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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    I just looked at a movie called Kill the messenger about Garry Webb and his exposure of the CIA involvement in importing in mass drugs in America through Nicaragua during the war there (which was also pushed by the CIA) and the subsequent suicide of Garry with two gun shots in his head - i did not know that you can shoot your head twice - it is so depressing.
    I have his book, Dark Alliance. It's a lengthy read but it's great, he names names and explains everything in intimate details. In the book he talks about how he was warned by a colleague from the beginning to leave it alone and that others have died investigating the contra. Rick Ross (not the rapper) is somewhat of a legend, he was one of the biggest coke dealers in the 80s. He wasn't aware of the CIA connection till Webb interviewed him in prison. Check out some of Ross' interviews on youtube. He's not an idiot. He's very well spoken and naturally intelligent.

    Regarding the topic: I'm not worried about 5G.
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    Quote Posted by James Newell (here)
    I didn't say it was 5G bob I said microwaves.
    Most of the early 5G roll-outs are in the range of between 1 GHz and 6 GHz (Reference.)

    Other 5G equipment might operate between 0.6 GHz and up to 60 to 80 GHz (Reference.)

    According to Wikipedia:
    Quote Microwaves are a form of electromagnetic radiation with wavelengths ranging from about one meter to one millimeter; with frequencies between 300 MHz (1 m) and 300 GHz (1 mm).
    Thus the term "microwaves" is a fairly loose term, that covers a wide range of frequencies, from below the low end of 5G to above the high end. All proposed 5G bands are within the broad range referred to as "microwaves."

    More or less any frequency of electromagnetic radiation can injure or kill you. It depends on the amplitude.

    It's like water -- too little and you die of thirst, perhaps in the Sierra desert, or too much and you drown, perhaps in the Pacific ocean.

    Some frequencies I value highly, such as the frequency of the range of light that my eyes can sense (so I can see my computer screen, for example) or the frequencies that are essential to maintaining my heart beating. No doubt there are some other frequencies that I ignore. But in any case, for any frequency, I don't want too much, for too long, and for the useful frequencies, I don't want to be overly deprived.

    Some of us try to research what we write about, before writing. Some of us prefer to monger fear, using half baked research.

    I encourage the former.

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    Does anyone have any information on the devices used by the military which are used to prevent (jam?) cell phone communications. It's basically used to stop IEDs from being remotely detonated. I don't remember where I've seen it.

    Apparently those devices are indeed harmful and the troops that carry them on patrol come back with health issues.
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    Bill I most appreciated your concerns about 5G. The sun emits electromagnetic energy at a higher density from a very wide spectrum, and there are many discussions about what happens on earth with sunspots, changes in the earth's magnetic field and reports of heart attacks, earthquakes, extreme weather anomalies, volcanoes erupting.. EMF

    The point is that we are being bathed continually, and we are experiencing variabilities from the sun across all the frequencies that would be emitted by 5G microwaves (28 gigahertz, 60 gigahertz are the two bands) and when we move around in and out of the sunlight, walking or riding, or under trees in and out of shade, we are duplicating conditions that come from average power level transmitters.

    Here is a reference: https://www.windows2universe.org/sun..._overview.html

    Quote Your eyes tell you that the Sun obviously delivers energy to Earth in the form of visible light. I

    f you think about it a bit, especially in terms of the choices you make about UV-A and UV-B protection when you shop for sunscreen or sunglasses, you'll also realize that you know that the Sun also bathes our planet in ultraviolet "light" or radiation.

    The Sun, in fact, emits radiation across most of the electromagnetic spectrum... from high-energy X-rays to ultra-long wavelength radio waves.
    The power density at sea level gives us about 1000 watts per square meter. The saturation of a 5G system 100 feet away from the antenna is 0.0017 watts. We have to take adequate protection from the sun, or we overheat, or we burn through the UV part of the wideband spectrum. We have to take protection visually because the high power can damage photo receptors in the eye. If we put a magnifying glass to increase the power to a smaller spot than 1000 watts/sq meter we get a burn..

    Most people aren't living less than 100 feet from a 5G antenna and never will. So they just won't be blasted from cell towers.

    My worry from any electromagnetics is when there are multi-path reflections and constructive and destructive electromagnetic waves interact in tissue. Tom Bearden calls it a scalar interferometer weapon where two transmitter beams out-of-phase at the target WILL destroy. Is that fear porn, I think so but it is truth in mathematical ideals only; the fear porn aspect is that such can be built deliberately and deployed repeatedly with accuracy. The reality is the waves cannot remain precisely out-of-phase at the target. The mathematically correct out-of-phase concept requires precise power match, precise frequency match, and precise out-of-phase alignment... and when those conditions happen, a scalar buzz-saw effect happens, death happens, destruction happens..

    So the relevance to 5G or ANY electromagnetics, and I agree with your foundation warning, but the foundation is of a different house, houses built on incomplete information which don't account for the realities of how electromagnetics is generated, how it propagates, how it reflects and bounces.. The reality is we are all more experiencing electromagnetic NOISE (noise as in so many variable signals coming in from so many directions, so many frequencies, looking at the spectrum it shows up as random). When we are left with a random saturation of electromagnetic noise, the only thing we can do to qualitatively analyze is to look at the power level. Power levels then become the measure of destruction.

    Let's look at a piece of random data which has been used to give a case for damage from electromagnetics. There was an experiment to create a killing at a distance using ultra-violet light as the carrier, and two sets of cell cultures.. One culture was diseased, the other healthy.. the experiment was setup that the unhealthy culture could "beam" its UV radiation of a very very low level to the healthy culture, and guess what, the healthy culture picked up the disease.. That lead to the "science" of weapons development or death rays and created a whole believer group that "they are after us because they can kill us remotely with disease". The reality is appropriate systems can be designed and deployed to alleviate any such damage. Can such be created tho to effect the masses ? No because one would need a properly designed cell culture system placed with a foot or two of a person, and most obviously a person could would notice that such a petri-dish is present..

    With the above psychological trigger mechanism implanted in society's psyche now a person has been prep'd to receive "fear porn" at least from that type of disease beaming - lets carry that into immunizations/vaccinations.. Can a deviant scientist weapons designer create a microscopic bug/virus which contains the setup from the infected culture, and make a bio-photonic molecule system that can be put into a vaccine, absolutely. And would it use "electromagnetics" to convey it's dastardly effects? Absolutely. Would one have a way to protect against such, not easily.

    A lay person hearing of such and hearing there is electromagnetics causing cell death conveying disease would get really in fear when they hear that there is no protection for such except to not get vaccinated - are all vaccines setup that way? Who knows? Fear porn? Can one then link all electromagnetics into death and destruction? A lay person uninformed most likely would feel that way. Would an enlightened person then ask, well how did the vaccine create the damage, was there a bio-photonic particle induced into the vaccine, do we have a way of testing for it.

    With communications types of electromagnetics of about 450 megahertz and upwards to about 100 gigahertz the wavelengths are short enough that signals coming in from multiple directions can bounce and a condition called phase cancelling can happen, randomly just as how Tom Bearden pointed out in his scalar interferometer weapon system. The key word is random.

    One then looks at the power level to see just what level of destruction or disruption will happen. The argument then gets back to, aren't we already dealing with scalar induced destruction and disruption and the the answer is yes, and it starts from the biggest transmitter of all, the Sun.

    Did more aberration feelings happen with satellite to ground beaming of television. Absolutely. I noted it immediately when sat-tv went live. I posted a section on how people could create a counter-measure for such.

    And then that leaves us with power levels. And trying to determine the saturation point and the statistical possibility of x percent of incoming shorter electromagnetic waves in the spectrum from 450 megahertz through 100 gigahertz is actually present in the environment. That is an unknown at the point. The total emissions could be determined by looking at the existing microwave point to point systems currently in there around cities, and in the country-side. I studied the AT&T long lines point to point systems years ago, and noted "sensations" when getting near where the beams came close to the ground (due to the visual horizon being reached) and indeed there was some of the phase cancelling effect happening, and a bio-active effect noted.

    What happens with a living bio-system is this as best as I can determine. The nervous system resets to a higher threshold. Somewhat like this analogy should be reasonably familiar with people.. A person living out in the wilderness notes when the wind blows, the tree leaves rustle, and maybe a brook has some water.. That is our background threshold.. Take that person and go into the city, and there is so much chaos the person in the wilderness environment will be quite uncomfortable, in fact may even get sick from the excessive "stimulation"... Give that person a month or two in that environment slowly raising up the "assault" on their nervous system... and they "adapt", their thresholds reset. Time and time again that test can be done with the same result, adaptation.

    Humans and other life adapted to the Sun and it's very strong electromagnetic spectrum output and it's variability.. The organism's thresholds adapt. The organisms build their foundation to take into account, the "earthquakes" to use the analogy posed about sturdy foundations.. Bio-systems adapt. Do they experience momentary uncomfortable sensations. Absolutely.. A plant for instance needs the variability to build a strong stem and be healthy. Without the variabilities the organism becomes weak. That is what Ross Adey that I mentioned a most leading researcher, a respected researcher found when using cellphone frequencies AND the variability of the modulation, organisms became STRONGER not weaker..

    My guess is what he observed was how an organism adapts and uses the random assaults (the scalar bioactivity) to build health..

    That's some of my observations and logic. And why I am not concerned about 5G. It is only one more of a myriad of signals present, and the sun, if it goes away, or if it experiences extreme outbursts most definitely the normal "noise" is going to change dramatically. How organisms adapt to energetic changes will be better or worse depending on if they have learned to adapt to changes in stimulation.. Someone very fragile, not able to adapt who is absolutely unable to "live in the city" is going to succumb or be very unhappy. IMHO.

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    But the number of those unable to adapt is growing and they are basically considered "collateral damage", and left to perish.
    Even in general, people are not getting healthier, they are getting sicker, and dumber, and more dependent on artificial props.
    Life span means little when life is dependent on props, and when it is measured only in years and not in quality of life.
    Among the base numbers of those unable to adapt are many more women and children than men, because men are able to withstand much more, and that doesn't even take into account plants and animals, which are even more vulnerable.
    Children are already under incredible assaults from chemicals in vaccines, food, air and water, starting in the womb.
    The problem with so much scientific research is that a broad cross section of people is often not used in testing , so the data is flawed.
    Especially in the health industry, and those high up in the health industry have admitted to this and to many other discrepancies, and expressed increasingly diminishing confidence in the data arrived at.
    Adaptation isn't necessarily a good thing.
    Does it makes us better people, smarter people, more in tune and in harmony with Nature and our planet to adapt to all these destructive devices?
    IMHO, absolutely not!
    We will begin to evolve when we learn to respect and live in harmony and cooperation with Earth, our source of life.
    What we are doing now is simply exploitation, and that likely won't last much longer.
    Civilizations have risen and fallen before, and it looks much more like ours is on the decline now than on the rise.

    Quote Posted by Bob (here)
    How organisms adapt to energetic changes will be better or worse depending on if they have learned to adapt to changes in stimulation.. Someone very fragile, not able to adapt who is absolutely unable to "live in the city" is going to succumb or be very unhappy. IMHO.
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    #5G Psychological Warfare!

    Part of pushing mass unrolling #5G Microwave Radiation everywhere is to spread vibes of "Crystal Clarity" in the midst of mass "uncertainty", "confusion" and mostly fabricated "doubt" ... Most people have been conditioned for centuries to blindly follow and trust their so called "Authorities" to know what is "best" for them! ... In a time of total chaos, people longing for: cohesiveness, clarity, harmony, peace of mind etc. etc.

    In a (total corrupted) world run by ruthless Psychopaths acting like "Empaths" all artificial created and fake, giving you the illusion that they too "care" ... No they don't ... Using all kinds of tricks in the book of how to seduce you, how to manipulate you, how to give you a feeling that they have "listened" to your side of the story. No they didn't nor do they care whatsoever ... They have a mission of their own, and it does NOT matter how they reach that goal. If it means they play a "role" to give you a "comforting" feeling mostly based upon provable lies & deceptions. Then if you and the majority fall(s) for it, they LAUGH at you! ... Now get this: If you are so easily fooled, you deserve no "power" of your own, is their main philosophy/credo! ... That is why they may see everything as a psychological game or psychological warfare ... most of them can not even fathom the idea that you have honest people that want to do only good! And if they did they see them as "useful idiots".

    Most psychopaths may have NO CLUE of who you really are, and guess what, they probably don't care if raised in an environment full of hypocrites & dishonest people getting away with many different things so easily. They seem to have no other way of thinking. It is how they operate: screw the other or "get screwed". "Survival of the fittest" ... He (or she) who can fool millions and getting away with it with no consequences, are worshiped by those who want to accomplish the same! ... Psychopaths learn from each-other how to screw you over more efficiently. And one way in how to do it is via MSM & Governments repeating YOUR created "narrative" without room for other views, any resistance to the sold narrative will be labeled: "conspiracy nuts", "quackery", "pseudo science", "fake news", "Russian propaganda" etc. etc. etc.

    Nothing I just shared with you is new, most of my colleague researchers know this too ... the thing is that most real "good people" can not comprehend the Operandus Mundi of how "evil people" feel or think and falsely assume that "common sense" & "logic" somehow will prevail for them! No it will not! ... Unless some of them lose loved ones (family and/or friends) even then they have to “sacrifice” it for “the greater good” BS .... Making “tough decisions” to show what it takes to be a psychopathic “leader” of insanity. If you “pass the test” you are part of the “Ruling Elite” thinking they are so “special”.

    Do you want me to continue writing just let me know in comments below!

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    Exclamation Re: Stop 5G before it's irreversible!

    #5G (A.I. Run "Smart Grid") will be soon so interwoven in a Society that it can not function without it? Uh yes!
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    Who is behind this madness?
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    So they create a mass artificial #5G grid dependency that, if NOT used it becomes "more deadly" for all that is in this (corrupted) system if it be cut out or demolished. So we have to "choose" between 2 evils: "More will die NOT using it" vs "Less will die using 5G" and all cumulative lethal "side effects" or "collateral damage" is a mandatory sacrifice even BEFORE it is widely implemented 2019 & 2020! ... They just assume we have no choice even before it happens on a massive scale! ... Totally insane! ... and they laugh at you! (us).
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    How many can follow my train of thought I just shared with you all?
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    .. if Billions of NEW #5G Smartphones are used in 2020+ 3 & 4G becomes even faster! ... But 5G Radiation Saturation is done by the MAJORITY of Sheeple and the Ruling Elite sees that as "voting with your money" AND all are complicit in harming (directly & indirectly) others by CONSENT! ... So they will claim "we all are guilty"! ... Then there is a point of "no return" due to the incredible dependencies of most Law Enforcers (using A.I. assistance), Military (A.I.) Applications, Government (A.I.) Applications, Smart Drones, Autonomous Smart Cars, A.I., Smart Cities, 1000s of new invented "Smart Gadgets" #IoT (Internet of Things) etc.
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    They count of the masses (sheeple) to be 100% complicit in the mass criminal & illegal operation by buying ( = voting! ) the new #5G Smartphones in 2019 & 2020+ that ALSO radiates same harmful erratic pulsed frequencies! ... When the majority does ... they can claim it is "democratically" accepted! #Boycott5G & #Stop5G
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    World "Health" Organization (W.H.O.) Un-Corruptible?

    World Health Organization, radiofrequency radiation and health - a hard nut to crack (Review)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5504984/

    Radiofrequency radiation from nearby base stations gives high levels in an apartment in Stockholm, Sweden: A case report

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5920374/

    The Advisory Group on Non-ionising Radiation (AGNIR) 2012 report forms the basis of official advice on the safety of radiofrequency (RF) electromagnetic fields in the United Kingdom and has been relied upon by health protection agencies around the world. This review describes incorrect and misleading statements from within the report, omissions and conflict of interest, which make it unsuitable for health risk assessment. The executive summary and overall conclusions did not accurately reflect the scientific evidence available. Independence is needed from the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP), the group that set the exposure guidelines being assessed. This conflict of interest critically needs to be addressed for the forthcoming World Health Organisation (WHO) Environmental Health Criteria Monograph on Radiofrequency Fields. Decision makers, organisations and individuals require accurate information about the safety of RF electromagnetic signals if they are to be able to fulfil their safeguarding responsibilities and protect those for whom they have legal responsibility.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27902455


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    Lloyd Burrell of ElectricSense teams up with Dr. Mercola & 33 more experts for EMFs protection health summit
    (Bold letters my emphasis)
    From Lloyd Burrell ElectricSense in his email update today:

    "In 2009 I did my first YouTube video and published it on my newly created website.
    I was thinking if just one person see’s this and get’s the message, it will have been worth it.
    Fortunately, quite a few people saw it because since then over 3 million people have visited ElectricSense.
    In fact my stats only go back to 2013 so it’s probably a bit more than that.
    In that first video I was just blowing of steam.
    I was a bit cheesed off (I’m being polite) not just because I’d been harmed by these supposedly safe technologies but because nobody knew anything about these dangers.
    Everyone was walking around ignorant, business as usual, complaining about the poor reception on their cell phone and buying cell phones for their kids etc.
    More to the point the medical community was, by and large, clueless.
    Since then my mission has morphed into one of not only raising awareness about the dangers but sharing solutions.
    And it’s just grown and grown over time, thanks to you.
    Today's announcement is the biggest news I've shared over the past decade.
    Because although in the EMF space I’m getting to be quite well known, outside of the little EMF microcosm nobody’s really heard of me.
    But more to the point nobody’s heard of ‘EMFs’.
    Or if they have then they’ve been misinformed/mislead by the industry propaganda.
    At the beginning of the year I was feeling a bit deflated.
    Which got me thinking, what can I do to take this to the next level?
    What can I do to really get the message out to a broader audience?
    EMFs need's to go mainstream.
    That’s where the idea of holding an EMF Health Summit came to the forefront.
    I’d like to say that I sat and meditated for a solution and that’s how it came to me.
    But it didn’t quite work like that.
    I’d been kind thinking it over for about 2 years!
    But I guess I felt that, to quote one of my favorite Elvis Presley songs, ‘It’s Now or Never’.
    To pull it off I knew that I needed the support of 30 or so world leading experts on EMFs.
    I also knew that I needed the support of some major websites in the natural health space to help me get the message out.
    How to convince them to help me?
    I decided to dive in at the deep end.
    I emailed Dr. Mercola, told him my bold plan and asked for his help.

    I figured if I can get the man behind the number one most visited natural health website on the planet on my side, who by the way is passionate about EMFs, then I would be off to a good start.
    He said yes!
    And the EMF Health Summit just snowballed from there.

    It’s been an intense year, but I've been able to connect with a total of 34 world-class experts on EMFs, 5G, WiFi, dirty electricity and the like.

    Each of them shares their best strategies to protect yourself from these digital toxins, which are causing chronic inflammation and so many other conditions and diseases. Including cancer.
    And do you know the best part?
    It’s FREE.
    All 35 interviews (34 guests but 35 interviews because I did a 2 part interview with Building Biologist Oram Miller) are free to watch between 9th and 15 December.

    Register here today to guarantee you don't miss it! https://emfhealthsummit.com/go-2-h2-...ck&pid=default
    And you know I always ask you to share my emails, well this time it's super important to share because with your help I really feel we can change something here.
    Please share with your loved ones, your friends and your neighbors!

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    My References on 5G and it's Dangerous Effects

    References:

    https://www.saferemr.com/2018/11/NTP-final-reports31.html
    —NTP Cell Phone Radiation Study: Final Reports

    http://www.emrpolicy.org/litigation/case_law/docs/noi_epa_response.pdf
    — EPA Radiation Protection Division Norbert Hankin on FCC exposure limits

    http://www.iemfa.org/wp-content/pdf/2017-09-13-Scientist-Appeal-5G-Moratorium.pdf
    — EU appeal:“Scientists and doctors warn of potential serious health effects of 5G”

    http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/us_doi_comments.pdf
    — U.S. Department of Interior comments on FirstNet, February 7, 2014

    https://projectcensored.org/4-how-big-wireless-convinced-us-cell-phones-and-wi-fi-are-safe/
    — “#4 How Big Wireless Convinced Us Cell Phones and Wi-Fi are Safe”, October 2, 2018

    https://www.thenation.com/article/how-big-wireless-made-us-think-that-cell-phones-are-safe-a-special-investigation/
    — “How Big Wireless Made Us Think That Cell Phones Are Safe: A Special Investigation” April 23, 2018

    http://www.newsweek.com/migratory-birds-bee-navigation-5g-technologyelectromagnetic-radiation-934830
    — “Radiation from cell phones, wifi are hurting the birds and the bees; 5g may make it worse”, May 2018 – on EKLIPSE review

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/05/17/electromagnetic-radiation-power-lines-phone-masts-poses-credible/
    — “Electromagnetic radiation from power lines and phone masts poses ‘credible’ threat to wildlife, report finds”, May 2018 – on EKLIPSE review

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300355

    https://www.emfacts.com/2018/08/martin-palls-book-on-5g-is-available-online/
    — “5G: Great risk for EU, U.S. and International Health! Compelling Evidence for Eight Distinct Types of Great Harm Caused by Electromagnetic Field (EMF) Exposures and the Mechanism that Causes Them”, Martin Pall PhD, June 2018

    https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/reveh.2016.31.issue-3/reveh-2016-0011/reveh-2016-0011.xml
    — European Academy of Environmental Medicine, “EUROPAEM EMF: Guideline 2016 for the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of EMF-related health problems and illnesses” (based on a 2012 report from the Austrian Medical Association)

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    http://www.sccma-mcms.org/Portals/19/Wireless%20Silent%20Spring%20%20SCCMA%20Oct%202018 %20%20Final%20PDF_1.pdf
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    http://tinyurl.com/OregonReview
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    https://www.diagnose-funk.org/download.php?field=filename&id=103&class=DownloadI tem
    — “Increasing incidence of burnout due to magnetic and electromagnetic fields of cell phone networks and other wireless communication technologies” Ulrich Warnke, Peter Hensinger

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    https://youtu.be/VuVtGldYXK4
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    https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/7022117660.pdf
    Comments to the FCC, Susan Foster MSW, February 2, 2013 – on firefighter study

    https://www.saferemr.com/2018/01/national-toxicology-program-peer-public.html
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    https://www.saferemr.com/2017/09/5g-wireless-technology-is-5g-harmful-to.html
    — 5G Wireless Technology: Is 5G Harmful to Our Health?

    https://emfscientist.org/
    — International EMF appeal by scientists and physicians, 2012

    http://microwavenews.com/news-center/ntp-nyt
    — “Setting the Record Straight on NTP Cell Phone Cancer Study: Ron Melnick Corrects ‘Misinformation,’ Rebuffed by the New York Times”, June 10, 2016

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300367?via%3Dihub

    http://microwavenews.com/news-center/more-coincidence
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Some of us try to research what we write about, before writing. Some of us prefer to monger fear, using half baked research.

    I encourage the former.
    Thanks for the encouragement. Here may be some of the former. Despite one or two good people here trying to reassure us that all is safe, I'm persuaded by the information in this article.

    TurboFuture is not an alternative media 'fear porn' site. It's very mainstream, dealing with tech topics of all kinds.
    Are 5G Wireless Networks Safe? The Dangers of 5G EMFs
    by John Coviello, updated May 30, 2018



    The massive build out of locally-based 5G wireless towers will increase human exposure to EMFs radiation dramatically.

    There is quite a buzz about the build-out of extremely fast 5G wireless networks, and for good reason. The speed upgrades and advances in capabilities associated with 5G will be very significant and will reshape the world for generations to come.

    However, there is an important question that must be answered regarding this rush to build a dense network of locally-based 5G cellular towers: Are 5G wireless networks safe for human health and animals?

    This is a reasonable question to ask since 5G will utilize extremely small millimeter-sized radio waves that generate electromagnetic fields (EMFs) radiation which will potentially be much more impactful to the health of living things than predecessor wireless technologies that used much longer radio waves (which are considered to be relatively safe).

    There is already a lot of concern about and research regarding the negative health effects of EMFs from high-voltage electrical transmission lines. The massive build out of locally-based 5G wireless towers will increase human exposure to EMFs radiation dramatically by increasing the number of people exposed to harmful millimeter radio waves EMF radiation.

    This pending dramatic increase in exposure to EMFs that will coincide with the introduction 5G wireless service should concern everyone who cares about their health and the health of their family and pets.

    Locally-Based 5G Towers Will Deliver EMFs at Potentially Unsafe Levels

    Besides extremely fast wireless data speeds, the next generation of wireless phone and data technology will require many more towers than previously needed to provide wireless services. To provide reliable connections, this dense network of 5G towers will be located in neighborhoods rather than distant remote locations, where the large majority of wireless towers are currently located.

    The new towers will be smaller and can be camouflaged fairly easy to fit into the environment. However, the aesthetics of the new 5G wireless towers are not the primary concern. The concern with having so many towers based so close to humans is the high-frequency millimeter-sized radio waves that 5G uses to deliver extremely fast data will increase human exposure to EMFs to potentially unsafe levels.

    5G Tower Hidden In a Cactus


    5G towers will be smaller than existing cell phone towers and can be camouflaged to blend into the scenery

    Why EMFs From 5G Are a Health Concern

    EMFs have been linked to a variety of serious medical conditions in humans, including but not limited to increased risk for leukemia and other cancers (including childhood leukemia), increased risk of eye cataracts, diminished immune system function, and memory impairment.

    Concerns about the negative health effects associated with exposure to EMFs over long periods of time has caused many people to avoid living near high-voltage electric lines that produce strong EMFs in closeby areas. These same concerns will apply to locally based wireless towers needed to provide 5G wireless service.

    The concerns about EMFs saturating human-occupied areas with harmful EMFs are not just hysteria. Scientific studies have raised serious concerns about EMFs, especially long-term exposure to these invisible radio waves. Health concerns regarding mobile phone usage have been heightened by data released by United States’ National Toxicology Program researchers in May 2016 that found small increases in the rate of tumors in male rats exposed to cellphone radiation at amounts and durations that were near the allowable level of cellphone radiation for brain exposure in the United States.

    While extrapolating the results from rats to humans is something that cannot be done without further studies, the results are a concern for health experts, especially since radiation associated with cell phone usage is presumed to be safe non-ionizing radiation. The American Cancer Society said this study was "a paradigm shift in our understanding of radiation and cancer risk."

    5G will use pulsed millimeter-sized waves to transmit and receive data. Prior research has found that pulsed microwaves affect human biological processes more acutely than non-pulsed microwaves. Studies have found frequencies utilizing pulsed microwaves caused DNA strand breaks and other toxic effects on cells that are precursors to cancer.

    Another health concern associated with 5G is that it will be adding another layer of electronic radio wave radiation to the already existing ones that humans are presently exposed to in their everyday lives. The term “electrosmog” has been coined to describe the ever-increasing amount of electronic radio waves that occupy the spaces we live in. 5G will increase the amount of electrosmog that impacts humans.

    Some researchers have raised concerns that being exposed to multiple sources of electronic radio wave radiation could have synergistic negative health impacts, as they will potentially act in concert in the way they affect living things. We really will not know the true effects of the increased electronic radio wave radiation / EMFs exposure due to 5G until many years in the future when epidemiologists have analyzed health data to determine if any discernible increases in illnesses can be attributed to EMFs exposure associated with 5G.

    What You Can Do Protect Yourself From 5G EMFs

    It appears inevitable that the world is moving towards the much faster wireless data speeds that 5G offers, regardless of what the short and long-term health effect may be on humans and the natural world. The following are some practical ideas regarding what you can do to protect yourself from 5G EMFs that will increase over time as 5G wireless services are rolled out to additional areas.
    • Buy an EMF meter and measure EMFs in your home or workspace, where you spend most of your time. Make sure to avoid areas with high EMF readings or at least not use them as places you spend a lot of time.
    • If you find high EMF readings in an area you cannot avoid, consider installing shielding to lessen the strength of EMFs in that area. There is a whole cottage industry of EMF shielding products, such as Earthing Grounding Anti-radiation EMF RF Shielding Fabric, which is effective at stopping EMFs from affecting a space.
    • Be aware of your community’s plans for locating new 5G wireless towers in the area that you live. If one is proposed close to your home, let your voice be heard at the planning board meeting and to try to get them to change the location. Not only will your health be potentially negatively impacted by a nearby 5G wireless tower, but your home value will also take a hit, especially if health concerns regarding EMF radiation from 5G grow over time.
    • If necessary, move to a new location that is not so close to a 5G wireless tower or other sources of EMFs.
    • Participate in efforts to promote the study of the effects of EMFs on human health and the natural world. Citizen activism can lead to additional health studies and better safety standards for EMF exposures.
    5G Electrosmog


    An artist's depiction of 5G Electrosmog

    What You Can Do Protect Yourself From 5G EMFs

    It appears inevitable that the world is moving towards the much faster wireless data speeds that 5G offers, regardless of what the short and long-term health effect may be on humans and the natural world. The following are some practical ideas regarding what you can do to protect yourself from 5G EMFs that will increase over time, as 5G wireless services are rolled out to additional areas.
    • Buy an EMF meter and measure EMFs in your home or workspace, where you spend most of your time. Make sure you avoid areas with high EMF readings.
    • If you find high EMF readings in an area you cannot avoid, consider installing shielding to lessen the strength of EMFs in that area.
    • Be aware of your community’s plans for locating new locally-based 5G wireless towers. If one is proposed close to your home, let your voice be heard at the planning board meeting to try to get them to change the location. Not only will your health be potentially impacted by a nearby 5G wireless tower, but your home value will also take a hit, especially if health concerns regarding 5G grow over time.
    • If necessary, move to a new location that is not so close to a 5G wireless tower or other sources of EMFs.
    • Participate in efforts to study the effects of EMFs on human health and the natural world. Citizen activism can lead to additional health studies and better safety standards for EMF exposures.
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    It does appear we are going to be getting 5g, 6g, 8,9, 10g whether we like it or not.

    We have a lot of conflicting data, that it is perfectly safe, it isn't, it's bad, you are a Luddite( someone opposed to technological progress) if you don't take it all now and go with it.

    Some seem to have no problems living next to a tower for years, some seem to get cancer, or hear voices.

    I think this whole scene needs to be evaluated as to survival. Does it really help mankind? Are the advantages much better than worse for the person?

    I see the new generation of people, gee I showed my age, and when I often go out to dinner I see a group of people and most are looking into their cell phones instead of talking to the group that they with. The young kids seem the most hypnotized, it's sad. I had dinner at one place and the menus were all interactive and RF based. It was such bad EMF, I have never been back to that place.

    So what are the advantages to this new and great tech? It is going to allow instant downloading of data. So who will that benefit? The people can download a movie in 2 secs now and watch it for the next few hours. I guess it is an advantage that the government will know exactly where you are and what you are doing. That is a advantage for the gov hmmm.

    It will allow for world wide instant comm anywhere on the planet, I guess I can go with that one. Will that comm be secure? Not sure on that.

    AI for sure will get more efficient and power with instant downloading don't you think. The jobs humans did will be done with AI, isn't that great?

    One could list a lot of things both ways. We do know it is all going to be power hungry. We do know that avaricious people will take advantage of it.

    We Do need to know All the effects of this new game, we are going into a space age. I hope we stay in control of the creations we have built.

    I am still waiting for all the Long term health studies on 5g from the ieee website. Or anywhere else. Hopefully this is not fear porn or sensationalism for some.

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    For an esoteric perspective, some very interesting parallels drawn between these times and the Fall of Atlantis, regarding technology and the great division in ideologies that brought about the Fall and is manifesting now as well, discussed in the latest Dark Journalist X series posted here:
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Despite one or two good people here trying to reassure us that all is safe, I'm persuaded by the information in this article.
    ...
    The following are some practical ideas regarding what you can do to protect yourself from 5G EMFs that will increase over time, as 5G wireless services are rolled out to additional areas.
    ...
    I'm not one of those who is saying that all is safe regarding 5G.

    As with most assaults to our well being, effective counter-measures usually require a more nuanced understanding of the threat than most of us have the time or focus to acquire.

    I find broader spectrum fear raising to be, in and of itself, of little value, even negative value, unless it leads to a more focused defense and accurate understanding.

    That's a core part of the problem ... the complexity, diversity, volatility and rapid evolution of the challenges we face, at so many levels at once, including but entirely not limited to EMF's, is rather literally mind (and body, family and habitat) boggling.
    If—

    Rudyard Kipling, 1865 - 1936

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs ...
    Sooner or later our time here will end, for each of us. Meanwhile, stay calm, focused, alert, doing one's best to improve one's awareness, understanding, skills, tools and bonds with others.

    Much of the warnings, and of the advice, that is offered to us is not, in my present estimation, worth much.
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    Joseph Ferrell gives his usual high octane speculation on a possible 5G incident in the Netherlands. He also cites our own John Kuhles.

    NOVEMBER 30, 2018

    5G EXPERIMENT IN THE NETHERLANDS IS A RESOUNDING… FAILURE

    Many regular readers here have been bringing articles to my attention for several months concerning 5G towers. Admittedly, this is not a subject with which I'm very familiar, save only to know that many people have been raising alarm about it. I've a steep learning curve here, so bear with me. But this article shared by Mr. S.D. caught my attention, largely for its assertion that a 5G test for "environmental harmfulness" was quietly conducted in The Hague, The Netherlands:

    Hundreds Of Birds Dead During 5g Experiment In The Hague, Netherlands

    While the article is quite lengthy, and cites a number of sources, the center of my concerns are here:

    Quote About a week ago at The Hague, many birds died spontaneously, falling dead in a park. You likely haven’t heard a lot about this because it seems keeping it quiet was the plan all along. However, when about 150 more suddenly died – bringing the death toll to 297 – some started to take notice.

    And if you are looking around that park you might have seen what is on the corner of the roof across the street from where they died: a new 5G mast, where they had done a test, in connection with the Dutch railway station, to see how large the range was and whether no harmful equipment would occur on and around the station. And harm happened, indeed. Immediately afterward, birds fell dead from the trees. And the nearby ducks that were swimming seemed to react very oddly as well; they were simultaneously putting their heads underwater to escape the radiation while others flew away, landing on the street or in the canal.
    Again, almost at the exact same time that those animals died, near the station, Holland Spoor was tested with a 5G transmitter mast.

    Quote “If they all got heart-failure with an healthy body, no signs of any virus, no bacterial infection, healthy blood, no poisons found etc. etc. The only reasonable explanation is, that it is from the new 5G Microwaves having an huge effect of all birds hearts! … It heavily resonates with certain ERRATIC PULSED Microwaves (millions per second!) which can be proven to have biological effects on organs! … Am not kidding here! … Some people assume Microwaves at lower wattage “can not harm” because “it does not cook you” … that very flawed “logic” is what they want you to repeat over and over! … Search in “Google Scholar Search Site”: Biological Effects of Non-ionizing Microwaves and be ready to be shocked how stupid most sheeple really are in believing blindly the so called “experts” & ” authorities” of FCC, Telecom & Wireless Industry propaganda!” – John Kuhles, founder of Fb.com/groups/Stop5G & Fb.me/Stop5G owner of Stop5G.net
    I've written many times on this website about various mind control technologies which use microwaves in interferometry to produce entrainment effects, and even remote "voice of God" technologies for broadcasting thoughts directly into brains. My most recent book, Microcosm and Medium discusses some of these technologies and their possible applications at some length, and I've also written on this website about my suspicions that the Cuban embassy attacks were the result of the use of similar types of technologies.

    So herewith some high octane speculation:

    It is a short step from that basic concept to a similar use of microwave technologies - perhaps again involving interferometry - to produce beat frequencies which could interfere with, or actually shut down, the electrical functioning of organisms' nervous systems, including organs such as the heart. And that's what is so alarming here: birds might be resonant to certain such frequencies, other organisms to other frequencies. All one needs to do, so to speak, is to "dial in" the right frequency, and one could eradicate a regional population of dogs, cats... or even humans.

    So herewith some more high octane speculation:

    A few years ago I blogged about the strange deaths of geese and other birds in midflight in remote places such as Idaho (see YOU TELL US: BIRDS “FALL FROM THE SKY” IN IDAHO, STONE ...). There was also an episode a few years ago of a flight of birds that fell dead to the ground in Tennessee, simultaneously. At the time of the strange incident in Idaho, the theory was quickly advanced by the "lamestream" that the birds had contracted a sudden-onset flu of some sort, and came crashing to the ground (again, simultaneously!) because of it. A moment's reflection on this story from The Netherlands reveals the possibility that these earlier incidents may have been similar - and very secret - tests, perhaps of some prototype 5G technology.

    If so, then that contains a frightening implication, namely, that the effects of the technology were well known, far in advance of this most recent incident, and that "they" have gone ahead with their plans anyway.

    See you on the flip side...

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    Quote 5G towers will be smaller than existing cell phone towers and can be camouflaged to blend into the scenery
    Nice how they camouflage the towers in cactus. Where I lived in Cali they did it in fake spruce trees.

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    Joseph Ferrell gives his usual high octane speculation on a possible 5G incident in the Netherlands. He also cites our own John Kuhles.
    [...]
    See also post # 200, upstream in this thread.
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    I liked the above article. It seemed to have a higher proportion of verifiable specifics, more accurately stated, and its recommendations for reducing EMF exposure match my recommendations rather well.

    The above Yandex search link is not serving whatever was its intended purpose.


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    Ask anyone who is NOT in to conspiracy research, this question:

    Let's assume you want to move to a new house ... and you can choose between 1 house that is a bit cheaper but very close to a #4G UMTS Cell Tower the other house is a bit more expensive but not close or near any cell tower ... Both houses are identical ... Which one would you chose?

    If he/she answers: I choose the house far away any cell towers ... Ask why?

    With a follow up statement:

    Coming 2 years the Big Tech Industry wants to deploy millions of new #5G cell towers every 300 metes (1000 feet) maybe even on every "smart" streetlight pole in all neighborhoods without us having a open debate without locals having a say!! ... Would you want to study Stop5G.net and/or Join: Fb.com/groups/Stop5G
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    Bob's perspective interests me.

    Back when I was in elementary school, one year my science project was an experiment to prove or disprove that music affected plant growth.

    I built 2 identical chambers (hey, it's been a while, I can't remember all the details, but remember that the chambers were surrounded by several layers of acoustic/sound deadening tiles, to isolate the sound/music to just one chamber.)

    Sure enough, in the chamber with music, all the seeds germinated faster, and all the plants grew markedly taller, faster.

    So, from my perspective, no plants were harmed in this experiment. However, it is incorrect to say that the plants were not affected by the invisible vibrational energy that we call music. They were affected, profoundly, but in a way that a human would see (at least at first blush) as being beneficial. Maybe the fast germination is too fast for the plant's overall health. Maybe the cells in the stalks were overly elongated and not really beneficial to the plants...

    Maybe the same 5G frequencies are in the mix of solar energy that reaches us, but maybe using those isolated frequencies outside of the 'soup' of overall solar energy is harmful (to microorganisms, fungi, plants, and animals?) We see this phenomenon in light. (Refer to John Ott's book on light and health.) The overall sunlight contains all the frequencies, but when just a few of the frequencies are isolated and emitted from a CFL bulb (which fools our eyes and we see "white" light when there is really just a Red, a Green, and a Blue frequency spike, all other frequencies not represented or considerably less), there is observable harm to animals and plants.

    So, maybe the 5G wattage IS low, and the 5G frequencies are already present in the natural world from solar radiation, but maybe those (isolated and consistent) frequencies may still be harmful. Remember too (as the scientists among us start to devise experiments, in their heads) that "harm" is relative and that there may indeed be harm that cannot be seen on magnified tissue slides under a microscope, or even in behaviors. Some harm may not even show up for a generation or two (like a decline in fertility rates, for example.)


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    Also worth remembering, as I wrote in post #225: "But the number of those unable to adapt is growing and they are basically considered "collateral damage", and left to perish.
    Even in general, people are not getting healthier, they are getting sicker, and dumber, and more dependent on artificial props.
    Life span means little when life is dependent on props, and when it is measured only in years and not in quality of life.
    Among the base numbers of those unable to adapt are many more women and children than men, because men are able to withstand much more, and that doesn't even take into account plants and animals, which are even more vulnerable.
    Children are already under incredible assaults from chemicals in vaccines, food, air and water, starting in the womb.
    The problem with so much scientific research is that a broad cross section of people is often not used in testing , so the data is flawed.
    Especially in the health industry, and those high up in the health industry have admitted to this and to many other discrepancies, and expressed increasingly diminishing confidence in the data arrived at.
    Adaptation isn't necessarily a good thing.
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