Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis
Thank you Edina! I think you raise an excellent point, if Q researchers are acting locally, then Q research isn’t a diversion for them.Posted by edina (here)
Your concerns are understandable.
I have some increasingly grave concerns and red flags going up left and right when I observe the human behavior and language associated with following this bizarre, complex, information-rich phenomenon.
One component that disturbs me is that there is a polarization occurring. Either Q is real or fake. I don’t believe it is a question of real or fake. That sort of polarized “all or nothing” thinking is actually part of an irrational, emotion-driven reasoning.
In my view, Q is more complicated than "Q is either real or fake".
Q is separate from Corsi and all of the analysts.
The thing that disturbs me is how quickly Corsi was picked up and followed, only to later serve as a divisive wedge in the Q anon community. This is a huge red flag, from a phenomenon-based approach.
I would posit that the issue is: “how trustworthy is the analyst based on past and current behavior?” Followed up by, “to what degree does the analyst have a secondary benefit from presenting the analysis?”
What if some of these analysts are just headline chasers, that don’t care whether they are correct? In listening to some of them on youtube, I'm hearing people reading Q posts and reading news stories based on previously established analyses. Those analyses are then being put forward as "the truth" because dots are being connected.
Has anyone honestly considered the role of sociopathy and/or secondary gain playing a role in people’s opinions that lead them to attempt to try to prey on the public Q anon followers? Many are anonymous people on the internet, including Q. Heck, Q (whatever that is anymore) even warned about this issue. Isaac Green is asking Q followers to send him to graduate school for crying out loud.
My overall point is this, we’ve gone way off the reservation on this Q thing since October. They told us extradition orders were ordered for HRC, and months later we see her jetsetting around India.
It’s time for Q/him/her/it/they to do an anonymous interview and stop with the cryptic games. Trump was quite vocal pre-election about "crooked Hillary". While it should be about the message and the cause, it is obvious that hopium isn’t enough.
This shouldn’t be an issue of faith and patriotism, if the goal is to prosecute and fairly try child molesters and mass murderers, it would have been done as soon as evidence was collected.
Someone truly committed to the message wouldn’t allow the current division or child abuse to continue for one dang minute. They’ve been sitting on this evidence to convict the clintons and huma for how long? 6 months?!
How many kids have they allegedly allowed to be molested in that time frame? Podesta isn’t in jail— he was just on ancient aliens— after that illegal video was released??
I understand that many folks online that have been following Q since day 1 have a great deal of emotional investment in this whole situation, and the reflex is to respond by defending Q and not sitting with the cognitive dissonance. I've been down this road before.
I see that the sheer volume of data being generated on this issue on the internet as serving almost like a cloud. I can't see through it, it is too complicated and fast moving.
Objectively, what are the measurable, specific, behavioral future results?
How do we know that the mission is finally accomplished?
Another thing. A Korean War vet told me this saying they used to keep themselves focused: “that diversion you are trying to ignore, is the attack you were expecting.”
I would ask, what’s been going on that Q hasn’t talked about?
Last thought- what if the future behavioral outcome is actually the opposite of what is intended? If this is indeed a battle of the illuminati, there are going to be casualties on all sides, and some of that is going to trickle down to those helping either side.
Are you looking more closely at your local area?
This is happening in Colorado.
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/1...p-impeachment/
And in the county I live in, the locals are calling to remove a County Commissioner because she is hell-bent on implementing Agenda 21 measures, through our land use code. I've been in this fight at the local level for over 20 years. Essentially, it's an implementation of policies under the guise of helping County Commissioner's make more regulated decisions. Its all sounds good in theory, but when you look at the actual code, you can see a roll out of policies that undermine people's property rights. Often, even gardening can become illegal in these LUC's.
What's come out in the open in this latest bout, is that there are only a few companies in the business of writing these Land Use Code. Counties often contract the action to one of these few companies. Our local county is having a hard time finding anyone to do the job for them. It's all truly bizarre, when you look closer at the whole issue.
Even the local newspaper ran a front page article about Agenda 21, calling it a conspiracy theory and the people trying to recall this County Commissioner, conspiracists as a way to stem the momentum.
Which is great. A lot of people who had never heard of Agenda 21, did.
And it got a lot of conversations happening. Helped the cause, rather than hurt it.
The local Land Use Codes (LUC) are one of the ways in which that Agenda is trying to be slipped in under the radar.
This elected gal is backed by the money of the Koch billionaires, who spout support for personal property rights, and yet are funding this woman.
They are throwing tens of thousands, or more, dollars at this contest. Which is odd. Usually wealthy people consider contributions to be investments, and expect a Return on the Investment (ROI).
The local ranchers and farmers and rural area residents are boot strapping their cause at a tune of a few thousand dollars and have so far succeeded in getting the sufficient number of signatures for an election recall.
We've had a lot of roadblocks thrown in our way, along the way. Another one just happened today.
(I want to also mention, there have been thousands of children rescued in our country and other countries over the past year, just from following local news on the issue. Much of the drama of Mockingbird Media, MSM and MSAM, is actually meant to distract people from this fact.)
I mention this because I've discovered that taking action on issues your concerned about helps to alleviate the concern emotions. Action reduces anxiety. Maybe it's a cliche', but I found it to be consistently effective.
Corruption is happening at every level. Action needs to happen at every level, too.
I've also called the Q-Anon Phenom, a research movement. It's actually a bit more than that. People are taking action based on what they are learning.
How is learning how to ferret out corruption and demanding it be cleaned out of our governmental and corporate (including NGO and Charity/Foundations) institutions a distraction?
It's more like the people taking back their power.
Yes, on the local level here we have already called out the governor for corruption, and it was brought up in the first televised debate. We’ve got a few agenda 21 groups on the radar trying to zone farmers land as residential (rather than agricultural), so they can shut down the organic farm and turn it into subdivisions.
We’ve also worked with churches locally to help victims of human trafficking get translators so they can make police statements and apply for citizenship, as the state has unfortunately become a human trafficking pipeline.
All of this stuff is going on here with the regular folk who don’t care about party affiliation, since we’re all neighbors this stuff is ultimately our problem anyway.
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