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    This is an interesting discussion with vid/photo footage going over some of the
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    This is a interesting debate.....

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Although Jake Morphonios has certainly already determined Stephen Paddock's actual involvement in this whole sorry saga, that is, not a shooter, the following report from another source casts more light on the problems being faced by honest federal law enforcement officials within the FBI. This is pretty damning indeed. (Tintin Q)

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    ‘It’s a Movie Script’: FBI Insiders Reportedly Expose ‘Official’ Vegas Narrative as Entirely False

    March 12, 2018 Author GOV'T SLAVES

    http://govtslaves.info/2018/03/its-a...ntirely-false/

    Matt Agorist–Damning information has allegedly been reported by FBI insiders who claim that the “official” narrative about the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history is a fiction, perpetuated by law enforcement to keep Americans ignorant as to what really happened in Vegas.

    The report comes from True Pundit who claims to have been contacted by several FBI insiders and high-ranking intelligence officials who are making the bombshell claims.

    “It’s a movie script that was written after the shooting to rewrite what really happened,” one FBI agent said, according to the media outlet. “The investigation is an entirely different story that we are not allowed to talk about. If we do and get caught, we get fired and probably charged (criminally).”

    According to the report, the entire premise of the shooting—as in Stephen Paddock acted alone—is completely false.

    As True Pundit reports, after months of corporate-infused spin by MGM Resorts and outright lies from officials in the FBI and the Las Vegas Metro Police Department, federal agents and intelligence officials are spilling the beans about what really happened on and before the Oct. 1 massacre.

    According to the FBI officials, as reported by True Pundit, the following jaw-dropping cover-ups:

    • When FBI brass was provided with forensic evidence of multiple gunmen, they told agents to stand down and focus on Paddock only. Even a key internal audio captured by a hotel guest of multiple rifles firing from Mandalay Bay went ignored, covered up.

    • When FBI brass was provided the names of persons of interest who likely assisted Paddock, agents were instructed not to interview the individuals. One would-be target was never pursued despite pleadings from intelligence officials and agents that he was possibly the second shooter.

    • The FBI uncovered specific evidence showing that Paddock was anti-Trump and had an affiliation with ANTIFA, though it never was divulged to the public and agents did not follow such leads, per orders of their superiors.

    • When FBI brass was given evidence that the shooting was possibly linked to ANTIFA radicals working with an ISIS-linked terror faction — including the full identities of some of the suspects with ties to both radical groups and at or near Mandalay Bay the night of the deadly shooting — agents were never instructed to follow up on the investigation and pursue the suspects.

    • When intelligence officials approached the FBI and LVMPD with external evidence that Paddock was only one member of an organized terror cell — which included as many as five gunman who planned to fire from the Mandalay Bay suite — the compelling evidence was covered up. Never pursued.

    • When FBI brass was provided with forensic evidence that Paddock’s death was not a suicide, the intelligence was never pursued by the FBI and LVMPD. FBI sources said Paddock suffered two gunshots. His autopsy report only details a single bullet to the head. FBI sources maintain Paddock’s autopsy was doctored and is a fraud.

    • When an ISIS-linked “businessman” from Turkey was pinpointed in the investigation — and found to be residing near Las Vegas at the time of the shooting — FBI agents were not instructed to follow up and pursue intelligence leads showing possible links to the massacre.

    • FBI and intelligence officials believe Paddock and associates chose to strike the Las Vegas country music concert with over 22,000 people because they likely supported President Trump. FBI agents said they were instructed to keep that key motive quiet too.

    • When MGM refused to share cctv footage from Mandalay Bay, FBI agents were threatened by superiors that any whistle blowers divulging such revelations to the media would lose their jobs. The FBI still has never been provided all the camera footage from the Mandalay Bay, FBI agents said.

    • When FBI agents and agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives informed FBI bosses that Paddock didn’t start buying dozens of guns until after Trump’s election, they were told to keep that fact quiet and shrouded.

    • When FBI agents followed up on an ABC News report that Paddock wired $100,000 to the Philippines shortly before the rampage they confirmed the report was untrue. Instead of disputing it, FBI bosses embraced the false story, saying it helped build the narrative the Bureau was constructing about Paddock. FBI agents believe the story was planted with ABC by their superiors.

    While some of these points attempt to paint a partisan motive for this attack, it is important to remember that all sides would love to use Paddock to “blame the other guy” and this should not lead to the creation and hatred of stereotypes nor should it be used to divide Americans.

    If it turns out that Paddock was indeed anti-Trump, then this should not be used to demonize others who are also opposed to Trump.

    Anything outside of a thorough investigation to seek the truth is an insult to the victims and their families. Those who would attempt to use this tragedy for personal or political gain are no better than those trying to cover up the truth.

    According to True Pundit, Monday’s report is one of many they will be releasing that will contain all the information given to them by their FBI and intelligence sources.
    As we’ve done throughout this campaign of misinformation and lies that is the Vegas Massacre, the Free Thought Project will continue to sift through all the evidence to find the truth.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    The above version of the True Pundit report doesn't contain an important detail -- the Bill Still Report #2095 covers it (below)...

    "This FBI-generated smoke screen has occurred during the watch of FBI Director Christopher Wray and his Las Vegas Field Office Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse, a disciple of Andrew McCabe, the defrocked and disgraced former deputy director of the FBI." -- True Pundit report

    Las Vegas Shooting: Under the Watchful Eye
    of FBI Special Agent Aaron Rouse
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    The Vegas Massacre Exposé:
    What Really Happened?


    Guest Post by Wayne Allyn Root

    What Really Happened in Vegas on October 1st? Was ISIS involved?


    The Vegas Massacre is clearly the new “JFK Murder Conspiracy” updated for the 21st century. The whole story stinks to high heaven. It’s rancid. Clearly, our own government, FBI and Las Vegas police are involved in some sort of cover-up. The question is- what are they covering up?

    Las Vegas is my home. I have the top radio talk show in this town. Many dozens of Vegas residents have gotten in touch with me to give me their take on the Vegas Massacre. Included in that group has been MGM employees, top MGM executives, survivors of the worst mass shooting in US history, as well as law enforcement and retired homicide detectives. From my own gut instincts, investigation and these interviews with key players, I’ve pieced together this story. It’s not a pretty picture.

    Like any good detective, I have lots of working theories. A good detective doesn’t rule anything out. Maybe it really is as simple and clean as “Stephen Paddock did it, case closed.” But there are way too many unanswered questions, problems and mysteries with that storyline.

    So here are my “Top 20” nagging questions, inconsistencies and theories about the Vegas Massacre…


    #1) RAMBO.
    How did an overweight, out of shape, 60-year old, anonymous guy (on no one’s radar) with no military training and no military or law enforcement history become Rambo overnight? He carried out this plot with no help? Got hundreds of pounds of weapons to his room? He broke open a hurricane-strength 800- pound window? Set up sniper-type guns? Pulled off worst mass shooting in America’s history with no training, no help? Even though the one over-riding theme of every survivor/witness I’ve spoken to, or heard from is…they saw or heard multiple shooters. Yet the FBI and Vegas police immediately discounted this theory. Why?

    #2) The Constantly Changing Timeline.
    Did guard Jesus Campos arrive before the shooting started, or after, or during? Why has the story changed so many times? Why can’t anyone get it straight? It’s telling how authorities finally settled on the one timeline most beneficial to MGM- the single biggest employer in a “company town” called Las Vegas. More on this under the Jesus Campos storyline.

    #3) The Police Homicide Division isn’t Investigating the worst mass shooting in U.S. history?
    FACT. I had guest on my Vegas radio show from a recently retired Vegas homicide detective. The detective reported that the Vegas Sheriff did NOT give the case to a division of 30+ experienced Vegas homicide detectives who deal with murder all day, every day.

    He gave the case to a short-handed division of Internal Affairs that investigates police officer’s accidental discharge of a weapon. Huh? The Sheriff gave the worst mass shooting in US history to a small division of five cops who have never investigated a homicide? Why?

    #4) The Vegas Sheriff.
    Sheriff Joe Lombardo. In the interests of full disclosure, I was a fan. I supported the Sheriff in his election. I feel he is in very tough position here. MGM is the biggest employer in this town and a huge donor to his past and future campaigns. During press conferences, it’s clear Sheriff Lombardo is under restraint in what he can and cannot say. The Las Vegas FBI bureau chief stands right behind him in every press conference with a look that could kill. The FBI clearly doesn’t want Sheriff Lombardo to reveal much. Why?

    Since literally every Vegas Sheriff in history retires and goes to work as head of security for a large Vegas hotel for $250,000 per year (like MGM), and Vegas is a company town with MGM being the leading employer, and billions of dollars are on the line due to liability, insurance and tourism issues, it’s easy to see why the Vegas Sheriff is in tough spot. This might well explain the lack of information forthcoming from the LVMPD (Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department). Everyone involved is in a difficult spot.

    #5) Where’s the video?

    Vegas has video cameras everywhere. After NYC terror attacks we had videos on TV within hours. In this case…in hotels covered by hundreds of videos…6 months later we’ve never seen one video of the killer walking through the hotel. Why?

    #6) The girlfriend.
    Marilou Danley just happened to fly to Philippines a few days before her boyfriend carried out worst mass shooting in US history? Really? Great timing for her. And she just happens to admit her fingerprints could be on the ammo? And she just happened to erase her Facebook profile within an hour of the shooting…even though no one had released the name of Stephen Paddock in the media. How did she know it was him? How did she know to erase her FB page?

    Oh, and the Philippines just happens to be a ISIS Islamic terror hotspot. And Paddock just happened to wire her $100,000 in the Philippines days before the massacre.

    And Paddock just happened to have child porn on his computer. And ISIS is known to make money through child sex trafficking and child slavery. More on this “child porn” connection later.

    #7) Money laundering.

    Paddock had no obvious huge income stream. Paddock himself bragged that he was “one of the biggest High Roller video poker players in America.” Really? He lived in a $300,000 home in Mesquite, Nevada. That’s as middle class as you get. No one in his neighborhood could afford to gamble millions of dollars on video poker.

    Sounds a lot like money laundering to me. What better way to mask money laundering than running millions through a Vegas casino. Who money launders? Terror groups like ISIS.

    #8) Rich or “Heavily in Debt?”
    First, we were told by the media that Paddock was “rich” and “a huge High Roller.” Of late, the Vegas Sheriff changed the story to “he was heavily in debt and may have had a grudge against casino for heavy losses.” Which one is it? Why does the story keep changing? Paddock left an estate of about $5 million. Why would he be angry at MGM over a few losses in the past year? How was his $5 million fortune earned? Money laundering still fits the puzzle. Perhaps he made partners along the way with ISIS?

    #9) Paddock Paid Off His Marker?
    This has NEVER been mentioned in the media once. I got this inside scoop directly from Paddock’s longtime Mandalay Bay casino host. Paddock owed MGM $100,000. On Friday night before the massacre Paddock won $100,000 playing video poker. If he was planning to die on Sunday he certainly would have blown it on hookers and cocaine. Or bought a Maserati and had it shipped to his girlfriend. Or gambled even higher amounts with the $100,000. But that’s not what Paddock did.

    Instead he took the $100K and paid off his $100K MGM marker. He paid off his debt in full? Why would a crazed killer do something so responsible? Why would a suicidal man do that?

    He wouldn’t. This was a man expecting to come back to MGM to enjoy many future free High Roller suites (provided by MGM). He clearly wanted MGM to keep giving him VIP treatment. This was not a man planning on mass murder and suicide within 48 hours.

    #10) Child porn.

    Police say they found child porn on Paddock’s computer. But it was announced after the shooting, Paddock’s hard drive was gone. Removed from his computer. Nowhere to be found.

    So how did police find child porn? Not one journalist questioned this development. No one ever asked, “Did the hard drive miraculous re-appear?” Police never said a thing. First it was gone. Then they found child porn. Strange.

    But if in fact child porn was found (on another computer removed from his home, or office) wouldn’t it make sense to investigate the connection to ISIS and the Philippines, where child sex trafficking is a primary mode of funding for Islamic terror groups?

    #11) Every single witness from that concert that I spoke to, or heard, claimed there were multiple shooters.
    Some swore they saw multiple shooters. Some say they were being fired at from different directions and levels. Yet police and FBI have ruled that out. So, all the witnesses are wrong?

    #12) Jesus Campos. The “hero” security guard. Did he show up before…during…or after the massacre? His timeline changed multiple times. Why? MGM coaching him on timeline to make their liability less severe?
    Why would the ONLY witness to worst mass shooting in US history be allowed to leave the country days later?

    Worse, HOW did he drive many hours to Mexico with a bullet hole in his leg…only days after being seriously wounded? He needed a cane to appear on “Ellen” a month later. Yet he was fine 3 days after being shot? Does any of this make sense?

    The amazing thing never mentioned by mainstream media was Ellen is not only a comedian, but she has multi-million-dollar partnership with MGM, with Ellen themed slot machines. So the only witness to the worst mass shooting in US history gave exactly one interview EVER. Ellen herself announced it would be his only interview ever. Yet it was arranged to be given exclusively to a comedian who is partners with MGM?

    Where has Jesus disappeared to since? Never seen again? Is he living in a penthouse of a MGM property somewhere in world with millions in bank, courtesy of MGM? FBI and police don’t find this odd?

    Top security execs at MGM called my radio show. All of them said they never heard the name Jesus Campos in their lives before the shooting. How is this possible?

    Was he even registered as a security guard with State of Nevada? Or with MGM? Friends of mine got into the MGM database and Campos name either was never there, or it was scrubbed from the system. Why? An investigative reporter friend of mine reports Campos name was never in the state of Nevada system.

    #13) Terrible & faulty security at MGM.
    I have written about this storyline in my Las Vegas newspaper column multiple times. Dozens of MGM employees have called my radio show, or emailed me, to tell me how terrible security was at all MGM properties. My newspaper columns lay out a condemnation of MGM and their pathetic CEO Jim Murren. See:
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinio...rity-policies/


    COMMENTARY: MGM’s CEO risks angering many of his customers

    It gets worse. Jim Murren announced that MGM would match employee donations to the Council on American Islamic Relations. They were named by the Justice Department as “an unindicted co-conspirator” to Muslim terrorism.

    Las Vegas Review-Journal




    COMMENTARY: Sun publisher’s defense of Jim Murren comes up woefully short

    Lucky for me, Greenspun’s passionate defense of Murren was in the Sun. That means no more than 15 people read it — including Greenspun’s wife, children and brother.

    Las Vegas Review-Journal


    Murren slashed the budget for security…fired experienced guards…hired part time guys with no experience our training…he made the properties a gun free zone…had inferior walkie-talkies with dead zones all over the hotel…employees had no crisis training…no one was prepared…MGM had no rapid response SWAT team…Mandalay Bay changed guards at the exact same time each night: 10 PM- which is why the shooting started at that time when security was most disorganized…and worst of all…MGM let High Rollers use freight elevators with no security present, or questions asked. MGM guards called me to say they could NEVER question High Rollers about anything, or they’d be fired. So, no one ever asked Paddock a thing.

    Amazingly, nothing has changed. Today, months later, my spies report they got on a Mandalay Bay freight elevator and went up to infamous 32nd floor. No one stopped them. No one asked them a question.

    CEO Jim Murren is a pathetic, bleeding-heart, liberal who believes in donating MGM shareholder money to organizations like CAIR (called a Muslim terror front for Hamas by even Democrat US Senator Chuck Schumer) and The Southern Poverty Law Center (who puts Christians on “Hate Lists”). See two of my columns about MGM CEO Murren:

    Murren should certainly be under scrutiny for his incompetence and lack of proper security at Mandalay Bay, yet the liberal-biased mainstream media has protected him. They’ve never aimed the cannon at him once. Why? Are liberals protecting a “fellow traveler?”

    #14) The mysterious stock sales patterns of Jim Murren and top MGM execs and Board of Directors in the days before the Vegas Massacre.
    See:
    COMMENTARY: More questions surrounding the Las Vegas Strip shooting

    Were there factors at play that led to this property being chosen for this terrible mass murder?

    Las Vegas Review-Journal


    Why hasn’t media reported this? Is anyone aware by pure chance/coincidence the CEO of MGM sold most of his MGM shares in the weeks leading up to the massacre…and so did his top executives and some of his top Board members. How strange is that timing? When does this EVER happen at a public company?

    I’ve never heard of a CEO of a public company selling off every share in his own company. What a complete lack of confidence. Does anyone think this is strange? Has anyone in the media ever asked the CEO about this? His eye was certainly not on the ball. Knowing all of this, it’s certainly not surprising that Paddock (or his partners in crime) chose a MGM property for the site of The Vegas Massacre.

    Why has his MGM Board kept him employed? He’s a CEO that sold most of his stock, then presided over the worst terror attack in US history. These issues don’t concern the MGM Board? Bizarre.

    #15) ISIS.
    Here’s the BILLION DOLLAR question no one wants to discuss. Why? Did the FBI miss an obvious sign again? Does MGM have serious insurance issues if this attack is declared “terrorism”? Is Las Vegas worried about tying ISIS to Vegas and hurting tourism? Yet the signs were clear that there could be a connection to ISIS from the start.

    First, ISIS promised in a video (covered in blood) in the Spring of 2017 to attack Vegas. See:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.3196042

    Second, the Vegas Massacre had the M/O of several previous ISIS attacks. They seem to enjoy attacking concerts and hotels. See the Paris nightclub concert and Manchester Arianna Grande concert. Not to mention numerous hotels attacks throughout the world.

    But this never occurred to the FBI?

    And Paddock (or his partners in crime) just happened to pick a country music concert? A place filled with people hated by ISIS or any Islamic extremist group- whites, Christians, Trump-loving conservatives. Coincidence?

    But this never occurred to the FBI?

    Third, then ISIS took credit 4 times for the Vegas massacre.

    Never before in history has ISIS ever taken credit four times for any terror attack.

    The FBI immediately announced ISIS wasn’t involved. How strange is that? ISIS promised to attack Vegas. A hotel and concert was attacked. ISIS claimed credit four times. The FBI took five minutes to rule them out as suspects.

    The Islamic terror experts I interviewed on my radio show- to a man- all believed this had at least some Islamic terror fingerprints on it…all believed ISIS has to be (at the very least) a leading suspect…

    and all agreed ISIS does NOT have a history of taking credit for attacks they aren’t involved in. The ISIS experts I interviewed reported a false claim by ISIS only happened once- at a Philippines casino. And even that attack is in dispute. The Philippines government calls it a robbery. Many terror experts believe it was clearly ISIS coordinated.

    In history, ISIS has never taken credit for any attack four times. Still the FBI ruled them out almost instantly. Why?

    #16) Did CEO Murren & MGM pay for a terrorism insurance rider?
    This is just an educated guess. I called several insurance experts. All reported that typical insurance policies for billion dollar hotels don’t pay off for terror attacks. The company needs to purchase an expensive additional insurance rider specifically for terrorism. Yet MGM executives who have called me all claim that Murren is cheap and focused 24/7 on cutting costs.

    If MGM had no insurance rider for terrorism, they desperately need this attack to be classified as “murder by a madman” versus “terrorist attack.” It’s the difference between collecting a billion dollars (or more) from insurance…or nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. This could be why police, FBI, MGM and everyone involved is so desperate to not mention terrorism. MGM is the world’s leading gaming company. Billions of dollars of stock investors, thousands of jobs and the economy of Las Vegas are all effected by the classification of this attack.

    I made this guess publicly for the first time on my radio show when interviewing an attorney representing 50 of the survivors. He was in Vegas that day for a meeting of all the attorneys from across the country involved in this case. He was shocked at my educated guess. He stated live on the radio that this was exactly what his fellow attorneys suspect.

    #17) The autopsies.
    The Las Vegas coroner refused to release the autopsies. The media had to sue to get information released. The media won and the Nevada Supreme Court ruled the information had to be released to the public. See:

    Yet at that point, the Vegas police demanded $500,000 to release mountains of their info on the Vegas Massacre to the media. Once again, a Nevada judge had to rule they have no right to do that. See:
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/0...e-information/

    Nevada Supreme Court overturns Las Vegas shooting autopsies ruling

    District Judge Richard Scotti violated the First Amendment when he barred the Las Vegas Review-Journal from reporting on the redacted autopsy report of an Oct. 1 shooting victim, the Nevada Supreme Court ruled Tuesday.

    Las Vegas Review-Journal

    Strange. Why are Vegas authorities so desperate to not release information on the Vegas Massacre to the public?

    #18) Trump.
    There is no biggest supporter or defender of President Trump than myself. I think he’s the greatest conservative president in U.S. history. But he’s been strangely silent on this high-profile incident. It’s not just any incident. It’s the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

    Even liberal Trump-haters have to agree on these points. President Trump loves controversy. Right? He loves to weigh in on every crisis or controversial issue, right? He doesn’t care if he offends anyone, right? He loves to dominate headlines, right? Don’t all liberals agree about that?

    But the President has mysteriously steered clear of this story.

    NEVER a peep from Trump about his theories on The Vegas Massacre. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Crickets. In the almost 6 months since this terrible event, the President has never said a word…no theory…never ventured even a guess. Isn’t that strange? Out of character?

    #19) To sum it all up…
    We’re almost at the 6-month mark. And we know as little now as the day after the massacre.

    How can this be? After every other mass shooting we know everything within hours. With this one, the most-high profile mass shooting in U.S. history, we know NOTHING. Zero. We’re completely in the dark. Don’t you find this strange?
    But I’m not done yet…

    I’ve saved the best for last. Drumroll please…

    #20) Now here’s my biggest theory/mystery of all…

    The Timeline:
    A working theory of mine.

    A highly suspicious/mysterious timeline, almost impossible it could be a coincidence…

    October 1- Vegas Massacre

    October 25-29- Just days after Vegas Massacre, President Trump’s son-in- law Jared Kushner makes secret unannounced trip to Saudi Arabia- as per “Politico.”

    Purpose? As announced by Politico- “President Trump is asking for Saudi Arabia’s help in “combating terror financing.”
    Media reporting on what they termed a “secret trip.”
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...-arabia-244291
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...rticle/2638933
    http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...-arabia-695859

    November 5- Only days later, the roundup begins by the King of Saudi Arabia and his security forces- they arrest, detain, interrogate and TORTURE over 300 billionaire Saudi Princes. These are the most wealthy and powerful men in Saudi Arabia. Why? Why does this happen only days after a last-minute, secret visit by Trump’s son-in-law with an urgent diplomatic message from President Trump?

    See media reports:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...i-princes.html
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/americ...volved/5619654
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ex...rge-1489501498

    Even more remarkable of a “coincidence”…
    One specific Saudi prince who was arrested and tortured was Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, who just happens to be the owner of Four Seasons hotel- on the top floors of Mandalay Bay.

    Read a story on his torture:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...us-mercenaries

    See CNBC story on the arrest. CNBC compared it to arresting Bill Gates or Warren Buffett in the USA. See:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/06/saud...n-buffett.html

    That specific Prince was then transferred to highest security prison in Saudi Arabia to be tortured. See comments from his business partner Bill Gates about the arrest:
    https://www.albawaba.com/business/bi...-talal-1054336

    Civil Rights groups announced to the media how worried they were about the billionaire prince. See:
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/sa.../17/id/837776/

    This doesn’t seem more than a little strange? Could the timing of all of this be just a little coincidence?

    A prince worth $15 to $20 billion…partners with Bill Gates in owning the Las Vegas Four Seasons…just happens to be arrested, tortured and imprisoned in highest security prison in Saudi Arabia?

    All happening within days after Vegas Massacre, which happened to occur literally on his property (just floors below his hotel).
    Meanwhile President Trump- who loves chaos, crisis and controversy- is strangely silent. Not one word about the Vegas Massacre in 6 months.

    All a coincidence?

    Or was the Vegas Massacre some kind of international incident involving Islamic terror cells either coming from Saudi Arabia…or financed by Saudi billionaire princes sympathetic to the ISIS cause?

    Were these 300+ arrests of billionaire princes by the new King of Saudi Arabia within days of getting an urgent diplomatic message from President Trump just a coincidence?

    Or was all of this based on what happened in Vegas?

    Have I put 2 + 2 together? Certainly, this storyline and timeline is worth exploring and asking questions. The mainstream media has never said a word. Crickets. Asleep at the switch.

    As wild as all of these questions and scenarios are, they make far more sense than the story we’ve been told by FBI, police and our government.

    The scenario I’ve laid out makes far more sense than the fact that we know nothing about the worst mass shooting 6 months after the fact.

    We know nothing about the shooter, or his motive.
    There are no videos.

    There was no suicide note.

    A 60-year old overweight nobody, with no military or law enforcement experience, became Rambo overnight, and without help, pulled off the worst mass shooting in US history?

    If you believe that story, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

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    As with 9/11 these globalist attacks are complicated if ISIS were involved in LV,
    Saudi factions and others were possibly also, and the crackdown simultaneously in
    Jeddah seems more than coincidental which has been suggested previously,as with
    the press reporting compared with Florida in its lack of openness .....


    US allies funding ISIS – Gen. Dempsey
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    Published on 17 Sep 2014
    On Tuesday, Gen. Martin Dempsey told Congress that US allies in the Middle East
    are funding and arming the Islamic State. Qatar, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are
    thought to be the main sources of foreign money for ISIS, according to experts,
    while the radical group also builds its finances by racketeering and selling illicit oil.
    RT’s Ameera David speaks to doctoral researcher Jake Diliberto to get more insight.


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    LAURA LOOMER, Congress To Be Briefed,
    New Vegas Details - ALEX JONES INFOWARS



    Published on 15 Mar 2018
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    Reported Vegas Shooter Sympathized With ANTIFA



    Published on 19 Mar 2018...The Alex Jones Channel..
    A shocking new report which cites a classified intelligence file claims that
    Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock was motivated to commit
    his rampage over his fury at the election of Donald Trump.

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    During my absorption of the most excellent Connor O'Ryan material on the S4 thread, and specifically during Volume 2: Bill provided links to the Avalon Library via this post http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1207572

    In his capacity as a sentry and in his role as sometime assassin (Delta Team) a comment, or a passage of his testimony at least, leapt out. It's a shame I can't remember exactly where in this volume he made his comment and I regret not being able to recall the precise timestamp there.

    He recalls a time when he, and a handful of other Delta Team members were, on more than one occasion, bussed from S4 to the Tropicana Hotel - the exact route was always obscured from them in some way and the journey sometimes circuitous - and if I've remembered correctly would then be 'moved' to wherever in the world they were instructed to make the assigned 'hit' (presumably via McCarran International Airport). This was back in the 1980s.

    Its relevance to the Las Vegas October 2017 tragedy is that it must have been a possibility that Delta Team members still stationed today at the S4 facility may well have been part of the hit squad, or multiple shooting team, bussed in in a similar way to do the 'job'.

    This is of course conjecture, but, would I think be a plausible possibility here.
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    Watching this vid still looks like someone collecting weapons for a arms deal.
    It would be interesting to see if he had done things like this before on old
    security tapes. It still seems a lot of weapons for a few minutes shooting
    as he would of known he would soon be caught. Why the release now ?


    How the Las Vegas Gunman Planned a Massacre, in 7 Days of Video | NYT - Visual Investigations
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    Using exclusive surveillance footage obtained from MGM Resorts, we pieced
    together the last days of Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas gunman. He plays video
    poker, laughs with hotel staff and hauls bag after bag of weapons into his suite.
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    I watched the security footage. It proves nothing. He could have had bags and bags of cash or dirty underwear or gold bars in the luggage. If he had a thing about germs, which is reported in the press, who knows what the heck he was doing.

    The narration on the video assumes what is inside those bags is guns and ammo. I question that asssumption.

    Also, guns and ammunition are extremely heavy, even when broken down. You mean to tell me he let the bell hop push a cart loaded with thousands of rounds of ammo? No way José.

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    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    I watched the security footage. It proves nothing. He could have had bags and bags of cash or dirty underwear or gold bars in the luggage. If he had a thing about germs, which is reported in the press, who knows what the heck he was doing.

    The narration on the video assumes what is inside those bags is guns and ammo. I question that asssumption.

    Also, guns and ammunition are extremely heavy, even when broken down. You mean to tell me he let the bell hop push a cart loaded with thousands of rounds of ammo? No way José.
    It's only 6 minutes long but I bailed after just over a minute. The premise is entirely wrong. Give me strength.

    It's a shame that Jake Morphonios' material is now no longer available; no thanks to Youtube for that - he's pulled his entire library of 100 pieces of film from there. That guy, Jake, is the absolute real deal as far as dot joining and proper diligent and intelligent objective research is concerned. Glad I managed to download what I could while it was available.

    Whoever made this film needs to go away and do some serious homework.

    I agree. This is in no way conclusive at all and, frankly, just garbage. Those bags could contain cheeseballs for all we know.

    Total junk, and my time is precious, so, this film is a total fail and I've saved 5 minutes of my life not having to have my intellect offended any further by it.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Interesting article highlighting recent changes in Saudi and links to US.Gives a little
    background whether part of the purge spilled over into Vegas or not...

    Why the Saudi Crown Prince Is on a Coast-to-Coast Tour of the U.S.


    Published on 23 Mar 2018
    Saudi Arabia's crown prince Mohammed bin Salman is on a tour of the United
    States, as he presses ahead with his plans to reform Saudi Arabia from an
    ultraconservative petrostate to a country that is open to business and eager for
    foreign investment. WSJ's Niki Blasina reports. Photo: Getty.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman speaks excellent English
    and is modernising his country . Trump also emphasis the end to funding
    terrorism part of the bigger picture.....

    President Trump holds meeting with Saudi Arabian Crown Prince
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhw37reiFj0
    Published on 20 Mar 2018
    President Donald Trump holds a meeting in the Oval Office with Saudi Arabian
    Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman.
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