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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Here is some information that points to multiple shooters at the concert:

    Here are excerpts from an LA Times article with Arthur B. Alphin, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and West Point graduate, who has a mechanical engineering degree and specialized in ballistics and has testified in many multiple-shooting cases.
    Quote “He [Paddock] had a huge area of three, four or five football fields with people standing shoulder to shoulder,” Alphin said. “He was not aiming at any individual person. He was just throwing bullets in a huge ‘beaten zone.’”

    Beaten zone is an infantry term dating to World War I. Shaped like the area a searchlight casts across a flat surface, it represents the area where bullets can strike, and moves substantially with tiny changes in the tilt of the gun.

    If the shooter shifted by about 1 degree, or the width of two fingers held at arm’s length, Alphin said, the beaten zone would fall outside the crowd.

    “That’s all the distance you have to move and you aren’t hitting anybody,” Alphin said. “So he had to be pointing or aiming at the very center of mass and then bouncing all over with the recoil.”

    Alphin said there was “no way” the shooter maintained such a steady kill zone by dumb luck. Steady nerves and planning are a better explanation for the casualty rate, he said.

    “How did this guy get trained that well? Where did it come from?”
    Jeff Rense received this information from Richard Rystrom regarding the statistically incredible odds of Paddock shooting the same person multiple times.

    Quote Here is research on the number of people who were shot two or three times at the Las Vegas concert.

    A simple internet search shows 15 people shot two or more times. It is unlikely someone firing a bump fire weapon in the dark at moving targets 400 yards away could hit a man sized target twice.

    Statistically, if we set the probably of a person in the crowd being hit once at 100%, and hit the second time at, say, 1/600, (600 being the number of people killed or wounded) then the chances of 15 people being shot more than once could be 2.1 x 10 -42. That is about 1 out of 4.7 with 41 zeros. ( (1/600) ^15)

    A statistics expert could do a better job with this.

    In their zeal to draw attention to the gun, the news media have put the lie to the lone nut shooter theory by describing so many people shot more than once.

    Statistical evidence supports close shooters chasing people as some have described.
    In the Tucker Carlson video referenced in Desert Dreamer's post #1020 above, Carlson does not mention anything about multiple shooters at the concert or in other casinos. Why does he not mention that possibility? Is he being silenced on that point or is he just a teleprompter reader who does no online research on his own? After all, anyone doing online research is going to run into the overwhelming firsthand evidence, police radio reports, etc, that point to multiple shooters. This is the key point that I think will break things open big time.

    I have to admit that I was actually planning to visit Vegas this winter as I had a friend who would drive there. I don't gamble but just would like to see some shows and gawk at the opulence. However, after seeing this blatant cover-up I decided to boycott Vegas until the so-called "law enforcement" stops lying and starts telling the truth.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Stunning New Info On Shooting At Bellagio - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 59

    Here's the latest new information from Jake Morphonios regarding the shootings at the Bellagio with a detailed account from a man who heard the shots. He and his wife were caught up in the panic of stampeding people trying to get away from the shooter. Later, a plains clothes police officer told everyone repeatedly that there was only one shooter and that he was dead.



    The subject of the big black curtains in the Bellagio and Cosmopolitan put up to clean up the mess the next day is covered in this video:

    Black Curtains Hiding Evidence At Casinos - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 52



    Jake Morphonios is by far the most thorough and credible researcher on the Las Vegas massacre. He has been repeatedly threatened, harassed and YouTube has censored and demonetized his videos.

    He has noted in his videos that the only people who are attacked on YouTube are the ones with accurate information. At the same time the mainstream media only grabs on to the goofy conspiracy theories in order to discredit the truth about the Vegas massacre.

    Jake lives in North Carolina and is planning two more trips Vegas when he can get enough donations to do so.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

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    Stunning New Info On Shooting At Bellagio - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 59

    Here's the latest new information from Jake Morphonios regarding the shootings at the Bellagio with a detailed account from a man who heard the shots. He and his wife were caught up in the panic of stampeding people trying to get away from the shooter. Later, a plains clothes police officer told everyone repeatedly that there was only one shooter and that he was dead.



    The subject of the big black curtains in the Bellagio and Cosmopolitan put up to clean up the mess the next day is covered in this video:

    Black Curtains Hiding Evidence At Casinos - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 52



    Jake Morphonios is by far the most thorough and credible researcher on the Las Vegas massacre. He has been repeatedly threatened, harassed and YouTube has censored and demonetized his videos.

    He has noted in his videos that the only people who are attacked on YouTube are the ones with accurate information. At the same time the mainstream media only grabs on to the goofy conspiracy theories in order to discredit the truth about the Vegas massacre.

    Jake lives in North Carolina and is planning two more trips Vegas when he can get enough donations to do so.
    I couldn't agree more Truman. Far and away the most important source at the moment for good, concrete information. Listening to the Jeff interview featured here, whilst typing this reply, and there appears to be another very interesting looking video from Jake to do with the Bellagio webcam, following this one. I'll get to that later.

    You're doing an awesome job yourself in keeping the flow going so will sit on my hands, as it were, and wait for you to link that one up for us. When you're ready Thanks for what you're doing too.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Here is the link to Jake Morphonios' main YouTube page with all his End Times News Reports videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/prepare333

    This way anyone can visit that page to see which videos they haven't yet seen. I haven't posted every one of the videos but mainly focused on the most revealing ones, IMO.

    Here's the latest one that contains more info on the deleted 15-minute interval snapshots of the Bellagio Conservatory.


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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    The Las Vegas FBI office reveals its corruption and lying not only in the Las Vegas massacre but also in its war on the Bundy family. For more info please listen to Ammon Bundy's latest impassioned talk here.
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    Cops Respond to Gunmen On Las Vegas Blvd - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 61

    New evidence and witnesses give corroborative testimonies of multiple shooters before the start of the main machine gun volley into the concert venue. Witnesses near the right side of the stage (i.e., "stage left") saw four Las Vegas police officers rush outside the gate toward Mandalay Bay followed by gun shots that sounded like firecrackers.


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    I'm not entirely sure how useful this may be but I stumbled upon it just now, and, on initial spec it does appear to be quite interesting.

    We'd need to be absolutely certain when this was created, for this to be of any value, but, if, as the submitter of this alludes, this was created some time ago then it does raise some eyebrows. Or at least two. I am pretty certain I don't have more than two eyebrows, but, collectively we will have many.

    Here's a video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DffRrqHiIAw

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Every single death due to gun shots, not a single trampled victim? I guess the panic wasn't as bad as it seemed? seems fishy...

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    Coroner says Paddock shot himself in the head and the FBI says
    we may never know why he did it.......


    FBI to release report on Las Vegas massacre by Oct. 1, 2018



    Published on 21 Dec 2017
    Investigators continue to search for Stephen Paddock's motive; Trace Gallagher reports from Los Angeles.




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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Coroner says gunman Stephen Paddock killed himself;
    All 58 Las Vegas victims died of gunshot wounds


    Published on 21 Dec 2017

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    FBI Special Agent Rouse says No known affiliation, ideology tied to Las Vegas gunman

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmwktfWUqWs
    Published on 21 Dec 2017
    FBI: No known affiliation, ideology tied to Las Vegas gunman
    Aaron Rouse, FBI Special Agent in Charge, Las Vegas division, says to this date,
    there is no known affiliation or ideology tied to the Las Vegas gunman.



    ================================================== =


    My reasons Paddock did not shoot himself



    Published on 21 Dec 2017
    This video sets out why it took so long to produce videos after the event and what
    makes be believe that Paddock did not commit suicide. This might have more holes
    than a wooden door that has had 200 bullets shot through it but it shows how my
    thought process works. I strongly believe that Paddock died before 9:59

    Please think what i am saying I do not care if someone flipped him over to check
    for vitals who ever it was someone placed the gun over his leg
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    In spite of the tens of thousands of cameras throughout the Las Vegas area and inside the Mandalay Bay Casino—not a single video nor even a still image from a surveillance camera has been released.

    Why haven’t authorities released a single image of Paddock carrying a bag into the hotel? Why haven’t authorities released a single image of Paddock sitting down at one of the many slot machines at which he was alleged to have used his girlfriend’s point card?

    Indeed, there was surveillance footage released of Stephen Paddock immediately after the shooting. However, this video was obtained by NBC news—from a different hotel, six years ago.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/veg...orted-missing/

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Coroner reports 16 of the 58 Las Vegas massacre victims shot in the head

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    A woman places a candle in front of one of many white crosses set up for the victims of the Route 91 Harvest music festival mass shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S., October 6, 2017 © Chris Wattie / Reuters

    All 58 victims killed during the Las Vegas massacre died of gunshot wounds and were homicides, a coroner's report found. A third of the victims were shot in the head. The gunman, Stephen Paddock, shot himself in the mouth.

    The revelations came Thursday, in a list of findings from the autopsies of the 58 killed in the October 1 massacre, the deadliest mass shooting in recent US history.

    "The manner of death in each case was homicide and the cause was a gunshot wound or wounds," Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg said on Thursday, according to KVVU-TV. The report shows that none of the victims died from injuries related to their attempts to escape the chaotic scene.

    On the night of October 1, police said a gunman opened fire on a crowd of concert goers attending a country music festival on the Las Vegas Strip in Nevada, and left 58 people dead and 546 injured in just ten minutes.

    The gunman, identified as Stephen Paddock, is alleged to have fire more than 1,000 rounds from his suite on 32rd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel. About an hour after Paddock fired his last shot in the crowd, he was found dead in his room from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    The list contains the names of each victim, the cause of death, where they were shot, and the manner in which they died. Sixteen of the victims were shot in the head, according to the document. Others were hit in the back, chest or neck. One man is listed with a gunshot wound to the leg as his cause of death. Six of the victims were hit multiple times.


    Las Vegas shooting Oct 1st, 2017 © Getty

    "Regarding the suspect, Stephen Paddock, the manner of his death was suicide and the cause was intraoral gunshot wound of head," said the coroner, according to KVVU-TV. His death was considered a suicide. The release didn't include full autopsies for Paddock or the 58 victims.

    The incident is considered the deadliest mass shooting committed by an individual in the US. It provoked debate again about gun laws with focus on bump fire stocks, a device that turns a semi-automatic rifle to fire at a similar rate of a fully automatic weapon.

    Paddock's brain was sent for additional testing after his autopsy didn't find any visible abnormalities. Many have hoped that his autopsy would help provide a motive or some answers in the mysterious tragedy. Nearly three months later, investigators have not yet publicly released a motive.

    The new information was released a day after FBI Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that Paddock's motive was still being investigated and authorities were pouring over about 22,000 hours of surveillance and cell phone footage.

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    Quote alleged to have fire more than 1,000 rounds from his suite on 32rd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.
    Anyone seen those empty shells burying Paddock's suite's floor?

    Reminds me of the 5000 rounds fired by French police in the take down of a Saint-Denis apartment...
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    Eye Witness Interview Tour - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 62

    Here's the latest update from Jake Morphonios regarding the Las Vegas massacre. He is headed out to Las Vegas and surrounding states for more investigation and interviews.


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    Las Vegas Shooting - NEW Las Vegas Police Covering Up For Mandalay Bay?

    This is an interview of Las Vegas attorney Stephen Stubbs who reveals the cozy relationship of the Las Vegas with the local police and Sheriff Lombardo. I have not yet seen the full documentary (links below) entitled What Happened in Vegas.



    Ramsey Denison, who has experienced Vegas police brutality firsthand, has been exposing the corruption of Las Vegas police for the past four years leading up the Vegas shootings.

    Quote Watch this interview with Eric Paddock's lawyer about how the Las Vegas Police Department gives the Casinos private numbers to call to be able to protect their high rollers.

    This video clip was taken from the AMAZING documentary produced by Journeyman Pictures and Ramsey Denison called: "What Happened in Vegas" I highly recommend you go watch for yourself at any of the following locations:
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    Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/whathappen...
    JmanTV: https://jman.tv/film/5997/What+Happen...
    Although it is unknown exactly what Stephen Paddock's role in this was, it is clear from so many firsthand eyewitness testimonies that this was a terrorist attack by multiple gunmen in numerous casinos. However, IMO, if the truth were told by "law enforcement" the potential monetary losses to Vegas casinos would be staggering. By pinning it on a "lone gunman", the casinos can limit the negative repercussions. This is of course only one possible aspect to the cover-up.
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    LVMPD Caught Lying about Officer Firing Shots in Paddock's Room | What Happened In Vegas Ep. 10

    How Sheriff Lombardo's lie was exposed by independent journalists/investigators including Doug Poppa, an ex-LVMPD officer.

    Quote Journalist Doug Poppa, himself an ex-LVMPD officer, discovered evidence of shots fired in Stephen Paddocks room by a SWAT unit - a fact left out by Lombardo's version of events. What are the LVMPD trying to hide? And why are they so keen to keep the investigation so closely guarded? Episode 10 of the ongoing What Happened in Vegas web series.


    My question is: Was this the shot that killed Stephen Paddock to make it look like a suicide by a "lone gunman"? Is that why they tried to cover it up?
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    💥 BOMBSHELL - Face of Man Inside Paddock's Room During Shooting - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 63



    Hopefully YouTube will not take down this video of a man's face in Paddock's room while the shooting is occurring. YouTube already took it down once. Although the face is blurry it does seem to match Paddock's face. This video was taken during the shooting and if this is indeed Paddock it may be showing him just looking out the window while someone else is doing the shooting from who knows where.

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    Hopefully YouTube will not take down this video of a man's face in Paddock's room while the shooting is occurring. YouTube already took it down once. Although the face is blurry it does seem to match Paddock's face. This video was taken during the shooting and if this is indeed Paddock it may be showing him just looking out the window while someone else is doing the shooting from who knows where.
    Many of us who have been following the investigations from the word 'go' were immediately, or at least very quickly, very doubtful that this was the work of Stephen Paddock at all. By reposting this video Jake has pretty successfully, again, cemented the other eye witness testimony to multiple shooters, subsequent to October 2nd. He is I think going to be producing some startlingly revealing further testimony in the days to come.

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    LVMPD Caught Lying about Officer Firing Shots in Paddock's Room | What Happened In Vegas Ep. 10

    How Sheriff Lombardo's lie was exposed by independent journalists/investigators including Doug Poppa, an ex-LVMPD officer.

    Quote Journalist Doug Poppa, himself an ex-LVMPD officer, discovered evidence of shots fired in Stephen Paddocks room by a SWAT unit - a fact left out by Lombardo's version of events. What are the LVMPD trying to hide? And why are they so keen to keep the investigation so closely guarded? Episode 10 of the ongoing What Happened in Vegas web series.


    My question is: Was this the shot that killed Stephen Paddock to make it look like a suicide by a "lone gunman"? Is that why they tried to cover it up?
    key issue that brings into question the gunman suicide story is the fact he wore gloves indicating he planned to survive the event

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

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    💥 BOMBSHELL - Face of Man Inside Paddock's Room During Shooting - Las Vegas Shooting - Part 63



    Hopefully YouTube will not take down this video of a man's face in Paddock's room while the shooting is occurring. YouTube already took it down once. Although the face is blurry it does seem to match Paddock's face. This video was taken during the shooting and if this is indeed Paddock it may be showing him just looking out the window while someone else is doing the shooting from who knows where.
    I see that YouTube has not yet taken down this video but it appears that it has taken it (Part 63) out of the search engine results as you can see on Jake Morphonios' channel here.

    Also, if you type the title to that video "Face of Man Inside Paddock's Room During Shooting" into YouTube's search engine you won't find that video (Part 63).

    Hmmmmmmm.........Very interesting.

    IMO, the evidence that Stephen Paddock did any of the shooting is non-existent. It appears to me that Paddock was the patsy. And the entities responsible for initially taking down the video in October and deleting it from search results now don't want that information out there.

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