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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and a “Very Bad Day” Scenario - for some elite swamp critters (Nov 2017 and beyond)

    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Seems to me its much more than a "low level document format" that you say it is.... It appears to be affiliated with AP website, as indicated at the bottom of the document below...

    ...
    MOS Web Page: http://www.enps.com/mosproto
    MOS Discussion/Collaboration http://support.enps.com/~mos

    SOURCE
    I cannot find the exact page that you copied in your reply.

    However, looking around the AP website https://www.ap.org/en-us/, and the MOS website http://mosprotocol.com/, and doing a little bit more searching, I see (on this MOS website page) that many companies participate in the development of the MOS protocol, including the AP:
    Quote Who Participates in the Development of MOS?

    Some of the best software and hardware vendors in the Broadcast Industry are participating in the development of the MOS Protocol. The first meeting of the group was held in Orlando, Florida during the late summer of 1998 at AP’s ENPS developer’s conference. Based on feedback from the hardware and software vendors present, and AP’s own desire for an open protocol, the fundamental concepts of MOS were released to the public domain.

    As of 2014 more than 300 companies participate in the development of MOS. Worldwide, they include some of the largest and most influential software and hardware vendors in the broadcast industry.
    Of course, the enps.com links that you provide in your long quoted matter:
    ...
    MOS Web Page: http://www.enps.com/mosproto
    MOS Discussion/Collaboration http://support.enps.com/~mos
    ...
    redirect to AP web pages. That is because ENPS is an AP project; it is not the MOS project itself. ENPS is the AP project that participates, along with over 300 other companies, in the development of the MOS protocol.

    The MOS protocol is a protocol for the exchange of media between computers. It is not some controlling agency; it is not a news agency; it is not the AP (Associated Press).

    The fact that the AP has a project (ENPS) that cooperates with many other companies in the development of the MOS protocol does not change this.

    Oh -- pray tell -- where did you copy that long text about MOS, ENPS and the AP from?
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    WHO IS PAYSEUR

    I remember the name from a David Icke book:

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    Quote THE WINDSOR-BUSH BLOODLINE (From www.davidicke.com )
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    I have recently been sent a series of genealogical charts which detail a bloodline and its off shoots that will be highly relevant to the readers of The Biggest Secret.A spokesman for Burkes Peerage, the bible of royal and aristocratic genealogy based in London, has said that every presidential election since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by the candidate with the most royal genes.
    I wonder of Donald Trump is also related to these royal bloodlines, and if so, is his blood "more royal" than the woman I'd rather not name against whom he ran.
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    Quote Posted by Baby Steps (here)
    WHO IS PAYSEUR
    This page purports to further describe Daniel Payseur and family: https://plus.google.com/+JohnWarden0...ts/PAxYABufN1u
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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and a “Very Bad Day” Scenario - for some elite swamp critters (Nov 2017 and beyond)

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    WHO IS PAYSEUR
    This page purports to further describe Daniel Payseur and family: https://plus.google.com/+JohnWarden0...ts/PAxYABufN1u
    Neon Revolt did a long post on these characters including Daniel Payseur. Not quite sure I believe all that is written, but its a good primer on the family.

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/08/1...r-springmeier/
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    Quote Posted by mgray (here)
    These characters including Daniel Payseur. Not quite sure I believe all that is written, but its a good primer on the family.

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/08/1...r-springmeier/
    Ah - good - thanks.

    I found a similarly "far out" history of Daniel Payseur and his descendants at http://bibliotecapleyades.lege.net/b...stsecret09.htm

    Aha - after poking around a bit more, I see that my link just above is Chapter 9 of an online OCR copy of David Icke's book "The Biggest Secret".

    Icke's book "The Biggest Secret" is also available in pdf format in our Avalon Library: http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Davi...t%20Secret.pdf

    Neon Revolt's article also references Alex Christopher's Pandora's Box, which I have now uploaded to the Avalon Library: http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/The-...hristopher.pdf
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    This Neon Revolt article also reports on the location of the pool that Q referenced. The pool is inside the "Biltmore", part of the Vanderbilt estate in North Carolina.

    According to David Icke's "The Biggest Secret" (linked above by myself, and a key source for Neon Revolt's article, posted above by mgray):
    Quote One of the descendants of this line was the billionaire, Howard Hughes. Many of the famous American families who appeared to be powerful in their own right turn out to have been leg-men for Payseur and the Virginia Company. Andrew Carnegie was a young employee at a Payseur steelworks who was used to front another company which Payseur called Carnegie Steel. The Vanderbilt family claim that a mansion called Biltmore is their country home. Not true.

    Biltmore was constructed by the Payseur family as a hotel in the 1880s and it was operated by the Payseur trustees, the Vanderbilts, on a 99 year lease. Another Payseur trustee was J. P. Morgan, one of the most famous industrialists and bankers in American history. He was yet another face behind which those truly in control could hide the extent of their power.
    From the North Carolina State University archives, Swimming pool, Biltmore Estate, Asheville, North Carolina:
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    That Biltmore also has a nice exterior pool (image from Wikipedia):
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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and a “Very Bad Day” Scenario - for some elite swamp critters (Nov 2017 and beyond)

    more Clinton emails....


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    Latest Praying Medic Video - Qanon August 16 - We Are in Control



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    Has The Parade Of Parades Been Canceled Or Is Trump Mocking The Deep State - X22 Report Episode 1641b



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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and a “Very Bad Day” Scenario - for some elite swamp critters (Nov 2017 and beyond)

    maybe they'll get a more personalised "parade" the kind that makes house calls

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    Seems to me its much more than a "low level document format" that you say it is.... It appears to be affiliated with AP website, as indicated at the bottom of the document below...

    ...
    MOS Web Page: http://www.enps.com/mosproto
    MOS Discussion/Collaboration http://support.enps.com/~mos

    SOURCE
    I cannot find the exact page that you copied in your reply.

    However, looking around the AP website https://www.ap.org/en-us/, and the MOS website http://mosprotocol.com/, and doing a little bit more searching, I see (on this MOS website page) that many companies participate in the development of the MOS protocol, including the AP:
    Quote Who Participates in the Development of MOS?

    Some of the best software and hardware vendors in the Broadcast Industry are participating in the development of the MOS Protocol. The first meeting of the group was held in Orlando, Florida during the late summer of 1998 at AP’s ENPS developer’s conference. Based on feedback from the hardware and software vendors present, and AP’s own desire for an open protocol, the fundamental concepts of MOS were released to the public domain.

    As of 2014 more than 300 companies participate in the development of MOS. Worldwide, they include some of the largest and most influential software and hardware vendors in the broadcast industry.
    Of course, the enps.com links that you provide in your long quoted matter:
    ...
    MOS Web Page: http://www.enps.com/mosproto
    MOS Discussion/Collaboration http://support.enps.com/~mos
    ...
    redirect to AP web pages. That is because ENPS is an AP project; it is not the MOS project itself. ENPS is the AP project that participates, along with over 300 other companies, in the development of the MOS protocol.

    The MOS protocol is a protocol for the exchange of media between computers. It is not some controlling agency; it is not a news agency; it is not the AP (Associated Press).

    The fact that the AP has a project (ENPS) that cooperates with many other companies in the development of the MOS protocol does not change this.

    Oh -- pray tell -- where did you copy that long text about MOS, ENPS and the AP from?
    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    MOS Web Page: http://www.enps.com/mosproto
    MOS Discussion/Collaboration http://support.enps.com/~mos

    >>>SOURCE<<<
    The two links that you copied from my Post #6338 - MOS Web Page & the MOS Discussion/Collaboration were both obtained from within the Word document that is available for download from web page link that I provided labeled 'SOURCE' ....

    There are more links there - one contains more technical information that you may find of interest...
    Media Object Server Communications Protocol (MOS): An evolving protocol for communications between Newsroom Computer Systems (NCS) and Media Object Servers (MOS) such as Video Servers, Audio Servers, Still Stores, and Character Generators. This protocol is supported and developed through cooperative collaboration among equipment vendors, software vendors and end users. Our goal is to develop and maintain a common communications protocol which allows integration of diverse NCS and MOS equipment.

    This site is used by collaborators, both vendor developers and customers, to continue the authorship and implementation of this emerging industry standard protocol.

    Technical documents can be found here which define the protocol and outline its use. Also included are non-technical documents which describe the various ways MOS can be implemented and the benefits it will provide to end users.

    Please visit the MOS Forums to collaborate on a variety of MOS related topics. Users will be required to create an account to post to the forum.
    I did not look at MOS as a "controlling device", but a service that was made available for 'members' to access the available information that is provided. This puts all 'members' to be on the 'same page' when they broadcast that information. As, we've all witnessed the exact same news stories (verbatim) being told over the various networks.
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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    The two links that you copied from my Post #6338 - MOS Web Page & the MOS Discussion/Collaboration were both obtained from within the Word document that is available for download from the link I provided labeled 'SOURCE' ....
    Ah - that explains why I couldn't find the source for what you posted ... I didn't click on every link and read every Word doc, on every page that I could get by clicking on every link on every page that I could get to through the links in your post .

    For those (if there are any) who are still wondering where some of the text in your above Post #6338 came from, it seems to be from the Word document The-MOS-Project.doc, that is linked to from the page http://mosprotocol.com/promote-mos/, that is linked to from the page http://mosprotocol.com/, that you labeled as the SOURCE.

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    There are more links there - some contain more technical information that you may find of interest...
    Unless you're still interested in making the case that Q's "MOS" referred to the "Media Object Server Communications Protocol", which I hope you're not, and unless I'm interested in continuing to respond with my doubts of that possible decode of Q, which I hope I'm not, then no ... I'm not interested in pursuing that MOS further. Thanks, anyway.
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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    The two links that you copied from my Post #6338 - MOS Web Page & the MOS Discussion/Collaboration were both obtained from within the Word document that is available for download from the link I provided labeled 'SOURCE' ....
    Ah - that explains why I couldn't find the source for what you posted ... I didn't click on every link and read every Word doc, on every page that I could get by clicking on every link on every page that I could get to through the links in your post .

    For those (if there are any) who are still wondering where some of the text in your above Post #6338 came from, it seems to be from the Word document The-MOS-Project.doc, that is linked to from the page http://mosprotocol.com/promote-mos/, that is linked to from the page http://mosprotocol.com/, that you labeled as the SOURCE.

    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    There are more links there - some contain more technical information that you may find of interest...
    Unless you're still interested in making the case that Q's "MOS" referred to the "Media Object Server Communications Protocol", which I hope you're not, and unless I'm interested in continuing to respond with my doubts of that possible decode of Q, which I hope I'm not, then no ... I'm not interested in pursuing that MOS further. Thanks, anyway.
    As A Voice from the Mountains had pointed out, as well as some others that I've run across have stated, Q has often posted words / phrases that have double meanings. So, it could be that both arguments could be correct.

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    So, it could be that both arguments could be correct.
    Absolutely, to that extend, MOS could mean two things, just as ES (Eric Schmidt or Edward Snowden) does.

    But I never argued otherwise in this case.
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    1. Proof of assassination attempts
    2. Proof of murder/child sacrifice
    3. Proof of Treason

    Will Q offer some proof before the election? An anon saying proof is not really proof, and no media will accept a verbal testimony without some supporting evidence....
    Though I dream of such a day, I do not honestly expect that we will see the day when most ordinary people are of a common mind on such controversial topics as assassination attempts, murders, sacrifices or treasons.

    Such consensus seems to occur mostly when the lies have been sufficiently successful that most ordinary people believe variations of the same lie, by which time, some other controversy is stirring up division and dissent over some other set of conflicting lies.

    I find Q's post #1884 of 15 August 2018 to be very helpful in seeing a slightly larger picture of where we're at:
    SA [ACCESS] CLOSED.
    EPSTEIN ISLAND [ACCESS] CLOSED.
    HAITI [ACCESS] CLOSED.
    NK [ACCESS] CLOSED.
    CHINA [ACCESS] CLOSED.
    RUSSA [ACCESS] CLOSED.
    CUBA [ACCESS] CLOSED.
    SUDAN [ACCESS] PENDING [GOV'T][SA US PUSH]
    SYRIA [ACCESS] PENDING [GOV'T]
    YEMEN [ACCESS] PENDING [GOV'T][SA US PUSH]
    LIBYA [ACCESS] PENDING [MAIN PORT CLOSED][LIMITED]
    SOMALIA [ACCESS] PENDING [SA US PUSH]
    From this post of Q's, I infer that
    • the deep state associated with the Bush-Clinton-Obama crime syndicate, had deep and frequently fraudulent access to powerful people or resources of Saudi Arabia (SA), Epstein Island, Haiti, North Korea, China, Russia, and Cuba,
    • this crime syndicate was an arm of the Rockefellers, Petro-Dollar, US Justice Dept, and US military-industrial-intelligence complex,
    • in the case of the smaller nations on this list, that access was controlling,
    • this crime syndicate is losing that access and control, and
    • those behind it (Rockefellers, CIA, ...) are being taken down a big notch.
    I also infer that Sudan, Syria, Yemen, Libya and Somalia are traveling along the same restructuring path.

    The ties run deep and twisted, between the above named external (outside the US) entities, and the power structures internal to the US, which have been dominated by the Bush-Clinton crime syndicate since at least the assassination of JKF in 1963.

    Therefore, as without (in nations such as listed above), so within (within the US) ...

    Thus, I suspect that the thousands of sealed indictments and the various investigations by the FBI (Huber and Horowitz) and military intelligence are typical Trump negotiating tactics: charge hard and relentlessly, often threatening even more, going for their weak spots, but in an unpredictable and shifting manner, while you extract what advantages you can. Don't show your hand as to what you really want, or as to what you will really give up in return for it.

    For now, the investigations with teeth, the mounting pile of sealed indictments, the public relations victories, and other shifts in foreign and domestic policies have the Bush-Clinton crime syndicate and its backers off balance, on their heels, which is just where Trump wants them.

    Where Trump is really going with this, I don't know. He is certainly far more practiced at not showing his hand ahead of time, than I am at decoding convoluted, obfuscated, high-state, high-stake events

    But I am confident that Trump is not thumbing his nose at all the more powerful entities on this planet. He is somebody's front man.
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    I wonder of Donald Trump is also related to these royal bloodlines, and if so, is his blood "more royal" than the woman I'd rather not name against whom he ran.
    I don't know how anyone could confirm this but I've read that he has Rh negative blood (relatively rare), and his family has had military-industrial connections at least since his nuclear physicist uncle was involved in certain weapons projects.


    Then, speaking of military-industrial connections, there's this, which I take as half joking, because the resemblance is uncanny:




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    This is speculation only; a timeline of what may happen from the general "gist" of "Q" posts: (crossposted)
    I started a thread for long-term predictions a year ago. You should post there too. I get a kick out of this sort of thing.

    So far, the only one I'm half-doubting at this point is about Mike Pence not being the VP candidate in 2020. I'm still not sure about the guy, but I also agree that Trump is willing to make deals and forgive past transgressions with the right negotiations. But something about Pence seems off to me and there's been shady stuff going on under his watch as governor of Indiana. Who knows. We'll see.

    Quote * Focus & possible exposure of the true 9-11 Events in September, along with major outing of primary pedophile/trafficking groups, and the main Deep State players; ie Clintons, Obama, Bushes etc - all the "usual suspects"
    One thing I've noticed is that most of these revelations happen in layers. A relatively small group gets the info first, then it's made more obvious to expand its reach, and finally even MSM has to pick up on it.

    It all unrolls over such a period of time that it's allowed to seep into public consciousness in a controlled way. This prevents people from literally going into shock and having nervous breakdowns, which I understand is a very real possibility when dropping this kind of heavy stuff out of nowhere on "sheeple."


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    John Sweeney didn't produce one actual piece of evidence to invalidate Q. Instead he mocked it. He didn't mock claims of rampant corruption at the heart of Scientology when that landed on his desk, no, he bravely went after it with a journalistic microscope and peeled the lid right off of it, to his acclaim.
    Of course he can only mock it. He can't even bring up the specific claims because he'd only be helping incriminate his buddies!

    It's beautiful. They can't even talk about it without screwing themselves. Damned if they do, damned if they don't!
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    I did not look at MOS as a "controlling device", but a service that was made available for 'members' to access the available information
    MOS is not a higher level service provided to people or their institutions.

    MOS is a computer data protocol, used in connecting computers and transmitting formatted data between them.

    MOS is bits and bytes and their ordering and significance within low level data packets.

    It's not a service.
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    For comparison, Paul, is it not similar to an RSS feed? I think those also use XML.

    If that's a valid comparison, then here's an RSS feed as an example of what that looks like: https://www.westmonster.com/feed/

    When I read about the MOS protocol, that's the kind of thing I have in mind. Accurate or no?

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    For comparison, Paul, is it not similar to an RSS feed? I think those also use XML.
    Similar to the data protocol underlying RSS, yes.

    Imagine you want to write a program in C, Python, Rust, ... whatever your favorite low level programming language is (those are my current three favorites), where that program allows you to view RSS feeds of your favorite websites (e.g. our RSS feed at http://projectavalon.net/forum4/external.php?type=RSS2), using your custom programmed Arduino board. You'd need to know how to map the bits and bytes of the low level data packets you got back from the various RSS feeds you visited into sensible data to feed onto the monitor you had attacked to your Arduino. The exact details of that mapping, from bits and bytes, to structured RSS data, would be spelled out in an RSS specification, such as can be found at https://cyber.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html.

    Similarly, writing programs that read and write MOS data streams requires a bit and byte level understanding of the data streams that transfer media files and other such data in the MOS data layout.
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