Stop 5G before it's irreversible!

[ExomatrixTV]

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[ExomatrixTV]

It Will Be Done By 2030! [David Icke]

[onawah]

Can water REALLY be used as a form of EMF protection?
Lloyd Burrell | ElectricSense
From the email update today 12/3/19

"In 2005, a young lady shared with Gary how her mother had been healed of cancer by eating a raw food diet.

After being trained and taught by this young lady all about raw food preparation, Gary started to learn about nutrition.

He also started to investigate natural healing techniques, essential oils, and other alternatives to the mainstream health and nutrition and industry.

‘Over the course of several years of studying… I was just focused on so many other things and water was just there. It was invisible.’

But then in 2009 Gary came across a book written by Viktor Schauberger, a naturalist from the early 1900s.

Viktor came from many generations of Austrian foresters, and all of his brothers went away to college to learn other mainstream sciences. But Viktor felt compelled to dwell on the forest and observe water in its natural environment.

He would spend time watching water flow at night and during the day, and he became very insightful.

He began to visualize the invisible properties of water.

That began for Viktor, a lifelong relationship with understanding water and developing technologies that could bring water back to its natural state, once it’s been corrupted.

This discovery inspired Gary to pursue Viktor’s work.

Gary has now taken on this vision of bringing back water to its natural healing state.

Gary says, ‘The telecoms knew they were creating devices that would emit frequencies and energies that were going to impact the health of people everywhere. They wrote it into the legislation to make sure that health issues would not be considered when placing cell phone towers. My place has been not to fight the system.’

For the last few years Gary has been travelling the world, creating and developing implements and devices that can be used in the home to bring water back to its natural state so that we can protect ourselves.

For my next interview, I'm delighted to welcome researcher and inventor of water structuring and EMF protection devices, Gary Greenfield.

See https://www.electricsense.com/water-emf-protection/

Lloyd Burrell
ElectricSense
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[ExomatrixTV]

"Let’s talk 5G, and the problems it will bring".

[quote]: "Due especially to a growing protest against the “next generation” wireless technology, most folks have seen/heard something about 5G. Be careful what you look/listen for.

The Massachusetts Legislature leads the nation in processing bills on mobile phone/Wi-Fi radiation, at least two on 5G. It’s a complex issue, however, and to make matters worse, conflicting and erroneous information, omissions, and sometimes propaganda, exist alongside fact.

Not to say 5G isn’t dangerous, but confusion makes protests dangerous. Most involve “high-band” frequencies, roughly 30 gigahertz (GHz) and up, called “millimeter wave” (mmW = 10 millimeters or less wavelength).

Usually neglected is that there isn’t a fixed “5G spectrum.” 5G will encompass mid- and low-band frequencies, long in use with 2G-4G. Depending on many factors, including locale, any combination of 3G-5GmmW frequencies can co-exist.

One major development in the 5G network, drawing protest attention, is densified antenna location to accommodate the short range of mmW — but also to increase flexibility and improve overall 3G/4G performance.

Officially, 5G with mmW is being tested in urban areas, its most likely destination. Sacramento, for example. But other cities, including Santa Rosa, have forestalled 5G plans on precautionary principles.

Here and there, people are claiming adverse effects when “5G” is turned on, implying mmW. This is unlikely. Most likely, 5G infrastructure, meaning antenna density, is being confused with mmW radiation.

Radiation meters are used to support claims. Existing meters, ranging from around $120 to $400, top out at 8 GHz. In the US, cellular frequencies range from 600 megahertz to 2.5 GHz. WiFi is typically 2.4 and 5 GHz. Verizon mmW is 28 and 39 GHz.

Thus, current meters can’t read mmW. A high frequency meter costs around $150,000. Anyone claiming harm from mmW radiation better have one on hand.

Protesters say 5GmmW hasn’t been safety tested, which industry and the Federal Communications Commission openly admit. The reason, says the FCC, is that, based on the rationale used for earlier G’s, 5G poses no risk. That is, if it doesn’t heat you, it can’t harm you. Power-level exposure limits worldwide are based on this.

Independent science showing harm at non-heating levels raises concern whether previous G’s have been (properly) tested. Officially, this is dismissed one way or another. “No convincing evidence exists, but we’re keeping an eye on it.”

We can differentiate by type of effect, however. Known effects of mmW (a very limited volume of science papers) are different from 2G-4G effects reported by people and dismissed science. 5G-harm stories consistently report symptoms existing before anyone even heard of 5G. Long before.

Of note, old, official reports exist, including the 1981 WHO document, “Environmental Health Criteria: Radiofrequency and Microwaves. Biologic Effects and Health Hazards of Microwave Radiation: Proceedings on International Symposium 1973.” Others include NASA, Defense Intelligence Agency, Naval Military Research Institute and EPA (3).

While most 5G protests focus on antennas, a massive satellite program proceeds. Up to 20,000 satellites to blanket the globe. Elon Musk’s SpaceX has dibs on 12,000. If they get up there and then issues are revealed, oh boy.

NASA, NOAA, meteorologists, and radio astronomers have issued valid mmW concerns. The FCC dismisses them, too.

Pollution. Some 150 tons of refined kerosene and 340 tons of liquid oxygen per Musk launch (60 satellites, 400 kg each). Do the math, even for 12,000. There seems to be no concern for consequences, such as potential damage to the ozone layer or atmospheric CO2. Not to mention, oxygen that could have been breathed.

In most cautionary discussions, 5G or otherwise, the paramount aspect gets paltry attention: Threat to ecosystem. Almost all species. For example, in the last quarter century or so, coinciding closely with the introduction of 2G, 75 percent of the global biomass of insects has disappeared. There are, no doubt, several way-of-life factors. But insects are highly susceptible to telecom/Wi-Fi microwave. Like bees. [unquote].

Source: if it does not work in Europe use this

[onawah]

See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1326336
and:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1326339

Posted by East Sun (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by East Sun (here)
But what can we actually do? If you know so much , tell me what we can actually do?

It's easy to say do something but spell out what you propose to do?

Lets hear it? What?

Onawah & East Sun do you have any idea how much work & effort I put in to >>> this <<< ?

Thank you ExomatricTV. I really do not but I appreciate everything you have done, more than I have for sure.

I really don't know what I could do, so am asking.

[ExomatrixTV]

@onawah ... am not repeating the obvious, that the question "what can I do?" or "what can we do?" is already answered multiple times by me & many others too ... that's all

Sometimes I have the feeling that people ask the question because they assume "we can do nothing" or are overwhelmed how big it is, what is coming.

[onawah]

I'm certain that's part of it, but my take on it is that often people just don't have time or are too overwhelmed to wade through all the information to find the practical, immediate actions that they can take with the limited amount of energy and time that they have.
And it may be that that's taking an oversimplified and naive approach on their part, but people have to start where they are, and hopefully, take it step by step as they are able.
Adding a little compassion to the recipe can work wonders.
As Chris Hedges eloquently puts it, "We don't need leaders, we need movements".
(It's a pity he's bought the global warming lie, but nobody's perfect... )

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Aj1-47VqgOs

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
@onawah ... am not repeating the obvious, that the question "what can I do?" or "what can we do?" is already answered multiple times by me & many others too ... that's all

Sometimes I have the feeling that people ask the question because they assume "we can do nothing" or are overwhelmed how big it is, what is coming.

[DaveToo]

Posted by onawah (here)
Adding a little compassion to the recipe can work wonders.
As Chris Hedges eloquently puts it, "We don't need leaders, we need movements".
(It's a pity he's bought the global warming lie, but nobody's perfect... )

Global warming?
Try 9/11 !!!

Chris Hedges is on my IGNORE LIST, sorry to say.

[onawah]

He's got blind spots, but he does great things too, such as devoting himself to helping prisoners, lots of activism including dangerous demonstrations such as Standing Rock, and I think he sees very clearly when it comes to certain issues, such as those in the 2 videos posted here.

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Adding a little compassion to the recipe can work wonders.
As Chris Hedges eloquently puts it, "We don't need leaders, we need movements".
(It's a pity he's bought the global warming lie, but nobody's perfect... )

Global warming?
Try 9/11 !!!

Chris Hedges is on my IGNORE LIST, sorry to say.

[DaveToo]

Posted by onawah (here)
He's got blind spots, but he does great things too, such as devoting himself to helping prisoners, lots of activism including dangerous demonstrations such as Standing Rock, and I think he sees very clearly when it comes to certain issues, such as those in the 2 videos posted here.

Well Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman have also done some great things but they are also on my IGNORE LIST now.

[onawah]

A lot of times it's "six of one and half dozen of the other", so I try not to throw out the baby with the bathwater .
(Please pardon my cliches.)

[James Newell]

It is MUCH more than just 5G. Electric everything. No more fossil fuels and everyone in cities.
Take it with a grain of salt, and I think the power of NO is a good start to what you can do about it.
https://www.sgtreport.com/videos/
see THE DEMOCRATS IRON CLAD PROMISE, IS HELL ON EARTH

[ExomatrixTV]

5G and AI Everywhere: 2030 Will Be a New World | Jeff Brown | Ep 60 | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tAGeN5lrxws

Technology is advancing faster than ever, and it’s not slowing down. This decade was the era of smart phones, streaming, and the internet of things. But with 5G and AI on the rise, high-tech executive Jeff Brown believes 2030 will be a new world. Brown is an early-stage tech investor and analyst who’s seen the modern technological revolution firsthand. He describes quantum computing as a moon landing and 5G as game-changing. He predicts a near future full of artificial intelligence, self-driving cars, wireless surgeries, genetic healing, cryptocurrencies, and more! But with equal advances in encryption hacking and the AI tracking abilities of Google, Facebook, and even China, we must control our own data!

[ExomatrixTV]

[Hughe]

Could wireless headphones HARM your health? Public health professor warns radiation of AirPods are just as bad

Apple's new iPhone will come with Bluetooth-powered wireless earbuds
Dr Joel Moskowitz of UC Berkeley cites research slamming Bluetooth
He warns even low frequency emissions break down blood-brain barrier

By Mia De Graaf For Dailymail.com
Published: 21:18 GMT, 8 September 2016 | Updated: 17:10 GMT, 14 September 2016

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-just-bad.html

[Nick Matkin]

What? No fear porn about the intense magnetic field created in all modern headphones - even the wired ones - from their very strong neodymium magnets? And people are sticking them right into their ears next to their brains? That explains a lot and is why I always use high-impedance SG Brown headphones from about 1923. Buy yours while you still can before TPTB ban them!

[onawah]

The 5G Roll Out of 20,000 Telecom Satellites
Tuesday, November 12th 2019 at 10:30 am
Written By: Gary Null, PhD and Richard Gale
https://www.greenmedinfo.health/blog...SzJ2WEF5In0%3D


"For years, scientists have warned about the dangers of enormous amounts of debris orbiting our planet. Aside from wrenches and other tools used by astronauts, plastic bags, and yes even a toothbrush, according to the federally-funded Aerospace organization, the greater dangers are obsolete spacecraft, portions of damaged and disabled satellites, rocket fragments, flywheels, and nuclear reactor cores that have broken up or collided with various other objects. Yet even a screwdriver traveling at an average of 17,500 mph, with an impact velocity of 21,000 mph, can be very destructive if it were to crash into a satellite, rendering it inoperable. And this simply adds to more useless junk, now estimated at 128 million small bits of debris under 1cm and the 34,000 larger pieces, floating above our heads. Imagine being hit with a piece of space scrap the size of a sugar cube is "equivalent of standing next to an exploding hand grenade."

A Business Insider story about space debris noted that the US government already tracks 23,000 objects regularly, including China's bus-size Tiangong-1 space station that incinerated in orbit. In February of 2011, a Russian military satellite collided with an American Iridium commercial satellite. The former disintegrated into hundreds of thousands of pieces of debris while the latter spun out of control. Approximately 2,000 of these larger objects are being tracked regularly. Three thousand large objects from the Chinese anti-satellite weapon FY-1C, which the Chinese military deliberately blew up, also have to be routinely monitored. As more and more satellites, space stations, rocket and missile remains, and a variety of other orbiting technologies are shot into space, the more frequent these accidents will occur.

This has raised serious concerns among space agencies that we may be heading towards the creation of a "debris belt" that might lead to a critical climax known as a Kessler Syndrome event. The Kessler Syndrome, named after Donald Kessler, a scientist at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, who warned about such an event in a 1978 paper published in the Journal of Geophysical Research, refers to the exponential increase in space junk leading to a tipping point that would in turn trigger a cascade of collisions between orbiting objects. This could make lower orbital space inaccessible for hundreds of years. In addition, it would dramatically impair, and likely disengage, telecommunication operations, weather forecasting, interfere with airline and GPS navigation, and military and national security surveillance and operations. There are no international treaties in place to deal with this crisis, nor concerted collaborative efforts to limit the further trashing of space. In the meantime the US government spends enormous amounts of money simply monitoring 24/7 potential collisions and to maneuver functioning satellites out of harm's way.

Since the launch of the first satellite, the Soviet Union's Sputnik in 1957, there have only been 8,378 satellites lofted into the heavens thus far. That may not seem to be many over the course six decades, nevertheless the threats posed by space debris is becoming an issue of growing concern as satellite launches steadily increase annually. According to the UN's Office for Outer Space Affairs, there were slightly under 5,000 satellites in the Earth's orbit at the start of 2019. However the Union of Concerned Scientists estimated that only 1,957 of these are actually operative. In other words, over 75 percent of orbiting satellites are revolving clutter.

If some space scientists are worried today about the potential of a Kessler Syndrome cascade, the implementation of 5G technology, the global installation of the "internet of things," is going to accelerate the probability of this catastrophe astronomically.

Speaking before a 5G conference in Oslo last October, United Nation's staff member Claire Edwards warned of the 5G efforts to dramatically colonize the lower orbital space with a minimum of 20,000 5G satellites by 2022. Without our governments' and the Big Telecom Industry's impatience to engulf the planet in 5G, and with the full support of the military and intelligence complexes, there would be absolutely no need for this kind of expansive satellite colonization of the Earth's lower orbit.

Video: 5G Telecommunications Technology in Space: "This is All About Controlling People in ‘Smart Cities'"

Orbiting technologies and satellites are not only threatened by collisions with high velocity cosmic junk. Additional threats, which humans have absolutely no control over, are solar activities such as solar winds, coronal holes, coronal mass ejections or CMEs and solar flares. During the 2003 geomagnetic storm, "10 percent of the world's satellite fleet suffered malfunctions." In a Scientific American article, "Solar Storms: Effects on Satellites," a super solar storm could cause years' worth of damage and wear on a satellite within a few hours. The article states, "a recurrence of the 1859 solar superstorm would be a cosmic Katrina, causing billions of dollars damage to satellites, power grids and radio communications." Financial Times estimated the cost of a plasma storm would be in the trillions and knock out our most critical satellite systems. Such a massive coronal mass ejection from the sun's thermonuclear reactor, known as a Carrington Event and containing up to 10 billion tons of solar plasma, gas and magnetic radiation, would kill the 5G internet. It could be the end game for years before becoming operable again.

The type of satellite that connects signals to your cell phone is a Low Earth Orbit satellite or LEO. These are the most susceptible to impact with space debris. Professor Richard Horne from the British Antarctic Survey, a scientific research project that relies on satellite-generated measurements for monitoring climate changes at the southern pole, has warned that the negligence in the commercial satellite sector, which is betting on gigantic profits from the 5G Dream, could have serious consequences. "People are trying to use more commercial off-the-shelf components," says Prof. Horne, "rather than components made to operate in space." He continues, "many systems have not been tested in a major [solar] storm so there is a lot of uncertainty about what might happen."

Elon Musk's SpaceX is planning to install 12,000 satellites alone, including 1,585 in low earth orbits (LEO) and 7,518 positioned at very low earth orbits (VLEO). He expects to control 50 percent of all internet traffic. Last month, SpaceX widened its ambitions to seek permission to launch an additional 30,000 satellites thereby raising the commercial space industry's total to 53,000 -- twenty-six times more than now orbiting the Earth. The Institute of Electric and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) estimates that the combined mass of Musk's adventure will be ten times greater than the International Space Station. SpaceX is betting on the uncertain promise that when these Tesla Model-3 automobile sized VLEO satellites reach their final days, they will burn up during their descent through the atmosphere before reaching the Earth's surface. The science shows otherwise. Much debris will remain in addition to reaching the Earth's surface.

Besides satellites being damaged and inoperative from space clutter and solar storm events, satellites are not immortal. They have a limited lifespan. An LEO satellite's average life is between 5-8 years above our atmosphere. In other words, starting in another eight years, all of these satellites will need to be replaced, further adding to the ocean of electronic waste. In addition, during the course of their life in orbit, many will malfunction or be damaged and need to be replaced. We have already trashed our oceans, so what is preventing us from doing the same in space?

Furthermore, despite what pro-5G voices wish us to believe, the roll out and ongoing maintenance of the 5G global blanket is not green and climate friendly. The steady launch of thousands of suborbital rockets will "create a persistent layer of black carbon particles in the northern stratosphere that could cause potentially significant changes in the global atmospheric circulation and distributions of ozone and temperature," according to a paper released by the Aerospace Corporation. This will likely deplete the ozone by 1 percent and the polar ozone layer by as much as 6%. The report concludes that "[A]fter one decade of continuous launches, globally averaged radiative forcing from the black carbon would exceed the forcing from the emitted CO2 by a factor of about 10 to the fifth power." Back in 1991, Aleksandr Dunayev at the Russian Space Agency was quoted by the New York Times, if there are "about 300 launches of the space shuttle each year [it] would be a catastrophe and the ozone layer would be completely destroyed." And for several years, even with Musk's Falcon Heavy rocket potentially carrying 100 satellites for a single launch, this would still exceed Dunayev's calculations. In other words, 5G is going to have a perilous carbon footprint at a time when we must drastically reduce our greenhouse gas emissions.

Although there are no conclusive directly caused risks to human health or the environment from orbiting telecom satellites, the entire 5G network will require millions of base stations and an estimated 200 billion transmitting objects blanketing the nations that sign on to this monstrous technological experiment. The number of EMF transmitting objects is expected to increase to over a trillion several years after full deployment. The human and environmental health risks of EMF emitting 5G base stations and transmitters have been reported extensively. Eight years ago the World Health Organization had already classified wireless as a Group 2B carcinogen and further medical evidence continues to pile up. There are now over 10,000 studies supporting the evidence of genetic and cellular damage to humans, animals, insects and plants, a variety of cancers, cardiovascular disease, neuropsychiatric disorders, reproductive dysfunction, and general EMF hypersensitivity symptoms such as chronic headaches, learning difficulties, sleep problems, fatigue and depression, etc.

Government telecommunication departments and the private telecom industry have absolutely no credible independent scientific studies in their arsenal to deny the volumes of evidence against wireless EMF risks; therefore, they follow the all-too-common game of pathological denialism and generate propaganda to attack and denounce 5G's critics as conspiracy alarmists. The International Appeal to Stop 5G now has over 176,000 signatures from scientists, academics, and medical and environmental organizations' advocates representing 208 nations and territories. Yet no precautionary measures, which are recognized by many international laws and treaties, are being followed.

The full assault of 5G is dependent upon the satellite programs from companies such as SpaceX, OneWeb, Boeing, Iridium, Telesat Canada and Amazon collaborating in league with the telecom giants. The commercial space industry is an intricate factor in the 5G infrastructure estimated to be worth $32 billion. The wolves following behind 5G's trashing of space is the recent appearance of a space debris removal industry, which is expected to be valued $2.9 billion by 2022. Key corporate vendors in this emerging business include Airbus, Astroscale, Boeing and Lockheed Martin. In our dystopian civilization, where one technological disaster leads to the creation of another for-profit industry, this is called job growth. Clearly, all the pieces are being put into place for a 5G deep state, a powerful edifice committed to the massive surveillance of every person and human activity.

Gary Null is an internationally recognized thought leader and activist who holds a Ph.D. in human nutrition and public health science and Richard Gall is the Executive Producer for the Progressive Radio Network.

Learn more about the dangers of 5G (and ways to push back) by watching the 5G Crisis Summit, provided entirely for free by Josh Del Sol and Sayer Ji here:
https://the5gsummit.com/?idev_id=20024 "

[onawah]

Archon Artificial Intelligence & 5G Frequency Control [Age Of Truth TV] - STEVEN WHYBROW
12/8/19
(This young man seems to be well-informed and rather wise, especially for someone his age. He's connected a lot of dots.)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nRj3gSY6qDk

"STEVEN WHYBROW is a young British/Austrian Investigative Journalist, Truth and Conspiracy Researcher, Lecturer and 5G activist, from Vienna, Austria.

He has been studying the global conspiracy network and can do lectures in both English and German. How is 5G connected to the demonic inter-dimensional entities also known as the Archons/Jinn, who according to the Gnostics can possess humans, and supposedly also Alien Extra-Terrestrial beings, such as the Reptilians and the Greys, to name a few.

Are these beings in fact connected to Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) or are they actually A.I.? How is A.I. connected to the Illuminati, Secret Societies, U.N. Agenda 21 and the New World Order? AND how is all of this connected to the Climate Change agenda and ultimately to 5G?

An important and informative interview on many controversial topics which ties in to the danger of the roll-out of 5G globally, in association with the "International Appeal To STOP 5G on Earth and in Space".

Steven Whybrow goes in depth. He is the guest on this eye-opening, in-depth and compelling episode of AGE OF TRUTH TV, interviewed by presenter and investigative reporter, Lucas Alexander.

SELECTED TOPICS DISCUSSED:

- 5G ON EARTH AND IN SPACE
- The dangers of electromagnetic radiation and frequencies.
- The KILL GRID.
- Smart Meters and Internet of Things.
- A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) - connecting to the human mind.
- The agenda of total control, surveillance and domination of people on Earth.
- THE NEW WORLD ORDER, The ILLUMINATI & SECRET SOCIETIES.
- THE ARCHONS (Demons, Jinns - the smokeless fire entities).
- Alien beings & Reptilian control.
- Depopulation.
- Mind Control and indoctrination.
- Media manipulation.
- The Divine MASCULINE PRINCIPAL.
- Big Pharma Industry & Health Care vs. Homeopathy.
- U.N. Agenda 21 & U.N. Agenda 2030.
- Space Weaponisation.
- CLIMATE CHANGE & Greta Thunberg.
- Is all this TRUE or not?

....................all this and much more in the hard-talk, table-talk interview with Age Of Truth TV´s Lucas Alexander.


Filmed at the Age Of Truth TV studios,
Copenhagen, Denmark
30 October 2019
WEBSITE FOR The International Appeal To STOP 5G on Earth and in Space:
https://www.5gspaceappeal.org "

[ExomatrixTV]

In the 1970s & 1980s "Microwave Sickness" or "Microwave Syndrome" Symptoms are Known by Government Agencies, Military & Navy! ... Almost all MSM refuse to discuss & study the Declassified Documents showing evidence of this! Why?

[Nick Matkin]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
In the 1970s & 1980s "Microwave Sickness" or "Microwave Syndrome" Symptoms are Known by Government Agencies, Military & Navy! ... Almost all MSM refuse to discuss & study the Declassified Documents showing evidence of this! Why?

Yes, we were warned of this when working on Marconi Marine radar in the 70s.

I never knew anyone who suffered from it because it was caused by working in very high field microwave strengths, many orders of magnitude greater than that which civilians are ever exposed to, so the documents are of limited significance to the general public.

If you have any doubt, do some research into the health of those living near or working on civilian airports to see what health problems you'll find from the high-power radar equipment. Or for that matter people living around the Crystal Palace TV transmitter in south London. Let us know what health effects you can expose. I'll be surprised if you find any because civilians end even military personnel are now normally kept away from such strong fields.