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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

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    They would definitely be visible.
    Dang - I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that kind of fire power .

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    That's the first really good image I've seen of the layout of that place, at the time of the Route 91 Harvest Festival and shooting.

    Thanks for posting it, Hervé.

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    As I looked at this map I recalled hearing a bullet had found its way to the fuel tanks. Assuming all targets were in the concert area, there seems to be only one logical place for that bullet to have begun its journey - and that is from the grounds of the concert itself.
    Yes - assuming that all shots were intended to shoot into the concert area - however it's possible that the shots (at least two, I believe) into the fuel tanks were intended to hit the fuel tanks, perhaps to create more fear in the subsequent news reports: What if those tanks had erupted into flames?

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    The whole thing smells fishy ! , I've been hearing the same story over and over from MSM to me the broken windows look too low to be at the 32nd floor , the claim is 50+ deaths, so ,where are the family of the deaths saying something? not a single one, How ANYONE can skip so many weapons on a hotel room and no cameras catch him? why the msm rush into so many conclusions about the alleged gun man? too fast. the whole story look too much fabricated for a multiple purpose, gun control, contracts in safety for the hotels and casinos, and keep the status caos!

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    "Investigative reporter Jake Morphonios joins the program to discuss the facts after spending time on the ground in Las Vegas. We also discuss the fact that his show has received more views than all mass media channels combined as reported by the Wall Street Journal and USA Today (to their credit). His popularity has resulted in a major crackdown on his channel and personal attacks on him and his family. "

    he shares some things i have not heard about as of yet. he saw a few videos in vegas that people have and are too afraid to share... pertaining to multiple shooters and bodies that were not near the "harvest" area....

    also some other interesting topics... pedo., child traffic etc. (hope this has not already been posted i haven't seen it)




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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Here's an hours worth of video, in four 15 minute segments, taken from what I'd guess is about the 15th floor of Mandalay Bay, overlooking the scene of the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

    The video is taken during the daytime, some day soon after the shootings. It shows various FBI agents cleaning up. I'm confident that the agents will find any interesting evidence and be sure it's cataloged and removed. Lots of large black trash bags are already filled with stuff they picked up.

    There is no sound with the video, other than the sound of the motorized zoom on the camera, as the camera pans around here and there, zooming in and back out.

    I see no evidence that this place was sprayed with one or two thousand rounds of automatic weapons fire. Signs, tent tops, and stacks of crates of beer and booze are all in fine shape.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AbiYhC6IU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYUe9aZuzw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20M98dRCg18
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOSDNizzbAc

    I don't see any reason to watch all of it ... I sure didn't. It's got all the plot line of watching paint dry. But it does give a good view of what the place looks like, a day or three later.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    This video from an old long-term classmate offers a very de-mystifying perspective on Stephen Paddock, and (in my view) more accurately portrays Paddock's financial situation and gambling.



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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Here's an hours worth of video, in four 15 minute segments, taken from what I'd guess is about the 15th floor of Mandalay Bay, overlooking the scene of the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

    The video is taken during the daytime, some day soon after the shootings. It shows various FBI agents cleaning up. I'm confident that the agents will find any interesting evidence and be sure it's cataloged and removed. Lots of large black trash bags are already filled with stuff they picked up.

    There is no sound with the video, other than the sound of the motorized zoom on the camera, as the camera pans around here and there, zooming in and back out.

    I see no evidence that this place was sprayed with one or two thousand rounds of automatic weapons fire. Signs, tent tops, and stacks of crates of beer and booze are all in fine shape.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AbiYhC6IU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYUe9aZuzw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20M98dRCg18
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOSDNizzbAc

    I don't see any reason to watch all of it ... I sure didn't. It's got all the plot line of watching paint dry. But it does give a good view of what the place looks like, a day or three later.
    "...watching paint dry." Priceless . However, this is very very helpful in determining exactly where Stephanie was situated, as I'm sure she mentioned both hut (sic) 5 and 6 at some point in her interview with Laura Loomer, and, when the camera zooms in on the VIP area you can clearly see those numbers. (at 6:42 in the first clip, and a little after). I'm at around 8 minutes in Paul, and, yes, I may not see it through! (or might I.....)

    Clip 2: at 11:14 it looks as if a dent/damage to hut 5 has been circled in orange. Is this where Stephanie saw that woman take a hit and is this damage from her possibly falling into it?

    Quick post update: gentle reminder to all that Stephanie didn't film the footage (see Laura Loomer interview), her friend did. Stephanie is in that piece of film seen dancing in that chequered shirt, and then clocks the 'hit'.

    Sorry if I'm being a bit of a stickler here with the detail, but, I think that's important to remember. She is one of the most important witnesses we have on record.

    Postscript: personally, and it is only my view, I really wouldn't get bogged down in the commentary attached to the FBI clean up film regarding lack of bullet holes. Somebody somewhere made a pertinent point that some, not all, of the automatic gunfire heard could well have been cover fire. And in any case, aren't we talking very highly skilled crack marksmen contracted to pull this off here? They would be trained to minimise residue and maximise target, surely. Lack of bullet holes does not equal no guns, automatic or otherwise, were actually used. Far from it.

    But again huge thanks to Paul for these paint drying films - they do help very much to cement in my mind, again, that zip zilch nada was fired from the Mandalay Bay (School Book Depository decoy) at all.
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    Quote Posted by sllim11 (here)
    "Investigative reporter Jake Morphonios joins the program to discuss the facts after spending time on the ground in Las Vegas. We also discuss the fact that his show has received more views than all mass media channels combined as reported by the Wall Street Journal and USA Today (to their credit). His popularity has resulted in a major crackdown on his channel and personal attacks on him and his family. "

    he shares some things i have not heard about as of yet. he saw a few videos in vegas that people have and are too afraid to share... pertaining to multiple shooters and bodies that were not near the "harvest" area....

    also some other interesting topics... pedo., child traffic etc. (hope this has not already been posted i haven't seen it)



    Thank you sllim11. Wow, this guy's great isn't he. There is some gold in here. Dare I say it - another must hear, although to be honest, everything on this thread demands attention.
    Excellent share this, thanks

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    Ok this is interesting. Not seen all 'paint drying' footage as yet lol, but after checking the first clip to see if there was anything to back up what I already suspected, sure enough there is this evidence:

    This is an image of the concert area with the stage up. Note the Green X. This is Stephanie's location. According to Stephanie, the first gunshot was heard and a woman is hit at this location.

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    Note this image now of the aftermath. The stage has been largely disassembled by this time. But when it was fully up, it is clear that there would be no line of sight from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Hotel down to that Green X, and the VIP suite where the first woman is shot. From this we can gather that, if she was indeed shot, she was shot by someone other than Paddock from the Mandalay Bay.

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    Also important, this note from 'hangman1128', who shot this footage and uploaded to Youtube:

    Quote hangman1128
    1 day ago
    It was taken on October 14th from the Mandalay Bay hotel from a room just below the broken window.
    Therefore, if hangman1128 is accurate, and he really did shoot this from the 31st floor right underneath Paddock's alleged position, then the angles and vantage points would've been virtually identical.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Massacre aftermath (graphic)


    High rez here: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--pX17XpIp...sVictims1.jpeg
    Yellow strips are protections for cables running along a corridor between stage and sound/lights booth (stage is behind photographer looking toward the booth).
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    All the magazines in all the public stores are about Harvey Weinstein and not one bit about Vegas in sight -anywhere.

    It appears to be, or this evidence shows that it appears to be a factional war.

    At least two different and seemingly warring narratives.

    One of the signs of a factional war is when narratives fall out of lock step and out of sync.

    It will likely manifest it's self like the silent funeral fight in 'the other guys', as each faction tries it's best to keep the public unaware that there is anyone ruling over them at all.

    Which is what the narratives in conflict are seemingly saying.

    Like the mice and the mouse culture and system, no matter who they are, they have to tip-toe past the cat. As the cat rules them all, if it is awake and aware. In this case the masses are a danger to not just one faction, but all factions.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    They would definitely be visible.
    Dang - I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that kind of fire power .
    that set up has tracer rounds in the clips. Tracer rounds are not common, and obtaining them might be a bit of a milspec red flag issue. (don't know, haven't looked at general availability)

    apparently tracer rounds were found in his room? This would have made identifying the source point insanely easy. Tracer rounds are preferred usually..only when the firing position is inherently dominant, or it is necessary to control fire like a hose, in the dark,and one wants to know exactly who is firing in a group. Ie, in a 'killbox/killzone' of German origin in WWII, the UK commandos noted 5 different colors of tracers as fired by the German pillbox positions.
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    Still no evidence of broken windows at the time of the shooting:


    High rez here: https://static4.libertatea.ro/wp-con...h_53804617.jpg


    People run outside the Mandalay Bay Hotel after a gunman opened fire on attendees of the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival. TWITTER/ @MORGANDBAMBI via REUTERS
    High rez here: https://i1.wp.com/nsjonline.com/wp-c...0%2C1440&ssl=1



    High rez here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLHtjT_W4AEb_zr.jpg:large
    Moon still high in the sky... chopper above pyramid.

    ... noticed that "masonic" twin column on the far left of the last picture?
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    VIDEO: Leaked Las Vegas SWAT Audio Indicates Police Gunned Down Stephen Paddock in Hotel

    Posted on October 24, 2017
    by Investigative Bureau



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    A raw and chilling audio feed leaked from Las Vegas Metro SWAT confirms officers did engage in gunfire after breaching Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock’s hotel suite, directly contradicting FBI and police claims that Paddock killed himself.

    According to the newly leaked audio, Paddock was likely gunned down by LVMPD’s elite “Zebra Unit” SWAT force. A SWAT officer code named “Zebra20” and apparent leader of the team’s strike force who led the raid on Paddock’s Mandalay Bay suite reported on police radio that one member of his team did open fire inside Paddock’s room.

    “We have one SWAT officer that did fire,” the SWAT strike force team leader said, according to the audio transcript. (Listen to the SWAT audio in the above video)

    Zebra20 then reported no other people were injured during the breach, alluding Paddock was the sole casualty.
    “We just have one suspect down at this point in time,” he said.

    The events which unfolded during the Oct. 1 massacre per LVMPD’s Zebra Unit SWAT force directly contradict the official narrative delivered since the shooting by Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo and the FBI’s Aaron Rouse who heads the Bureau’s Las Vegas field office.

    To wit, both law enforcement entities have vehemently stated Paddock killed himself before police breached and reached his room. No shots were fired, Lombardo has stated.

    The new audio, however, clearly proves that was not how things went down on the 32nd Floor of Mandalay Bay.
    Did Lombardo and Rouse outright fabricate the narrative in Paddock’s hotel room? The SWAT-linked audio tape would strongly indicate their collaborated yet uncorroborated story that Paddock committed suicide is pure fiction.

    If these law enforcement entities worked so hard to manufacture a bogus back story about Paddock’s death, what else are officials hiding from the public?

    There are no shortage of glaring inconsistencies and unanswered questions stemming from the official narrative and time line if the shooting, which changed daily for weeks.

    Now the leaked audio transcript, for the first time, serves as rock-solid evidence that officials likely have been lying to the public.

    LVMPD’s Zebra Team is comprised of 40 elite members on the police department, a law enforcement source said. Zebra20, who relayed the scene from Paddock’s room to the dispatcher at “Control,” is a long time veteran of the police force and SWAT unit, sources said.

    Lombardo did not return request for comment.

    FBI did not return request for comment

    TRUE PUNDIT
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    That was my first thought and I wondered whether the weapon, distance or
    focus comes into play ? I could not see anything coming from the windows
    either , but maybe there is a simple answer ? obviously other shooters ,
    though I am not an analyst.

    They would definitely be visible.

    example ( go to 1:33) :

    judging by your reply about semi autos I'm guessing you have some sort of back ground in firearms. so im not trying to tell you how to suck eggs. but just to clarify for others..

    In that video, 99% of the people are using tracer rounds. it isn't hard to suppress muzzle flash on a rifle. You can buy fittings that screw onto the barrel like a silencer does and it stops the large flash when the projectile leaves the barrel. These are easily obtainable to the average person here in Australia where gun laws are ridiculously tight, so i doubt you will see any muzzle flashes from any of the shooters.

    so to clarify, none of the shooters in any of the video footage i have seen have been using tracer rounds and they more than likely used flash suppression (not silencers) on the muzzle of their rifles.
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    HOOTERS: Video footage from inside uploaded in the last few hours.
    TvClip.biz linke here: https://tvclip.biz/video/Xx66105qIYc...g-part-22.html

    YouTube clip here:

    Added:  17 hours ago
    This raw footage of panic was filmed inside Hooters Casino immediately after the Las Vegas Shooting.

    Original video post by Mr. Rosasr here: tvclip.biz/video/NC87Nva4O-c/

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    From Jim Stone, in case someone wondered what happened to his regular site:
    RUNNING ON THE PRIMARY BACKUP SERVER
    The vegas files came close to maxing out the main server, so I sent the site over to this one. There are five more backup servers but where they are will remain a mystery until they are needed.
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    Las Vegas Shooting FBI Clean Up Part 2 of 4


    Not sure where this fit in but for someone it might be interesting. FBI painting and patching holes in the ground after the shooting.

    True that agencies really do cleanup? Who knows.
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    I just found this after reading a comment on an article at ZeroHedge and a link was given to an investigative reporter Scott J. Binsack who receives exclusive video and live testimony from a key witness who was part of the Security Team within the Tropicana Hotel the night of the Las Vegas Shootings. He reveals to Scott exclusive information and video evidence of the madness inside and outside the Tropicana. Including serious information that he came face to face with a possible additional shooter from atop of the Club Tower of the Tropicana. Where many eye witness reports confirm sounds of gun fire coming from.

    I have not listened to all of it yet, but so far is very interesting and probably worth a listen. https://vimeo.com/239768830

    My apologies in advance if I haven't posted the link correctly.

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