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    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...#ixzz6BbRjZGOv

    Quote Hackers targeted American Thinker after it put up a post about Q

    By Andrea Widburg

    On Tuesday, January 14, American Thinker put up an article entitled "An Introduction to Q." It was one of the site's most popular articles for several days. Since Tuesday, the American Thinker site and email account have been subject to several cyber-attacks. There's no way to tell whether the attacks are related to the post, but the timing is thought-provoking.


    …..


    The editors at American Thinker are agnostic about Q. They realize it's perfectly easy to read the Q phenomenon either way.

    That is, QAnon can be nothing more than a fancy conspiracy theory. After all, the human mind is hardwired to find connections, even where none exists.

    Alternatively, it could, in fact, be an intelligence operation laying a trail of crumbs that promise people that things that currently worry them — a transnational elite, a dishonest media establishment, and moral corruption in high places around the world — are not here permanently. Instead, Q promises that there is a plan to deal with these problems, with Trump's government at the center of that plan.

    Ultimately, when looking at Q, it really can go either way.

    But here's an interesting coincidence: since January 14, the day American Thinker published Franklin's take on Q, the site has experienced several attempted hacks, something that's never happened before.

    On January 15, someone identified as from Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam tried to get into American Thinker's email account. At the same time, the first person from American Thinker who tried to sign into the account was then locked out of his computer because malware was trying to install itself.

    On January 17, another hacker attempted to get into the American Thinker email. Once again, thankfully, the system appeared to have foiled the attempt by shutting down before anything bad happened. On the same day, another editor at American Thinker watched a computer tied to that same email account abruptly die.

    On January 19, the email system again stopped working, rebuffing people's attempts to sign in. This time, the attempt came from the Persian Gulf.

    On January 20, the back-end of American Thinker was the subject of an attack, locking out the editors entirely. Fortunately, American Thinker has superb tech support, so the lockdown was quickly foiled.

    As mentioned above, the human mind is hardwired to find connections, even where none exists. While that ability can occasionally lead us to the wrong places, it exists so that we can organize the chaos that is the world around us, enabling people to locate food and shelter and distinguish friend from foe. This could just have been American Thinker's week to get hacked, or American Thinker might have put a target on its back.

    Nevertheless, just in case either Q is the real deal or Q's opponents are worried (or know) that Q is the real deal, American Thinker will continue to post occasionally about the Q phenomenon in order to keep readers informed about what's either a really cool military operation or a really persuasive, giant conspiracy hoax.
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    The latest from Jonathan Turley regarding the impeachment trail.

    Nadler: Hunter Biden Must Not Be Called
    Quote I have been writing on the obvious relevance of Hunter Biden as a defense witness and the equally obvious hypocrisy of some Democrats in demanding their own witnesses while refusing to consider key White House witnesses. Now. House Judiciary Chairman Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., has suggested that, if a trade is needed to secure House witnesses, the managers will not agree to any witnesses if Hunter Biden is part of the deal. If true, is the House prepared to give up on proving its case to protect the Bidens from the ignoble moment of answering questions about the Ukraine contract? That is a considerable price to pay to protect Joe Biden. It is also another reason why the decision to rush the impeachment vote was such a historic blunder by Speaker Nancy Pelosi. If they had waited a couple months as I called for in my testimony, they could have called these witnesses and not handed over control to the Senate. Instead, they impeached by Christmas and then waited a month. Continue reading here...
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    Nobody Gets A Free Pass, A Week To Remember - Episode 2075b

    Quote The [DS] have been pushing their message on the MSM, trying to control the narrative.
    The people are awake and the great awakening is coming.
    The patriots are in full control, nobody gets a free pass, nobody, patriots have it all.
    Shall we play a game.
    IMF Panics & Makes A Prediction, US Will Decline, Global Economy Will Accelerate - Episode 2075a

    Quote BJ backs plans to pursue the trade deal with the US.
    BJ will be using the negotiations as leverage with the EU.
    USMCA will add 300 billions to US exports.
    IMF is in a panic, global economy will accelerate and the US will decline.
    Source link page: https://x22report.com/nobody-gets-a-...-episode-2075/
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    I recently started paying attention to the text in the X-22 links. What I discovered is there is far more truthful/factual news and reporting featured in these daily reports than I have found anywhere else.

    If what I have gathered is true as to why this thread was made members only, all I can say is this is truly a travesty. What a shame folks were unable to stay on top of their emotions such that this action had to occur. I am glad I missed that saga.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    I know a number of people who would love to see this thread go public again! Unfortunately they are not members.

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    For the record: I like Trump. I hope he pulls it off. He is a bit abysmal re the protection of the 1st amendment. Maybe he is waiting for the timing is everything crap. He is also fairly short sighted re 5g too. I am getting a bit impatient re the Barr and Durham indictments, or is that just a way to cool the peoples temper.

    I think IPOT is entertaining and often informative. x22 is too bullish, eg " the patriots have it under complete control" it turns me off. Q could be a gov psyop, amazing a complete anon could generate such faith. Q + , well we'll see about that. Fulford seems to drink too much saki for me, I have yet to find one of his predictions pan out yet.

    Sgtreport.com is more open even though he seems flat earth is a possibility.

    It is all better news than msm.

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    The thing is the team Trump can't just plunge right in being good and decent fighting the good fight because they have to delicately tip toe around all the egg shells making sure not to break any up to draw attention to their own dirty laundry on the way in for the attack! You see the right has as much to hide as the left does so that is why it goes back and forth! If right was really in charge here it would not play out this way of both sides trying to attack while covering their own crimes! Each side has their own black list, their own untouchable issue that you can't get into deeply so they can only brush the edges and hope it doesn't cause too much digging by the anons or others because both sides of this coin are filthy make no mistake!!! Get off this white hat fantasy please all of you! No white hats exist here! Black hats all and dirty!! Dirty dirty dirty!!
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    New Q: 3777

    https://qmap.pub/

    Eisenhower warns us of the Military Industrial Complex


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

    neon poster:

    Quote Just to add, in case.
    When Eisenhower was cooking up the speech, he was intending to say Military-Industrial-Congressional complex but his advisers said it would be too inflammatory. Hence the Military-Industrial complex was born, truncated.
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    Quote Posted by Blacklight43 (here)
    I know a number of people who would love to see this thread go public again! Unfortunately they are not members.
    Simple question - Are those who had been part of the reason the thread was made "members only" still members? If so, why not use the "thread banning" feature for anyone who crosses the line (again)?

    Observation - It seems that since only members can post in this thread, and thus only members can devolve into disruption, whether the thread is public or not seems to be a non-factor in this regard. So additionally, if those who were involved in the mayhem are either gone from the forum or banned from the thread, doesn't that action show would be disruptors that their fate would be swift?
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by James Newell (here)
    x22 is too bullish ... It is all better news than msm.
    The way he repeats "Trump & The Patriots" I'm starting to think its a rock band

    Quote Posted by Sammy (here)
    If what I have gathered is true as to why this thread was made members only, all I can say is this is truly a travesty.
    Agree

    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Each side has their own black list, both sides of this coin are filthy
    Agree

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    New Q: 3777

    https://qmap.pub/

    Eisenhower warns us of the Military Industrial Complex


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

    neon poster:

    Quote Just to add, in case.
    When Eisenhower was cooking up the speech, he was intending to say Military-Industrial-Congressional complex but his advisers said it would be too inflammatory. Hence the Military-Industrial complex was born, truncated.


    Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. (2:30 min)
    January 17, 1961

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    Quote Posted by Sammy (here)
    Quote Posted by Blacklight43 (here)
    I know a number of people who would love to see this thread go public again! Unfortunately they are not members.
    Simple question - Are those who had been part of the reason the thread was made "members only" still members? If so, why not use the "thread banning" feature for anyone who crosses the line (again)?

    Observation - It seems that since only members can post in this thread, and thus only members can devolve into disruption, whether the thread is public or not seems to be a non-factor in this regard. So additionally, if those who were involved in the mayhem are either gone from the forum or banned from the thread, doesn't that action show would be disruptors that their fate would be swift?
    Sammy, these threads will help answer some of your questions. IIRC, you have a sharp analytical mind (Virgo) with an innate ability to see patterns.

    Unfortunately, Avalon lost a lot of caring, bright and principled members. To this day, they're still in my thoughts. They gave much of their time and expertise across many threads.

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    Thanks, RunningDeer – I see I have a great deal of catch-up to do before I comment again, if I do.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by Sammy (here)
    Thanks, RunningDeer – I see I have a great deal of catch-up to do before I comment again, if I do.
    I understand, Sammy. Even if you don't comment further, thank you for your input over the last couple of weeks here and elsewhere.

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    This is uncanny synchronicity...

    https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/statu...50765871456257

    Great fun, .... and funny.
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    More posts from Q today, @ QMap, 3 so far.
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    When I went to her Twitter account to read it for myself the account no longer exists.
    Here's an image of her comments:
    It's blurred but readable.
    I know this Senator is very pro-2nd Amendment, but am having trouble accepting this is something an elected official would say in public. If so, kudos to her. My impression from edina's post is that the entire page and account has disappeared? Can any facebook users help my understanding?

    Her twitter account is still going and she does make her feelings known ...


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    Bluegreen, the image I shared looked like it came from the Twitter account. @Chase4Senator.

    It was a blue check account, which means that Twitter verified the account belonged to her.

    I have seen another Senator Amanda Chase account.

    It is not a blue check account. It's information is below.
    https://twitter.com/AmandaChaseVA

    @AmandaChaseVA

    This Twitter account is authorized by Friends of Amanda Chase & is not paid for by taxpayer funds. Reps Virginia's 11th Senatorial District
    Richmond, VA
    chase4senate.com

    I feel better if I can track something back to it's source, so when I watched the IPOT report I tried to do that.
    That's when I discovered the @chase4senate Twitter account was no longer active.

    The image of that Tweet I shared above is just one example of several similar images.
    It looks like a lot of people did screen grabs of the image.

    However, that could also have been faked.

    I haven't been on Facebook in a long time, so I haven't checked there.
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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Bluegreen, the image I shared looked like it came from the Twitter account. @Chase4Senator.

    It was a blue check account, which means that Twitter verified the account belonged to her.

    I have seen another Senator Amanda Chase account.

    It is not a blue check account. It's information is below.
    https://twitter.com/AmandaChaseVA

    @AmandaChaseVA

    This Twitter account is authorized by Friends of Amanda Chase & is not paid for by taxpayer funds. Reps Virginia's 11th Senatorial District
    Richmond, VA
    chase4senate.com

    I feel better if I can track something back to it's source, so when I watched the IPOT report I tried to do that.
    That's when I discovered the @chase4senate Twitter account was no longer active.

    The image of that Tweet I shared above is just one example of several similar images.
    It looks like a lot of people did screen grabs of the image.

    However, that could also have been faked.

    I haven't been on Facebook in a long time, so I haven't check there.
    My bad, as I looked closer at the image, it does indeed look like a FB image. (That was tweeted.)

    Just went to FB and found her page: https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/

    Blue check means FB has verified the account as belonging to who it says it belongs to.

    I went to her page and found the post.

    Here's a link to it.

    https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senat...40596102672514
    Posted 17 January 2020 @ 7:44 AM
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    Her twitter account is still going and she does make her feelings known ...
    I didn’t find anything pertaining the removal of the Senator Amanda Chase tweet. I don’t have a Facebook account so that banner keeps popping up. I did manage to grab a few links from her FB site on the gun issue and the rally.
    Interview with Sen. Amanda Chase (3:39 min)
    Sen. Amanda Chase, R-Chesterfield, and her thoughts on the massive showing of gun rights advocates on Lobby Day 2020 at the Capitol.
    “Here's what I would say any bill that would restrict a law-abiding citizens ability to protect themselves should be defeated. Our Second Amendment is the most foundational right that we have - the ability to protect ourselves. And so anytime it infringes on that, we are hurting law abiding citizens. The criminals always get the guns. They steal. They hurt law-abiding citizens. And they’re not going to be following rules, laws or policies anyway…”

    “One of the things that I've been sharing with people is I've called for the governor to step down by midnight tonight. If he does not, which I imagine he will not, we've already put together a legal team to start recalling the vote. We have Republicans. Independents and Democrats who do not like his stance on life, late term abortions also the whole issue with with blackface and then finally this was the last blow is restricting gun rights here, an all-out ban. They said during the election they weren't going to take our guns from us. But guess what? Whey took our guns from us right here on the Capitol and they’re looking now with with legislation to do the same thing…”
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