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    Just found out what SMART (anythings) stands for:

    S Secret
    M Military
    A Armament
    R Residential
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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    The guy in the video in post #390 gets his MHz and GHz muddled up which is not something anyone with a genuine understanding of RF would do. It wasn't a slip of the tongue as he makes another error based on that one later in the video.

    Anyone with even a passing familiarity with RF engineering would see this guy is repeating something he doesn't understand as he makes other silly statements too.

    I very much doubt he can tell the difference between an electron and a moron.

    It's exactly this sort of tech-sounding nonsense that just sows confusion and fear amongst the general public.
    Those of us not familiar with the subject could use some help here if you could elucidate your above comment. It would help me! Thanks...

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    I think you miss the point of his video. He is confessing he is installing dangerous devices to mankind.
    His tech data of 1.5 to 2.8 mega hertz is basically correct re 3 and 4 g and his data of 30 giga hertz of 5g is basically correct also.
    He's a tech install boy not a electrical engineer. No need to make this guy wrong for his video. He is right it is going to be very dangerous for mankind. Do you disagree?

    Last edited by Constance; 2nd July 2019 at 23:08. Reason: fixed youtube formatting :)

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    @Franny and James: Hope my explanation below helps.

    The statement that any cell phones now or ever have used 1.5 MHz to 2.8 MHz is completely WRONG! It is nowhere near signals used for mobile phones/cell phones. The AM/medium wave band ends at 1.6 MHz, the 160m ham radio band is 1.8 to 2 MHz. These frequencies are completely useless for handheld devices as the wavelengths are far too long and antennas are impossibly unwieldy.

    The frequencies used by 3G and 4G are between 850 MHz and 2.1 GHz. You can look this stuff up in frequency allocation tables. This guy is talking complete nonsense to say 1.5 to 2.8 MHz is the old 3G and 4G frequency bands. No real RF engineer would get that wrong. What's he up to?

    Therefore his assertions that 5G is "15,000 times stronger" is wrong on two counts. If by "stronger" he means higher in frequency, yes, but from about 1 GHz to 30 GHz or so which is only 30 times, and has nothing to do with "strength". A 4G cell tower is about 200 watts. A 4G phone is less than one watt. If he's right then using a 30MWatt transmitter is completely impractical on many levels, and a 15kW handset - well a big electric cooker is about 10kW, so not sure where the batteries for a 15kW phone are going to be located! You see - it's nonsense.

    Regardless of whether 5G is dangerous or not, it doesn't help when folks like the guy in the video (post #390) wade in spreading muddled nonsense to confuse the public. Unfortunately technical matters like this are not widely understood, and this sort of B.S. just gets unquestionably repeated. . We should be better than that on this forum. We're supposed to question everything - remember...?

    The technical details are easy to get right, and if these are wrong it doesn't lend credibility to the rest of the content.
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    Yes He did say 1.5 to 2.8mega hertz and he is not right it is 1500 mega hertz to 2800 mega hertz, in the lower band. And with a bit of research there are bands quite a bit above 30 giga hertz. Between 450 MHz and 5 GHz is the traditional turf for mobile radio (2G, 3G, 4G, 5G, and all smartphones and traditional cellphones). Technicians call this area of electromagnetic spectrum Microwave. 2G has started with 900 MHz, and added 1800 and 1900 MHz early in the 1990s. 3G had roughly 2000 MHz, 4G ranged from 450 MHz (just recently permitted) up to 2600 MHz. 5G will use the same spectrum as 4G, fill some gaps that have not been used at present, take over some of the 4G spectrum, and add something in the 3500 MHz. Area.

    It does appear as early as 2003 they agreed on 5g: The new millimeter-wave
    (MMW) radio services which in October 2003, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
    established together with the allocation, band plan, service rules, and technical standards will promote the
    private sector development and use of the “millimeter wave” spectrum in the 71-76 GHz, 81-86 GHz and
    92-95 GHz bands (“E” bands.) It is expected that the millimeter-wave radios can find numerous indoor
    and outdoor applications in residential areas, offices, conference rooms, corridors, and libraries. It is
    suitable for in-home applications such as audio/video transmission, desktop connection, and support of
    portable devices while for the outdoor point-to-point microwave systems, connecting cell-sites at one mile
    distance or closer, it will offer a huge backhaul capacity.
    The 60-GHz band has been allocated worldwide for unlicensed wireless-communications systems. In
    2001, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) set aside a continuous block of 7 GHz of
    spectrum between 57 and 64 GHz for wireless communications.

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    Here's Dr. Horton's interview with Alred Lambremont. She's been a Targeted Individual for years now who has been gathering evidence to use in court. Successfully, too. Get a load of her shared information!



    There's a chart where it's predicted that there will be about 100 million Americans left in 6 years! Evil.....That's murder that they're talking about....

    5G will be such a nightmare...

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    5G affects sweat ducts




    More on sweat ducts


    5G Technology: Potential Risks To Human Health: Excerpts From Scientific Conference
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    Why State and Local Governments Are Prevented from Rejecting 5G Wireless

    RT Technocracy
    July 3, 2019



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    Telecommunications Act of 1996 prevents states and local governments from regulating the placement of any cell towers, regardless of environmental effects, including health problems.

    The FCC has been captured by the wireless industry and are deceiving the public.

    However, insurance companies are not fooled by safety reports, funded by the telecom industry, and refuse to offer product liability insurance policies that cover cell phone radiation.

    5G Wireless: A Dangerous ‘Experiment on Humanity’
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    Scientists, environmental groups, doctors and citizens around the world are appealing to all governments to halt telecommunications companies’ deployment of 5G (fifth generation) wireless networks, which they call “an experiment on humanity and the environment that is defined as a crime under international law.”

    Research has shown that wireless radiation can cause DNA damage, neuropsychiatric effects and other health problems. RT America’s Michele Greenstein joins Rick Sanchez to discuss.


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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    5G affects sweat ducts




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    5G Technology: Potential Risks To Human Health: Excerpts From Scientific Conference
    Wow that was an interesting video! Thank you!
    So they plan to say the human skin is a limb of the body so its ok to have higher microwave effects. They obviously know that the skin is the biggest organ to remove toxins. So lets just shut it all down. They are quite willing to have everybody die a toxic death with these freqs being absorbed by the sweat glands. And 94ghz is the frequency the army uses in their crowd control to make people feel they are on FIRE!! Alot of data here.

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    Listening to Dave Janda talking about 5G with expert Frank Clegg:





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    still catching up from coming off the hike, just realized this came out in May and is already posted here.)
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    https://studylib.net/doc/18737954/po...r-applications

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    For example, in a typical cell tower, the BTS load
    itself requires only about 2 to 3 kW, but up to 12 kW
    generator sets are being used to meet the occasional
    peak power requirements for starting air conditioning
    units. Therefore, as the use of the high ambient
    switching radio equipment increases, the size of the
    generator set required to power future telecom cell
    towers will be reduced substantially.

    https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-powe...one-tower-site
    Quote So an assessment of 4–6 kW per site with an average of 5 would be ok.
    For free society!

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    Cleaver state of California...disguising the 5G towers as natural environment.

    The first images appears to be the "newest" type. Prior generation were more obvious.
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    Calling all Canadians-------Stop 5G - Petition

    Go here and sign--please.
    https://www.change.org/p/leah-presley-stop-5g

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    YouTube begins banning critics of 5G cell towers to cover up the crimes of the telecommunications industry

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-...ry-crimes.html


    YouTube begins banning critics of 5G cell towers to cover up the crimes of the telecommunications industry

    Tuesday, July 30, 2019 by: Ethan Huff

    (Natural News) A family from Sacramento, California, is being punished by the “gods” of Big Tech for sounding the alarm about the dangers associated with 5G “small cell” towers, which are beginning to pop up in residential neighborhoods all across the country.

    After a 5G small cell tower was recently installed directly outside their home, the Davidsons took to social media to warn that the transmission device was causing both electromagnetic sensitivity and microwave sickness, two conditions that are also associated with exposure to “smart” electric meters.

    The Davidson family also created the 5G Awareness Now blog, as well as a GoFundMe page, both of which gained so much widespread support that the tech giants decided to throw a wrench into things.

    According to reports, the Davidson family’s YouTube page was recently suspended for pretty much no reason other than the information they were sharing threatens the telecom industry, which now admits that there’s no evidence to suggest that 5G is biologically safe for humans.

    “Verizon is currently installing antennas on top of light poles all throughout my neighborhood,” the Davidsons explain on their GoFundMe page. “One of these antennas was installed just 45 feet from our family’s home.”

    “Shortly after the antenna was installed, several members of my family, including my two young nieces, began experiencing health problems,” the family adds. “The shielding significantly reduced our exposure but it is still very high. I have been in contact with several members of my community that have also experienced health problems they attribute to the antennas.”


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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    There's a chart where it's predicted that there will be about 100 million Americans left in 6 years! Evil.....That's murder that they're talking about....
    That's here:
    Bizarrely, it forecasts the USA to have a population of just under 100 million in 2025. The current population is just over 325 million. It offers no explanation. Many European countries drop drastically as well, while most Asian countries are more or less the same.

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    The forecast of Deagel is about migration and an explanation is given way down at the bottom of the chart:

    The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States


    Scaremongering will not help us. But agreed, the health threats because of 5G and many other developments are very worrying.

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    Wow that forecasted US population decline has grabbed my attention. One or two other countries take a sizeable hit in population too:

    Germany: 80 -> 20 million
    UK: 65 -> 14 million

    The explantions are blood curdling:

    The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. In the past, specially in the 20th century, the key factor that allowed the USA to rise to its colossus status was immigration with the benefits of a demographic expansion supporting the credit expansion and the brain drain from the rest of the world benefiting the States. The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union's population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say "Twice the pride, double the fall"? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union's one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result.

    The Demographic crisis in the former Soviet Union countries has extended for over two decades, if we accept that it ended early in this decade (2010s). The demographic crisis will hit the World in the near future and is projected to last between three and eight decades more or less depending on technological breakthrough and environmental issues. The aftermath is more likely a frozen picture with the population numbers staying the same for a very, very long period of time. The countries forecast population numbers do reflect birth/deaths but also migratory movements. Many countries are going to increase their gross population due to immigration while their native population may shrink.

    Over the past two thousand years we have witnessed the Western civilization built around the Mediterranean Sea shifting to Northern Europe and then by the mid 20th century shifting to an Atlantic axis to finally get centered into the States in the past 30 years. The next move will see the civilization being centered in Asia with Russia and China on top. Historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians. When the transition from rural areas to large cities happened in Europe many people unable to accept the new paradigm killed themselves. They killed themselves by a psychological factor. This is not mainstream but it is true. A new crisis joins old, well known patterns with new ones.

    Sorry to disappoint many of you with our forecast. It is getting worse and worse every year since the beginning of the pre-crisis in 2007. It is already said that this website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government in any way, shape or form. We are not a death or satanic cult or arms dealers as some BS is floating around the internet on this topic. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a model whether flawed or correct. It is not God's word or a magic device that allows to foresee the future.

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    From Jim Stone:

    FIRST HEALTH EFFECTS REPORTED FOR 5G

    From MDsafetech

    The response? It is legal, and within legal guidelines, so stuff it!

    The first reported injury of 5G in a news report comes from Switzerland, where 5G has been launched in 102 locations. As soon as the antennas were installed, several residents and entire families in the heart of Geneva reported similar unusual symptoms of loud ringing in the ear, intense headaches, unbearable earaches, insomnia, chest pain, fatigue and not feeling well in the house.

    29-year-old Geneva resident, Johan Perruchoud, called up Swisscom and was told that indeed the 5G cell towers were activated on the same day he began to feel the symptoms. When others called Swisscom they were told everything is legal and within guidelines.

    Dr. Bertrand Buchs, who has called for a 5G moratorium, states he has seen more and more patients with similar symptoms. He notes,
    "In this case, our authorities are going against common sense ... we risk experiencing a catastrophe in a few years... no serious study exists yet, which is not surprising when we know that this technology was developed in China, then to the United States. In Switzerland, we could open a line for people who feel bad, listen to these complaints and examine them. Our country has the means and the skills. The debate must be launched because the story is not about to end."
    These stories parallel that of Anne Mills, author of "All EMF'd Up", who suffered wireless radiation poisoning in Germany when her husband was stationed there for work.

    She wrote a diary with identical symptoms of those in Geneva. Her concerns, like those in Geneva, were dismissed. She consulted with German physician, Dr Horst Eger, to confirm her symptoms were that of microwave illness seen in military radar personnel and those working on microwave towers.

    Jim Stone's comment: Gee, our emissions are within "safe legal guidelines" so if they make you sick, there's something wrong with your genes!
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    Alex Jones did a full show on the dangers of 5G. It was even bumped by Drudge. That = several million people are now aware of it!

    https://www.infowars.com/watch/?vide...7cf1001483552f

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    #Stop5G Related Scientific (Peer Reviewed) Sources Mainstream Does NOT Want (You) To Investigate!

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