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    Hello Everyone!

    I'm new here, and hope to become better acquainted with the forum soon. Anyway, I am hoping to start a project which will combine two of my biggest interests: trading and consciousness. I've always been interested in spirituality and the powers of the mind. Recently I've explored this interest more deeply in my personal life as well as by reaching out to different communities such as this one. I've also been trading and investing for a few years now. These two interests have always occupied different places in my mind, until I was looking into remote viewing and ran across a presentation about remote viewing the stock market. Anyway, I have some ideas about how to implement viewing and intuition into trading and investing, and I'm looking for people who would be willing to participate. I would be looking for people who are experienced at viewing or beginners. Also, no it's not necessary to have any experience with the markets. Just an open mind. Please let me know if you'd be interested in participating. Or if you know anybody that would. I'd love to put a group of viewers together so we can test some ideas Thanks!

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    Hi jhudd, a warm welcome to you.

    Noting that simply viewing future events can alter them, a superb tool for certain endeavours but slippery when it comes to predicting things like stocks. When it comes to experimenting with consciousness like this, think about effects on the quantum level and how observing is an act of participation in how the waves collapse.
    Never give up on your silly, silly dreams.

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    Yes. But be careful with the ethics of it all, as well. They're kind of subtle. And not everyone may agree.

    I knew someone once, many years ago, when I spent a lot of time in Europe, who was VERY highly gifted.

    He twice wrote down all the winning German lottery numbers — but never bought a ticket. His view was that with the abilities he knew he had, it would be a form of cheating. He devoted his life instead to helping other people with their spiritual development.

    Kudos. That really was the action (or non-action! ) of a Master. There was zero ego about it, as well, and barely anyone close to him knew about the lottery ticket story at all. I actually only first heard about it from his partner, because he never spoke about it publicly.

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    Interesting comments Bill and Judd. Some highly developed beings on the spiritual path will tell us that the universe will provide exactly precisely what we need based on our own personal belief system (in fact we chose). Others will tell us that it is the intention that counts and that helping others makes all the difference.

    Therefore, judd, what is your intention? Just for fun? Or to have a plan to help? If it is the latter, why not then work on the help plan and see what the universe will provide?

    Using psychic abilities to gain for oneself is a treaterous path, it is sometimes called black magic or dark side powers or yet illuminatí’s temptations sowed in us.

    Personnally I would do exactly like Bill’s friend.
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    Personally I would do exactly like Bill’s friend.
    A cautionary tale: Sean David Morton. He thought he could predict ForEx markets, was highly arrogant about it, and (at first!) was bringing his clients and friends quite a lot of money. He really was.

    But (to shorten the very very long story) it all turned into a mega-disaster for everyone — including him and his compliant wife. They are both now in prison.

    Somehow, a complex karmic entanglement was at work. Sean, the self-professed psychic, never once saw that.

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    Personally I would do exactly like Bill’s friend.
    A cautionary tale: Sean David Morton. He thought he could predict ForEx markets, was highly arrogant about it, and (at first!) was bringing his clients and friends quite a lot of money. He really was.

    But (to shorten the very very long story) it all turned into a mega-disaster for everyone — including him and his compliant wife. They are both now in prison.

    Somehow, a complex karmic entanglement was at work. Sean, the self-professed psychic, never once saw that.
    What would the difference between using psychic power to predict the markets or specialised knowledge like statistics, economics, computing and geopolitics? If I one uses the latter and one the former former, there is still a group out there who is disadvantaged.

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    Personally I would do exactly like Bill’s friend.
    A cautionary tale: Sean David Morton. He thought he could predict ForEx markets, was highly arrogant about it, and (at first!) was bringing his clients and friends quite a lot of money. He really was.

    But (to shorten the very very long story) it all turned into a mega-disaster for everyone — including him and his compliant wife. They are both now in prison.

    Somehow, a complex karmic entanglement was at work. Sean, the self-professed psychic, never once saw that.
    What would the difference between using psychic power to predict the markets or specialised knowledge like statistics, economics, computing and geopolitics? If I one uses the latter and one the former former, there is still a group out there who is disadvantaged.
    That's a very good question!

    I truly don't know the answer for sure, but I suspect that with many people — maybe not all! — when it comes to using genuinely spiritual abilities for self-gain, there's a kind of high-level self-limiter that kicks in and somehow ensures that a negative manifestation occurs that makes it all go wrong.

    That even happened with RV pioneer Russell Targ, as well, back in the early 70s when he was in the middle of his SRI research with Hal Puthoff, and started using the new-found skill to see if he could predict silver stock prices.

    It worked at first (as with Sean David Morton!) – but then after his initial success, he found he was unable to repeat it.

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    Personally I would do exactly like Bill’s friend.
    A cautionary tale: Sean David Morton. He thought he could predict ForEx markets, was highly arrogant about it, and (at first!) was bringing his clients and friends quite a lot of money. He really was.

    But (to shorten the very very long story) it all turned into a mega-disaster for everyone — including him and his compliant wife. They are both now in prison.

    Somehow, a complex karmic entanglement was at work. Sean, the self-professed psychic, never once saw that.
    What would the difference between using psychic power to predict the markets or specialised knowledge like statistics, economics, computing and geopolitics? If I one uses the latter and one the former former, there is still a group out there who is disadvantaged.
    That's a very good question!

    I truly don't know the answer for sure, but I suspect that with many people — maybe not all! — when it comes to using genuinely spiritual abilities for self-gain, there's a kind of high-level self-limiter that kicks in and somehow ensures that a negative manifestation occurs that makes it all go wrong.

    That even happened with RV pioneer Russell Targ, as well, back in the early 70s when he was in the middle of his SRI research with Hal Puthoff, and started using the new-found skill to see if he could predict silver stock prices.

    It worked at first (as with Sean David Morton!) – but then after his initial success, he found he was unable to repeat it.
    Hello Chris and Bill ~

    It's such an interesting topic, isn't it? It all appears to be same games inside the simulation MATRIX (Artificial hologram of the virtual kind our world is immersed with), a manipulation of energy done as magic to perpetuate the polarity/dual flow of the virtual construct overlayed over the more REAL and Genuine structure.. when going outside such tug of war of 'psychic talents', there is AWARENESS that in simple is an OBSERVER and by that injects itself as quantum.

    The difference between Psychic power and Awareness/consciousness is that the first is programmed, thus limited, the other is not limited in space and time, it is spacious and thus infinite - the representation of the 'all there is'.

    Given that, anytime where we have not worked to remove the construct and collide with our true real spirit connected to the flow of creation itself (source), which is the essence of the non-dual, then we tend to manifest from the virtual structure, and it is bound to encounter that 'limited kick in' of negative creation as the imitator.

    Many Blessings ~

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by chris_walker (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Personally I would do exactly like Bill’s friend.
    A cautionary tale: Sean David Morton. He thought he could predict ForEx markets, was highly arrogant about it, and (at first!) was bringing his clients and friends quite a lot of money. He really was.

    But (to shorten the very very long story) it all turned into a mega-disaster for everyone — including him and his compliant wife. They are both now in prison.

    Somehow, a complex karmic entanglement was at work. Sean, the self-professed psychic, never once saw that.
    What would the difference between using psychic power to predict the markets or specialised knowledge like statistics, economics, computing and geopolitics? If I one uses the latter and one the former former, there is still a group out there who is disadvantaged.
    That's a very good question!

    I truly don't know the answer for sure, but I suspect that with many people — maybe not all! — when it comes to using genuinely spiritual abilities for self-gain, there's a kind of high-level self-limiter that kicks in and somehow ensures that a negative manifestation occurs that makes it all go wrong.

    That even happened with RV pioneer Russell Targ, as well, back in the early 70s when he was in the middle of his SRI research with Hal Puthoff, and started using the new-found skill to see if he could predict silver stock prices.

    It worked at first (as with Sean David Morton!) – but then after his initial success, he found he was unable to repeat it.
    I think looking into the future is really looking into a probable future and that everything that happens is not written in stone, hence the name of this RV training site - https://probablefuture.com/about/

    I think also, the closer you are in time to the future event, the higher the accuracy of your remote viewing a future outcome.

    Some people would say your are looking at a parallel universe where many different outcomes occur and in one (or more) of these universes you win the lottery based on your RVing the numbers.

    At any rate, there are people out there who are successful at the markets based on "gut feeling". To me, this is just a form of psychic power, like the so called "placebo effect", which is really psychic healing when you really look at it.

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    Fascinating topic indeed, and one that i've thought about many times over the years.

    I'm pretty ceratain that the fluctuations of the stock markets, or the lottery results, can be predicted, or 'seen', through various means, whether it be RV, dowsing, dreaming, 'black magic', or whatever mnethod one chooses to use. I've considered it many times but have never actually attempted it.

    My (main) reason for wanting to try this has always been along the lines of 'if I can predict the results of say, the lottery, and then I win, this will enable me to do something good for humanity with my winnings (in my case, buy lots of fertile land and give out free plots to groups of people who would live on it sustainably, and with a deep, profound and spiritual connection with Mother Earth. Living symbiotically with nature.

    Sounds ideal, eh?

    This is where my moral quandries have always kicked in.

    The stock markets and the lottery are both tools to prop up the capatilist system (the former being the ability to make money out of money for the sake of making more money, and the latter just fills the coffers of the lotterey foundation, or whatever it's called).

    The stock markets cater for those who already have the means to invest meaningfully (are loaded already) and with potentially astronomical profit making results. This is clearly not a level playing field. One could even say it's a system rigged to keep the rich getting richer.

    The lottery to me seems to be a thing based on fear and hope, and that means those with very little income are playing out of desperation to get out of their poverty trap. And hope is nothing but a means of handing over your power, your agency, to an external source, meaning you are NOT owning your own reality.

    My thinking has been - well what if I use one of the above teqniques to make a reasonable fortune (using the dark side!), but with the intent then of creating good in the world? But by even playing these systems we are feeding the beast, so to speak. The very beast that is desroying the abilty of life on Earth to flourish.

    So my question is: Is it morally sound to take advantage of, and make gains from, an inherently destructive system, if you're intentions with regards to the bigger picture, are inherently sound, and coming from a place of compassion, harmony and creativity?

    The Jury is still out for me on this one (although I do lean towards the idea that even good intentions implemeted through nefarious means will mostly probably lead to tears somewhere down the line (karmic feedback loop).

    Tis one hell of a chin scratcher!
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    RICHARD ALAN MILLER spoke once how he was able to manifest $50,000.

    He really did. However he never repeated the experiment. Why, because it involved a little of the dark arts.

    He was hit by a truck and won $50,000 in compensation. So karma does really come into play here.

    I am a forex trader. But sorry I am not interested in this venture. But I wish you all the best.

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    Funny, just now on another forum on a topic about someone being bored with life, the following link is posted. I think this is called synchronicity.
    How to Win the Lottery
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM8R...ature=youtu.be

    I think the lottery/gambling and the stock/forex markets are different. Lottery/gambling takes money from many people and transfers it to a few and therefore using psychic powers for that is not good. The stock/forex markets serve a purpose in which people fund enterprises which require capital investment or wish to mitigate currency fluctuations and therefore they require liquidity. That doesn't sound as bad as gambling, although there are people who use it as such.

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    Tom camball: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...1hT6M7qa60c7MJ
    Here's a link to Tom cambell in Calgary.in this last of three two hour videos Tom gives simple and effective techniques in remote healing,remote viewing of places and lastly remote viewing of objects.
    The first half hour for those who want to get straight to the how is it done .recommended that you get a pencil and paper ready and take the test.
    I can highly recommend watching all six hours if you have any interest in quantum physics meets spiritual to combine into a metaphysics paradigm .
    I took the test and did well in remote healing terrible in locations and excellent in objects.
    The part that gets me in remote viewing as that I drew an item from a box accurately ,from a video several years old when the box no longer holds the object inside. Am I reading Tom's mind or linking into an arkashic record?

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    The part that gets me in remote viewing as that I drew an item from a box accurately, from a video several years old when the box no longer holds the object inside. Am I reading Tom's mind or linking into an akashic record?
    Thanks for that samildamach. You've just highlighted another problem I've heard of when trying to predict events - the timing. You might get to see the lottery numbers but how can you be sure that they're next week's, next year's or next decade's numbers or even last decade's numbers? You see, there'll always be an element of uncertainty when trying to get an upper hand in gambling.

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    Wow, thank you everyone for the thoughtful replies. I was approaching RV from the perspective that's it's just a normal human ability, and something that could give us an edge, along the lines of "following your gut" which I've thought about as allowing your subconscious to inform your decisions because it can process much more information than we can consciously. I never thought it would be 100% accurate or anything even close to that. I considered it another form of analysis that could help inform a strategy. And as far as karma goes, it's my personal belief that the markets aren't inherently an evil system and that since I have no malicious intentions I think it's ok.

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