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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Here's a video interview of Rene Downs who made a Facebook live video at the Bellagio hotel after the Harvest concert shootings in Las Vegas. Mrs. Downs said that the Bellagio shooting occurred around 11:15 in this interview. The Bellagio hotel was on lockdown after “shots came firing in through the front doors of the lobby” causing “mass chaos and a stampede.”



    It probably is posted somewhere else but here is her video at the Bellagio hotel for those who haven't seen it:


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    Any one can become an agent especially during war time and since the US
    has been at war for much of the last and this century, National security can
    cover a whole host of sins and secrets . Other countries have similar agencies...

    5 People You Won’t Believe Worked For the CIA



    Published on 11 Oct 2017


    TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=24203

    When you think of a CIA agent, you probably think of the Hollywood stereotypes:
    a tall, athletic man in a black suit with dark sunglasses, walking around with one
    hand on his gun and the other on his ear piece.

    But that's stupid. Spies are meant to blend in, not stick out, and the best spies
    are the ones you're least likely to expect. So I bet you never knew these people
    were secretly working for the CIA...
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    This is David Wilcox latest... I copied the last part as some interesting bits about Paddock...something big about to happen...?



    HOW DID THE SHOOTER BECOME A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE... REALLY?

    Many insiders have reported that they work classified jobs that are "off the books" for years.

    The Cabal makes its money from a variety of unsavory activities, including human trafficking, drug smuggling and illegal arms dealing.

    Jobs like these, including "wet work" or assassinations and the smuggling of drugs, arms or humans, can pay ridiculously well, usually in cash.

    A few jobs a year -- if that -- could easily make you into a multi-millionaire. If you have psychopathic characteristics, what would you then do with it?

    Las Vegas has legal prostitution, lots of sights and sounds, and plenty of ways to gamble away money you don't really need.

    It would be entirely consistent with insider testimonies I have heard for Paddock to explain away his wealth as him simply being a "professional gambler."


    10/4: Las Vegas Shooter Was Unusually Wealthy
    http://time.com/money/4969462/las-ve...l-estate-guns/

    Paddock had two planes, owned multiple homes, and regularly dropped tens of thousands of dollars in Vegas casinos, according to recent reports. His shocking collections of guns and ammunition alone may have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Paddock had two planes, owned multiple homes, and regularly dropped tens of thousands of dollars in Vegas casinos, according to recent reports. His shocking collections of guns and ammunition alone may have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Paddock had two planes, owned multiple homes, and regularly dropped tens of thousands of dollars in Vegas casinos, according to recent reports. His shocking collections of guns and ammunition alone may have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
    Paddock had two planes, owned multiple homes, and regularly dropped tens of thousands of dollars in Vegas casinos, according to recent reports.

    His shocking collections of guns and ammunition alone may have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars....

    Paddock also appears to have been quite wealthy, which is unusual for mass shooters….

    He owned two planes and was a licensed pilot, and owned homes in four states, according to the Washington Post.



    His brother said that Stephen Paddock made some $2 million when the two sold their real estate business a few years ago.

    And just before the massacre, he wired $100,000 to his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines, a transaction investigators are still attempting to explain.

    NBC News reported that Paddock often gambled at least $10,000 a day in Las Vegas casinos, and sometimes upwards of $30,000 per day.

    He reportedly gambled a total of at least $160,000 at Vegas casinos in the weeks before the mass shooting. It's unclear how much he won or lost over this time span....

    “He’s a multimillionaire,” [Paddock's brother] Eric said, according to New York.

    “He helped me become affluent, he made me wealthy.”



    PADDOCK TOOK 20 DOCUMENTED CRUISES, INCLUDING TO THE MIDDLE EAST

    Paddock's now well-documented extreme wealth could have been the result of ongoing pay he was receiving for doing various classified jobs.

    If he was a smuggler of sensitive items, he would also need to be a trained assassin... so he could "take care" of anyone if a deal fell through.

    Isn't it interesting, then, that the media revealed Paddock had taken twenty different cruises, on the books -- including to destinations in the Middle East?



    10/6: Las Vegas Shooter Took 20 Cruises, Some to the Middle East
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/in...rticle/2636827

    Investigators... found that [Paddock] took 20 cruises, some of which traveled to the Middle East or Europe.

    The cruises included stops in Spain, Italy, Greece, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates, a law enforcement official told CNN.

    Marilou Danley, Paddock's girlfriend, joined him for nine of the cruises.

    Other details about the trips, like when they took place and what cruise lines were involved, have not been revealed.

    Even though the Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack and that Paddock had converted to Islam, investigators have found no evidence to support those assertions.



    JUST TO SUMMARIZE....

    We now know the shooter worked for the biggest, most notorious military defense contractor in modern history -- Lockheed Martin.

    As insiders will tell you, once you take on a job like this, you never really get out. Hence the saying, "the only way out is a bullet."

    Paddock supposedly retired in 1988, and only then made money from real estate and thirty years of "professional gambling."

    Yet, he had enough cash to blow thirty thousand dollars a day without even batting an eye.

    His behavior shows clear examples of mind-control symptoms. Normal people do not scream "Oh My God" night after night in bed.

    His travel easily fits the profile of someone who was covertly working as a smuggler for what we are calling the Cabal.

    He would also have been through extensive security training and surveillance, and therefore wouldn't have dared tell his family anything.

    His girlfriend might not have known a thing about his "double life" either. If you are caught saying one word, you will get a "sit-down" -- if not far worse.



    THERE COULD EASILY BE CO-CONSPIRATORS

    All of this makes it much easier to believe that Paddock could have worked with several co-conspirators, as the independent research suggests.

    In fact, he may have even been promised a safe exit, such as through a special elevator -- and possibly believed someone else would take the fall.

    Given how crazy these insider stories can get, it is even possible that his alleged suicide could have been a murder.

    Someone else may have been there with him, as his room service bill showed, and then killed him and arranged it to look like a suicide once he did his part.

    His supposed "suicide note" turned out to be a piece of paper where he was calculating the trajectories of his weapons for maximum effectiveness.

    This definitely suggests that he had been through advanced military-type training on the use of firearms.

    This is standard fare for people who receive covert training from defense contractors and / or intelligence agencies.

    Therefore, if someone in the Shadow Government wanted to use a programmed individual as the face of a complex operation, Stephen Paddock fits the bill.

    Full article here

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Part 4 is where it gets really interesting...

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Jim Stone's latest take on this, currently near the top of his page http://jimstone.is, sounds about right to me. It includes a link to a disheartening video that someone apparently took on their smartphone, while in the midst of the crowd being shot at and running to get away.

    ============
    REAL VICTIMS OF SHOOTING NEVER INTERVIEWED, FAKES SWAPPED IN AT FAKE HOSPITAL

    Paul Craig Roberts posted a letter from a military surgeon that specialized in treating gunshot wounds. This surgeon remarked about how the patients in the hospital videos were obviously not shot. The people in the "hospital videos" probably were indeed not shot. But they were most likely never at the concert at all because it was a fake hospital video. Most likely, the people who were actually shot were never interviewed by the press because they would interfere with the official story. What would be worse than having a real witness of the event get on camera and blow it for the FBI?

    After finding a totally obscure video that shows it all clearly, I now affirmatively know the shooting was real, and that everything I said about real people being left to die overnight is accurate. I found a perfectly clear video of the shooting in progress, a video that was buried up until this point. I also now affirmatively know that the media never interviewed real victims, they interviewed actors who were complicit in the shooting that would not spill the beans on the official story

    This video clearly proves the gunfire originated on site, and not from far away. It clearly proves there is blood everywhere, because it did not rain yet the pavement has huge wet areas. It clearly shows an unconcious girl with a huge head wound dripping blood on the pavement as people try to get her to safety. Keep in mind that at night a camera is not going to make blood show red on black pavement. Blood color is so close to black from an actual light absorption perspective that cameras just cant discern the color at night, especially a cell phone.

    The doctor that sent the letter to Paul Craig Roberts was probably being honest, and giving an honest reaction to what was obviously actors in a fake hospital video. But what he most likely did not know was that the media was most likely interviewing fake people from a fake hospital location, all the while real victims were never spoken to. They won't be spoken to, because they would spill the beans. The video clearly shows the people know where the gun shots are coming from, and are trying to make a strategic exit without getting shot themselves. If all the people in the hospital videos were cheery and leaving within days, they CLEARLY, CLEARLY were not the people in this video.

    THIS VIDEO IS SO TELLING THAT IT WILL NOT COME UP IN SEARCH RESULTS. It is obvious all the hits are from people linking into it that happened to have known about it, I tried searching for it by its exact title and Youtube would absolutely not allow it to show up.
    ============

    Here is the above (twice) linked Youtube video (for as long as Youtube allows it to stay up; let me know if this link goes dead and I'll look for alternatives):

    Warning - some will find this video too gruesome:


    The letter to Paul Craig Roberts linked above is a letter from a surgeon experienced in treating gun shot wounds from military assault rifles. The letter is entitled "Military Surgeon Says Videos of Las Vegas Gunshot Victims Are Fake". In the letter, the surgeon goes on to describe the devastation that such a gun shot wound causes, even in an arm or a leg. The surgeon is certain that the interviews he's seen of "victims" a few days after the shooting are fake ... the "victims" are way too healthy, with no signs of such recent dramatic, life threatening, trauma that at best takes months to recover from.

    Between the above linked video, which seems to show real victims, live, at the time of the shootings, and follow on fake interviews, Jim Stone concludes that real people were shot, but actors were interviewed. Stone figures that "they" don't want real victims interviewed, as that would leak out more details of what actually happened (a massacre at closer range.)

    I agree with Jim Stone on this.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Jim Stone's latest take on this, currently near the top of his page http://jimstone.is, sounds about right to me. It includes a link to a disheartening video that someone apparently took on their smartphone, while in the midst of the crowd being shot at and running to get away.

    ============
    REAL VICTIMS OF SHOOTING NEVER INTERVIEWED, FAKES SWAPPED IN AT FAKE HOSPITAL

    Paul Craig Roberts posted a letter from a military surgeon that specialized in treating gunshot wounds. This surgeon remarked about how the patients in the hospital videos were obviously not shot. The people in the "hospital videos" probably were indeed not shot. But they were most likely never at the concert at all because it was a fake hospital video. Most likely, the people who were actually shot were never interviewed by the press because they would interfere with the official story. What would be worse than having a real witness of the event get on camera and blow it for the FBI?

    After finding a totally obscure video that shows it all clearly, I now affirmatively know the shooting was real, and that everything I said about real people being left to die overnight is accurate. I found a perfectly clear video of the shooting in progress, a video that was buried up until this point. I also now affirmatively know that the media never interviewed real victims, they interviewed actors who were complicit in the shooting that would not spill the beans on the official story

    This video clearly proves the gunfire originated on site, and not from far away. It clearly proves there is blood everywhere, because it did not rain yet the pavement has huge wet areas. It clearly shows an unconcious girl with a huge head wound dripping blood on the pavement as people try to get her to safety. Keep in mind that at night a camera is not going to make blood show red on black pavement. Blood color is so close to black from an actual light absorption perspective that cameras just cant discern the color at night, especially a cell phone.

    The doctor that sent the letter to Paul Craig Roberts was probably being honest, and giving an honest reaction to what was obviously actors in a fake hospital video. But what he most likely did not know was that the media was most likely interviewing fake people from a fake hospital location, all the while real victims were never spoken to. They won't be spoken to, because they would spill the beans. The video clearly shows the people know where the gun shots are coming from, and are trying to make a strategic exit without getting shot themselves. If all the people in the hospital videos were cheery and leaving within days, they CLEARLY, CLEARLY were not the people in this video.

    THIS VIDEO IS SO TELLING THAT IT WILL NOT COME UP IN SEARCH RESULTS. It is obvious all the hits are from people linking into it that happened to have known about it, I tried searching for it by its exact title and Youtube would absolutely not allow it to show up.
    ============

    Here is the above (twice) linked Youtube video (for as long as Youtube allows it to stay up; let me know if this link goes dead and I'll look for alternatives):

    Warning - some will find this video too gruesome:


    The letter to Paul Craig Roberts linked above is a letter from a surgeon experienced in treating gun shot wounds from military assault rifles. The letter is entitled "Military Surgeon Says Videos of Las Vegas Gunshot Victims Are Fake". In the letter, the surgeon goes on to describe the devastation that such a gun shot wound causes, even in an arm or a leg. The surgeon is certain that the interviews he's seen of "victims" a few days after the shooting are fake ... the "victims" are way too healthy, with no signs of such recent dramatic, life threatening, trauma that at best takes months to recover from.

    Between the above linked video, which seems to show real victims, live, at the time of the shootings, and follow on fake interviews, Jim Stone concludes that real people were shot, but actors were interviewed. Stone figures that "they" don't want real victims interviewed, as that would leak out more details of what actually happened (a massacre at closer range.)

    I agree with Jim Stone on this.
    This goes back to the point made by Jon Rappoport in one of his recent blogs; this event was/is both real and fake. His assessment on this is consistent with my initial impressions.

    ADD. I know I'm preaching to the choir here with most of you, but a very significant and overarching point is this: do not believe word one of what comes out of the mouths of our so-called elected, selected, and appointed "leaders" and "officials." Their primary purpose in the offices and positions they hold is to deceive. The reason for this is so that their handlers can obtain and maintain plenary power and control over all they survey. This is all consistent with and in furtherance of the Fabianist philosophy and motto of: "Forging the world nearer to the hearts desire."
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    Continuing the analysis, and now relying on Miles Mathis' latest paper, Las Vegas Hoax. Another multi-layer melange of impossibilities and planted liars (pdf), it seems as plain as day now that several of the early dramatic images that we saw of people trying to escape the gun fire were staged.

    Consider (as Miles does) the following image:
    Compare this image with the (gruesome) video in my previous post.

    The lighting in the foreground in this image is all wrong - late in the afternoon, not night time.

    The mood of the people is all wrong, way too calm and complacent for being on just the other side of a low, thin, mesh fence from life threatening automatic gun fire.

    This image, and others showing some of the same people were staged.

    There was, I am convinced, a real, murderous, harvest, for multiple motives and there was and continues to be really fake, conflicting, changing stories that we're told, by the minions, actors, media, and other witting or otherwise accomplices of some seriously evil beings.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Continuing the analysis, and now relying on Miles Mathis' latest paper, Las Vegas Hoax. Another multi-layer melange of impossibilities and planted liars (pdf), it seems as plain as day now that several of the early dramatic images that we saw of people trying to escape the gun fire were staged.

    Consider (as Miles does) the following image:
    Compare this image with the (gruesome) video in my previous post.

    The lighting in the foreground in this image is all wrong - late in the afternoon, not night time.

    The mood of the people is all wrong, way too calm and complacent for being on just the other side of a low, thin, mesh fence from life threatening automatic gun fire.

    This image, and others showing some of the same people were staged.

    There was, I am convinced, a real, murderous, harvest, for multiple motives and there was and continues to be really fake, conflicting, changing stories that we're told, by the minions, actors, media, and other witting or otherwise accomplices of some seriously evil beings.
    That photo has really made the rounds in the MSM. Anyone know who took it or what time it was taken? It looks professional, as opposed to an iPhone snapshot. Getty Images appears in the credits for it on BBC.

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    That photo has really made the rounds in the MSM. Anyone know who took it or what time it was taken? It looks professional, as opposed to an iPhone snapshot. Getty Images appears in the credits for it on BBC.
    I found the copy that I posted at http://fox13now.com/2017/10/05/somet...-brother-says/

    You see a smaller version on that page, but behind (URL visible in the web page's source code) is a larger 4000x2668 file, which I shrunk down to 800x534 to post above.

    I don't know where fox13now.com (the Salt Lake City Fox News channel) got the image.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    That photo has really made the rounds in the MSM. Anyone know who took it or what time it was taken? It looks professional, as opposed to an iPhone snapshot. Getty Images appears in the credits for it on BBC.
    I found the copy that I posted at http://fox13now.com/2017/10/05/somet...-brother-says/

    You see a smaller version on that page, but behind (URL visible in the web page's source code) is a larger 4000x2668 file, which I shrunk down to 800x534 to post above.

    I don't know where fox13now.com (the Salt Lake City Fox News channel) got the image.
    Source: David Becker/Getty Images News/Getty Images

    Photo with credit: https://www.bustle.com/p/photos-of-t...ifying-2742706


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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    I suspect that foreground to be under a strong spotlight rather than a late afternoon shot:


    (click picture for larger version) [David Becker/Getty Images]
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    MGM are now saying, publicly, the police's latest timeline is wrong. Interesting that they made this public before sorting things out with the police. Very embarrassing for Lombardo if true. Good chance he will be removed/demoted from the investigation. It's been more than a week, I can't explain why they can't even work out the timeline properly. Will wait for an explanation.

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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    That photo has really made the rounds in the MSM. Anyone know who took it or what time it was taken? It looks professional, as opposed to an iPhone snapshot. Getty Images appears in the credits for it on BBC.
    I found the copy that I posted at http://fox13now.com/2017/10/05/somet...-brother-says/

    You see a smaller version on that page, but behind (URL visible in the web page's source code) is a larger 4000x2668 file, which I shrunk down to 800x534 to post above.

    I don't know where fox13now.com (the Salt Lake City Fox News channel) got the image.
    Source: David Becker/Getty Images News/Getty Images

    Website
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    Becker is a professional photographer:

    Getty Images work

    Probably his website.

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    I suspect that foreground to be under a strong spotlight rather than a late afternoon shot:
    Now I'm suspecting you're right, Hervé.

    There is a rather sharp contrast between how bright the lighting is on one side of everyone, and how sharp and dark are the shadows on the other side. This suggests primarily a single source of light, not a lit blue sky providing light from all directions.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Couple more updates:

    1) No sign of a brain tumour or other anomaly was found during the autopsy of Stephen Paddock
    2) Stephen Paddock's house in Reno was broken into on the weekend, the intruder has not been caught.

    Next press conference is gonna be interesting.
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    Scott Binsack said there were multiple shooters, that 32nd floor maid staff was told not to come in that day, that staff cleaning room saw absolutely nothing untoward in Paddock’s room up through Oct 1, that all other hotel gunfire was simulated to divert police response and that all hotels were on automatic lockdown. Exception to no other shootings is New York New York that had an active shooter, and police were looking for an Hispanic male shooter.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    THIS VIDEO IS SO TELLING THAT IT WILL NOT COME UP IN SEARCH RESULTS. It is obvious all the hits are from people linking into it that happened to have known about it, I tried searching for it by its exact title and Youtube would absolutely not allow it to show up.
    [/INDENT][/INDENT]============

    Warning - some will find this video too gruesome:


    Many thanks for this Paul. An excellent piece. Yes, the video is the rawest I've seen so far, for sure. That sure isn't crisis acting in that vid.
    Here's the mp4 if folks want to help themselves, in the event it is removed [Paul: I'm attempting to upload this mp4 but it's either taking an age or at 31mb may be too large? Please advise. Thanks. TQ]


    From Bill: uploaded in 720p resolution to the Avalon Library. I do have most of the other important vids archived as well, if need be.
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    Why in the world would the guys working lights turn the entire house UP during the shooting, then turn them off when People were trying to help the allegedly wounded? To light up the targets?

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    Thanks very much Bill, that's great.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Former ATF Arms Dealer: Vegas Shooter Acted Like A Gunrunner



    Published on 11 Oct 2017

    A former gun runner recounts his experience with conducting operations at the
    command of the US government.


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    A couple of news items from yesterday interesting Paddocks house was broken into,
    autopsy report says his brain was normal , sounds like someone is trying to cover
    their tracks and impede the investigation as speculated & suspected....

    Have Las Vegas police botched the massacre investigation?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaIVpNC9Tg0
    Published on 11 Oct 2017
    From a revised timeline to revelations that the gunman was allowed to use a hotel
    freight elevator to apparently transport his arsenal, is it fair to blame police for lack
    of progress in the investigation? #Tucker

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    Police Investigate Whether Word Of Las Vegas Shooting Was Delayed | NBC Nightly News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7W-VwEH1YA

    Published on 11 Oct 2017
    In a new account from the night of the massacre, a hotel engineer describes the
    panicked call he made for

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    Vegas Shooter Used Hotel Freight Elevator, His Reno Home Was Broken Into
    Andrew Cheetham...D.Icke.com



    Vegas Shooter Used Hotel Freight Elevator, His Reno Home Was Broken Into

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...-jet-fuel-tank
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