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    Yep...

    ... Luxor... Pyramid... Sphinx... Obelisk... Sacrificial ground...









    That's as good as a handwritten signature...
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    Good analysis / research reporting in this new video;




    Cui bono; for whose benefit..
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Apologies if this may already be here - it's a very active thread and there is a lot to take in.

    More footage from the event and this time clear audio that would suggest, quite incontrovertibly, that more than one individual was involved here. Listen carefully:


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    Why Patsy Stephen Paddock Was Set Up To Be A Mass Murderer

    Posted on October 3, 2017 by State of the Nation - images & additional info at link (don't know what to make of this one, either, but the general crux of the story appears to be gathering some ground... I'd recommend reading the original at the link below ... KE)

    Source: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=85342

    The capstone and Illuminati all-seeing eye lit up atop the Luxor Resort pyramid (located right next to the Mandalay Bay) during the Harvest concert mass shooting (image)
    Mandalay Bay Resort Was The Setting For Another ‘Fast & Furious’ Type Operation Gone Bad
    But that’s not the worst of it!

    State of the Nation
    “Only now does the official narrative make sense.
    The FEDs had no choice, as they saw it. Either
    Stephen Paddock was a card-carrying FBI agent
    or he was a government contractor who had to be
    sacrificed… along with a lot of innocent concert-
    goers. “

    — Veteran Intelligence Analyst

    There’s a very good reason why the Stephen Paddock story makes no sense whatsoever. That’s because it makes no sense whatsoever … to anyone, anywhere.

    Truly, the official story of what happened in Las Vegas is unraveling quicker than a cat playing with 3 balls of yarn*.

    Stephen Paddock the government agent

    First understand that patsy Stephen Paddock has been employed as a IRS agent, a defense auditor and a U.S. Postal mail carrier. Obviously he was drawn to government service.

    Stephen Paddock had been an IRS agent and defense auditor

    The mainstream media explanation for exactly how Paddock has preoccupied himself over the past many years as a gambler who traveled the high seas is a perfect alibi for what he really was—a serious agent of Deep State. We already know that Deep State will eliminate its various agents or take them out of commission by giving them new identities whenever necessary.

    The key point here is that Paddock was chosen to be the patsy for very good reason which will eventually reveal itself.

    Special Note:
    The primary signature of a false flag operation, whether the staged attack is a transparent hoax or not, is the immediate identification of a patsy also known as a lone gunman (or lone wolf). Even a 7-year-old knows that it’s impossible for law enforcement to make such a quick determination as to who the actual perpetrator is. To then declare that an individual acted completely alone when the crime scene hasn’t even been fully investigated is, at once, totally ridiculous, implausible and disingenuous. Yes, they really do think we are that stupid. But there’s also a crucial necessity for this “lone gunman” MO. Fixing the blame squarely on only one culprit closes off the possibility that there was a greater conspiracy at work. Because the true perps will do whatever is necessary not to be found out, they ALWAYS pick a patsy and run with him or her no matter how farfetched and flimsy the official narrative. In this fashion they are self-empowered to mock and marginalize all the conspiracy theorists. These conspiracy realists intuitively know that only a very deep and wide criminal conspiracy could have executed such a complex operation as Las Vegas. More importantly, these truth seekers understand that the coverup conspiracy of silence ends up being bigger than the crime itself. All of Deep State gets behind the government’s story, and God help the one who leaves the reservation of political correctness.

    Official narrative full of holes (Btw, where are all the bullet holes?)

    The narrative that was created to set Paddock up as the worst mass murderer in U.S. history is so full of holes that there must be a very good explanation. And so there is.

    The FBI apparently had another Fast & Furious fiasco to deal with and they needed to put it to bed quickly. What the exact details of that scheme were will likely never be known. However, the following explanation probably comes very close to what may have happened to Paddock as far as the FBI was aware of.

    Stephen Paddock outed as an undercover arms dealer involved in ‘gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious‘

    Everything about this case has screamed of Paddock’s innocence. There’s not a single shred of evidence that he would ever commit such a heinous crime. His brother’s incredulity and robust defense of him was particularly compelling.

    “Horrified” brother of Las Vegas suspect says he’s “dumbfounded”

    What Paddock did have were LOTs of guns in his hotel room at the Mandalay Resort. How did he relocate such an arsenal into his hotel room? Clearly, such a purposeful ‘gun-running operation’ could only be conducted with the foreknowledge of both the hotel management and the FBI. Insiders know that gambling casinos are often used in this manner.

    Multiple players and co-conspirators


    Applying some common sense and a little intuition while analyzing this crazy saga shows that this is simply a bad deal gone awry. . And that Stephen Paddock found himself right in the middle of it just as Lee Harvey Oswald did in Dallas in November of 1963.

    Paddock’s brother expresses what many people now know: that Stephen Paddock had absolutely nothing to do with this terrorist event. As for who was really responsible, it appears that this was another one of those false flags within a false flag. As most people know by now, the Central Intelligence Agency implements black operations on a strictly need-to-know basis and in a highly compartmentalized fashion. This structure enables then to run simultaneously various false flags which appear to operate at cross purposes. In this way the decision-makers at the very top are completely buffered by the multiple levels of intrigue, as well as the layers of machinations within them. By purposeful design, running a false flag within a false flag, together with a hoax, becomes nearly impossible to make sense of. At the end of the day, however, TPTB do want everyone to know that the official narrative is so incredible that it could not have happened. But why would they do that? (See the upcoming Part II of this series)

    KEY POINT: Whenever the power elite is really desperate, they simply ring up The Company at Langley (aka C.I.A. headquarters). The spooks can pull off the shelf — pre-manufactured — a false flag operation that is literally ready to execute. This particular on-demand type of product/service is often not perfectly engineered for the intended context; hence, it has a lot of kinks and imperfections. Remember the senseless and inscrutable San Bernardino killings that occurred right in the midst of Putin’s Russia exposing the Obama Administration for creating, funding and arming ISIS. That black op was also pulled off the shelf in a moment of great need for the NWO cabal to change the global conversation. San Bernardino Solved: A False Flag Within a False Flag — Patriots Versus Globalists

    Even Israel has signaled that they had a hand in this psyop. Of course, the psyop aspect is so prominent that the U.S. Intelligence Community is also deeply involved. Not only were the FBI, CIA gun-runners and ISIS arms traffickers involved in this crazy affair, so too was the Las Vegas MPD and Clark County Sheriff’s Department.

    Israel National News & Reshet Bet Radio Both Report American Muslim Samir al-Hajib As Las Vegas Shooter


    Deep State has a lot of problems right now and distracting the American people was of paramount importance. Staging a shocking and horrific massacre in the gambling capital of the world — neon-lit LAS VEGAS — certainly diverted everyone’s attention from several ongoing debacles. Las Vegas Mass Shooting: False Flag, PsyOp & Black Op to Distract

    Then there are those agents of Deep State whose job it is to make sure that the selected social media are utilized to pass the word — LAS VEGAS — around to those who need to know well in advance. Surreptitiously using the social networks to efficiently disseminate secret messages has been standard operating procedure for many years. YouTuber Perfectly PREDICTS Las Vegas 2 Weeks BEFORE the Incident!

    What’s the back story?

    The critical point here is that Paddock had no idea that he was being used as the main character in the largest mass casualty event in American history after the terror attacks of 9/11.

    Now just why did TPTB really stage this mass shooting? Las Vegas Massacre: Here’s Who and Why They Did It

    But why, pray tell, did they do it in Las Vegas right in front of the Luxor Resort pyramid and its all-seeing eye? Illuminati Esoterica Associated With The Las Vegas Mass Shooting

    Let’s not forget that this “human sacrifice” took place at the Harvest Country Music Festival during the Hebrew Fall Feasts, and on the day after Yom Kippur. “Also known as Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur is the holiest day of the year for the Jews.”[1]

    Unlike the other days of the year, the High Priest alone had to perform the daily offerings and sacrifices, in addition to the special sacrifices for the Day of Atonement.

    As for the criminal masterminds who were behind this obvious false flag terror operation, they are the same cabal who did 9/11.

    LAS VEGAS BLACK OP PERPETRATED BY ALL THE USUAL SUSPECTS
    The Deeply Hidden Plot


    The Las Vegas slaughter was staged-managed for very specific reasons relating to the preceding link. Whenever the headlines read as follows there are always precise aims behind them: “Deadliest Mass Shooting In US History”: At Least 59 Killed, 530 Injured After Shooter Opens Fire At Las Vegas Concert

    What might those hidden purposes be?

    First, that 59 people died … and that 530 plus were injured, some gravely wounded.

    What this allows for is that many ‘victims’, even though they didn’t die, could then be transported to a fastidiously controlled location such as a pre-selected hospital and killed, or sacrificed. This happened during the shocking Paris terror attacks in 2015 just prior to the signing of the Paris Climate Agreement. They apparently needed a group sacrifice for that historic event as well.

    Many Alt Media journalists, private investigators and deep researchers have reported that not a single instance of blood, of a dead body, of a bleeding victim, or a bullet hole has been photographed or videoed. Likewise, there has not been a single credible hospital interview with the bed-ridden wounded that are typically conducted in the wake of such mass casualty events. Why has not a speck of hard evidence of gunshots been seen or presented by the media — mainstream or alternative — to date?

    Because, there was an extremely covert criminal conspiracy conducted to accomplish much more than just another American massacre by yet another white guy who allegedly snapped.

    Conclusion

    The “Harvest” main event, the timing and the location all indicate a clandestine plot was afoot far from anything the Alt Media has yet to report on. The numerology, astrology and quasi-religious overtones also reflects a profoundly occult intention. Moreover, it is the end result of this “Hollywood production” which indicates that this event was quite deliberately carried out to further the destruction of the American Republic.

    There were clearly Archonic forces of chaos at work in front of the Mandalay Bay on Sunday, October 1, 2017. As always, the NWO cabal will attempt to impose their tyrannical order out of the manufactured chaos they fabricated. Therefore, it has never been so essential to watch their every move, especially the doings of the U.S. Congress for the rest of this year.

    ARCHONS: The Demonic Entities That Run The Global Control Matrix


    By shedding the light of awareness on their misguided plans, the perpetrators can be exposed and their misguided schemes short-circuited. And, the American people will then be one step closer to reclaiming their constitutional republic.

    State of the Nation
    October 3, 2017

    Source

    [1] Yom Kippur / יום כפור

    [2] Yom Kippur

    Screenshot of original article:

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    Source: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=85342

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    Quote Yep...

    ... Luxor... Pyramid... Sphinx... Obelisk... Sacrificial ground...
    That was going thru my mind in #113 .....(I just noticed the '13') Uhm !...

    Quote This gives a good visual of the overall attack......

    The Sphinx & pyramid gives it a odd look , probably just me......
    symbols , numbers etc .... ISIS Ancient Egyptian goddess.

    Shooter's angle prevented people from escaping



    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    CNN's Tom Foreman looks at why the Las Vegas shooting was so deadly.
    ====================================================
    ====================================================


    This is a odd one posted on RT America and may have been the last non involved
    person to see him, and says he looked normal and was a regular who always
    ordered online. " good tipper " which seems to be a common comment....

    'I was looking crazy guy in the face' - Pizza delivery man supposedly last to see Vegas shooter



    Published on 4 Oct 2017

    The last guy to deliver pizza to the Route 91 music festival assailant that killed 59
    and wounded over 500 spoke out about "looking at a crazy guy in the face," in
    Mesquite, on Tuesday.Skylar Dexter, a Domino's Pizza employee, described
    Stephen Paddock as a frequent customer, who was "always a good tipper"
    and "never complained about a pizza".
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by lloyds (here)
    pictures are on live leak showing the room and body of said gun man. if they're real, he definitely took his own life.
    Is this the one showing his head? (WARNING: graphic)... if so, (and if authentic), it's curious that the shells are sitting on top of the blood pool, and that he could shoot himself in the back of the head? (I'm no forensic expert!) Is it also related to this story? (could be getting into "woo woo land", here ... Don't know what to make of either!)
    the gun was in his mouth when the weapon was discharged, this is the most efficient way to suicide (or kill someone and make it look like suicide?) with a fire arm as you shoot out the base of your brain leading to rapid (not instant) death.

    The rounds hit the floor first and his blood flowed under them, there should be a very large mess on the ceiling or wall behind him as well.
    And why was there blood on his chest? (in the picture were his head is visible)

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    Yes, this screams Masonic. The Great Pyramid with a capstone and 33 floors. Shooter (allegedly) on 32nd floor of adjacent hotel. Target in front of Luxor.

    The strobing light on the lower floor appears to be just that to me. After carefully viewing the various videos of it I noticed that the strobing continues AFTER the sound of shooting stops. The taxi video shows it best. Since light travels much faster than sound this doesn't fit. Although a strobe light may have been planted there as a distraction.

    If so, that also brings up the question that if an apparent strobe light shows up like that through the tinted, unbroken windows then it also follows that the repeating flashes of rifle fire would also be visible. Logically, it would be even more visible since the glass was broken out there on the 32nd floor making the flashes even more visible. Has anyone found any videos that show flashes from the 32nd floor where the windows are broken out?

    Also, the bottom picture above in Herve's post #182 shows the Luxor hotel with a cylinder of light being emitted from the capstone of the pyramid. This has the same look as the cylindrical beam of light from Ra/Ptah's ship above the pyramid wherein the initiate is floated up from the sarcophagus through the pyramid and into the ship. It even has a very slight bluish cast to the light that I am very familiar with since I have been floated up in these beams into flying saucers many, many times. Masonic symbols come from the ETs that use them and the symbols are there. Of course, y'all know me--I sometimes look at conspiracies from different possible viewpoints and am unafraid to go out beyond the fringe.

    And Hervé made a salient reference to "sacrificial ground" which directly correlates to the human sacrifice rituals conducted in the sarcophagus room of the Great Pyramid during the same experience of being floated up into the flying saucer from sarcophagus. It did not occur to me that this was a sacrifice until Herve mentioned it. So many dots connecting now in the route 91 "Harvest". (And if this is indeed a "harvest", who or what is being fed?)

    I've never seen that beam coming out of the capstone of the Luxor before. It just struck me in a different way than anyone else because of my previous involvement with the Anunnaki, specifically Ra and Ptah, and being floated from the sarcophagus in this beam of light. It was startling to me. It made me wonder if we might experience an ET false flag in the future. Just speculation of course and there's a lot of that going around now so that's just a thought that crossed my mind.

    To me this incident is definitely a false flag. If the alleged shooter actually did the shooting, it appears to me that he has been MKUltra'd. More likely he didn't do the shooting, IMO. Either way it appears to me that he played the usual role as the patsy.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

    The public is not being told the truth about what really went down in Las Vegas.



    As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him.

    But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.

    The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…

    #1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?

    #2 Were there additional shooters? A taxi driver reportedly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window. A video from another angle and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on. And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video should definitely do it.

    #3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”, and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?

    #4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?

    #5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?

    #6 How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons? Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I really like how Natural News made this point…

    Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

    Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.
    #7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?

    #8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?

    #9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?

    #10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?

    #11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?

    #12 Why was ISIS so eager to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection?

    #13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals”. If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?

    #14 Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.

    #15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…

    In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

    From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”
    #16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible? And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa in any way?

    At first I thought that this was a fairly straightforward story too, but the more I have dug into it the more complex things have become.

    Personally, I have come to the conclusion that Stephen Paddock definitely did not act alone. That means that the others involved in the shooting are still out there, and they must be brought to justice. Let us never forget what these extremely wicked individuals did to innocent civilians such as 27-year-old Tina Frost…

    A 27-year-old woman has lost her right eye after a bullet ripped through her face during the Las Vegas concert massacre.

    Tina Frost remains in a coma in hospital after undergoing surgery to remove the bullet that became lodged in her eye when a gunman opened fire on the crowd of country music fans on Sunday night.

    Frost, who is originally from Maryland but moved to California several years ago, is expected to remain in the coma for a week.
    Whoever did this is going to pay greatly. Yes, I do believe that Stephen Paddock was involved. But he did not act alone, and the mainstream media is doing the public a great disservice by ignoring all of the evidence that this was not just a “lone wolf” operation.


    if you weren’t convinced, this video should definitely do it.

    https://twitter.com/TIME/status/9148...507904/video/1

    Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...nt-want-talk-a

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Found this on Before it's News...not sure of the original source...I'm sure the experts here will find it.

    Photo of a Dead Stephen Paddock? – LVMPD Leaked Intel- Stephen Pollack Was an FBI Agent Supplying Arms to ISIS Inside the USA

    http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternati...k-3559159.html

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Youtube has already removed half of the video links so if you still want to watch it here a link : https://www.liveleak.com/browse
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    TargeT beat me to it, IF (and that's a pretty big "IF") these photos are real, it looks as though he shot himself with the muzzle in his mouth. Given further thought, he may have been shot like that before the swat team entered and left as a "patsy"

    just surmising...

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    A few more points from Jim Stone:
    The photo below is being marketed as "Police secure area after Mandalay Bay shooting". It appears legit. If so, there is no official story, it is DOA.

    Ok, to get things started:

    First of all, this photo is huge, and clear. save it (with a double click, not a right click) to desktop and then view it as large as needed to confirm the following:
    1. The windows that should be broken by this time on Mandalay Bay are not broken. They must have been kicked out later in the night.

    2. There is no ongoing medical cleanup, and the stage is turned off. You can't see the ground, but it is obviously a no action moment. Additionally, there is no investigation happening at Mandalay Bay in the appropriate room because the lights are off. The appropriate room is 9 floors down from the top of where the vertical lights start, or 6 floors down from where the exterior (wider) concrete starts.

    3. This photo is obviously staged, and was taken on Giles street. It is obvious the street is shut down at the time of this photo, thus confirming the time frame it was purportedly from. Traffic in Vegas never stops, you can't have this type of photo going on at any time unless the street is shut down. Also, the street is covered in litter, which Vegas does not tolerate. This would strongly indicate that it was indeed taken after a horde of concert goers split.
    WHAT IF the sound of gunfire was piped through the speakers, and it never happened at all? The speakers would surely be good enough to fake it. I am not going to expound on this, but I gotta say, this never made one second of news in Mexico which is very odd. Was this purely an American psy op? It is still clearly night time in this photo (below), why are there no police or ambulance lights present if there is a huge recovery operation underway? Why are the lights out in the room this happened in? Why are the windows still there? THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMM . . . . .


    High rez picture Here (<---)

    Important to note: The left window that is later broken (after this photo) has a reflective or interior lit portion on it in this photo. It is not a drape sticking out, because it is only showing on the bottom portion of the window, and other similar anomalies show up on many windows in this photo. Please reference the other (daytime) photos that clearly show it is completely broken out later, which you can clearly see is not the case in this photo.


    This labels the 31st floor as it being the 32nd floor... just count 6 floors down the change in building design to find the "broken windows" floor



    THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMM . . . . .

    Then, there is this strange blip on the radar screen:
    [...]

    On that note, don't forget how damning this Israeli newspaper report is, which happened only 5 hours after the shooting, long before the police could have had any specific answers to report. This bunked news report, released WAY TOO EARLY proves Israel was involved in this shooting:

    When a screw up is that grave, there's no getting over it. They called the patsy by his "Islamic name" when his family claimed he was agnostic, and did it before the dust settled. How did the Israeli paper come up with such specific Islamic insights so quickly?
    ============================================

    So... what is it:
    • Israeli intelligence giving off the wrong name/guy? or,
    • SWAT/FBI shooting the wrong patsy?
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    #LasVegasShooting #DeepState #FalseFlag Suspicions
    — Lionel on "Real News With David Knight"



    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    False Flag: A political or military act orchestrated in such a way that it
    appears to have been carried out by a party who is not in fact responsible.

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    I posted these vids to show there were real casualties, despite whatever else
    may have been going on.......

    Iraq War Veteran Helped Direct Cops To Vegas Shooter’s Room

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0APKg_r6lw
    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    Far from his Fort Worth home, Bethel is in Las Vegas for an IT conference. Now,
    police are crediting the Haltom High School graduate with helping lead them to the
    room where Stephen Paddock, 64, from Mesquite, Nevada was shooting into a
    crowd of more than 22,000 people.

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    Iraq vet steals truck, races dozens to hospital after Vegas shooting
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP3Pm9p-H_M
    Published on 3 Oct 2017
    Marine veteran Taylor Winston and his girlfriend were dancing at the Route 91
    Harvest country music festival when gunfire began Sunday night. Instead of fleeing
    the scene of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, he drove more
    than two dozen victims to the hospital. Norah O'Donnell reports.

    ====================================================
    Father of local shooting victim talks about daughter's call from hospital

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXwIRAk-M4
    Published on 2 Oct 2017
    Norfolk nurse Allison Crute is recovering in a Las Vegas hospital after getting shot
    in the arm, while her father waits and prays back home in Virginia Beach.

    ====================================================
    Las Vegas massacre survival stories emerge
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6KgCqUQD4
    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    Claudia Cowan shares stories about heroes.

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    Trump: Doctors, nurses have done a job that's incredible


    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    The president and the first lady met with shooting survivors at Las Vegas hospital.
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    Gowdy: Vegas shooting is an 'act of unmitigated depravity'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du2D5SV4A2U
    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    On 'The Daily Briefing,' the congressman discusses the future of the gun control
    debate in the aftermath of the shooting
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    High rez picture Here (<---)
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    Oh Boy, did you notice the "Devils Hand" ? In the middle on the left a tiny bit down. It´s a red "Devils Hand" holding a coke. Left from the "Route 91 Harvest".
    The longer one looks at the picture the stranger it becomes. Thats with the barefoot guy with no t-shirt on having an american flag in his pocket?
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    Oh god, I'm seeing patterns again.

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    Alex jones has posted several new segments but they are a bit muddled with
    on going speculation about Paddock possibly working for a intel agency and this
    could have been a arms deal gone wrong, not worth posting those vids yet as it is
    fluid live thought/debate.

    This vid is from Paul Joseph Watson focusing on the one shooter theory...

    Strange Things About the Las Vegas Massacre



    Paul Joseph Watson...
    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    Conspiracies debunked, real questions asked.

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    'Nobody even knows who he was' - Mesquite residents react to neighbor shooter


    Published on 4 Oct 2017

    Residents of Mesquite, Nevada, described the moment they heard neighbour
    Stephen Paddock was a neighbour in their retirement community on Tuesday.
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    I've changed my mind about the brother and smell a complicit rat there too.

    I noticed some of the points this guys makes too about the second interview, and realize now that they really are big red flags that should be spotlighted.

    But nobody has mentioned what I think is an even bigger red flag about it - when in history has one of the main PTB players, CBS, let a live interview run-on unedited for 20+ minutes?? There's not a chance in hell of it happening unless they knew what they were going to get and being done for a specific agenda.

    Wish this guy hadn't titled with 'shocking discovery' like also used by so many false sources, but I think he does a good job anyway of listing those agenda points thru about minute 13 of this 18 minute video.

    This rabbit hole is getting deeper and deeper.


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    Quote I've changed my mind about the brother and smell a complicit rat there too.
    This is where Alex is going , I was not going to post this yet as I said in # 197,
    but since you've posted the vid above its on the same theme , the vids are a bit
    rambling at times...Investigative journalist Laura Loomer suggests Eric Paddock
    may of had a earpiece in and at one time almost said what sounded like Arms
    dealer or something , but corrected himself...........

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    Is Las Vegas Killer's Brother Being Manipulated?



    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    Laura Loomer joins Alex Jones live via Skype to dissect statements
    made by Stephen Paddock's brother, Eric Paddock, on consecutive
    days following the Las Vegas shooting.

    Experts Agree: Las Vegas Shooting Was Terror Attack Against
    Christian Conservatives

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9MpOChtIFs

    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    Alex Jones breaks down Col. Tony Shaffer's analysis on Fox News
    pointing out how Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter, was
    clearly targeting conservatives who may have voted for Trump.


    Are Las Vegas Police Covering Up Events Which Led To Shooting?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We7IZ22uu6Y
    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    Investigative journalist Laura Loomer joins Alex Jones live via Skype to break
    evidence she recently received from employees of the Mandalay Bay resort that
    contradicts official Police reports.
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    by Adam Garrie
    October 4, 2017, 14:58
    The Las Vegas Review-Journal has obtained information that Stephen Paddock, the suspect in the largest mass shooting in modern US history was prescribed a powerful psychotropic drug called diazepam in June of this year, just under four months prior to the shooting.

    This fits a a decades long trend among mass shooters and others who engage in cruel and unusual criminal acts being on powerful, yet legal psychotropic drugs.

    This means that The Duran accurately predicted two crucial realities in respect of the suspect’s profile, first of all that there was a connection to Philippines where an almost identical shooting took place 4 months prior to the Vegas massacre and secondly, that suspect Stephen Paddock was likely taking powerful psychotropic drugs. Both of these claims have now been confirmed.

    According to reports from Las Vegas journalists,
    “Records from the Nevada Prescription Monitoring Program obtained Tuesday show Paddock was prescribed 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21. A woman who answered the phone at Winkler’s office would not make him available to answer questions and would neither confirm nor deny that Paddock was ever a patient.

    Paddock purchased the drug — its brand name is Valium — without insurance at a Walgreens store in Reno on the same day it was prescribed. He was supposed to take one pill a day.

    Diazepam is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of drugs known as benzodizepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behaviour. Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as diazepam can also trigger psychotic experiences, according to drugabuse.com”.
    According to the Nevada state monitoring report, the suspect Stephen Paddock was first prescribed the drugs in 2016.

    This validates an earlier report in The Duran which questioned whether the suspect the the Las Vegas mass shooting was taking powerful psychotropic drugs as were most previous mass shooters.

    Below is the entire original story from The Duran, reproduced in its entirety:
    The United States has the highest rate per capita use of anti-depressant drugs and boasts the highest consumption of opiates in the world. However, according to the World Health Organisation, the United States is not the country with the highest rates of clinical depression, in spite of US doctors tending to over-diagnose mental disorders in comparison with the global average.

    Moreover, there is a clear linkage between criminals who engage in mass shooting attacks and their use of psychotropic anti-depressant drugs. This relationship has been ignored for too long. The mass shooting problem in the United States is a drug problem and many in the US remain in denial. As this piece shall also detail, individuals working for international terrorist organisations have something in common with lone-wolf shooters. The point of commonality is not ideology, but psychotropic drug use.

    Until governments such as that of the United States, cracks down on big pharmaceutical companies, black-market drug dealers and the deep state’s involvement in narcotics trafficking, things will only get worse. It is no coincidence that the number of mass shootings as well as cruel and usual homicides have increased in-line with the use of psychotropic drugs.

    Furthermore, society must work diligently to stigmatise drug use until such a point where being a drug addict is socially derided to the same degree as being a member of a known terrorist organisation.

    The following is a list compiled by WND news, detailing the mass shooters and other obviously insane killers, known to be taking psychotropic drugs prior to or during their killing sprees:
    • Bradley Stone, a former Marine in suburban Philadelphia, shot and killed his ex-wife Nicole Stone, her mother and her grandmother, and he ‘chopped’ Nicole’s sister, her husband and their 14-year-old daughter to death with an ax. Nicole Stone’s 17-year-old nephew was the lone survivor of the three-home massacre. Stone was being treated for mental health issues. After the six slayings, he committed suicide with a lethal mixture of depressants, antidepressants and schizophrenia medications, his autopsy revealed. Police found Bradley Stone’s body in the woods a week before Christmas, 2014, a day after he killed his six victims, police told the New York Daily News.
    • Aaron Ray Ybarra, 26, of Mountlake Terrace, Washington, allegedly opened fire with a shotgun at Seattle Pacific University in June 2014, killing one student and wounding two others. Ybarra said then he “feels he identifies with one of the Columbine killers, whom he identified as Eric Harris,” counselor Deldene J. Garner wrote later in a chemical dependency assessment filed in Edmonds Municipal Court. Ybarra had been referred to the counselor following his arrest in July 2012 for driving drunk on an Edmonds sidewalk. He reported “being diagnosed with Psychosis and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder,” the report said. On occasion, “voices scared him,” Ybarra told the counselor. He said he’d been prescribed with Prozac and Risperdal to help him with his problems.
    • Jose Reyes, the Nevada seventh-grader who went on a shooting rampage at his school in October 2013 was taking a prescription antidepressant at the time, and had told a psychotherapist that he was teased at school, the Associated Press reported. Reyes, 12, opened fire Oct. 21 at Sparks Middle School, killing a teacher and wounding two classmates before committing suicide. His doctor had prescribed 10 mg of Prozac once daily, according to police reports. Toxicology reports indicated that at the time of autopsy the suspect had a generic form of Prozac, Fluoxetine in his system consistent with the prescription given.
    • Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old shooter who killed 20 students and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14 in Newtown, Connecticut, had been prescribed several psychiatric drugs, including Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine, the Business Insider reported. “Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior,” Business Insider reported.
    • Reno Hospital shooter Alan Oliver Frazier, 51, killed his doctor and wounded one other person before killing himself in December 2013 in Reno, Nevada. Frazier took Prozac but didn’t like being dependent on the medication and would sometimes stop using it, his ex-girlfriend told the Associated Press.
    • Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis sprayed bullets at office workers and in a cafeteria on Sept. 16, 2013, killing 13 people including himself. Alexis had been prescribed Trazodone by his Veterans Affairs doctor. Trazadone is a generic antidepressant that is seldom used anymore to treat depression but is widely prescribed for insomnia, experts told the Washington Post.
    • Aurora movie theater shooter James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58 in the July 20, 2012, tragedy in Aurora, Colorado. Thirty-eight days before the attack, the psychiatrist treating suspect James Holmes told a police officer that her patient had confessed homicidal thoughts and was a danger to the public, according to court documents unsealed in April 2013 and reported on by the Denver Post. The psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton, also told the officer that Holmes had stopped seeing her and had been threatening her in text messages and e-mails, the documents state. The officer, Lynn Whitten, responded by deactivating Holmes’ key-card access to secure areas of University of Colorado medical campus buildings, according to search-warrant affidavits. Police found medications in his apartment, including sedatives and the anti-anxiety drug clonazepam. They also found the antidepressant sertraline, the generic version of the antidepressant Zoloft.
    • A 20-year-old woman accused of opening fire and shooting three people in a Gig Harbor, Washington, grocery was charged with murder in October 2012, after one of the victims died. Laura Sorenson appeared in Pierce County Superior Court, where prosecutors filed a charge of first-degree murder against her two months after the death of David Long, 40. Sorenson is accused of walking into the Peninsula Market just before 1 p.m. on Aug. 11, 2012 and firing at customers until she was tackled to the ground. Witnesses told police that Sorenson said something about “killing” people prior to pulling out a revolver from her purse and firing four to five shots. After the shooting, Sorenson revealed to detectives she has a mental condition and is on medication, court documents said, adding she wanted to kill herself and wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone else first, the Komo News reported.
    • The mentally ill gunman who killed a worker and wounded several others at a University of Pittsburgh Medical Center psychiatric hospital in March 2012 had previously threatened staff at an affiliated hospital with a baseball bat. Medical records and other information show 30-year-old John Shick, held a grudge, believing he had misdiagnosed illnesses ranging from a bad ankle to pancreatitis to erectile dysfunction, Allegheny County District Attorney Stephen Zappala Jr. said. Shick twice went to UPMC Shadyside hospital in February with the bat and threatened the staff, and yet Pittsburgh police were not called, Zappala told the Associated Press. Zappala said investigators hadn’t yet determined why Shick targeted UPMC’s Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic, where he was treated twice after he was kicked off the Duquesne University campus for harassing female students with repeated requests for dates. At the second visit, a clinic doctor urged Shick to resume medication for schizophrenia — after his mother told doctors he stopped taking it months before. Shick walked out and skipped a follow-up appointment in December.” His contacts at UPMC began to get more serious and disturbing after that,” said Deputy District Mark Tranquilli, who handles homicide cases for Zappala. In Shick’s apartment, investigators found 43 drugs used to treat 20 conditions, from anti-depressants to medicines for intestinal worms.
    • Mohamed Merah fell in a hail of bullets in a March 22, 2012 raid after shooting seven people at a Jewish school in Toulouse, France, after telling police who sought his surrender that he regretted not “going back to the Jewish school” which would have enabled him to kill more children, according to comments reported by the French newspaper Journal du Dimanche. Merah had been prescribed psychotropic drugs and sleep aides “to calm his stress,” a doctor said.
    • It was reported in March 2012 that Staff Sgt. Robert Bales had killed 15 innocent civilians in Afghanistan, a horrific crime that men in his unit said went beyond the pale even for someone suffering from PTSD. It was later revealed by his wife that Bales was being treated with anti-depressants. She and her husband were both on antidepressants, “as is the rest of the army population….okay maybe not everyone. Just the ones that have been in for several years now, the ones who will actually admit when things are really screwed up,” she told the Daily Beast.
    • Anders Breivik, known as Norway’s “laughing gunman,” killed 77 people, many of them children, in 2011. Norway officials amassed pages and pages of analysis of the horrific crime, but almost nobody noticed that the smirking Breivik was taking large quantities of mind-altering chemicals, the Daily Mail reported. In this case, the substances are an anabolic steroid called stanozolol, combined with an amphetamine-like drug called ephedrine, plus caffeine. The authorities and most of the media were more interested in his non-existent belief in fundamentalist Christianity, the Mail reported.
    • Anabolic steroids were also used heavily by David Bieber, who killed one policeman and tried to kill two more in Leeds, England, in 2003, and by Raoul Moat, who last summer shot three people in Northumberland, killing one and blinding another. Steroids are strongly associated with mood changes, uncontrollable anger and many other problems.
    • Jeff Weise, culprit of the 2005 Red Lake High School shootings, had been taking “antidepressants.”
    • Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox – like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others, a modern and widely prescribed type of antidepressant drug called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs. Harris and fellow student Dylan Klebold went on a hellish school shooting rampage in 1999 during which they killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves. Luvox manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals concedes that during short-term controlled clinical trials, 4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox – that’s 1 in 25 – developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.
    • Patrick Purdy went on a schoolyard shooting rampage in Stockton, California, in 1989, which became the catalyst for the original legislative frenzy to ban “semiautomatic assault weapons” in California and the nation. The 25-year-old Purdy, who murdered five children and wounded 30, had been on Amitriptyline, an antidepressant, as well as the antipsychotic drug Thorazine.
    • Kip Kinkel, 15, murdered his parents in 1998 and the next day went to his school, Thurston High in Springfield, Ore., and opened fire on his classmates, killing two and wounding 22 others. He had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.
    • In 1988, 31-year-old Laurie Dann went on a shooting rampage in a second-grade classroom in Winnetka, Ill., killing one child and wounding six. She had been taking the antidepressant Anafranil as well as Lithium, long used to treat mania.
    • In Paducah, Kentucky, in late 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, son of a prominent attorney, traveled to Heath High School and started shooting students in a prayer meeting taking place in the school’s lobby, killing three and leaving another paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.
    • In 2005, 16-year-old Jeff Weise, living on Minnesota’s Red Lake Indian Reservation, shot and killed nine people and wounded five others before killing himself. Weise had been taking Prozac.
    • 47-year-old Joseph T. Wesbecker, just a month after he began taking Prozac in 1989, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Kentucky, killing nine. Prozac-maker Eli Lilly later settled a lawsuit brought by survivors.
    • Kurt Danysh, 18, shot his own father to death in 1996, a little more than two weeks after starting on Prozac. Danysh’s description of own his mental-emotional state at the time of the murder is chilling: “I didn’t realize I did it until after it was done,” Danysh said. “This might sound weird, but it felt like I had no control of what I was doing, like I was left there just holding a gun.”
    • John Hinckley, then age 25, took four Valium two hours before shooting and almost killing President Ronald Reagan in 1981. In the assassination attempt, Hinckley also wounded press secretary James Brady, Secret Service agent Timothy McCarthy and policeman Thomas Delahanty.
    • Andrea Yates, in one of the most heartrending crimes in modern history, drowned all five of her children – aged 7 years down to 6 months – in the family bathtub near Houston. Insisting inner voices commanded her to kill her children, she had become increasingly psychotic over the course of several years. At her 2006 murder re-trial (after a 2002 guilty verdict was overturned on appeal), Yates’ longtime friend Debbie Holmes testified: “She asked me if I thought Satan could read her mind and if I believed in demon possession.” And Dr. George Ringholz, after evaluating Yates for two days, recounted an experience she had after the birth of her first child: “What she described was feeling a presence … Satan … telling her to take a knife and stab her son Noah,” Ringholz said, adding that Yates’ delusion at the time of the bathtub murders was not only that she had to kill her children to save them, but that Satan had entered her and that she had to be executed in order to kill Satan.Yates had been taking the antidepressant Effexor. In November 2005, more than four years after Yates drowned her children, Effexor manufacturer Wyeth Pharmaceuticals quietly added “homicidal ideation” to the drug’s list of “rare adverse events.”
    • 12-year-old Christopher Pittman struggled in court to explain why he murdered his grandparents, who had provided the only love and stability he’d ever known in his turbulent life. “When I was lying in my bed that night,” he testified, “I couldn’t sleep because my voice in my head kept echoing through my mind telling me to kill them.” Christopher had been angry with his grandfather, who had disciplined him earlier that day for hurting another student during a fight on the school bus. So later that night, on Nov. 28, 2001, he shot both of his grandparents in the head with a .410 shotgun as they slept, then burned down their South Carolina home, where he had lived with them. “I got up, got the gun, and I went upstairs and I pulled the trigger,” he recalled. “Through the whole thing, it was like watching your favorite TV show. You know what is going to happen, but you can’t do anything to stop it.” Pittman’s lawyers would later argue that the boy had been a victim of “involuntary intoxication.” They said his 30-year sentence was excessive for someone his age and claimed the “heavy doses of anti-depressants he was taking sent his mind spinning out of control.” Doctors had him on Paxil and Zoloft just prior to the murders. Paxil’s known “adverse drug reactions” – according to the drug’s FDA-approved label – include “mania,” “insomnia,” “anxiety,” “agitation,” “confusion,” “amnesia,” “depression,” “paranoid reaction,” “psychosis,” “hostility,” “delirium,” “hallucinations,” “abnormal thinking,” “depersonalization” and “lack of emotion,” among others”.
    Further lists detailing the number of specific school shooters on psychotropic prescription drugs. It is important to note that these lists do not include the black-market narcotics that many homicidal criminals have been known to take.

    While many in mainstream media are quick to blame weapons themselves for the criminal actions of wicked individuals, the linkage between the consumption of psychotropic drugs and mass shootings in the United States is the real story. While all people on psychotropic drugs are not mass shooters, most mass shooters are on psychotropic drugs.

    Even when it comes to terrorism, drugs are frequently a crucial factor.

    SOURCE
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    "first of all that there was a connection to Philippines where an almost identical shooting took place 4 months prior to the Vegas massacre"

    Havent known of any massacre here in Ph that even come close to it. If the article is talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_S...Monte_massacre. there were only 5 death as compared to more than 50. and it was not a celebration or music festival, far from being identical. The suspects escape after the crime but were hunted and killed apparently by law enforcers or vigilantes or both.

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