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    "You guys know what this represents?" Trump asked. "Maybe it's the calm before the storm. Could be the calm, the calm before the storm."

    "What storm Mr. President?" one reporter shouted. ISIS? North Korea? Iran?

    "You'll find out," the president said.

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    Trump, During Military Photo Shoot, Talks of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    Military.com
    6 Oct 2017

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump delivered a foreboding message Thursday night, telling reporters as he posed for photos with his senior military leaders that this might be "the calm before the storm."

    White House reporters were summoned suddenly Thursday evening and told the president had decided he wanted the press to document a dinner he was holding with the military leaders and their wives.

    Reporters were led hastily to the grand State Dining Room, where they walked into a scene of the president, his highest-ranking military aides and their wives posing for a group photo. The cameras clicked and they smiled. A joke was made about someone's face being tired. Live classical music played.

    Then, Trump gestured to the reporters in the room.

    "You guys know what this represents?" Trump asked. "Maybe it's the calm before the storm. Could be the calm, the calm before the storm."

    "What storm Mr. President?" one reporter shouted. ISIS? North Korea? Iran?

    "You'll find out," the president said.

    He also praised those assembled for the photo, saying: "We have the world's great military people in this room, I will tell you that."

    Earlier in the evening, the president had lauded the group, including his defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and said they would be discussing the most pressing military issues facing the country, including North Korea and Iran.

    Trump said "tremendous progress" had been made with respect to the Islamic State group, adding, "I guess the media's going to be finding out about that over the next short period of time."

    He also denounced Iran, saying the country should not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons, and offered another stark warning to North Korea's Kim Jong Un.

    "We cannot allow this dictatorship to threaten our nation or allies with unimaginable loss of life," he said, vowing to "do what we must do to prevent that from happening and it will be done, if necessary. Believe me."

    He also said that, moving forward, he expects those in the room to provide him with "a broad range of military options, when needed, at a much faster pace."

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    I saw this earlier and there is plenty of speculation the Iran deal seems favourite ,
    but N. Korea or something from left field may be announced. ' Moron' gate is
    popular Rex Tillerson resigning ,by some in the mainstream



    Trump: This represents calm before the storm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU62DZ_Xf0M
    Published on 6 Oct 2017
    President Donald Trump called a White House dinner with
    top military commanders, "the calm before the storm."
    When a reporter asked what he meant, Trump replied, "You'll see."

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    Donald Trump Says Cryptically 'It's The Calm Before The
    Storm' | The Last Word | MSNBC
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brK0HIEvvYI
    Published on 5 Oct 2017
    Amid an NBC News report Donald Trump was furious when
    he heard Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called him a "moron,"
    the president made cryptic comments after a meeting with
    military generals. Josh Earnest, Ron Klain and Jennifer Rubin
    join Lawrence O'Donnell.

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    President Trump's mysterious "calm before the storm" comments


    Published on 6 Oct 2017
    During a dinner with military leaders and their wives Thursday night, President
    Trump said this is "the calm before the storm." CBS News White House and senior
    foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Brennan joined CBSN with more of the
    President's mysterious comments and his upcoming decision on whether to
    decertify the Iran nuclear deal.

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    What did Trump mean with 'calm before the storm' comments?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpcgBAja0gY
    Published on 6 Oct 2017
    John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., on President
    Trump's 'calm before the storm' comments and the protests in
    Catalonia, Spain
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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    The Press pool tried to find out what the President meant , Sarah deflected the questions
    but it sounds like Iran or North Korea....


    Sarah Sanders WH Press Briefing on "Calm Before the Storm", Iran Deal, North Korea 10/6/17



    Published on 6 Oct 2017
    Sarah Sanders holds the White House Press Briefing and takes questions on the meaning
    of President Trump's "calm before the storm" comment, the Iran deal, North Korea, and more

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    These people are just plain crazy. They have no idea how to deal with people unlike themselves. Unlike themselves, I mean as people that are able to think rationally. The egotistic way they carry themselves is obvious to to all but a minority of folks. They are on a strict schedule of control of everything, that critical, adult understanding no longer is available for them to comprehend. Weird chit. These people were actually elected, or appointed their positions. Unbelievable. mind boggling.

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    What is tough talk? tough talk is when a real tough guy dont talk at all. The most dangerous ones the ones who means business are the ones who seldom talk or never talk at all. Yeah lets hit them with words and rain them with saliva.

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    It's the "you'll find out" bit that concerns me, ie a certainty? - could be anything, but whatever it is, doesn't sound good!

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    Gen Mattis and others recommended keeping the deal in front of a senate
    arms service committee a few days ago. But Trump did say that he would
    scrap the deal during his election campaign.


    Will Trump scrap Iran nuclear deal?



    Published on 6 Oct 2017
    President Donald Trump warned media on Thursday that they were witnessing
    the “calm before the storm.” This comes in the midst of hints that the Iran
    nuclear deal may be “de-certified.” Trump faces an October 15th deadline to
    come to a decision about the future of the Iran deal. RT America’s Simone
    Del Rosario reports.

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    US portrays Iran is main hegemonic power bringing disorder in the Middle East

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfr8YJrpvkY
    Published on 6 Oct 2017
    Gareth Porter, investigative journalist & national security policy analyst, tells RT
    Iran never had a goal to get nuclear weapons. From the 1980s, Iran participated
    in agreements to avoid weapons of mass destruction – that’s their fundamental
    policy. He talks about US picturing Iran as a main power bringing disorder in
    the Middle East.

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    US focus on N. Korea in line w/ wider Pacific strategy



    Published on 6 Oct 2017


    The US has nearly 800 military bases spread across more than 70 countries.
    At the end of the Cold War, Neo-Cons in the Pentagon drew up a new global
    strategy, the “pivot to the Pacific.” But US officials are still sketchy on the
    details of how to implement this plan. RT America’s Joseph Ricci has more.

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    What does Iran think about Donald Trumps posturing?... "The US is a laughing stock... America has lost, it just needs to come to terms with it". No wonder the neocons are now calling Iran the most destabilising factor in the Middle East when Iranians are openly ridiculing US leadership.

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    https://journal-neo.org/2017/10/05/t...-lost-to-iran/

    Trump’s America is Not Just Losing, it has Already Lost to Iran
    Article by Catherine Shakdam, Director of Programs of the Shafaqna Institute for Middle Eastern Studies and a political analyst specializing in radical movements

    “Authority and authoritarian powers seek to collapse the values, the systems, and alliances that prevented conflict and tilted the world toward freedom since World War II.” clamored one boastful US President Donald Trump as he took the floor of the UN General Assembly.

    While many will disagree as to which, or better yet, whose powers stand guilty as charged, Mr Trump does in fact make a point … he would of course need to point the finger at his own navel for accuracy, but for once few will disagree with his statement.

    Others, braver than me perhaps could also remark that not much has changed since WWII, except maybe our collective ability to slap a nice veneer of democratic legitimacy over the most obscene of human rights violations – America’s counter-terrorism campaign comes to mind … but that discussion I’d like to reserve for some other time.

    Today I’d like to delve into America’s fear, and by America I mean America’s deep-state – those powers that be, which have pulled and tugged at those strings, and thus manifested those realities we have learnt to contend with.

    Could it be that America sung its last song through President Trump. I would encourage readers to see beyond the bravado and political posing Mr Trump demonstrated this September to read fear and insecurity in the narrative Washington proposed the world.

    Consumed by its binary: “You are either with us, or you against us,” type of set up, the US has learnt to read world dynamics through the lense of war, no longer capable to wield diplomatic restraint so powerful its hegemonic greed has become.

    America is a dying empire – a star so swollen by its own importance that it will soon collapse upon its centre and die a withering mess before a court of its peers. Only recently Professor Mohammad Marandi of the Tehran University stated that the US had become a “laughing stock” – an embarrassment not just to its people but all those who mapped their political principles upon that of so-called democratic America.

    Beyond the farce that is President Donald Trump we are in fact witnessing the unravelling of a capitalist complex which basis is rooted in neo-imperialism – the last stage Lenin posited once of unfettered capitalism.

    If Washington and by that I mean the war complex that, from behind, spins America’s wheel, continues to vehemently, if not clumsily, present Iran as the grand enemy of humanity, so that it could better distract communities from the instability it is itself sowing, its leadership’s credibility has reduced to such a trickle that it is fast losing traction.

    A true product of its environment President Trump is together a reflection and a mirror to what the United States has become under the policies its leadership has formulated.

    Let us remember that Mr Trump stands an elected state official. He was no more an accident than former President George W. Bush was – and we all know how much the world enjoyed ridiculing him for his love affair with gulf.

    For the Donald, Twitter appears to be a better pastime … I would dare say that America has been reduced not to a punchline but 140 sad characters.

    Very much like a Ponzy scheme would, Washington needs forever more enemies and threats to resist against, to justify its existence. And very much like any Ponzy scheme would, survival is by definition limited in time … in this particular case the term geography would be better suited since it is territorial hegemony the US craves.

    Maybe there lies America’s inherent fault. It is ultimately its hunger for others’ sovereignty that could soon see disappear its own. Interestingly enough America has reproached, or rather, projected its own hunger onto that of others – those infamous others, it views as existential threats. On that front the list has grown ever larger and ever more nonsensical: Iran, Venezuela, Russia, Cuba, Syria, Libya …

    For all the lead that Washington’s neocons have thrown at the Greater Middle East so that Iran’s resistance could be drowned out of existence, and all manners of reproach against western imperialism silenced, it has in fact managed to empower those it wanted to weaken.

    How so you may ask?

    I would say that America’s main sin has been to assume that Iran would play by its rules, according to its paradigm. Indeed it has not! Rather than engage Washington and its belligerence, Tehran has exerted patience and political resolve while closely holding on to its principle of sovereign independence.

    I would argue that it is Iran’s resilience which ultimately has served as a catalyst and thus inspired other nations to emulate.

    The one constant in a region wracked by instability, Iran’s gravitational pull was made strong by its propensity to accompany nations in their national ambitions rather than impose tutelage … and so began America’s descent into the gutters of History.

    But America is not one to quietly go into the night. Indeed, the dying empire needs now to hold on to the pretense that it was once – the idea that it was once a great nation under God!

    And so the military complex that is the American empire has sent his president to quack a grand quack so that maybe talks of imminent wars could somehow revive Washington’s standing on the international scene. It is relevance the US is desperately reaching for: geopolitical and economic relevance in the midst of a great geopolitical contraction and financial depression.

    Unburdened by America’s web Iran quite literally out-waited the “Great Satan” … if not to say outsmarted!

    America has lost … it just need to come to terms with it.
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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    Trump is an pedofile and an ASSET.
    THINK like THEM, because.... they can think like you!

    Never think that bad pedofiles are anything but killing themselves and EVEN the WORLD if they get a chance...

    TRUMP is an owned slave and we ALL know this!!

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    Quote Posted by Tbone500 (here)
    Trump is an pedofile and an ASSET.
    THINK like THEM, because.... they can think like you!

    Never think that bad pedofiles are anything but killing themselves and EVEN the WORLD if they get a chance...

    TRUMP is an owned slave and we ALL know this!!
    I didn't start this thread for people to Trash-Talk Trump.

    Specifically speaking, I don't care what people think of Trump, Obama, Clinton, or Mickey Mouse.

    Simply put, start your own thread. Or better yet, take it to Facebook.

    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    Some house-cleaning last night..... I am also concerned about what may be in the offing soon and appreciate this thread about these statements.
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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    I wrote this on the Vegas shooter thread, a couple days ago. Nothing's yet caused me yet to lower my alert status.

    I do suspect Trump may be fully aware of what I speculated on below.

    ~~~
    A few noted thoughts. A cover-up, for sure, and all kinds of aspects to this not being reported, or being denied by, the mainstream media.

    Nothing surprising there — except that the big picture of what really happened is way too obvious not to be quickly understood by large numbers of people. Too many witnesses, too much video, too many anomalies, too many good unanswered questions.

    Whoever orchestrated this would have been smart enough to know that's exactly how it would all play out soon after the incident.

    I've not yet heard any commentators or analysts make that observation.

    One potential result, that could well be desired and planned, is a divided nation. Further major incidents over the next couple of months, similarly shocking, confusing, controversial and deliberately misreported, might divide it more.

    Then the coup de grâce would be taking out Trump, either physically or functionally. That would ignite the desired civil war.

    If I'm anywhere near right, which I hope I'm not — and we may know soon enough — what we've seen in Las Vegas might just be the start of a well thought out strategic campaign that so far hasn't been careless or misplanned in any tiny way.

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    Although Iran is a hot topic , so is North Korea and the reported 'spat'
    with Rex Tillerson , plus other tensions with the media and bills trying to
    pass congress, and Russia gate coming to a head, though I do not think
    he was referring to the latter.There are also daily clashes with the
    mainstream media , calls for impeachment , comments on his mental
    health , veiled death threats and more.

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    Eric Shawn reports: New North Korea missile threat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6uUM6BIauw
    Published on 8 Oct 2017
    Amb. John Bolton on facing Kim Jong Un's regime

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    North Korea ‘Decoders’ Are Sounding Alarms | Moving Upstream



    Published on 5 Oct 2017
    North Korea boasts about its nuclear weapons program by releasing photos
    and videos of its missiles. But in them are tiny clues to their true capability.
    A team of U.S. analysts, working outside the government, shows how they
    decode these images to determine when North Korea is bluffing – and when
    it is showing true power.


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    Trump offers vague threat against North Korea
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxOwymYMUhU
    Published on 8 Oct 2017
    The president tweeted that North Korea has made "fools" of the U.S. and that
    "only one thing will work!"

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    Donald Trump on North Korea: Only one thing will work
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge0fLnC_WNc
    Published on 7 Oct 2017
    CNN's Kaitlan Collins discusses what could be behind President Donald Trump's
    "cryptic tweet" on North Korea.
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    Roger Stone: Trump Is Planning To Strike North Korea! Strategic Patience Is Over

    Rogers comes on aprox 5 mins in and gets to North Korea 14mins in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U-aVWj2GNA

    Published on 8 Oct 2017
    Roger Stone stops by and reveals to Alex Jones the next phase for Trump on
    North Korea and how Rex Tillerson has seen his last days as Secretary of State!
    http://stonezone.com/
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    UHM !... Henry still looking for a 'New World Order'....Is Trump the latest in a long
    line of Presidents to be ultimately controlled ?

    "I'm here at a moment when the opportunity to build a constructive peaceful world
    order is very great "

    President Trump Meets with Dr. Henry Kissinger



    Published on 10 Oct 2017
    The White House

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    Henry Kissinger: "Obama will create a New World Order"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1r-3q9PXoM

    Henry Kissinger says "Obama's main task will be to develop a New World Order"
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    UHM !

    President Trump Meets with Dr. Henry Kissinger



    Published on 10 Oct 2017
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    Looks like they are oiling up the war machine ...

    Also Trump is doing Merkel's 'upside down pyramid' hand signal a lot in that video.

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    Trump addresses strategy on Iran nuclear deal (full speech)


    Published on 13 Oct 2017
    President Trump unveils the United States' new strategy on the Iran nuclear deal.

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    President Trump unveils the United States' new strategy on the Iran nuclear deal.
    So ... Trump has come to Washington to drain the swamp has he?

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    The rise of Trump is definitely an 'iceberg' situation, he quite clearly is a representative character; he is not an individual political force. I am not seeking to totally define the situation, because this is impossible beyond a superficial level, but we are witnessing some unprecedented stuff.
    There is obviously a major polarization between the established orders and the military/industrial complex in America. It is just not clear yet exactly who Trump genuinely works for, but his obvious support of the Saudis, and Israel indicates it isn't any kind of 'Alternative'.
    Many who selected Trump to avert the war mongering of Clinton (and who she works on behalf) have been sadly deceived. Calm before the storm has an ominous ring to it, tough-guy posturing or not. Hang on to your faith guys, we are in for some turbulent flying.

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    Default Re: Trump Talks Of 'Calm Before the Storm'

    New article out on New Eastern Outlook.

    https://journal-neo.org/2017/10/14/m...-new-alliance/

    Synopsis: Unlikely they'll be direct war between between Iran and US (it's just a too risky proposition), what we'll most likely see is further push for the creation of a Kurdish state, armed and trained by Israel/US vested interests, to keep the Middle East in perpetual war. End goal of such an operation? To destabilise the area to prevent oil rich countries from capitalising on their oil wealth and oil export infrastructure, while increasing profits for the arms industry by manufacturing needless conflict.

    No more turbulence than usual on an already destabilised and bumpy route.

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