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    It seems I can check off all 11 of these.
    Number 7 strikes home more times than not. It's very difficult for me to be around negative people. I have to physically cross my feet at the ankles and clasp my hands so they don't drain all the energy right out of me.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I recently found some very helpful information about the dynamics of empath/narcissist relationships on the youtube channel Vital Mind Psychology here:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_P...lQPGMQQ/videos
    It was created by an Australian psychologist who gives very succinct, common sense information based on his own clinical experiences which make a lot of sense.
    I am an INFJ and have had some narcissists in my life who were puzzles to me--this information has explained so much to me; very good to know, even if after the fact.
    There are more videos as well on various subjects.
    Here are some of the talks for empaths, and about narcissists:

    The childhood origins of narcissism

    The emotion at the heart of narcissism

    Understanding the mind of a narcissist

    5 key strategies for dealing with narcissists

    Why the empath falls for the narcissist: The attachment and energy exchange system

    The hidden emotion that makes empaths vulnerable to narcissists

    5 key lifestyle changes empaths needs to make

    How the narcissist destroys your physical health

    5 destructive fantasies empaths have after the narcissist has left
    Gotcha !
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    The Empath In Recovery: Step 2 - Reduce Your Need To Please
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    Published on Mar 23, 2018
    Quote In this video I take a deeper look into the empath's strong tendency to be overly agreeable and people pleasing, a tendency that so often leads them to place themselves in precarious positions. I reveal the two underlying core fears that motivate the empath's need to please and how these inform which strategies work best for the empath.
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    Thats me. Yes, thats me

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    It can be quite a revelation when you see the whole profile and realize how it all fits.
    For me it was like a huge weight had been lifted off my back
    And I could finally stop feeling guilty for being self-protective, and stop having delusions of grandeur about my healing abilities and self-assigned messianic responsibility for healing the world.
    It was like a had a "kick me" sign on my back, attracting narcissists like flies.
    I just wish I had known years ago.
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    Onawah, me too. It seems I used to attract all the crazies. It's like they have a homing device for people like us. I finally realized in one fell swoop that it all comes down to acting in favor of your own destiny, instead of viewing yourself as being "mean" by saying no. I don't step on other's toes and I certainly don't use or manipulate. Not acting in accordance with the status quo even though it's hard, but when you know it's right thing to do for you is essential.
    "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what we share with someone when we are uncool." From the movie "Almost Famous""l "Let yourself stand cool and composed before a million universes." Walt Whitman

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    Wes Penre is back on the Avalon forum, and back on Youtube, with a series of videos about narcissism and his theory about its alien origins and purpose.
    See his latest post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1224949
    On Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0R...FfJ75juEEcwNog
    The new 12 part series focusing mainly on narcissism begins with an introduction here:
    Last edited by onawah; 28th May 2018 at 19:29.
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    I just found another good source of information about Narcissism, "Narcissism Survivor" at https://www.youtube.com/user/NarcissimSurvivor/videos
    This man is not a professional like the Vital Mind Psychology guy or a narcissist himself like Sam Vaknin, but is just a down to earth, common sense guy who speaks in simple language, from plenty of personal experience.
    Here is a selection of his videos:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZncETsH7lFA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1PMv6S2vRI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8VQR4-ZXjU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPpa-sNHnoY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ydBE5X6FZQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0XtOnd3I3w
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APQ_KQL7Skg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8OJRS9Lhxo
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    Great new video out today from Wes Penre

    Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1233720
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    Perhaps Empath fits but is also in some folks a masquerade of sorts for being an `emotional wreck`?
    I used to think this description must apply to myself but those `emotions` were nothing to do with any `wrecking`:

    In fact being hyper sensitive and feeling others emotions [especially when walking into to a busy or small crowded area] is usually a root cause:
    Meanwhile; one of the noticeable effects is self confusion; but only for a while:
    I used to think everyone else felt like myself and thought like myself but surely must be better at hiding it: What a shock I was in for:
    Sound familiar? Yip You too then:

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ID:	39368I normally avoid these types of tests like the plague and was incredibly surprised by the result. really confused me was the information about not being data driven. I often am. Or maybe I have had to be as a result of profession. Maybe an adaptation.

    So fellow Avalonians... what's my story with regard to my results? I am not sure I am seeing the correlation between this test and being an empath? But maybe an empath would already know that?? he he.

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    I have problem with the videos of this guy Onawah.

    He put much too much vocal emphasis at the wrong places in his speeches, repeats 2-3 times what he wants to emphasize, etc. Often, I have the feeling that those speaking about the narcissists are narcissists themselves.

    He also do quite a lot of grammatical generalisations, omissions or selections easily grasped by someone with NLP training (ex: ever ever, never never, etc). Not a good sign, but a sign of manipulative intent.

    Anyhow, thank for your intent by presenting us those videos Onawah.

    At least Vaknin is an honest narcissist (if that can exist lol)
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    I took this test a few years ago but did it again to see if my results were any different...still an INFP with the added T now (turbulent). In fact, intuitive and turbulent were both 83% so I suppose I’m turbulently intuitive. But then I’m a witch...and an empath so it is what it is...I find the results to be accurate...thanks for posting the link to the newer test!

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