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    Default NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    Hello folks. Help me out here. I just watched this fascinating 9 min video that was shared by ForbiddenknowledgeTV.

    From the mouths of NASA's own astronauts.

    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/nas...t-to-the-moon/



    We know of many other questionable aspects of the moon landings yet then we have all the info on the secret space program. What's going on here? Any chance the entire secret space program is a giant boondoggle to steal even more money? My best guess had always been that we had actually gone and they just lied about how and we were shown fake pics and video. This video made me wonder if the con job was a little bigger.

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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    This is an odd thing for an Astronaut to say even if its taken
    out of context.

    NASA Astronaut Don Pettit We Can't Go Back To The Moon.



    Published on 4 May 2017

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    There is a lot going on in the space industry with Elon Musks recent presentation
    about going to the Moon and Mars by 2022 .

    Elon Musk - Making Humanity A Multiplanetary Species

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-25lz8ecocQ

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1182682

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    Also the Russian Space agency has just signed a deal with NASA to create a Deep
    space gateway orbiting the moon. Even with all this Russia gate rubbish going on.

    Moon mission Russia and USA to build space station orbiting the moon.


    Published on 1 Oct 2017
    Russia and the US are teaming up for a project to build a space station orbiting the
    Moon. RT spoke to former International Space Station commander Leroy Chiao,
    who thinks the project will help the nations to improve their relations on Earth.

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    Also this vid was put up on RT..........Certainly looks odd.

    First time in the Universe: Spacewalk filmed in 360



    pub 3 Oct 2017
    This is the first-ever panoramic video shot in open space by the crew of the
    International Space Station. The 360 video was produced by RT in collaboration
    with the Russian space agency and leading spacecraft producer Energia.
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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    I posted these vids on another thread but think they are just as relevant here...

    We all remember the time as children that we realized for ourselves that we had been lied to about Santa Clause for example. A well meaning lie perhaps. But one perpetrated against us by everyone we knew, everyone we trusted, everyone we believed in. Perhaps like me you pretended to believe in Santa for a while after this realization, so that the toys and presents didn't stop coming!! Lol.

    I think as adults when we see the scale of the lies about us, perpetrated by those we trusted, anything and everything could then be perceived as a lie. In this way even the stars above us and the ground beneath our feet could theoretically be a con too. I don't believe in the flat earth theory, but I do think NASA is and has lied to us about a great many things, I just wonder why, to what end, for what purpose? A money pit is my best guess. Here's some interesting vids, not proof of anything, but food for thought none the less...x... N








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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    Meanwhile on the otherside of town...



    What about the premise that they did infact go to the Moon but just not as portrayed to the general public? (Allows for thread expansion too.)
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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    This is a thread with some good vids on which may need updating.

    My view is we did go to the moon with help from either the SSP or some one else.
    The NASA version is difficult to swallow....Stanley Kubrick's role is hard to ignore.

    Quote Richplanet - New evidence on Stanley Kubrick faking the Apollo Moon landing
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rick+moon+hoax

    RICHPLANET TV - Stanley Kubrick & The Moon Landings - 03/11/2015


    Published on 6 Nov 2015
    In previous shows Richard D. Hall has discussed the moon landings and the many
    problems with the official story. In this weeks show he looks in a bit more depth at
    the person who is often cited as being the film director of the hoaxed moon
    landings. Carl James has found out a considerable amount about Stanley Kubrick
    and reveals many pieces of circumstantial evidence which seem to point to
    Kubrick's possible involvement. This is a subject which mainstream media never
    represents correctly and even uses shills in attempts to ridicule moon hoax
    researchers, whose best evidence is usually ignored. Carl James is the author
    of "Science Fiction and the Hidden Global Agenda", which examines the role of
    science fiction in the shaping of public perception.
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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    i wonder what genius thought up "lying" to everyone in the world. Oh, more money to continue reverse engineering of craft and space station.
    Got it. they can't be trusted to tell all even if and when we enter space. They will not be allowed. They are the reason we are quarantined now. This isn't their first planet to strip resources and enslave races of civilizations.
    I'm just glad those who quarantined them here, are coming to get them out of here. Just grateful.

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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    Lol, NASA - video with appropriate uncontrollable laughter.

    The Two Most Hilarious Things NASA Has Ever Said
    Melissa Dykes

    http://truthstreammedia.com/2017/08/...asa-ever-said/


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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    I just have to chuckle when I think of the lyrics of the rock group REM's song "Man on the Moon":

    "if you think they put a man on the moon,

    if you think there's nothing up their sleeve then nothing's cool"

    Larry :-)

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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    We say we don't believe NASA... yet prompt to believe any so called "whistleblower..." And it is one thing to be a whistleblower and b.s. people... And another thing to just be a b.s.er with internet access!
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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    Quote We say we don't believe NASA... yet prompt to believe any so
    called "whistleblower..." And it is one thing to be a whistleblower and b.s. people...
    And another thing to just be a b.s.er with internet access!
    Is there a question in there Yuki ? or just a observation and you do believe they put
    a man on the moon per the NASA programme . Which I do just not the way we
    have been told....but you would have to be open that there was Secret Space
    programme set up after Roswell and the possibility of help from off planet beings.
    Which there are many threads and material from top alternate researchers.....

    Mark McCandlish: "Corporations Have Back Engineered ET Technology To Control The World!"
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rol-The-World-

    A post from a current thread....
    Gary McKinnon 1 OF 4 - Non-Terrestrial Officers , Donna Hare
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1183861


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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    Quote Posted by mpennery (here)

    We know of many other questionable aspects of the moon landings yet then we have all the info on the secret space program. What's going on here? Any chance the entire secret space program is a giant boondoggle to steal even more money? My best guess had always been that we had actually gone and they just lied about how and we were shown fake pics and video. This video made me wonder if the con job was a little bigger.

    Matt
    No, I don't think the con job is bigger. I think your ideas are correct.

    One thing I will add though is the Russians know the truth, and yet they don't say anything. I think all world leaders are really playing the same game, they only act like they don't like each other. If they don't play along they are removed. I think that from time to time. Not sure if it is really true.

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    What did NASA claim they found in an old McDonalds hamburger store? Anyone remember that odd story? Sorry if I missed it above.
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    Capitol Steps - Blame it on the Boss of NASA
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    Quote What did NASA claim they found in an old McDonalds hamburger store?
    Anyone remember that odd story? Sorry if I missed it above.
    I can remember the story about material being found , but typed in a couple
    of things in U'tube but nothing came up I recognised......

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    Quote One thing I will add though is the Russians know the truth,
    Russia , China and others must know if the US got to the moon or not.
    Then that ties into whether the SSP involves other countries and is part
    of the silence by other space agencies....


    There was an RT article a couple years ago which is interesting , though as far as
    I can tell they have not done it yet.

    Micro-satellite to inspect if Americans did land on Moon



    Published on 11 Oct 2015
    Russian engineers, tired of debating whether the US really landed on the moon,
    have decided to build a satellite to receive footage from there.

    RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air
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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    Why the Big Lie?

    Let's come back down to earth for a moment, shall we?

    During the early days of the Cold War, the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. were in a Space Race in which the U.S.S.R. was winning.

    In 1957 the U.S.S.R. successfully launched Sputnik 1, the first artificial Earth satellite



    And the U.S. were just 'beside themselves'. So . . .

    In 1958 the U.S. established NASA with a distinctly civilian (rather than military) orientation.

    In other words, NASA was created as the official (propaganda) mouthpiece between the U.S. Guv'ment and the civilian public, which it still faithfully serves as to this day.

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    Now, moving forward to the Moon Landing Hoax:

    Have you ever watched the movie Interstellar?

    This clip will explain very well "Why The Big Lie":



    And always remember Occam's Razor:

    "The simplest explanation is usually the correct one."



    Of course "The Big Lie" does not mean we did not:

    "Go to the moon and do the other things"



    It just means they don't want the world to know that we had a little help
    Eisenhower's 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials: The Fiftieth Anniversary of First Contact?

    This paper explores the evidence that the First Contact meeting had occurred with extraterrestrials with a distinctive 'Nordic' appearance, the likelihood of an agreement having been spurned with this 'Nordic race', the start of a series of meetings that led to a treaty eventually being signed with a different extraterrestrial race dubbed the 'Greys', and the motivations of the different extraterrestrial races involved in these treaty discussions.

    I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    I know that there is fairly convincing evidence that some of the moon video footage was faked. However, there is widely, and independently corroborated research that clearly confirms that the moon landings did indeed occur, as per the following link.

    For instance, there is the ongoing use of the LRRR's. The detection on Earth of reflections from laser ranging retro-reflectors (LRRRs, or mirrors used as targets for Earth-based tracking lasers) on Lunar Laser Ranging experiments left on the Moon is evidence of landings. The NASA-independent Observatoire de la Côte d'Azur, McDonald, Apache Point, and Haleakalā observatories regularly use the Apollo LRRR. Lick Observatory attempted to detect from Apollo 11's retroreflector while Armstrong and Aldrin were still on the Moon but did not succeed until August 1, 1969. The Apollo 14 astronauts deployed a retroreflector on February 5, 1971, and McDonald Observatory detected it the same day. The Apollo 15 retroreflector was deployed on July 31, 1971, and was detected by McDonald Observatory within a few days.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thir..._Moon_landings

    The question then arises as to why nasa choosed to hire hollywood film producers to create fake moonscape footage? Considering some hearsay of an overheard Neil Armstrong conversation, that there were aliens waiting for them on the moon, and nasa knew they were there in advance (see Sgt Woolf's disclosure testamony of him seeing pictures of structures on the back side of the moon in the mid-1960's), and didnt want the public to see this, so there is a logical explanation for the hollywood films.

    Look at how the moon landings proceeded, a progression that attests to its actual happening. If you were trying to pull off a moonlanding hoax, subject to all the potential errors and risks of being discovered, why would you go back there half dozen times, instead of just doing it once? Why would you bring back so many moonrocks that could be discovered to be fake? Why plant the LRRR's? Why have an aborted fake mission Apollo 13? All of these issues point to the fact that the moonlandings were NOT fake.

    Given that most of us understand that there is almost irrefutable evidence of the existence of the ssp (see Bill Uhouse's testimony of antigravity flight simulators (and working with greys), or gary mackinnon's hacks, or henry deacon's testimony on Project Camelot, or Mark McCandlish's work, or even some witnessing by members here on Avalon, or see Richard Dolan's research, etc.), why should it seem so incredible that the Apollo missions actually DID go to and land on the moon?

    You see, this whole 'fake moon landing' "controversy" causes a lot of churning in the alt-news/truther community. A lot of 'wheel spinning' on this topic is a lot of diversion from more relevant discussions/research, imho.
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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    The best evidence that we did NOT go to the moon is our history as a species. Everything we have ever undertook to accomplish has begun first in failure. Every experiment, every invention, every expedition, everything. We learn by our mistakes. We learn because of our mistakes.

    Not so with the moon landings, we made it there and drove about, planted our flag and flew back, no hic ups, first time.

    Not only that but we have not been able to repeat it in the forty five years of technological advances since. Not only that but China, arguably one of the most technologically advanced nations, has said last year it will take them a further ten years of adaptive R&D before they can go to the moon...

    Never-mind the rest of the evidence against it... N
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    Default Re: NASA seems to admit we never went to the moon

    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    I know that there is fairly convincing evidence that some of the moon video footage was faked. However, there is widely, and independently corroborated research that clearly confirms that the moon landings did indeed occur, as per the following link.

    For instance, there is the ongoing use of the LRRR's. The detection on Earth of reflections from laser ranging retro-reflectors (LRRRs, or mirrors used as targets for Earth-based tracking lasers) on Lunar Laser Ranging experiments left on the Moon is evidence of landings.
    ...
    I personally have never seen a laser being reflected off the moon, has anyone else?
    Just saying...I have no horse in this race.

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    Once again, in 1969 on the day of the launch of Apollo 11 at 4 pm in Barbados, I knew nothing about the launch of the Apollo until next day when the radio reported that the most powerful radio transmission ever on Earth had taken place. I was asleep as my BRAIN was grabbed by the horrible sensation of experiencing powerful G forces, as though I was in a rocket, lifting off from somewhere. I could hear what sounded like the Nasa Control Room with a great many voices at the same time. The voice of a man, probably on the craft, said, "This is a space ship." It was a horrifying experience for me. I felt that if the experience had not ended when it did, my brain would have exploded; I fought to stop the "dream." It was no dream. It was a telepathic transmission by what I discovered the next day was the launch of the Apollo Mission. I was obviously feeling what the Astronaut was feeling. Therefore, they must have gone by rocket ship of some sort. An anti-gravity ship would not produce G forces. Many years later at Government House I met Edgar Mitchell.

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    Not impressed with the title of this thread. Nasa didn't admit they never went to the moon... did they....

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