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    Quote Posted by Bluegreen (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    There we have it. "where we go one we go all", from the mouth of general Flynn, who would have been director of national intelligence.
    And at last we know Q is a Republican psyop

    Is it the singer or the song?
    I think to draw that conclusion as definitive (ie. a final conclusion all must share) is a mistake. I would (and do) fully defend your right to your opinion. Yet, to characterize your opinion with the "and at last we know" psyop protocol is, in my opinion, revelatory to either a.) that which you wish to be true or b.) perhaps something else or c.) additionally.

    I will point out that even the term "Republican" has all sorts of different connotations today. There's a vast swath of "never-Trumpers" who are "Republican." I doubt the "Republican" hat they wear cheers for "true justice" for General Flynn (assuming "true justice" means vindication that he was setup illegally and that any "crimes' generated by a empowered, biased prosecutorial collective via the pressure they applied to General Flynn were agreeably unethical if not criminal in their own right). I doubt that the never-Trumper "Republicans" wish to be associated with "anything Q" much less the taking of a "Q" shared "oath" meant to be released on social media and featuring the "WWG1WGA" Q slogan.

    To make the statement -

    Quote And at last we know Q is a Republican psyop

    Is it the singer or the song?
    only prevents actual exploration of what might actually be going on with Q itself... who/what is actually behind it and why.

    I will be attempting to explore this over here and invite intelligent, in depth discussion where folks are able to "check their charge" before posting -

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...cussion-thread
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    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by Gemma13 (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    There we have it. "where we go one we go all", from the mouth of general Flynn, who would have been director of national intelligence.
    Goddam that's a biggie!
    Maybe.

    But then again... I can see how General Flynn could, as he became aware of Q and as he saw Q focusing so heavily on his situation from the shared point of view that Flynn was "rail-roaded"... I could see the possibility Flynn would jump on the Q train and frankly, if I were Flynn, I most certainly would.

    But that still does not answer the very most basic questions about Q. Will we ever get to the bottom of it? Could that even be done in today's environment where everyone is so darn "dug in" and so darn "filled with charge?"
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Another interesting aside is that the Joe Biden island is named Water Island.
    Nope, Joe comes to ST Croix almost annually (the island I live on) water island is very small and has about 50 houses and 2 beach bars (it's next to St Thomas & is far away from "pedo island" (st james))... awesome spot, but NO rich people, my house is bigger than anything on water island and it's pretty modest.

    I've lived here 7 years, it's very very small here.
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    I half hope that just as the US is about to get into it that the prez. would interject with his emergency broadcast taking over all the airways and that a big very transparent reveal would ensue and not necessarily run by Trump. It could be a democrat general or admiral truth be told because all they will be concerned with is facts and believe me if the NSA is involved they have all the facts. All of it. No question about it they have all the CIA has and they have the same on the CIA itself as the NSA is at least seven times the size of the CIA if not eight or nine times at this writing. If the NSA is on Trump's team he has it all for real and is just weighing the timing of the release. Oh and it's my contention that Trump is also cleaning up a lot of his own messes behind the scenes using Barr and others.
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    Quote Posted by Chester (here)
    I think to draw that conclusion as definitive (ie. a final conclusion all must share) is a mistake.
    I agree, and stand guilty of a crime that particularly rankles me; presenting opinions as fact.

    Thank you for the reminder, Chester.

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    Trumps Sends Last Warning To [DS]/MSM, Flynn Confirms, Silent No More (36 min)



    [CB] Panicking, They Just Admitted Their System Is Doomed (17 min)


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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Another interesting aside is that the Joe Biden island is named Water Island.
    Nope, Joe comes to ST Croix almost annually (the island I live on) water island is very small and has about 50 houses and 2 beach bars (it's next to St Thomas & is far away from "pedo island" (st james))... awesome spot, but NO rich people, my house is bigger than anything on water island and it's pretty modest.

    I've lived here 7 years, it's very very small here.
    I still think it is way cool that you get to live on a Caribbean Island.

    I was feeling playful when I commented on the Island, and said Joe's name. It was Joe's brother, James who owned a piece of property on Water Island.

    And it looks like Joe did vacation there, according to this article.
    Quote The Bidens vacationed on Water Island in 2008, 2009 and 2010.
    For me, the news that Joe regularly traveled to area was a surprise, as was the information that George Webb shared about older submarine bases in the area.

    It's possible, too, that there is more going on with Ghislaine's Terre Mar charity.

    And there may be some connections to Venezuela in this story, too.

    Something to keep in the side-pocket of the mind, if one feels inclined.

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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    So anyone else know of others missing but that flew out there? Wasn't Hillary out there also?
    Quote Posted by Bluegreen (here)
    Yes Ratman I am working on that right now with the old standby: pencil and paper, and thank you for posting RD. I am about halfway through and so far:

    Trump flew on Epstein's plane once, from NJ to FL. Harrelson, not so far. Hillary yes. Lynn de Rothschild yes. Will Ferrell, Barack Obama, Steven Tyler and others not so far and I doubt it. I know from Virginia Giuffre that Matt Groening did, but again, not so far. I am not looking at those identified by initials because who knows? so keep that in mind. Some of these names are listed in his "Black Book" (Woody Allen, who never flew, and others) but I am concentrating on the flight logs.

    Best as I can tell, this list comes from the Wanted Emcees, a white hip-hop trio from St Louis led by a professional magician who are Q fans. I was unable to determine if they got it from another source. Aside from Chris Tucker, Bill Clinton's pal, I have not matched any other African-Americans listed with the hand-written flight logs. Not surprising, as Epstein was a known racist, at least with his women.

    I will post when done.
    A Bluegreen repost from here:
    Who flew with Jeffrey

    Making no assumptions whatsoever, I went through the Epstein flight logs and wrote down every name to appear in full. Of the list referenced below, .47%, or nearly half, do not appear. It is possible that one or more are listed by initials only. (For example, while it is reasonable to assume that "Virginia" or "VR" refers to Virginia Roberts, I did not. Nevertheless, "Virginia Roberts" does appear numerous times.)

    Additionally, the pilot, David Rodgers (whose handwriting is terrible), seems to have been in the habit of writing down the full names of famous people (Ex: "Princess Sarah Ferguson") It is factual that some of these names appear in Epstein's "Black Book", but it cannot be ascertained definitively that they flew on an Epstein-owned airplane. The following famous names do not appear on the flight logs of the "Lolita Express":

    Alec Baldwin • Anderson Cooper • Anthony Kiedis • Barack Obama • Ben Affleck • Brian Affleck • Beyonce Knowles • Bill Murray • Charlie Sheen • Chelsea Handler • Chrissy Tiegen • Courtney Love • Dan Schneider • David Koch • Demi Moore • Ehud Barak • Gwen Stefani • James Franco • James Gunn • Jeffrey Jones • Jim Carrey • Jimmy Kimmel • John Cusack • John Legend • Kathy Griffin • Katy Perry • Madonna Ciccone • Marc Collins-Rector • Marshall Mathers III • Meryl Streep • Oprah Winfrey • Pharrel Williams • Quentin Tarantino • Robert Downey Jr • Seth Green • Stefani Germanotta • Stephen Colbert • Steven Spielberg • Steven Tyler • Tom Hanks • Wanda Sykes • Will Ferrell • Woody Allen • Will Smith

    Reference:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1364056
    Epstein flight logs:
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...manifests.html

    Great research, Bluegreen.
    I went back to check if I heard correctly about the list. Both IPOT and X22 Report covered it. As you point out, not all people flew to Epstein’s island in the “Lolita Express”. Some of the confusion about the list may be with the names in Epstein’s Little Black Book.

    The other part is what's changed is the initial title of Q Drop 4577. I'm not sure how common titles are updated, but the latest version clarifies it: “List of Notable People Including Popular Hollywood stars and Directors”. When IPOT and X22 Report covered the latest Q Drops the title was: “Link to New Q Drop”.

    IPOT @ 15:56:
    So it goes on and on and on. And these are really going to be the names. These are the names of people that were on the Epstein’s flight logs.
    X22 Report @ 28:45:
    These are names of people who have flown on Epstein's plane, Lolita Express, to his island. This is from his black book and I believe there's probably going to be a lot more names coming out. Q is letting us know.
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    So that list is not the list of people that have flown to the island! Its' simply out of Epstein's black book of elite contacts or notable people! Even the pilot seemed on board with making special mention of the notables by spelling out their names. Almost like part of a resume or something. Good work! Thanks
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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    So that list is not the list of people that have flown to the island! Its' simply out of Epstein's black book of elite contacts or notable people! Even the pilot seemed on board with making special mention of the notables by spelling out their names. Almost like part of a resume or something. Good work! Thanks
    More or less. My guess is the list is a work in progress for the authorities and names for the public to keep an eye on as they research.
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    Chanel Rion, the White House correspondent, retweets Michael Salla as he comments on Q. As Salla says “so much for critics claiming Q is a LARP”.

    https://twitter.com/Inevitable_ET/st...97709894238208

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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Chanel Rion, the White House correspondent, retweets Michael Salla as he comments on Q. As Salla says “so much for critics claiming Q is a LARP”.

    https://twitter.com/Inevitable_ET/st...97709894238208
    You referring to this video Jayke, and General Mike also says at the end of the video WWG1WGA, a nod to Qanon.

    There also seems to be some coding in their raised hands seemingly 1 5 1 5 1 5

    Seems I am late to the party thanks Edina for posting the original from General Mike.

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    That Flynn statement at the end is about as strong a Q confirmation as I can imagine! I don't think there has been anything stronger to confirm Q to top that one. Makes me wonder if Flynn isn't who is helping POTUS.
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    ICYMI

    The counterbalance to decades of demoralization is #MAGA.


    #GodBlessTheUSA
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    So anyone else know of others missing but that flew out there? Wasn't Hillary out there also?
    Quote Posted by Bluegreen (here)
    Yes Ratman I am working on that right now with the old standby: pencil and paper, and thank you for posting RD. I am about halfway through and so far:

    Trump flew on Epstein's plane once, from NJ to FL. Harrelson, not so far. Hillary yes. Lynn de Rothschild yes. Will Ferrell, Barack Obama, Steven Tyler and others not so far and I doubt it. I know from Virginia Giuffre that Matt Groening did, but again, not so far. I am not looking at those identified by initials because who knows? so keep that in mind. Some of these names are listed in his "Black Book" (Woody Allen, who never flew, and others) but I am concentrating on the flight logs.

    Best as I can tell, this list comes from the Wanted Emcees, a white hip-hop trio from St Louis led by a professional magician who are Q fans. I was unable to determine if they got it from another source. Aside from Chris Tucker, Bill Clinton's pal, I have not matched any other African-Americans listed with the hand-written flight logs. Not surprising, as Epstein was a known racist, at least with his women.

    I will post when done.
    A Bluegreen repost from here:
    Who flew with Jeffrey

    Making no assumptions whatsoever, I went through the Epstein flight logs and wrote down every name to appear in full. Of the list referenced below, .47%, or nearly half, do not appear. It is possible that one or more are listed by initials only. (For example, while it is reasonable to assume that "Virginia" or "VR" refers to Virginia Roberts, I did not. Nevertheless, "Virginia Roberts" does appear numerous times.)

    Additionally, the pilot, David Rodgers (whose handwriting is terrible), seems to have been in the habit of writing down the full names of famous people (Ex: "Princess Sarah Ferguson") It is factual that some of these names appear in Epstein's "Black Book", but it cannot be ascertained definitively that they flew on an Epstein-owned airplane. The following famous names do not appear on the flight logs of the "Lolita Express":

    Alec Baldwin • Anderson Cooper • Anthony Kiedis • Barack Obama • Ben Affleck • Brian Affleck • Beyonce Knowles • Bill Murray • Charlie Sheen • Chelsea Handler • Chrissy Tiegen • Courtney Love • Dan Schneider • David Koch • Demi Moore • Ehud Barak • Gwen Stefani • James Franco • James Gunn • Jeffrey Jones • Jim Carrey • Jimmy Kimmel • John Cusack • John Legend • Kathy Griffin • Katy Perry • Madonna Ciccone • Marc Collins-Rector • Marshall Mathers III • Meryl Streep • Oprah Winfrey • Pharrel Williams • Quentin Tarantino • Robert Downey Jr • Seth Green • Stefani Germanotta • Stephen Colbert • Steven Spielberg • Steven Tyler • Tom Hanks • Wanda Sykes • Will Ferrell • Woody Allen • Will Smith

    Reference:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1364056
    Epstein flight logs:
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...manifests.html

    Great research, Bluegreen.
    I went back to check if I heard correctly about the list. Both IPOT and X22 Report covered it. As you point out, not all people flew to Epstein’s island in the “Lolita Express”. Some of the confusion about the list may be with the names in Epstein’s Little Black Book.

    The other part is what's changed is the initial title of Q Drop 4577. I'm not sure how common titles are updated, but the latest version clarifies it: “List of Notable People Including Popular Hollywood stars and Directors”. When IPOT and X22 Report covered the latest Q Drops the title was: “Link to New Q Drop”.

    IPOT @ 15:56:
    So it goes on and on and on. And these are really going to be the names. These are the names of people that were on the Epstein’s flight logs.
    X22 Report @ 28:45:
    These are names of people who have flown on Epstein's plane, Lolita Express, to his island. This is from his black book and I believe there's probably going to be a lot more names coming out. Q is letting us know.
    Someone on Twitter has created a Twitter thread with a snippet of information about each person on the list.

    https://twitter.com/anony_fa_mous/st...38426820030468

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    Another fascinating interview with Charlie Freak and Coleen which offers a very credible explanation for who Q really is, imo.

    Having said that, I need to add that the information presented about satanic abuse of children is not for the faint hearted and is something which I'll be processing for a long time to come. How the general public will cope when all of this is out in the open is anyone's guess but yes, in the end it's all really about the children.


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    I'm sorry angelfire, I just can't listen to this vid., I have read and heard much, but it just burns in
    my head and mind, and makes me ill to know as much about this as I do already, it is horrifying. God Bless and save our children. Thank you for the heads up ahead of time.

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    I'm sorry angelfire, I just can't listen to this vid., I have read and heard much, but it just burns in my head and mind, and makes me ill to know as much about this as I do already, it is horrifying. God Bless and save our children. Thank you for the heads up ahead of time.
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    Having said that, I need to add that the information presented about satanic abuse of children is not for the faint hearted and is something which I'll be processing for a long time to come. How the general public will cope when all of this is out in the open is anyone's guess but yes, in the end it's all really about the children.
    Yes, thanks for the heads up, angelfire and Sadieblue. I’m downloading it, that way I can fast forward when necessary.

    I can’t help but wonder if the horrific parts of what’s been happening in our world will be too much for many. It’ll knock them into a nightmarish denial for years to come.

    It may trigger families of physical, emotional and sexual abuse. I suspect we’ll see more displaced anger, rage, acting out behaviors and other coping mechanisms with foods, drugs and alcohol.

    It’s easy to understand why a lot of this information needs to be shown not told. Pull back the layers in slow-motion.

    Godspeed. Liberation. Freedom like we've never experienced before.

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    They are Stealing the Election ALREADY

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    I'm sorry angelfire, I just can't listen to this vid., I have read and heard much, but it just burns in
    my head and mind, and makes me ill to know as much about this as I do already, it is horrifying. God Bless and save our children. Thank you for the heads up ahead of time.
    Yes, I completely understand. You can miss the discussion concerning the children which starts at 38mins. in and ends around 60 mins.

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    Sadieblue, I completely understand. You can skip the discussion about the children which begins at 38 min. in and ends around the one hour mark.

    Problems with editing which is why my response has appeared twice!
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