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    ISIS claims responsibility for Las Vegas shooting massacre


    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    Terror group says suspect Stephen Paddock was 'soldier' who converted
    to Islam months ago; John Roberts reports from the White House
    So in reality CIA OP then?

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    Quote Posted by Merry Mom (here)
    I always assume it's staged unless proven otherwise. If not staged, the government is to blame anyway via the current state of our "culture". Looks like I will have to go on another news blackout until they stop pretending to care about this more than any of the other well over fifty deaths that happened that day. God bless the souls of anyone who left the Earth in the last 24 hours. Catch you on the other side.
    I know multiple people that where there. Definitely Not Staged... False Flag ? TBD....

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    hmmmm.... the mass shooting takes place in front of the black Pyramid with Light cap on top 'Luxor Hotel'.... Coincidence? Message?

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote So in reality CIA OP then?
    Who knows at this stage ? just following the usual pattern of these events whether
    staged or a genuine shooter with a grievance , innocent people die at these events.
    9/11 ,7/7 & others, false flags or not many innocents were murdered at each.


    Update....



    Las Vegas shooting: At least 58 dead at Mandalay Bay Hotel


    At least 58 people have been killed and hundreds injured in a mass shooting at a
    Las Vegas concert.A gunman, named as 64-year-old Nevada resident Stephen
    Paddock, opened fire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel towards an
    open-air music festival attended by 22,000.

    He killed himself as police stormed the room where 10 guns were found.In an
    address from the White House, President Donald Trump described the attack
    as "pure evil".

    Read More.....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41466116
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    With all the cameras in Vegas hotels, how did one person check into a hotel with eight rifles and nobody was suspicious ??? Also they said he had made two shooting platforms... Sounds like trade craft ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    With all the cameras in Vegas hotels, how did one person check into a hotel with eight rifles and nobody was suspicious ??? Also they said he had made two shooting platforms... Sounds like trade craft ...
    Golf Bag. I've never had mine checked before.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Apparently it's Russia when it comes to voting. ISIS when it comes to k1ll1ng.

    This claim today describes the shooter in Las Vegas as a “soldier” of the Isis, who converted to Islam several months ago. This is theoretically possible of course but seems far fetched, not least because he committed suicide.

    “It was an act of pure evil.'' Donald Trump said earlier sound déja vu for me...
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    Looks like they finally made up their minds which cover story to use and they're going with the lone nut version. CNN says seconds ago no ties to international terrorists. the only twist is that they so far can't ascribe any 'message' the manchurian lone nut had to give us.

    Strange, first we have the american institution of football attacked with race hustling weaponry and now another 'american' institution of country music....

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    Quote Apparently it's Russia when it comes to voting. ISIS when it comes to k1ll1ng.
    You reminded me of an article I saw earlier, Russia has a large muslim minority in
    the southern regions and is why they are worried about ISIS in the Middle East.
    Many fighters have joined from Russia and they are worried when they return home
    and have been fighting terrorism for decades, Not that the western press in
    general would let their readers know.They are more interested in a corporate
    'bogey' man for the mil ind complex's. Not that Russia does not have it faults.

    ISIS 'sleeper cell' neutralized in Moscow - FSB

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up3bBy6d3SQ

    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    Federal Security Service (FSB) has detained in Moscow members
    of a ‘sleeper cell’ of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) who
    planned to carry out terrorist attacks in public places,

    ================================================== ==
    ================================================== ==

    The 100 year anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution is this October, Alex has
    been predicting TPTB will be making a move on Trump. Who knows ? But they
    do like dates.....Alex can be dramatic but he and his sources have been saying
    this for a while.

    Alex Jones Predicted Vegas Attack On Friday



    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    On the Friday edition of The Alex Jones Show, Alex predicted that early October the
    revolution would start and build up to Nov 4th.

    ================================================== ==
    ================================================== ==

    Antifa VS The United States November Fourth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jokq-0Eyuk

    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    Alex Jones, Doug Hagmann, and Larry Pinkney break down the coming civil war
    event planned by Antifa and all of its nefarious conspirators against the American
    people on November 4th, 2017.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    Looks like they finally made up their minds which cover story to use and they're going with the lone nut version. CNN says seconds ago no ties to international terrorists. the only twist is that they so far can't ascribe any 'message' the manchurian lone nut had to give us.

    Strange, first we have the american institution of football attacked with race hustling weaponry and now another 'american' institution of country music....
    Video showing possible gunfire from a lower floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00001371177240

    Edit: Need FB account to see video ... after looking at it again, it may just be the angle of video that makes it look like shots were being fired from a lower floor of the Hotel
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    I must admit one of first thoughts was this would be an ideal excuse to
    round up automatic weapons.

    what you need to know about new gun laws for 2017

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecmviwDoF94
    What a terrible situation. The above video is not the laws for Nevada or the US, just the new laws for California for 2017. Nevada has some relatively loose gun laws compared to other parts of the country. Even so, there is a federal background check for such automatic weapons, plus the cost is prohibitive for most people interested in shooting, for either sport or hunting. For example, cost of paperwork aside, a semi automatic AR10 in 308 cal, like in the video above goes for under $3000 whereas a fully automatic rifle of the same caliber / type would go for between $20,000 to $70,000 depending on brand etc.

    It is very rare to hear of a fully automatic weapon being used in a mass shooting, it's the first time I have heard of it in the past ten years. The weapons in his room could easily have been in pieces and stored in regular luggage, the longest part being the barrel, depending on the gun from 16 to 25 inches, so very easily concealable, a golf bag would clearly go unnoticed, especially if he moved them from his vehicle in the early hours.

    I'm not making a case for defending the ownership of fully automatic weapons, not my cup of tea, but banning them would not have stopped ANY of the mass shootings of the last decade. Much as banning pocket knives in the UK did not stop those crazies on London bridge recently who used kitchen knives. Mind you, the numbers would have been far less.. Crazies find a way, that's why they are so hard to catch. On the face of it, it does seem to be a crazy lone wolf type situation. However the woman declaring that everyone will die over thirty minutes before it happened raises big alarm bells and red flags for sure. My thoughts and prayers go to the families of those wounded or killed. What a terrible situation.... N
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    BIGGEST instant clue to me now - when the 'shooter' is immediately reported as dead.

    A dead shooter relieves 'officials' from all sorts of explaining problems and lets them get away with saying anything they want about who and why, let alone any trial.

    We will NEVER REALLY KNOW if ANYTHING being said about WHO has any shred of truth.

    Media is being told what to say. PERIOD.

    So far I've already read conflicting reports that 'the shooter' was killed by police and that he committed suicide.

    To me a dead 'shooter' means that it's very likely something huge other than ANY reported accounting of the person/story is hidden.

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    I'm looking at the distance from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel to where the outdoor gig was being held, and to where the crowd were. I'm thinking that the accuracy of an AR-15-type weapon, at that distance, would be well outside of the envelope.

    Also, when listening to video of the shots being fired, I'm sure I'm hearing two different weapons. There is a low-level thud-thud type report (maybe an AK or similar) and then the more familiar crack-crack of an AR-type weapon.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by The Crimson Horse Blanket (here)
    I'm looking at the distance from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel to where the outdoor gig was being held, and to where the crowd were. I'm thinking that the accuracy of an AR-15-type weapon, at that distance, would be well outside of the envelope.

    Also, when listening to video of the shots being fired, I'm sure I'm hearing two different weapons. There is a low-level thud-thud type report (maybe an AK or similar) and then the more familiar crack-crack of an AR-type weapon.
    I agree. A very long shot indeed. Especially for a 223 cal / 5.56 cal (AR15 / SAW) or 7.62 cal (AK47 / 74). He would have had to have held the aim point much much, much higher than the targets to just hit anything, never mind actually aiming accurately. But with an automatic rifle that would be relatively easy to do, even without tracer ammunition to guide your shots. It was a huge crowd, like shooting at fish in a barrel.

    You may be right about the AK / AR, but it sounds like a SAW to me, (M249) but with the buildings all around the acoustics could throw the sound off as well as muffle or echo the rapport of the shots. Horrible, truly evil... N
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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    With all the cameras in Vegas hotels, how did one person check into a hotel with eight rifles and nobody was suspicious ??? Also they said he had made two shooting platforms... Sounds like trade craft ...
    Because it's more likely absolutely nothing about the shooter happened as reported. Were there eight rifles?? Did someone 'check into the hotel'? Were there two platforms? IT'S A STORY.

    I have now learned to view ALL these extreme events as if EVERYTHING you are hearing from the media is fiction and/or a twisted fact. I suggest we all completely forget taking anything at face value instantly right now... and instead take note of the unsubstantiated claims and cracks in the narrative that will start to show.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by FictionLReality (here)
    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    Looks like they finally made up their minds which cover story to use and they're going with the lone nut version. CNN says seconds ago no ties to international terrorists. the only twist is that they so far can't ascribe any 'message' the manchurian lone nut had to give us.

    Strange, first we have the american institution of football attacked with race hustling weaponry and now another 'american' institution of country music....
    Video showing possible gunfire from a lower floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00001371177240

    Edit: Need FB account to see video ... after looking at it again, it may just be the angle of video that makes it look like shots were being fired from a lower floor of the Hotel
    Video here for those without FB..

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DanBilzer...870016/video/1

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Pueblo
    To my layman's untrained eyes, by the way the lights flash at the same time the sounds go off, it appears to be coming from 3 or 4 different guns / people??

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    Just as a quick tangent...you do *not* get a fully automatic weapon just by passing a background check.

    It's done by acquiring a fairly expensive type of gun license, that would usually be given to, for example, a business owner, someone who can show they have something big to defend; also, the guards at Federal Reserve branches have them, although that's a little different, even though it basically is a big business with something to defend.

    When purchasing as an individual, the permission depends on the Sheriff of your county. So for example in my area, I could make a list of "machine gun" counties, versus others that rarely allow them. On a wild guess, I'd think that Nevada is probably somewhat liberal towards this. Given the age of the suspect, it's not too hard to imagine he might have started collecting the weapons thirty years ago, and after the first one, his Sheriff got used to him and kept approving weapons.

    Of course, I don't know what really happened, but the underlying fact of someone hauling around a suitcase of ten automatics or something like that, is not at all surprising.

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    Las Vegas Shooting: FBI say "No connection with an international terrorist group"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4L8NVV5_-I
    Published on 2 Oct 2017....France 24...

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    Las Vegas Shooting: Shooter doesn't fit the classic profile

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI_OrAcWNzA
    Published on 2 Oct 2017....France 24...

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    Brother: Las Vegas shooter had no political associations

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpQ298MTr8
    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    Eric Paddock, the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, tells reporters the
    family is dumbstruck as to why the brother would carry out a massacre.

    ================================================== ==

    This is a bit surreal , his brother was forthcoming to the press in the hope it
    seems they will leave them alone after this....

    ‘My Brother Did This…I Couldn’t Be More Dumbfounded’



    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    The brother of the Las Vegas shooting suspect spoke to CBS the morning after the
    deadly attack on a music festival.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Another mind control victim?

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    Quote Another mind control victim?
    To early to tell but certainly not the full story in yet.......


    BREAKING: ANTIFA Literature Found In Shooter's Vegas Hotel Room Says Hostage
    Rescue Team ....Alex with Paul Joseph Watson speculating.



    Published on 2 Oct 2017

    Alex Jones breaks the news as he receives it live on air: the hostage rescue team
    responsible for ending the shooting spree found ANTIFA literature in the shooter's
    Las Vegas hotel room.

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    White House press briefing, Pres. Trump holds moment of silence after deadly Las Vegas shooting

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIA0KT7SqP0

    Streamed live 1 hour ago
    White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders holds her daily briefing after a tragic
    shooting that killed at least 58 and injured more than 500.

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    President Trump and The First Lady Lead a Moment of Silence

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RJSrc1Uh-M

    Published on 2 Oct 2017
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