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    Hi, Folks:

    The light-hearted title of the thread was inspired by DNA's interesting recent observation here:

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    You do not need to know where you have been. You do not need to know any of your past lives in order to attempt to focus on and have the best life you are presently living.

    Past life information is positively not essential, and furthermore those who focus too much on it can find it detrimental.
    This is NOT a comment on that particular discussion, but extracting that segment ^^ out of context, there's quite a lot of truth in that. And I do have a great deal of experience, both as someone who's extensively explored my own past lives (and undergone many hundreds of hours of fascinating regression), but also as a regression practitioner myself. I do know quite a lot about this stuff.

    DNA is right: it's living in the present (and the future!) that counts.

    But the simplistic analogy of waking up right now, today, with amnesia, may be quite a good one.

    If that happened to us, we could manage to get through the rest of the day — and the next few weeks, months and years. We'd somehow make it all work. We'd recognize other people without knowing the details of how we knew them... and many places, activities and also maybe a sense of purpose and mission would also feel strongly familiar.

    But not knowing exactly how we got here, or what happened yesterday or in the previous weeks, months and years, might well be a handicap.

    For instance, we might recognize someone, feel we know them, and instinctively trust them. But — maybe we recognize them because they're an old adversary or enemy.

    We might enter into a close personal relationship, or an important business relationship, because of that 'attraction' and familiarity. But we might be quite blind to the serious problems that rolled out last time we were together.

    As time went on, we might have flashbacks. We might become intrigued and even haunted by them. They might take up a lot of our attention.

    The first three Jason Bourne movies are excellent, entertaining, dramatic examples that really show this point.

    "WHO WAS I?" Wrote Jason Bourne, to himself, in his journal.



    Bourne is obsessed with his unknown past... but with good reason. In the second movie (The Bourne Supremacy), he tries to live a new life with his partner Maria, in Goa, on the Indian coast, leaving everything behind that tortured him so much and which he still didn't understand. But even so, he couldn't let go.

    And then his past — which in another part of the world was also still incomplete — came to find him. His beloved Maria, the only 'good thing' in his life, was assassinated.

    At that point, reeling from the shock, Bourne redoubled his determination to get to the bottom of it all — understanding that for him it would simply never end until he uncovered his true past.

    ~~~

    That's all an excellent allegory. And this is why it can be important and valuable for anyone to explore and discover their past lives: NOT out of idle curiosity, but when there's strong attention there that keeps on pulling us back. When that's the case, it means that there's something there which is AFFECTING the present in some way.

    Like the feedback mechanism of a pain in our body that requires us to pay attention to it and attend to it and heal the problem if necessary, past life 'pain' (or that niggling ache, or a sense that something's not right) can help us to HEAL the problem — that then in turn enables us to live healthily and fully in the present.

    The goals of past life processing are:
    1. To discharge the emotional charge that is a residual, accumulated effect from past traumas, failures, disappointments, impacts, or losses.
    2. To enable us to learn from our errors, or bad choices we made.
    3. To enable us to LET GO of all that and live effectively in the present, and in the future.
    And I should also add:
    • As with any counseling or therapy, the goal of the regression therapist should be to make themselves redundant. If someone's becoming more and more dependent on regression sessions, then it's all going 180º in the wrong direction.
    • And no regression therapist should ever ever ever TELL their client what happened, whether they are correct or not (And sometimes, be warned, they may not be.) The committed journey of discovery is one that the seeker must undertake on their own — of course, with expert and experienced support. This could not be more important.
    • That's because when you truly remember, you KNOW. If you're just told something, it's then always just another belief... and you never actually 'know' at all.

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    Past life readings have been fun for me. Always entertaining and sometimes maybe useful.
    I've not been regressed. I've only been given information by psychics.
    It is not possible for me to verify any information from psychics.
    But readings are still fun.

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    If only modern Psychiatry would recognise and embrace past life regression, and all the therapy and insight it could yield... I believe the world would then be a quite different place.
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    Who am I?

    This has to be an important question, worthy of exploration.

    We as humans all wrestle with dis functionalities, we work on them, heal , improve etc. If we have lead past lives, looking into that may be a healing experience, that improves our lives here and now.

    If one explores past lives, it is likely that some other aspect of ourselves, guides, higher self etc, may present information or experience/memories because they are relevant to our current lives or missions.

    It might become sterile, if it becomes a dusty archeological exercise, but on the whole I trust that being drawn to explore is no error, and what we discover is of value
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Your last paragraph, in my views, is very important. I would add: and when you KNOW, something changes inside you. Observing events without this deep knowledge feeling coupled with inner change may only be events that you see pertaining to other people, like a remote viewer would see.

    I have had sessions of rebirth where I would see what seemed to be past lives with violent deaths. A few of those. I was wondering why the main theme of those lives was violent deaths. Then i realised that reliving it and understanding allowed me to forgive schizophrenics who killed in delirium, bunch of brutes killing a slave forgiven for their spiritual retardation, a javelot in my back in a war where truly nobody is at falt on a personal basiss, just a group karma. And everytime emotional release plus resolution of the questions i had while dying: why? And hatred gone. So yes, past lives acknowledgement may be helpful.
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    If only modern Psychiatry would recognise and embrace past life regression...
    [...]
    What a beautiful world this will be... I agree.

    The trouble is that psychiatric "schools"/factories are funded by Fatpharma to produce pill pushers for profit... and, so any successful therapies is considered enemy camp to be eradicated via ridicule and railroaded as fringe and tin foil hat pipe dreams.
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    "Forget the past. The vanished lives of all men are dark with many shames. Human conduct is ever unreliable until anchored in the Divine. Everything in future will improve if you are making a spiritual effort now."

    Sri Yukteswar

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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    "Forget the past. The vanished lives of all men are dark with many shames. Human conduct is ever unreliable until anchored in the Divine. Everything in future will improve if you are making a spiritual effort now."

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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    "Forget the past. The vanished lives of all men are dark with many shames. ...
    [...]
    If one "forgets" the past, one is bound to repeat its mistakes... so, why not learn something from that past?

    Of course, in order to learn from that past, one has to know what that past is, right?
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    DNA is right , saying "You do not need to know where you have been. You do not need to know any of your past lives "

    My only objection is the underlined part of the statement below.

    DNA observation; "You do not need to know any of your past lives in order to attempt to focus on and have the best life you are presently living.

    If we can answer the below pictures's presentation of The Best life you are presently living for those people, I would go with that hypothesis.

    If we relatively have a better life than other people, it doesn't mean that we are awarded from our past life's suffering/experiences or others suffering now because of the their past life's punishment.

    If we insist to focus on ourselves to judge existence of life we wouldn't go anywhere.
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    "Forget the past. The vanished lives of all men are dark with many shames. ...
    [...]
    If one "forgets" the past, one is bound to repeat its mistakes... so, why not learn something from that past?

    Of course, in order to learn from that past, one has to know what that past is, right?
    That's a common, yet two sided consideration. There is also the concept that improving something over a failure quite often uses a single failure point as a basis to forming the improvement which may have critical ties or dependencies to other areas that are not "improved upon" - always based on the past, around a specific failure. There's another concept that says greater improvements can be made be clearing out the thing that failed completely and starting over from scratch in concept. This doesn't mean you ignore the failure, but it does mean you don't build solutions around it - you keep it at an arms length for loose reference only.

    I'm not denying your post, but rather just adding to it.
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    Default Re: Past Lives: The Basics (and, Regression do's and don'ts)

    Sometimes it's useful, even important, to look behind you now and again.
    In seeing the paths you once have walked, is to learn how you reached where you stand today.
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Sometimes it's useful, even important, to look behind you now and again.
    In seeing the paths you once have walked, is to learn how you reached where you stand today.
    Often we only recognize how far we have to go, and not how far we have actually come. I agree a look back every once in a while is a good thing, as long as you can faithfully recognize what you see.
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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Sometimes it's useful, even important, to look behind you now and again.
    In seeing the paths you once have walked, is to learn how you reached where you stand today.
    Often we only recognize how far we have to go, and not how far we have actually come. I agree a look back every once in a while is a good thing, as long as you can faithfully recognize what you see.
    Even Recent life's past is hard to remember for most of us, isn't it , too much forcing to look further back?
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    The whole point of reincarnation is the expansion and evolution of consciousness. Remembering past memories is not a necessity... Even though it might be very interesting. Perhaps one day full remembering will be possible again, if it will be deemed truly necessary. However sometimes remembering and clearing some things can be helpful as humans we tend to have unsolved issues with traumas and karmic ties. It helped me to understand some things about my past lives too, but the process of becoming a fully self-realized human being is a long and often a cumbersome process. Then again, it is what it is.

    If humans collectively learn from their mistakes and start to get rid of their violent and greedy ways then suffering will not be as necessary for growth as it is now. Interestingly the game of life seems to have been made harder here on Earth as we have the "good guys" incarnating with the "bad guys". Bad guys would be the psychopaths rising to power almost everywhere. Some choose to serve only themselves and some choose to serve others... Polarization of the soul.
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    I personally think time has a lot to do with understanding reality.
    I do not think time is the constant for a soul's understanding of the living reality.
    Think about string theory for a moment.
    If every choice you have made has in fact had all of it's possibilities parlayed into actions then each and every incarnation is a series of potentials that have been played out, and the "you" that you think you are is quite different to a soul who is aware of all the potentials you are.
    So given that we would be hard pressed to understand all of the potentials of the present incarnation we are currently active in, how are we going to try and understand our past lives and all of their potentials?
    The answer here is that we can not.
    In a soul's perspective the history we know and think we understand is but a cell in a living body of billions in so far as any one incarnation goes.
    Now compound that by however many incarnations you have had.
    In my opinion we lack the mental capability to come even close to understanding our various past lives.
    Further more those past lives mean next to nothing without proper context.


    Now enter the very real possibility that there is no past and there is no future, that in a soul's point of view all of these incarnations are happening simultaneously, and like a extremely long equation, our present incarnation is affecting our other incarnations through the effects, actions and understandings we either choose or do not choose to undertake.


    My point isn't that we should attempt to understand all of this, but rather understand that we really can't understand all of this.
    The conquering of self is truly greater than were one to conquer many worlds.
    Edgar Cayce

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    The whole point of reincarnation is the expansion and evolution of consciousness.
    I doubt reincarnation has much to do with evolution -- we forget more than we learn.
    I suspect the purpose of reincarnation for an individual is relief from the boredom of limitlessness.
    On a species basis, it's probably more about conquest of lower dimensions (and the entities that would stop us).

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    I havent remembered any past lives, but have been told of a couple. I would like to learn more as well as remember what has happened between lives, out of curiousity and for helping me deal with any 'historical' past life issues in this current life.

    So, is there a way/method, that a normal person can use to remember past lives without paying for a regressionist? I would really like to remember to 'know' what's going on.
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    I have my own little saying I use to help keep me on track.

    Keep one eye on the past, one eye on the future and your heart and mind in the present moment.
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
    When you express from a loving heart in the now moment, You create a loving future.

    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


    Peace

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    My take on it is that it is not about forgetting the past but 'letting go' of the past. You still have your experiences, those that have shaped you into what you are today, you don't need to constantly relive those experiences in your mind - that's what prevents you living now.

    Clearly I'm talking about this current life, so rather off-topic really. Sorry.

    I have mixed feelings about doing past life regressions, I've never done any but do have a curiosity. I believe they could be either/both helpful and/or detrimental, depending on what might be revealed and how you could process that information in the here and now.

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