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2nd November 2017 22:22
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Canada's Governor General Made Some Statements About God, Oh My
If I say "God of Christ and Abraham is not real and we must reconstruct misinformation" , mass could laugh at me but if a former astronaut and high ranking governmental figure say this, people get crazy.
For now, all news videos disappeared from the web only few lines to criticize her position for religions. below link probably is temporary , if you can download please do that.
Her speech had a scattering, pinball machine trajectory. In the space of a few sentences it went from climate change, to the origin of life, to newspaper horoscopes; from dicta on the “denialism” sometimes confronting the first, to the religious understandings of the second, and the vacuous absurdity of the third. The problem with this neat triad is that, while a tirade against horoscopy might be perfectly agreeable to most everyone (being a machine gun attack on a whole field of straw men — who reads horoscopes save for feeble amusement?), assertions on life and climate are on another plane entirely.
Her quote: “And we are still debating and still questioning whether life was a divine intervention or whether it was coming out of a natural process let alone, oh my goodness, a random process.”
In this wonderfully diverse Canada that Ms. Payette now represents, was it her intent to ridicule the religious beliefs of so very many faiths whose cosmologies include a divine creation, some as myth, some as a fact of faith — as opposed to a fact of science? It may be easy to flip a rhetorical knuckle at, say, Christian fundamentalists (almost a hobby for present-day secularists), but is the Governor General really comfortable with derogating the mythos of so many of the world’s religions, and implicitly at least, leaving them on a plane with the trivial fortune-cookie elaborations of the daily horoscope? Indeed, what of First Nations’ and other Aboriginals’ cosmologies, their spiritual practices, their belief in the “sacredness” of nature? Are these acceptable truths or facts in a scientific age?
Before her current life as Canada's Governor General, Julie Payette was an astronaut —which is presumably why she was the keynote speaker at Canada's ninth annual Science Policy Convention in Ottawa on Wednesday. Her speech was mostly about how good science is and how it should be promoted for the good of society, which is the sort of thing you would expect an astronaut to say at a science conference.
Payette's comments appear to have been mostly well-received by the audience, but some critics online have suggested that some of the things she said were unbecoming of her office. Specifically, she made two facetious remarks suggesting that all debate about both climate change and God's relationship to the origins of biological life were scientifically settled. The headline: Governor General of Canada declares man-made climate change real; the God of Abraham, not so much.
http://www.canada.com/technology/mur...560/story.html
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/a...-and-god-oh-my
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3rd November 2017 03:38
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