBI are doing there best to shut it down.

    Anthony Cumia says he's normally sceptic in these matters thinks this stinks...

    Published on 12 Oct 2017
    It seems odd that despite Harvey Weinstein's abuse of women being an
    open secret it was revealed now right after the Las Vegas shooting.

    ================================================== =

    WITNESS Smelled Gunpowder & FBI Wipes Phones Of Witnesses

    Published on 12 Oct 2017
    Eyewitness account casts doubt on the official story. But other witnesses have had
    their cellphones confiscated by the FBI then returned with everything from the day
    of the shooting wiped off.
    Yes, here in the UK the last reported update on the Las Vegas atrocity was updated on October 3rd on the UK Guardian newspaper site. When I checked this out a couple of days ago there wasn't a whiff of any activity at all after that date. They're doing what they usually do; attempting to bury this under a pile of other 'snow' news. And that's the Guardian for crissakes. Of course they are part of the machine, but, of all the mainstream news outlets they usually tend to dig a little harder and publish. And, nothing at all on UK television (BBC, ITV etc..) either.

    I am very close to committing to the Guardian a typed volley of invective and disgrace at them for ducking the issue entirely. Still, I'm not surprised. It's gone downhill over the last few years (I've been reading it for over 20 years). Who knows, there's been a recent change of Editor too which would account for some of that for sure.

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    Joe Biggs Calls B.S. On Bump Stock Story | Vegas Shooting



    Published on 12 Oct 2017
    Joe Biggs, formerly a reporter from InfoWars, and I talk purely about the weaponry
    and guns that they are claiming the Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock used and why
    its essentially impossible that he used only weapons with bump stocks to carry out
    the attack.

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    I like Tucker though he is totally mainstream and some of what he
    says is B S from an alternate view as he says people come to the
    US because of real justice , and he would not spread conspiracy
    theories. But he does raise big problems in the mainstream story so
    far but will not tackle any of the big questions , but still interesting
    to keep parallel tabs on the cover up operations which the FBI will
    surely put out soon. Or they will try and wait it out for weeks/months
    hoping it will become history in the news cycle like all the others....



    Published on 12 Oct 2017
    Tucker's Thoughts: It has now been nearly two weeks since the Las Vegas
    shooting and, unbelievably, nobody can answer even the most basic questions
    about what happened. #Tucker
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    I would like to find an original, reliable source for these Downey quotes. Preliminary searching shows it spreading around, but not evidence for validity as yet.

    If he said all this, high five for sticking his neck out.

    One thing I would take issue with is Mossad involved in JFK.

    CIA/Bush, Mafia, Johnson, Texas Oil oligarchs, possibly MJ-12 if burned doc to be believed, etc. yes, but I thought that was pre-Mossad having its hand in so many false flags, including co-leading 9/11, in my understanding.

    later update:

    https://www.gossipcop.com/robert-dow...ice-fake-news/

    Quote It’s quite apparent that the two sites conspired to craft this illegitimate tale. And it’s not the first time they’ve spread inauthentic quotes falsely attributed to the movie star. In August, Gossip Cop exposed a Neon Nettle story that outrageously claimed Downey “blew the whistle” on a supposed “elite Hollywood pedophile ring.” That was fake news, too. It’s just especially disgusting to see the same deceptive clickbait practices being applied to a tragic mass shooting.
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    Article on Financial Anomalies Surrounding the Las Vegas Attack by Kip Herriage of VRA Letter.com on Medium.com:
    https://medium.com/@kipherriage/insi...7-97ec791aac74

    This article identifies heavy levels of insider trading at MGM from SEC insider transaction reports, and updates it with a number of interested parties like OSI System (people detection systems), Olin Corp (Winchester ammunition) and others who had huge increases in call option prices beginning 9/11/17. He closes with saying

    Quote The question I might ask is, “Did someone else profit from the heinous acts of 10/1/17? Possibly the planners?”

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