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    Default Re: Deadly, unusual wildfires in California as well as worldwide

    Just met today for a breathtaking 3 hours discussion with very bright and courageous Dr Katherine Horton (Switzerland) of the Joint Investigation Team on Directed Energy Weapons. I will try to post more on this in the near future.

    Interview by Kerry Cassidy last July here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnAdhWU0hHo

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    New & 2nd video from inTruthbyGrace (who produced the 9/11 anomaly comparison video on the previous page - Bill's Post #73 - & LadyM's Post#2 earlier in the thread)

    Santa Rosa Fires: Observations & Military Lockdown of Abnormal Fire Zones

    Published on Oct 18, 2017
    The parts of Santa Rosa that burned "normally" are NOT on military lock down... the evidence that this was NOT a normal fire IS under military fence lock and guard... they say it is to prevent looters... but there's nothing left... you couldn't loot a splinter from these places.

    Does someone want this land for something?


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    And a third...

    Evidence of Military Grade EMF Accelerants Used in Sonoma Napa FIRES
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    Something turned these houses into in furnaces to allow for near complete combustion... the evidence of what we are seeing defies the laws of physics for an open air fire, I have ALREADY documented the wind speeds were marginal for the areas at the time the fires started. The fact that a tree is burning AS IF IT IS A FURNACE is noteworthy and should be of great concern to anyone educated prior to 1995 when physics and chemistry actually taught us what is possible with a mere open air burn vs a furnace. TOTAL combustion of material is NOT possible outside of a furnace, yet that is exactly the damage we are observing with temps reaching high enough values to MELT GLASS...


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    Having lost my house in a ridge fire in California well over 10 years ago, I will attest that these fires are indeed hot enough to melt glass, metals etc. There may not be anything nefarious going on here. Glass melts in a fire pit.

    However, I will say that the property may be caught up in a money grab. That part happens all the time after national disasters. People leave after being unable to rebuild due to insurance hang ups, big businesses buy up the properties cheap, then rent goes up, property goes up, and insurance goes up. Big money grab.
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    Radio interview with Elana Freeland (who authored books on Chemtrails, HAARP) on The Anthony Patch Show. Reiterates the original STAR WARs program & the newer cutting edge technology used in the "Space Fence".

    Directed Energy Weapons Over California with Elana Freeland

    Published on Oct 14, 2017
    Elana Freeland lays out the case for scalar wave directed energy weaponry having been employed igniting the fires in Santa Rosa, and elsewhere in California.


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    Thanks Kiwi, I will check out the video.

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    About that burning hollow tree... one can also argue that it turned into a chimney built out of dry wood instead of stone... so, that indeed turned it into a furnace/forge.

    The question that remains though: how did the fire start inside of it in the absence of a surrounding fire?
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    Quote Posted by Kristin (here)
    Having lost my house in a ridge fire in California well over 10 years ago, I will attest that these fires are indeed hot enough to melt glass, metals etc. There may not be anything nefarious going on here. Glass melts in a fire pit.

    However, I will say that the property may be caught up in a money grab. That part happens all the time after national disasters. People leave after being unable to rebuild due to insurance hang ups, big businesses buy up the properties cheap, then rent goes up, property goes up, and insurance goes up. Big money grab.
    But that's the trick, Kristin - plausible deniability. It's not just the melted glass we're seeing here. Let's go back to 9-11: IF similar "exotic technology" was used on the Twin Towers - and I'm convinced it was - that was 16 years ago. How can you be sure the fires you experienced were also not a result of the same or similar technology? (Rhetorical question )

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    Default Re: Deadly, unusual wildfires in California as well as worldwide

    I'm still certainly in the 'highly suspicious' camp for the nature and origin of these fires, but there is one other thing to possibly consider with regards the total devastation seen in the images. Not sure if mentioned already, but no firefighters were on site to tackle these fires. This could be at least relevant. Because with a normal house fire, an engine is called and puts it out usually long before the house disintegrates. Maybe that is why these don't look anything like 'normal' house fires. Not saying there's nothing to see here, on the contrary, but the fact that these houses were blazing for hours and hours completely unchecked is worth taking into consideration.

    But after seeing the pictures, I still don't understand how so many trees and plastic objects like waste-disposal units survived a supposed raging firestorm. Pretty inexplicable...
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    Default Re: Deadly, unusual wildfires in California as well as worldwide

    I think the video posted above (post #82) by KiwiElf -- which shows how a different but nearby fire burned, with while it burned and after it burned footage -- is worth checking out.

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    Here is a video (11 mins.) taken by a firefighting squad on October 9. They came up from Berkeley, about an hour's drive from Santa Rosa. They share footage of what they saw when they arrived and their reaction to it. As they come into the subdivision, they are stunned; they see nothing to save. They say it looks like a "bomb went off."


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    Glad more people are taking notice and connecting dots. Interesting comp incorporating Grace's video, movie excerpts and commentary.


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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    About that burning hollow tree... one can also argue that it turned into a chimney built out of dry wood instead of stone... so, that indeed turned it into a furnace/forge.

    The question that remains though: how did the fire start inside of it in the absence of a surrounding fire?
    One of the things you learn when living in California is that fires can burn beneath the ground and move for weeks and pop up in other places through following roots in dead trees, it's slow moving but it happens. I do agree with the "plausible deniability" issue as well. Just like 911, there may be a few things happening in tandem.

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    There are other cases of trees burning on the inside, including one in Ohio (ScienceAlert.com link below). The article states too that it is not uncommon and attributes it to lightning strikes.

    http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-th...the-inside-out

    Regarding the burning tree caught on video in No. California, I believe that authorities ruled out lightning. But here is some insight from a National Geographic feature on that specific tree fire.

    What they saw, explains Scott Stephens, professor of fire science at UC Berkeley, is the end result of a fungus called Armillaria, that rots the core of trees. The material that remains within is dry, and cavities allow fire to penetrate to the tree's interior. The tree can burn for days, until eventually it can't support its weight, and collapses. Falling trees are one of the biggest causes of fatalities in wildfires.

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    Coffey Park and other Santa Rosa neighborhoods are being allowed to return to their homes today.

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    One of the things you learn when living in California is that fires can burn beneath the ground and move for weeks and pop up in other places through following roots in dead trees, it's slow moving but it happens. I do agree with the "plausible deniability" issue as well. Just like 911, there may be a few things happening in tandem.
    Yes, fire can smoulder and travel along roots for years even before popping up.
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    Quote Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
    Coffey Park and other Santa Rosa neighborhoods are being allowed to return to their homes today.
    I'm sorry I didn't copy the whole article announcing that yesterday, which is not even a front page notice anymore or in the list of fire articles - you have to search your own history. The resident-only visits are from 10-5p today and they have removed a line that said they were going to force people to wear protective gear. It also states the area will be open to the public starting Sunday, but includes a threat to homeowners of disqualification of free cleanup if they 'handle the ash'.

    "Christine Sosho, county director of environmental health, urged people not to handle ash and debris because it... could disqualify residents from the government-funded cleanup."

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    And a third...

    Evidence of Military Grade EMF Accelerants Used in Sonoma Napa FIRES
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    Published on Oct 13, 2017

    Something turned these houses into in furnaces to allow for near complete combustion... the evidence of what we are seeing defies the laws of physics for an open air fire, I have ALREADY documented the wind speeds were marginal for the areas at the time the fires started. The fact that a tree is burning AS IF IT IS A FURNACE is noteworthy and should be of great concern to anyone educated prior to 1995 when physics and chemistry actually taught us what is possible with a mere open air burn vs a furnace. TOTAL combustion of material is NOT possible outside of a furnace, yet that is exactly the damage we are observing with temps reaching high enough values to MELT GLASS...

    Quote Because I understand how electromagnetic waves go through tree's and what they do...
    This lady DOES NOT know what she is talking about....


    You CAN Xray tree's, it's a common practice.

    Windsheilds on cars are tempered at around 700c, car fires with fuel, oil etc... they get pretty hot....

    Tree's burn from the inside ALL the time ( https://www.accuweather.com/en/video...xbbirfnfa-jwrv )Tree's bark is it's protection, it's fire resistant, the inside of tree's much less so.


    "military grade accelerants" is a collection of buzz words... an accelerant is just what ever you use to help a fire burn faster (o2, gasoline, dry wood, high powered EMF's.. these can all be accelerants).

    I'm not saying she's not onto something, but the examples are mostly crap.
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    Maybe tnere is no fire brick in california. Or no fire place in that area that has it. I saw no chimneys to suggest it is needed for heat. do not know the codes there though. can somebody let me know what they are? Thanks.

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    Quote Posted by bobme (here)
    Maybe tnere is no fire brick in california. Or no fire place in that area that has it. I saw no chimneys to suggest it is needed for heat. do not know the codes there though. can somebody let me know what they are? Thanks.
    In most of the bay area, fireplaces on any new building is not allowed due to air pollution concerns. Fireplaces even in older buildings are uncommon. The older the building, the more likely it is to have a fireplace. Most of Santa Rosa would be newer buildings (I think) as development in the north bay began to jump in the mid-nineties.
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