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    According to a Japanese News website, The Filipino girlfriend has now arrived in the US (pointless posting it as it's in Japanese) - this is via my Japanese flattie who's monitoring the Japanese Newsfeed. Let's see what happens?

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    I've got the first missing video & I'm downloading it now with IDLM (only ONE source!) Grab it NOW!



    EDIT:

    Is this the second one? Have downloaded that too (one source!)

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    Well done Kiwi for being on the ball......



    I know you will appreciate capt Jean Luc .....
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Hi Cider - no worries - have refreshed it... can anyone please confirm if the second video is also the correct one?

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    Quote Hi Cider - no worries - have refreshed it... can anyone please
    confirm if the second video is also the correct one?
    Its not the same one, the original was the caller speaking live to the host.
    aprox 7mins long . But it is a accurate summery by the sound of it.....



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    This is the full version of yesterdays show with most of the adds edited out.
    I have posted some of this in separate segments....



    Full Show - What Was The Motive Of The Las Vegas Shooter? - 10/03/2017



    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    Alex Jones asks the obvious questions swirling around the Las Vegas Shooter while
    leftists' call for gun control surges. Robert Forago of TheTruthAboutGuns.com joins
    live in studio to defend our right to bear arms in the face of a tyrannical
    government. Idaho congressional candidate Michael Snyder and investigative
    journalist Laura Loomer join Alex in the third hour to speculate on the Las Vegas
    shooting. Paul Joseph Watson brings it all home.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Ahhhhh this may be it..... Michael Savage Interview...


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    Quote Posted by TinFoilSuit (here)
    And no, I don't believe for a second that this was carried out by a retired millionaire accountant with no military background, and no previous interest in guns.
    Yesterday I got an unexpected and surprising phone call from an old classmate who'd served in the US military for 4 years, apparently quite knowledgeable and experienced in using weapons in war zones. He seemed very troubled, spoke very fast and seemingly endlessly about how the shooting in Vegas was done in such an extreme way that it exceeded far beyond the limits of what a military soldier is allowed to do. I didn't know why he'd called me, it was so out-of-the-blue, but anyway told him to keep updating information and talk with more people about this if he's so concerned. He did seem a bit intoxicated with alcohol, as he'd repeated things many times over, and it was probably in the wee hours where he was calling from. I'm a bit worried about the psychological well-being of the people in the US.
    Blessings to all
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    Quote Ahhhhh this may be it..... Michael Savage Interview...
    That's it.........

    One interesting thing is he said Paddock was a Trump supporter , so attacking
    this audience does not make sense. Unless its BS or he changed his support
    for some reason ? or he was a patsy ? like many of these attacks it does not
    feel right ..........Alex Jones is being fed info that the room was full of Antifa
    literature the classic way they usually leave their calling card as with passports
    and vids at other events. Could Alex be being set up ? of course , this is
    turning into a massive anti gun debate , which would suit TPTB and they know
    Infowars is pro 2nd amendment and Alex is particularly vocal as a supporter
    gun owner.

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    How to transform the gun debate
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia8AKMyEkmI
    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    Maria-Teresa Liebermann, deputy director of Battle Born Progress, and Kris Brown,
    of the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence, join “News with Ed” to discuss the Las
    Vegas massacre and what the government can do to fix America's gun violence problem.

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    Gun shop owner remembers selling shotgun to Vegas suspect
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUdjgapFH8Q
    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    Police find weapons arsenals inside gunman's hotel room and homes; Chris Michel
    speaks out on 'The Story.

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    Gun-Owning Las Vegas Real Estate Mogul To Donald Trump: 'Enough Is Enough' |
    The Last Word | MSNBC
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgYAzFEVYW8
    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    Las Vegas businessman Stephen Cloobeck donated $400,000 to victims of the Las
    Vegas shooting and is calling for President Trump to take action on gun control.
    MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle shares her interview with Cloobeck and discusses with
    Lawrence O'Donnell.


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    I don't know the authenticity of the pics on this vid....

    PICTURES! Inside Las Vegas Shooter Gunman Stephen Paddock Hotel Room Mandalay Bay Casino

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlPIk4vby5Y
    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    PICTURES! Inside Las Vegas Shooter Gunman Stephen Paddock Hotel Room
    Mandalay Bay Casino.Guns Note Body Inside Las Vegas Shooter Gunman Stephen
    Paddock Hotel Room Mandalay Bay Casino


    Note if authentic the body is wearing a glove that could mean others wore them
    as well to avoid finger prints on weapons if they fled in a hurry ( speculation)




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    Lionel...Trial Lawyer, Media analyst & regular on RT America gives his observations so far..


    #LasVegasShooting: Citizen and Civilian Journalists Raise More Questions #MSM
    Refuse to Even Address



    Published on 4 Oct 2017


    It's looking a lot like false flag, Sparky. The public is not being told the truth about
    what really went down in Las Vegas. As you will see below, the evidence is
    mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was
    planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old
    retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever
    and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all
    by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any
    ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to
    interrogate him. But the American people definitely deserve some answers about
    what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.

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    #LasVegasShooting: The Goal of the Deep State is to Repeal, Disarm and
    Confiscate Protected Firearms

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwnIfew4x6A

    Published on 4 Oct 2017

    "As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to
    tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend
    our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the
    people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private
    arms." (Tench Coxe in ‘Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal
    Constitution' under the Pseudonym ‘A Pennsylvanian' in the Philadelphia Federal
    Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)

    Never forget the basis of the II Amendment.

    See?
    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Hillar...

    Lionel Nation

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    Girlfriend Of Vegas Shooter Arrives At LAX From Philippines For Questioning

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IP8jQNXDOo

    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    The Las Vegas gunmen's girlfriend arrived at Los Angeles International Airport
    Tuesday night and will be taken by authorities for what is expected to be intense
    questioning.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by KingJamesCorona (here)
    Radio Traffic https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/i...ic-las-vegasnv
    So, confirmation of two shooters then. This is probably one of the most important information sources here: thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Posted by markenty13 (here)
    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    Listening to the police traffic at the 17 min mark it seems like they report shooters on the 29th and 32nd floors! And a police officer / security guard shot on the 32nd floor? I thought he took his own life after they blew the door?? After that they say it's confirmed there are two shooters. At minute mark 44.50 they confirm the two shooting positions of Mandalay bay and Ali Barber, asking if there was a third. Not able to download audio so please listen, guess it won't be up for long... N

    https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/i...ic-las-vegasnv
    Can download here -

    https://vocaroo.com/i/s1VT3hpg2cvI
    Fabulous, and thank you for providing this for us all, this way.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...-gunmen/209094 So here's another site that gives another take on what happened, I was speaking to a friend of mine before this incident, we were talking about the media and if the NFL took a different stance and instead of shoving their agenda down the throat of everyone who wants to watch football , why not do a stance before or after the game in their civilian clothes on their own time arm and arm or taking a knee and give constructive interviews to bring attention to their unity about racial problems in the US and gain much respect by doing so. BUt then I added "THE NEWS MEDIA WOULD NEVER COVER IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT THEIR AGENDA" which directly has a same tone to this article which does sounds plausible . You be the judge!

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    Quote pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.
    The photo I saw looks real. He is definitely shot dead. I'm interested to find out what convinces you he took his own life?

    Can you provide a link so I can be sure we are looking at the same image?

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    Quote Posted by lloyds (here)
    pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.
    Is this the one showing his head? (WARNING: graphic)... if so, (and if authentic), it's curious that the shells are sitting on top of the blood pool, and that he could shoot himself in the back of the head? (I'm no forensic expert!) Is it also related to this story? (could be getting into "woo woo land", here ... Don't know what to make of either!)

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...k-3559159.html

    Quote LVMPD Leaked Intel- Stephen Pollack Was an FBI Agent Supplying Arms to ISIS Inside the USA
    Tuesday, October 3, 2017 20:37

    The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.

    Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

    Everything is being kept under extreme wraps because
    1) armed ISIS terrorists are still at large and
    2) this is very embarrassing to the FBI and they don’t want their scheme to become public knowledge.

    https://twitter.com/SamHydenstein/st...43399518867461

    We’re preparing now, next 20 to35 minutes

    It wasn’t his wife, it was an Arabic woman. We released her to the FBI, she is presumably still in FBI custody.

    He did have cameras set up, the cameras and video are being examined by the FBI.

    Even if they destroy that evidence we have evidence of multiple arms deals dating back to April of 2015 along with casino video of past interactions between Paddock and buyers.


    PADDOCK’S GIRLFRIEND USED TWO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND WAS MARRIED TO TWO MEN AT THE SAME TIME

    Marilou Danley, the live-in girlfriend of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock, and now a “person of interest” in the shooting investigation, is a Philippines native who has used two Social Security numbers during her two-plus decades in the United States, and was married to two men at the same time, public records show.

    The person who may hold the key to solving the mystery of why the Vegas gunman killed 59 and wounded nearly 600 people led a convoluted life of her own, with two simultaneous husbands, a bankruptcy, two Social Security numbers, multiple addresses in several states and even different ages depending on which state records you review.

    [link to www.newsweek.com]
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    has anyone seen this on Zerohedge? now supposedly emerging is suicide note and a tape he made of himself during the killing?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...-photo-emerges

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    http://nomorefakenews.com/ jon rappoport has 4 stories back to back on the shooting, also listening to caravantomidnight.com now from the 3 oct 17 show. John B Wells is giving links to 2 or 3 people from different sites who warned of something happening in vegas very soon, these warnings were given last month, as the plot thicknens.

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    There are so many things about the official story that don't make sense. 64 year old guy firing automatic weapons for 10 minutes, how is that even possible? Natural News gives a great analysis of this: https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-...n-paddock.html

    And another 5 things that don't make any sense: https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-...ded-brass.html

    Other red flags - all those reports/videos of a second shooter.

    And the foreknowledge - the woman saying that they were all going to die, 45 minutes ahead of time, and the anonymous warnings online:

    https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@budz...successful-the

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23high...oject&src=tyah has the hashtag

    At this point, it's hard to see how anyone can think it's anything other than a false flag... what am I missing here, apart from the MSM propaganda/brainwashing?
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by lloyds (here)
    pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.
    Is this the one showing his head? (WARNING: graphic)... if so, (and if authentic), it's curious that the shells are sitting on top of the blood pool, and that he could shoot himself in the back of the head? (I'm no forensic expert!) Is it also related to this story? (could be getting into "woo woo land", here ... Don't know what to make of either!)
    the gun was in his mouth when the weapon was discharged, this is the most efficient way to suicide (or kill someone and make it look like suicide?) with a fire arm as you shoot out the base of your brain leading to rapid (not instant) death.

    The rounds hit the floor first and his blood flowed under them, there should be a very large mess on the ceiling or wall behind him as well.
    There was a 1: 400,000,000,000,000 chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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    16 Unanswered Questions About The Las Vegas Shooting That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want To Talk About
    Tuesday, October 3, 2017 17:28

    Michael Snyder is the publisher of , The American Dream Blog and The Truth

    The public is not being told the truth about what really went down in Las Vegas. As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him. But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.

    The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…


    #1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?

    #2 Were there additional shooters? A taxi driver clearly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window. A video from another angle and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on. And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video should definitely do it.

    #3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”, and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?

    #4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?

    #5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?

    #6 How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons? Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I really like how Natural News made this point…

    Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

    Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

    #7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?

    #8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?

    #9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?

    #10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?

    #11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?

    #12 Why was ISIS so eager to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection?

    #13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals”. If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?

    #14 Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.

    #15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…

    In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

    From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”

    #16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible? And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa in any way?

    At first I thought that this was a fairly straightforward story too, but the more I have dug into it the more complex things have become.

    Personally, I have come to the conclusion that Stephen Paddock definitely did not act alone. That means that the others involved in the shooting are still out there, and they must be brought to justice. Let us never forget what these extremely wicked individuals did to innocent civilians such as 27-year-old Tina Frost…

    A 27-year-old woman has lost her right eye after a bullet ripped through her face during the Las Vegas concert massacre.

    Tina Frost remains in a coma in hospital after undergoing surgery to remove the bullet that became lodged in her eye when a gunman opened fire on the crowd of country music fans on Sunday night.

    Frost, who is originally from Maryland but moved to California several years ago, is expected to remain in the coma for a week.

    Whoever did this is going to pay greatly. Yes, I do believe that Stephen Paddock was involved. But he did not act alone, and the mainstream media is doing the public a great disservice by ignoring all of the evidence that this was not just a “lone wolf” operation.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

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    Thanks for that... would there be urrr "debris" from the wound behind him - like a trail - and on top of some of those shells/carpet, or would it all just fly further back into the wall/ceiling? Sorry to be gross!

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