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    5G network uses same EMF waves as crowd control system developed by Pentagon

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    The global rollout of 5G is well underway, and we soon may see new small cell towers near all schools, on every residential street, dispersed throughout the natural environment, and pretty much everywhere. But the safety of this technology is in serious question, and there is a raging battle to stop the taxpayer funded implementation of 5G.

    The new cell network uses high band radio frequency millimeter waves to deliver high bandwidth data to any device within line of sight.
    "Today's cellular and Wi-Fi networks rely on microwaves - a type of electromagnetic radiation utilizing frequencies up to 6 gigahertz (GHz) in order to wirelessly transmit voice or data. However, 5G applications will require unlocking of new spectrum bands in higher frequency ranges above 6 GHz to 100 GHz and beyond, utilizing submillimeter and millimeter waves - to allow ultra-high rates of data to be transmitted in the same amount of time as compared with previous deployments of microwave radiation." [Source]
    "One of the ways 5G will enable this is by tapping into new, unused bands at the top of the radio spectrum. These high bands are known as millimeter waves (mmwaves), and have been recently been opened up by regulators for licensing. They've largely been untouched by the public, since the equipment required to use them effectively has typically been expensive and inaccessible." [Source]
    Among the many potential problems with exposure to 5G radio waves are issues with the skin, which is interesting when you consider that this technology is already being used in the military for crowd control purposes.
    "This kind of technology, which is in many of our homes, actually interacts with human skin and eyes. The shocking finding was made public via Israeli research studies that were presented at an international conference on the subject last year. Below you can find a lecture from Dr. Ben-Ishai of the Department of Physics at Hebrew University. He goes through how human sweat ducts act like a number of helical antennas when exposed to these wavelengths that are put out by the devices that employ 5G technology." [Source]
    The U.S. military developed a non-lethal crowd control weapon system called the Active Denial System (ADS). It uses radio frequency millimeter waves in the 95GHz range to penetrate the top 1/64 of an inch layer of skin on the targeted individual, instantly producing an intolerable heating sensation that causes them to flee.

    This video demonstrates:
    This technology is becoming ubiquitous in top world militaries, demonstrating how genuinely effective this radio frequency energy can be at causing harm to humans and anything else.
    "U.S., Russian, and Chinese defense agencies have been active in developing weapons that rely on the capability of this electromagnetic technology to create burning sensations on the skin, for crowd control. The waves are Millimetre waves, also used by the U.S. Army in crowd dispersal guns called Active Denial Systems." [Source]
    Final Thoughts
    The fight over 5G is heating up at the community level, and awareness of this important issue is spreading fast. For more background on 5G, watch this video from Take Back Your Power, featuring Tom Wheeler, Former FCC Chairman and corporate lobbyist, who delivers a rather intimidating and presumptuous speech praising this new technology. The fight over 5G is heating up at the community level, though, and now is the time to speak out against it.

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    While I appreciate folks bringing up references of all the possible dangers of 5G, it needs to be pointed out, that the 94-95 gigahertz "crowd control waves" system and concept is a far distance away from the "waves" currently used for 5G.

    The article by Terence I feel strongly is a type of "fear porn" I believe designed to take an extreme viewpoint (where technology would be way too expensive to employ in commercial and public application for telecommunications) and try to equate it to 5G. To me it is like trying to equate a water pistol to a 50 calibre machine gun - both are projectile devices, but hardly is a waterpistol (5G power levels) even remotely in the same ballpark as the 50 cal (the Active Denial military weapon).

    A high power weapons "heater" device working in 94-95 gigahertz range would cause insurmountable interference to telecommunications operating within the same band range, and the developers of 5G would never ever setup their equipment to be interfered with by military crowd control "heating systems to create skin burns" (which has a trade name of ACTIVE DENIAL, the 94-95 gig system portrayed in the "proof" Terence offers us). To me to equate that is from extreme ignorance of the technologies, or it is a deliberate attempt at trying to convince lay folks, using "outrage porn" (see below references).

    5G has it's issues as has been pointed out clearly in multiple technical informative posts on the subject... as do the other microwave frequencies from UHF (450 megahertz) and UP TO 100 gigahertz.

    It is multi-path reflections even with LOW POWER that cause scalar bio-active effects in anything organic which can absorb the electromagnetics.

    94-95 gigahertz bands have one main use with extreme power levels - Microwave in that range can be directed (read "beamed") as a weapon to create penetration and burning, just as an infra-red laser can be directed to create skin penetration and burning..

    Equating highly directional 95 gigahertz ACTIVE DENIAL beam systems of high power microwaves, with 5G ultra-low power omni-directional (meaning no beams involved) telecommunications is misleading and inaccurate IMHO and in no circumstances helps the cause of understanding the technology of 5G and the other "G's".

    Terence Newton (Waking Times) obviously to me has got it a bit off, and way too sensationalistic towards fear porn (or maybe trying to create and press an "outrage porn" button). Seems to me, that spreading misinformation and playing with "buttons" most certainly doesn't help the cause to deal with the multi-path biological damage from ANY of the in-use microwave signals from UHF thru Satellite, thru Radar, through all the "G's" (1G, 2G, 3G, 4G and 5G and 6G when it gets here).

    5G (as does all of the "G's" in the bands for telecommunications) has it's issues as do ALL of the microwave and upper UHF radio frequencies. Why? Multi-path effects creating a biological response. THAT is the issue, not trying to equate a power heating device, which industry points out over and over 5G will never be heating up anything - seems to me those dots need to be understood.

    Nobody in 5G (or any of the "G" bands) would ever use such power levels and direct beams as in Active Denial weapons systems in the lower bands. Doing such would burn out all the receivers in the telecommunications iPhones, Androids and so forth at those "heating" level powers. Whomever that Terence is most certainly didn't do their homework.

    Ref - Active Denial System power levels - report: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a501865.pdf

    Quote [..] output power levels of approximately 100 kilowatts. To help achieve this efficiency, it was necessary to produce very high magnetic fields around the gyrotron, which was done with a superconducting magnet operating at approximately 4 degrees Kelvin. This was achieved with a liquid helium cryo-compressor instead of surrounding the magnet in liquid cryogens, which would have made the system nearly impractical for field applications. Even with the gyrotron‘s high efficiency, nearly half of its input power had to be dissipated. This was accomplished in the Humvee with extensive use of liquid cooling loops, radiators and fans.

    Power levels in 5G cellphones are to be 100 times LESS power than existing cellphones.

    Ref: Exposing FEAR PORN - https://www.facebook.com/exposingfea...5604224195653/

    Ref: Outrage PORN - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outrage_porn

    Quote Outrage porn is a term used to explain media that is created not in order to generate sympathy, but rather to cause anger or outrage among its consumers. It makes you feel fired up, which makes you more likely to pass things on.
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    The article by Terence I feel strongly is a type of "fear porn" I believe designed to take an extreme viewpoint (where technology would be way too expensive to employ in commercial and public application for telecommunications) and try to equate it to 5G. To me it is like trying to equate a water pistol to a 50 calibre machine gun - both are projectile devices, but hardly is a waterpistol (5G power levels) even remotely in the same ballpark as the 50 cal (the Active Denial military weapon).
    Oh dear - there's a move afoot in my town to pump water to every house - the same water that is used by heavily armed police to suppress riots:
    My sense too is that much of what we're viewing about 5G is fear porn, being used as controlled opposition, thus better ensuring that no serious obstacle to 5G roll out arises.

    I am more concerned with the increasingly pervasive and invasive integration of humanity with technology that is above the understanding of most of us, and above the control of almost all of us. The related controversy over "A.I." is another such use of fear porn to energize controlled opposition, in order to ensure that no serious obstacle to this technology integration arises.

    As one small example, related to 5G, currently our Internet of Things (IoT) devices, such as our light bulbs, refrigerator and electric toothbrush, usually connect via our Wi-Fi, which presents various setup, configuration and security problems impeding the wider use of IoT devices. Once 5G (essentially "Wi-Fi for the World," directly connected via the cell networks) is rolled out, then IoT devices will require absolutely zero setup and configuration. You need not even ever know that your light bulb is spying on you.

    Along with 5G, to cover the more heavily populated areas of the land mass, there is also an effort well under way to put tens of thousands of satellites into low earth orbit, ensuring that everywhere on the planet, no matter how remote or how far out to sea, can always be connected with this grid.
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    I am more concerned with the increasingly pervasive and invasive integration of humanity with technology that is above the understanding of most of us, and above the control of almost all of us. The related controversy over "A.I." is another such use of fear porn to energize controlled opposition, in order to ensure that no serious obstacle to this technology integration arises.
    That precisely exemplifies the point I think, we are not explained in laymen's terms what we should rationally be concerned about, and what is essentially harmless. Education. Legit honest rational.

    Folks are generally afraid of science, right? Afraid of anything technical, 'leave it to the experts' type of rational.. When we have something all pervasive, anyone with some fancy sounding scarey words could woo or sway the group or crowd into not just fear porn, but outrage porn, something specifically I feel Bill has been alerting us all to watch for... that which is designed to rabble rouse, intensely polarize us desensitize us to allow for the antagonization of others (our 'family' so to speak), so that they (those so outraged) will "blindly" pass it on, thereby spreading the "fear", "hate" or polarization. It snowballs out of control.

    The polarization that you mentioned Paul (lump summing it into the word polarization) ---- polarization, to set something up, then play the factions against each other, to create in electrical terms, "CHARGE" means somebody is able to use that "charge" thusly created.

    Look for who's creating charges, and look for who is using "such charges" either personally, overtly or accidentally, and one can then see where something is headed (the logical outcome).

    Education, and using simplistic terms, simplistic understandings gets past the fear of "science".. Using analogies that are easily perceivable, understood, allows folks to "connect the dots".

    If we let ourselves get overly techno-swamped, somebody out there is going to use the piles of misunderstoods to overwhelm and manipulate.
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    I just came across this youtube channel. Haven't listened to it yet myself, but it looks like it may have possibilities as a source of good info re alternative health. This episode is about EMF protection.


    ( As for me, re EMFs, microwaves, etc. I am a canary in the coal mine.
    Though I work a lot on my health, my near death experience in my 20s that put me in the hospital for 5 months left my energy field damaged and permeable, so I feel the effects of these technologies directly.
    When they began putting up cell phone towers I felt like I was coming down with Alzheimer's. I would do something, then 5 minutes later go back to do it again, then have a panic attack when I realized I had already done it.
    That prompted me to move to a very rural area, which helped a lot.
    But the prospect of 5G definitely concerns me, and if there are any affordable devices that offer real protection, I would certainly like to know about them.
    I meditate, use crystals, plants, salt candles, spend time in Nature in touch with the Earth, etc.
    I bought a $700 mini BioMat, which helps, but the problem isn't solved, by any means.
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    Onawah - I noticed when the direct broadcast satellite services hit. Reading up on Robert Becker's work, about cellular regeneration, biological cellular current, actual DC currents traveling within the body, due to the electro-chemical reactions happening... nerves firing with a certain voltage across the nerve gaps.. what I understood is a living organism would "reset it's threshold" to compensate (over time) for bombardment of stimulus.

    It is sorta like, if one experiences an annoying sound, at first if one was in a quiet area, the sound becomes pretty obvious. The brain after a while of exposure to the stimulus then starts to reset the "trip levels" - it is an actual chemical release of more GABA in the receptors. (GABA is known as the modulator of excess hypersensitivity in laymens terms).

    The immune system also works on electro-chemical thresholds.. Bugs which escape the immune system use a type of insulation, like a slime coating.. the offensive bug hides, and the nervous system and immune system having been "threshold modified" by external stimulus let the bugs get by..

    Some of the electric pacers out there, the early ones by Bob Beck for instance put an additional current, a different current into the body, by pacing, and altering the trip altered thresholds of the nervous system (that is a generalization but it describes the basis of how they worked).. Clark was another. The basis is reset the thresholds and get the nerves and immune system responsive to proper lower level "signals" from things which would assault the body.

    What I had pointed out in an earlier post in this thread which brought up Puharich's pacer watch, was about doing a safe reset of the nervous system to one of the lower frequency Schumann patterns.. the logic being that the bodies grew up with Schumann present, long before electromagnetic man made transmitters were present. Schumann comes from the earth ionosphere cavity, where lightning discharges are the radio signal drive, and the low frequencies are what all the living organisms on earth are bathed in at a very low level.. (Body then habituates to that pattern and grows with that pattern and derives functionality with that pattern in the background).

    So Puharich's logic was go back to basics - go back to what we had when living organisms were originally forming.

    You've heard me harp on multi-path reflections.. A bit of background on that - In a crystal, and this is a bit of Marcel Vogel's logic too, when something enters, it bounces around the crystal surfaces, and while it is bouncing, the waves will interact within the quartz, and create a specific scalar signal, a 3-dimensional SHAPE will be formed. The scalar is like a buzz saw really. The junctions of the nodes where the waves interact, are like the teeth on a saw blade.. What they are able to do is re-shape structure in the same way that a buzz saw can cut timber. What we feel from the scalars is the cutting, the breaking, the shorting out and the resetting, or the trip threshold level of the nerves change. We get out of balance, the body generates endorphins to cope, and that which was normal, is no longer normal. We are out-of-balance..

    A properly designed Vogel Crystal (Puharich gave me a handful of some of his most precious Vogel masterpieces) can be like a scalpel. Used properly and such an item is an amazing tool. Used by Jack the Ripper and a scalar scalpel can be an awful tragedy in the making..

    Multi-path happens not just in crystals, but in anything which has a reflective surface and a path, an area in which energy can act.

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    Thanks Bob! I have a small $100 Vogel crystal that I used to wear in a pouch around my neck. Unfortunately, it broke in half. (It was probably too delicate for that kind of use.)
    Perhaps I should get another one and keep it more protected this time.
    It seems that devices only work for a time, but crystals are living things, so perhaps they adjust instead.
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    Thanks Bob! I have a small $100 Vogel crystal that I used to wear in a pouch around my neck. Unfortunately, it broke in half. (It was probably too delicate for that kind of use.)
    Perhaps I should get another one and keep it more protected this time.
    It seems that devices only work for a time, but crystals are living things, so perhaps they adjust instead.
    Well, the reality is a fixed device, is a "fixed device". What I have noted with fixed scalar locked in place systems (i.e. crystals), they will break whence the scalar pattern is non-useful for the "current reality".. Translated, we all move on, reality moves on, older patterns are older patterns, and sometimes if we don't act in a flexible manner, the old pattern will break.. I.E. DNA, the mechanism is in there to adapt, if we don't apply the "keep up with change", the old pattern does fall by the wayside.

    Recall the threads talking about some of the PTB using young blood, to get the blood with the regenerate patterns TURNED ON.. On topic here, a device which would re-activate the repair mechanisms would be ideal to deal with all forms of energetic (multi-path) assault.. A scalar device in it's simplest form is like a scalpel.. any of the UHF thru microwaves would be able to be dealt with ideally.. Turn on the DNA repair patterns in the genes.

    On one more note, anyone with an isolated oscilloscope should show some images of one's POWER LINE MAINS.. We expect our AC power to be a nice smooth sine wave.. On the contrary.. One can see a LOT of broadcast patterns right on our mains power grid.. So talking 5G or any of the microwave assaults we are missing another assault right in our living spaces, the signals on the power line, riding on the AC wave.. Watching that over time is very interesting, and then watching people when different patterns appear is very interesting.. In some places, one can turn on one's AM radio in the car, and go hang out near some high tension lines, and tune the radio until one starts hearing a strong pattern. Listen for a while to the changes happening. Becker talked about the sicknesses that one can experience living near high tension lines.. They reflect radio waves, the insulators create chaotic microwaves (wideband disruptive multi-path "noise" or multiple buzz saw patterns)... and there is the additional ELF patterns (extremely low frequencies riding on the power lines themselves)... We are missing the boat just looking at 5G in other words..

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    Yes, 5G is just the tip of the iceberg, but with all that we are already obliged to endure, it just feels to me like the last straw.
    I live in a complex and the big power lines are on the other side, fortunately for me. But I notice what frazzled energy my neighbors over on that side have, and when I walk under those lines, I feel such a burden of toxic energy. I don't know how they stand it.
    I only have a landline phone, and I have lots of crystals and other stones and plants all around my computer, so sitting in the middle of them doesn't affect me as much as my friends seem to think. They think I'm crazy because I spend so much time online, while at the same time going on and on about the dangers of EMF exposure.
    But I see how spaced out people are, how absent minded, and the silly mistakes people make of a kind that never used to be normal every day mistakes. Our power of reasoning, of remembering, of just being fully conscious, is definitely being affected.
    I wonder what traffic fatalities are like in areas where 5G has already been instated--I'll bet they are on the rise.
    Just in time for and all the more reason for the PTB to push AI controlled vehicles.
    When that happens, what in the world are all those unemployed truckdrivers going to do?
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    And what you describe is what others have noticed. Some very clearly have a high threshold for the nervous system as far as "sensitivity" to any change. Others get the full blast, and refuse to succumb or let themselves be "deadened". The most deadening agents that I have seen are that which messes with nerve conductivity.. Anti-histamines which change the gap between the synapses (the nerve gaps between the individual nerves).. Agents that bring the nerve gaps closer together, such as hallucinogens, make for hypersensitivity.

    Alcohol is the conventional deadener used over time to reduce hypersensitivity.. Gaba and other nutrients of that calibre can do such.. Deadening does not stop the damage though..Masking most certainly can get us a brief respite, but over time, dna does erode, organic structures erode.. Not from the POWER but from the scalar derivations from the multi-paths.. Microwaves most certainly allow for those reflections.. And most certainly folks can experience the chaos.. I'm just focusing on the education needed so that folks can determine where other sources are besides our most obvious techno-apparatus..

    I know folks who react to the signals (there are wideband microwaves within computers for instance themselves, or the monitors, on and on...). I even met and studied a person in the glide path to an airport in Massachusetts many years ago.. She would react to the microscopic spark coming from a lightswitch being opened and closed and opened.. A very minute but wide band microwave spark happens, and her body was able to absorb that microwatt signal (millionths of a watt of power, a very small amount) and react.. Her thresholds were all off..

    I can logically see the concerns by sensitive people about adding in any additional source of microwave information into our environment.. The sensitivity comes from the multipath signal interacting within the tissue, and it can be a very very low level with very sensitive people.. To deal with it I think is where we are at. 5G and the other G's won't go away nor will our power grid, nor our computers or IOT (Internet of things) devices like smart lights, smart doorbells, thermostats.. We need to understand WHERE the microwave signals are coming from (such as high tension line insulators, "sparking") and document where it is coming from, and note the power levels..

    Another thread goes over the microwaves (UHF in some cases) from the Smart Meters.. Another source obviously and a LOT of discussion, some of it very animated discussion and passion.. Arguing the technology isn't going to help, the tech will not go away, all we will see is a tension level building, a frustration and more stress. Coming up with the resetting pacer solutions is what I feel is the way, a way to get back to normal bio-rhythm-trip levels with the nerves.. Something that will turn on the DNA repair mechanisms will deal with the assaults.. Electromagnetic SMOG is just one of the assaults.. Look at the threads on GMO's, the biological assaults on our systems, our basic nutrients..

    What works? Either destroy the whole system, all of it, start over... OR come up with repair mechanisms, pacers, that which helps deal with stress of all sorts.. Education is the only way, and not letting us get bamboozled by misinformation piled up on us, so that we have more stress to deal with trying to sort it. I still remain optimistic

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    But there are safer technologies that are not being used, and I think eventually that will have to change. We can do something about that end of it, hopefully. The human race just can't adapt quickly enough to all this energy smog, the elites included.
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    But there are safer technologies that are not being used, and I think eventually that will have to change. We can do something about that end of it, hopefully. The human race just can't adapt quickly enough to all this energy smog, the elites included.
    Not all can adapt, but, as with prior scourges on humanity, such as wood or coal smog in the air, lead in the water, deficiencies in the food, inadequate sanitation and clean water supplies, weather extremes, volcanoes and earthquakes, wars, famine, and pestilence, ... the human race survives, or at least has so far.

    We each do what we can and will do to improve the lot of all of ourselves, our friends, family and neighbors, and of humanity in general.

    Some, such as perhaps yourself, do far more than most, sometimes because life's challenges have made those more aware of the problems. Such challenges are often both a blessing and a curse.

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    The question is, how human will the future human race actually be? The present level of interference with what would have been natural evolution is unprecedented.Our very DNA is being messed with (once again), and if the threats of AI and transhumanism manifest as they could, the results will be far worse than industrialization caused. The alien threat appears to be greater than ever, though perhaps that will prove to be balanced out by benevolent alien help. I sometimes think that is our only hope.
    But I just rediscovered this thread (or rather, the last pages of it):http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...othesis/page50
    ...which registers to me thematically as being along the lines of the basic premise of The Law of One (however much that's been discredited for other reasons) --that those on the left hand path can only get so far before they have to essentially reform, and for those who are affected by their machinations before that happens, there are self-correcting processes in the organic system that are helpful.

    I used to take a lot of comfort in this way of thinking until I decided I was being a bit smug and naive and so had to come up with more tangible, practical solutions to our current collective dilemma, such as environmental activism, volunteerism, etc. All good, but it's not good when one loses sight of the whole picture by focusing in too much on specifics.

    Time for some expansion again, perhaps.
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    All the promises we've been hearing from Trump and Q about indictments, etc. are serving as a great way to keep the public distracted and off guard while 5G is being rolled out, among other things.
    Once that is accomplished, resistance is going to be much more ineffectual.
    But I can't imagine that the elites are leaving themselves unprotected from 5G.
    They must have buffering devices of some kind and if it ever gets out what they are, there will be a huge market for them.
    Much better of course, if 5G is simply stopped.
    Bob's post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1250035 is no exaggeration.
    Hi OnaWah and the Group -

    i could be more general by saying all frequencies from transmitters from about 450 megaHertz and above up to terahertz frequencies, (however allowing Infra-Red, and visible Light to be used for two way, one-way, or burst transmissions, including "packet" ) should be banned from any appreciable signal output power at the transmitter greater than 10 milliwatts (EFFECTIVE RADIATED POWER or "ERP" levels from GAIN antennas would allow for no more than 100 milliwatts from the antenna.

    That would virtually shut down military, commercial TV, commercial satellite radio, cellphones, wireless routers, microwave point-to-point relays for communications..

    Longer wavelengths, frequencies lower than 450 megaHertz don't have any appreciable biological effect except for HEATING which comes when tissue is heated. Those lower frequencies penetrate but the multi-path impingement is more like walking into a "LEY LINE".. A sensitive can note a change in their nervous system when coming across such a multi-path radio frequency field zone, potentially it is reported as a dizzying feeling, or a push or a pull (those seeking such out in prospecting such as for water, call it the "dowsing effect"..

    The shorter wavelengths create more nodes because the distance between the wave's peaks are closer together, so slight movement of one's body, like breathing, or walking, moving the body around causes more nodes to sweep past nerves. Sorta imagine like being continually hit by a spray of water droplets, under your clothes, or like small ants crawling on or in your skin, or in your brain, or in your organs.. There is an induced stress by that outside sourced multi-path stimulation, a "chaotic" sensory "noise" happens.

    Over the years and years of studying this (I started my researches on this topic in about 1973) and studying those who understand psi weaponry... there is a solution.. Of all things kids have picked up on this and use this technique:


    Andrija Puharich having been one of the key researchers in PSI-Weapons and counter-measures developed this technique to counter the multi-path tissue stimulating effects:
    (http://www.teslar.com/Case%20Studies...ackground.html)

    the original watch designed by Puharich (there is no guarantee that ANY of the newer products manufactured by others have any measurable effect to counteract multi-path stimulation) generated a PACER electromagnetic signal.. the concept was, create a STRONGER but SAFER scalar (a stable multi-path signal) to drive the body's nervous system, sorta like listening to one's favorite music tends to drown out "outside interference"...



    The Puharich PACEER (teslar watch) then would be like a nervous system PACE-MAKER (as in how a pacemaker for the Heart can keep the heart going under chaotic conditions)..

    There are MORE ACTIVE not PASSIVE systems available and being developed.. THEY MUST have a stronger signal than the multi-path in the environment to keep a body's nervous system stable..
    Bob I find your posts about "multi-path" signals quite enlightening. Do you have any links on the subject that the non tech minded person might be able to understand?

    I'm trying to warn my friends about 5G yet the most common skeptical reaction I get is they don't know anyone who got cancer from cell phones and that cell phones don't ionize you.

    Now I tend to think these technologies are working in other dimensions too, hitting our energetic bodies not just our physical bodies. So the danger isn't that people are gonna get cancer or headaches right away. It's that these technologies are and have been shaping consciousness and DNA in imperceptible ways.

    We're not cattle to those with this technology. We're crops in a field that they cultivate, prune, and harvest. We've witness that pruning in recent years as many minds have become more enmeshed in reactionary ego, the lower self, tribalism. Trump is a lightning rod for that, both those who love him and hate him. The real enemies are the forces of regression further breaking consciousness down.

    Just years ago, 2012 had some kooky ideas yet people were more open minded to looking at the big picture. That reality has more layers than the material world. That we're a fishbowl inside an ocean (and we the myopic fish constantly attack the mirror in the bowl). There's an ocean yet look at how our attention gets caught and fixated.

    The forces of regression and their psychopathic vessels are shaping our minds with these technologies and we don't realize it because we're hooked by the Pavlovian rewards we get. If we're not distracting ourselves by fighting with the mirror in the fishbowl we're caught by the colored rocks on the floor.

    The Aquarian age which we are moving into - the precession of the equinoxes - will have its own problems. The Aquarian version of hell (replacing the Piscean hell) is not going to be some post apocalyptic thing like you see in Mad Max. It's gonna wear a smiling face yet be cold, vacuous, and soulless at the same time. Rather than epic last lands we're gonna see people continue to unconsciously and slowly give their will and consent away.

    Religious people might like the metaphor of lucifer (alluring yet cold empty light) doing PR for satan (the darkness you get when you don't actually examine what you're buying into). For the non religious it's like a black hole. If you got close enough to one you might see a pretty ring of light around it. That would be the last thing you see.

    The Piscean hell brought us projections from our own shadow sides and codependency on external gods-"You are not complete unless you worship this god which is outside of you". It brought us "big daddy" authoritarian figures like institutionalized religion and brutal crusades. The psychopaths took advantage of the Piscean urge to find completion through or a mirror of projection on the "other". They are already taking advantage of Aquarian archetypes.

    The same regressive forces that brought institutionalized religion to the world are bringing atheistic technocracy. They don't care about the truths that might be found in religious studies. Just as most politicians don't care about the virtuous words they use to draw favor. The psychopaths wear cloaks of bright appeal, they use these things as means for control that fit the age we are in. Every time the age shifts the control tactics shift.

    The same forces that have been in control for ages are still in control and will continue to be unless something different happens in this "cycle"... Which would be great. Ideally we all, including the psychopaths/lackeys and the archons controlling them find a constructive way out of this karmic time loop. The reality is often that we're the fish in the churning fish bowl just struggling to survive.

    There is a Dark Side to the Aquarian Age
    Quote Many prophets in the past ten thousand years foresaw something akin to a one-world government. A common projection of the New Age movement is living “happily ever after” the millennium. But those who covet power won’t just disappear by the wave of some plastic magic wand bought from a New Age bookstore. Nor will a weekend spent chanting in some high-powered energy spot on some auspicious date in the Mayan calendar sing away the Will to Power Blues for the next twenty centuries.
    How The Watchmen is using Tarot and Astrological Symbolism to show the Precession of the Equinoxes
    Quote Why does each Precessional Age begin with the symbolic sacrificing of the previous Age followed by a new religion? I personally do not see why it needs to be done this way every 2000 years. One can honor Pisces just as one can honor Aquarius, and we do not need to blow up towers, blow up the subconscious, and simply destroy everything "Piscean" to make some kind of sick point or "transition." The only way to really understand this is to make a study of psychopaths in high places who are decidedly obsessed with two things; the occult and control. Psychopaths are generally experts at making things look great on the surface with lots of shine and sheen while keeping the darker inner core of control mechanisms thoroughly hidden. The psychological problems that may occur with normal people living in a world "run" by psychopaths is that the normal person may inadvertently begin to identify with that mentality. There is a problem when every day, normal people begin to emulate the psychopathic control grid
    Trump is not gonna stop 5G. It gives him an ego boost to be the president who will implement 5G. Just as it gave Obama an ego boost to sign "Obama" care. Just as it gave Bush an ego boost to sign the "patriot" act.

    We assign more depth and intelligence to our bread and circus leaders than they have. If only we believed in each other that much. The negative agendas are comprised of people unconscious of what they're actually contributing to. Some of them get aggrandizement to be narcissistic cogs in the machine. They're self-less and without or in denial of true self, not selfless.

    Following and giving positive belief to those without authenticity, without soul, is a bad idea yet like abused un-significant others we keep returning to our wishful thinking like our ancestors before us. We're not just dealing with the current tip of the iceberg of control. We're all at least in part products of the misdirection and enslavement of our ancestral pasts.

    THAT said, try saying any of that to someone who is getting their informative view of reality from Fox or CNN.

    People don't like being disturbed in their bubbles. They like to zone out even if the fish bowl is assimilating them into something against their own best interests. Some of them will go out of their way to tell you how you're wrong and need to be in their bubble. Like sleepwalkers trying to correct the awake back into sleep. They don't realize they're the ones who are asleep.

    So this "multi-path" stuff could be important in waking people up. I'm intrigued and will keep following your posts Bob. It seems to be good science and doesn't hit people over the head with all the shocks of the bigger picture (causing them to shut down). The truth is usually a lot worse than our subjective minds realize, and yet it's also a lot better. There's always possibilities for the better if we keep educating ourselves, keep constructively open minds, and do our self work.

    Everyone starts somewhere. Our biggest enemy is us being unconscious of ourselves and reality. That allows regressive or negative influences to have sway over us.

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    But there are safer technologies that are not being used, and I think eventually that will have to change. We can do something about that end of it, hopefully. The human race just can't adapt quickly enough to all this energy smog, the elites included.
    Not all can adapt, but, as with prior scourges on humanity, such as wood or coal smog in the air, lead in the water, deficiencies in the food, inadequate sanitation and clean water supplies, weather extremes, volcanoes and earthquakes, wars, famine, and pestilence, ... the human race survives, or at least has so far.

    We each do what we can and will do to improve the lot of all of ourselves, our friends, family and neighbors, and of humanity in general.

    Some, such as perhaps yourself, do far more than most, sometimes because life's challenges have made those more aware of the problems. Such challenges are often both a blessing and a curse.
    Paul I agree it's business as usual, and that we must all do the best we can and help each other when we can. Good will is incredibly important! Especially in this stressful modern age where it's so easy to be ill willed/galvanized/egotistic/reactionary like is happening with social issues. Simply harboring good will, and gratitude, and the will to help each other (when asked for) can be so powerful.

    My current opinion on the situation differs from it being more of the same because the negative technology or negative use of technology is more artificial than filling the air with soot or lead. It's not just a physical attack on our health. It's a brute yet sophisticated attack on the mechanisms of consciousness in this 3D world and maybe on our energy bodies, parts of ourselves which exist beyond material world perception. That can't be good for humans, animals, nature, anything on this planet.

    It's greatly unsustainable to fill the planet with electro smog.

    The last time the planet has seen these technological attempts for total control was probably the fall of Atlantis. The thing is a sane person will study the myths of self destroyed ancient civilizations and be stopped sober in their tracks like "We should not walk those steps"

    The psychopath sees the same myths and says, "I want that control and power for myself. I don't care how many times it failed. THIS time it will work".

    We're STILL a mess from the cataclysms that happened in our collective past, we still carry the trauma. Yet the power and control addicted continue to traumatize and fragment souls and planet. Soul fragments are easier to control and the psychopath's archonic "gods" feed off of them, "gods" which they believe give them power and right to rule.

    The whole situation is tragic. My compassion is with those who have to suffer the most from the negativity put upon our beautiful planet and the beautiful human soul.

    My basic advice is seek natural and grounded means to balance the body. Plants, crystals, grounding - most of which has already been suggested already. Get in touch with your Self and nature, with a grateful heart and reverent mind for whatever positive higher power you believe in.

    The "dark" side is full of those fighting their true Selves and choosing non existence. That tells us a lot about what the enemy is, what they run from, and what to tune into.
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    ACTIVE DENIAL SYSTEM 5G RADIATION WEAPON
    March 13, 2018
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    From Alexandra Bruce:
    "Here’s an infomercial about millimeter-wave ADS nonlethal weapons brought to you by your Tax Dollars. There have been concerns raised about whether the new 5G wireless network that’s being rolled out could be weaponized into an ADS grid. We’re going to do a little science lesson, comparing the radiation from ADS weapons, microwave ovens, WiFi, cell phones and SmartMeters to try to get to the bottom of this.

    The difference in wavelength between the telecom’s 38 GHz and the military’s 95 GHz is not that great since all of this is in the 1-millimeter frequency band. What differentiates a weapon from a cell tower has to do with microwave density or power.

    The Active Denial System (ADS) featured here works by firing a high-powered, focused, free-electron maser beam of 95 GHz waves at a target, which corresponds to a wavelength of 3.2 mm. The beam is produced by a gyrotron, a linear-beam vacuum tube which generates high-frequency electromagnetic radiation by stimulated cyclotron resonance of electrons moving through a strong magnetic field.

    The action of the ADS millimeter wave energy beam is comparable to that of a microwave oven, in that it excites the water and fat molecules in the skin, instantly heating them. However, the short millimeter waves used in ADS penetrate only the top layers of skin, with most of the energy being absorbed within 0.4 mm (0.0156 inch), whereas microwaves, which use the much lower frequency (and longer wavelength) of 2.45 GHz can penetrate much deeper into human tissue to about 17 mm (0.67 inch).

    The longer waves of a microwave oven can penetrate food (and human bodies) easily – and cook them, if the density is high enough. The microwaves used for WiFi routers are in the same range as microwave ovens but the density of their transmission is much lower. The health risks associated with WiFi are due to the microwave radiation being constant, with longer waves that can penetrate into the body and produce cellular changes over time. Cell phones and smart meters operate in the range of 2.8 GHz to 900 MHz, which can penetrate even deeper into the body than WiFi.

    Because the frequencies used in 5G cannot travel long distances, the network requires more towers closer together. The proposed implementation of 5G in California will require 50,000 new cell towers, 100- to 300 meters apart.

    The million-dollar question might seem to be: Could 5G cell tower transmissions be adjusted to send much more powerful beams of high density microwaves toward you or a crowd of people, such as is done with the ADS? The immediate answer is no, the standard antennas being used could not produce the microwave density of the military’s ADS weapon without burning themselves up.

    Still, very little is known about longterm exposure to the existing levels of radiation in the 28 GHz, 38 GHz or the 95 GHz range, especially when pulsed, as with SmartMeters. What is known is that microwave radiation from devices in the 900 MHz to 3 GHz frequency range can cause many symptoms of distress and illness in those who are electro-sensitive.

    The real million-dollar question might then become: Can the existing and proposed wireless networks be used as carrier frequencies to induce brainwave entrainment in conjunction with the silent sound spread spectrum (SSSS)? Another million dollar question might be whether or not the rampant SmartPhone addiction that we see isn’t already a result of such brainwave entrainment?

    Dr. Ellis Evans at NaturalBlaze.com notes that the media is generally silent about such high-security issues but that during times of war, the braggadocio of the military can surface, as it did during the first war in Iraq on March 21, 1991, on the UK’s ITV News Channel:

    “An unbelievable and highly classified psy-ops program utilizing ‘Silent Sound’ techniques was successfully deployed. The opportunity to use this method occurred when Saddam Hussein’s military command-and-control system was destroyed. The Iraqi troops were then forced to use commercial FM radio stations to carry encoded commands, which were broadcast on the 100 MHz frequency. The US psy-ops team set up its own portable FM transmitter, utilizing the same frequency, in the deserted city of Al Khafji. This US transmitter overpowered the local Iraqi station. Along with patriotic and religious music, psy-ops transmitted ‘vague, confusing and contradictory military orders and information. Subliminally, a much more powerful technology was at work, however. A sophisticated electronic system designed to ‘speak’ directly to the mind of the listener; to alter and entrain his brainwaves, to manipulate his brain’s electroencephalographic (EEG) patterns and thus artificially implant negative emotional states —- feelings of intense fear, anxiety, despair and hopelessness were created in the Iraqi troops. This incredibly effective subliminal system doesn’t just tell a person to feel an emotion, it makes them feel it; it implants that emotion in their minds.”

    Over 200,000 battle-hardened Iraqi Republican Guards surrendered without a single shot being fired. Who’s to say that this incredibly effective technology isn’t being used elsewhere using different applications?

    I will continue to study this subject and report back."

    From the youtube page:
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    Published on Jan 7, 2015
    "The Advanced Denial System (ADS) is a focused beam of electromagnetic radiation that heats human skin painfully in order to disperse targeted individuals. The Solid State Active Denial Technology (SS-ADT) is a mobile system being developed by the U.S. Army to be deployed on vehicles.

    Film Credits: Sgt Justin Boling, Cpl Clayton Filipowicz, SGT Brittany Fogel"
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    I'd point out some technical inaccuracies about Active Denial, there is no "maser" being used.

    Quote ACTIVE DENIAL SYSTEM 5G RADIATION WEAPON
    ADS is not a "5G radiation weapon". That article title is totally wrong, and misleading.

    A maser is used as a RECEIVING DEVICE as was developed in the late 1950's for amplifying very weak deep space radio waves. It sounds like "laser" so my feeling is the author chose that word to create some woo woo sensationalism. One doesn't need a MASER (receiving device) in a high powered TRANSMITTER, as the ADS system is not designed to RECEIVE anything. The author in the cited article, it seems to me appears to have copied and pieced together pieces of "techno-babble" (slang term for useless pieces of data that prove nothing, or serve as a distraction from coherent conversation) from Wikipedia and to me sure seems that they don't have the technical expertise to know exactly what they are talking about such as ADS/Masers/WLan's, 5G Networks. I would not consider that article worthwhile as being "informative" and most certainly I absolutely feel is not "a primer" to teach anyone anything except maybe for fear or anger to "rabble rouse" for a cause.. one that is insufficiently technically explained to be useful helping one determine for pro or con, should 5G be deployed worldwide. IMHO.

    Quote Here’s an infomercial about millimeter-wave ADS nonlethal weapons brought to you by your Tax Dollars.
    The US military did NOT DEVELOP ADS (Active Denial weapons systems) - Raytheon developed it, and they are a private corporation.

    Quote The action of the ADS millimeter wave energy beam is comparable to that of a microwave oven, in that it excites the water and fat molecules in the skin,
    It is not similar to one's home microwave oven, not by a long shot. One's microwave oven uses the frequency of 2,450 MHz, the wavelength of microwave oven radiation is about 12 cm, and the wattage of the home microwave oven is typically 250 watts through 1000 watts for the more professional versions. The microwave oven is illuminating food within a small cavity, and is totally shielded. One cannot equate an open antenna ADS with one's shielded closed microwave oven.

    Active DENIAL SYSTEM uses an output of 100,000 watts and a highly directed antenna designed to put a very narrow beam on the target.

    Quote ADS millimeter wave energy beam is comparable to that of a microwave oven, in that it excites the water and fat molecules in the skin, instantly heating them.
    It cannot be compared as the wavelengths are just too different. Furthermore Microwave ovens cook food by generating inter-molecular friction between the water molecules of the food. The microwaves cause water molecules to vibrate; the increased friction between the molecules results in heat. Any dielectric which can trap electromagnetic energy can be heated up by radio frequencies. It is when those molecules excessively vibrate by the excitation that heat forms. Teflon for instance is mostly transparent to microwaves. Bakelite plastic offers resistance to microwaves, and allows absorption, and therefore heats up with radio frequencies passing into it.

    Quote The longer waves of a microwave oven can penetrate food (and human bodies) easily – and cook them, if the density is high enough.
    Sensationalism - the size of the microwave oven cavity is SMALL, and the microwave oven will NOT WORK when the shielded door is opened. NO HUMAN will be cooked in one's microwave oven, the sensationalism is misleading and trying to create in the mind of the reader that ADS will cook you like your microwave oven will cook you - about as far from the truth as pots of gold at the end of rainbows..

    Quote However, the short millimeter waves used in ADS penetrate only the top layers of skin, with most of the energy being absorbed within 0.4 mm (0.0156 inch), whereas microwaves, which use the much lower frequency (and longer wavelength) of 2.45 GHz can penetrate much deeper into human tissue to about 17 mm (0.67 inch).
    Extremely misleading - one is NEVER exposed to microwaves from one's microwave oven. 2.45 gigahertz wavelengths can penetrate average flesh to 113 mm (4.44 inches). The thickness of the epidermis (skin) is typically from 0.5mm thick on the eyelids to 4.0mm thick on the heels of your feet.

    A 95 gigahertz microwave ADS system is reported to have a penetration depth for localized HEATING sensation to 0.4 mm (0.0156 inch).. Therefore the ADS will not even penetrate the eyelids, some of the most sensitive areas of the body.

    Quote The longer waves of a microwave oven can penetrate food (and human bodies) easily – and cook them, if the density is high enough.
    Sensationalistic misdirection - Nobody is being exposed to one's microwave oven. POWER from a microwave source measured at a location, dramatically reduces over distance. Nobody is being exposed to microwave oven power levels unless one is literally very close, about 20 centimeters directly in-front of, some long-haul microwave tower's transmitting antenna which could have over 500 watts output at the surface of the antenna. Those types of microwave long haul antennas are usually placed many hundreds of feet above ground level. MOST cellular towers at the antenna are 100 watts or less !

    Quote Because the frequencies used in 5G cannot travel long distances, the network requires more towers closer together.
    This is totally incorrect. Signals from satellites travel easily 22,000 MILES distance within these bands. There is attenuation from WATER vapor and RAIN - 5G is more susceptable to RAIN OUTAGES.. AND the power levels of 5G systems are hundreds of times LESS POWER than existing cellphone/routers/modems !

    Quote The microwaves used for WiFi routers are in the same range as microwave ovens but the density of their transmission is much lower. The health risks associated with WiFi are due to the microwave radiation being constant, with longer waves that can penetrate into the body and produce cellular changes over time. Cell phones and smart meters operate in the range of 2.8 GHz to 900 MHz, which can penetrate even deeper into the body than WiFi.
    This statement starts with a programmed mindset that humans are being cooked by microwave ovens; that is the mental programming to induce fear and outrage (fear porn/outrage porn) and cover up the point that there is NO heating from 5G hand-held or even tower systems, or satellite systems. The author it seems to me obviously has no clue about packet transmission or spread spectrum on WLANs and routers. The transmissions are not "constant"; they are intermittent, and there is absolutely NO HEATING effect which is what the author was trying to convince people was worrisome about "microwave systems, including starting the sensationalism by using ADS in the same mindset" as ultra-low power 5G telecommunications systems all throughout their article. It boggles the mind if one is technically oriented and actually has done the background on the subjects discussed. I assume for a lay person, one may fall into the fear porn and jump onto the bandwagon having had many buttons pressed...especially when one is being told they are listening to testimony from an "expert" sounding person...

    Quote The million-dollar question might seem to be: Could 5G cell tower transmissions be adjusted to send much more powerful beams of high density microwaves toward you or a crowd of people, such as is done with the ADS? The immediate answer is no, the standard antennas being used could not produce the microwave density of the military’s ADS weapon without burning themselves up.

    Still, very little is known about longterm exposure to the existing levels of radiation in the 28 GHz, 38 GHz or the 95 GHz range, especially when pulsed, as with SmartMeters. What is known is that microwave radiation from devices in the 900 MHz to 3 GHz frequency range can cause many symptoms of distress and illness in those who are electro-sensitive.
    The author here is finally starting to make some sense. 5G systems being hundreds of times lower power cannot be adjusted upwards without damaging the hardware itself.

    That is perfectly adequate and that the power levels from the 5G transmitters are so much lower than existing telecommunications systems transmitters output power levels (which don't heat up tissue), therefore discussing heating from ADS and no heat from 5G is essentially a NON-POINT - apples and rainbows.

    Hundreds of times MORE 5G repeaters will be needed everywhere to saturate the area, and no doubt low altitude orbiting satellites will be picking up and rebroadcasting 5G signals in a form of MESH NETWORK to provide full coverage. A repeater can be a cellphone itself, there is no need for a TOWER in 5G to be the SOLE SOURCE of data transmission (or rebroadcast as in a MESH network configuration). So again, the author of the report it appears to me doesn't quite understand how a 5G network works. Nor how data can be relayed from cellphone or other 5G device to another, thereby bypassing a "tower" transceiver.

    The question that the author goes into afterwards after shooting themselves in the foot so to speak numerous times, (there is no power level worries to be alarmed about with 5G), is can it (5G) be setup to become psychoactive? Silent-Sound has nothing to do with 1G 2G 3G 4G or 5G. Putting a psychotronic signal into a MAGNETIC TAPE recording is very much different than trying to broadcast a psychoactive signal onto a cell tower signal (which is intermittent and consists of pulses, and packets).

    Bioactivity: It has been pointed out WHY microwaves or Electromagnetic signals from 450 megahertz and upwards can be perceived. It was pointed out that those frequencies are subjected to bouncing. During the bounce, with a direct signal and the bounce signal interacting, at the point of interaction within a dielectric medium, a new component is formed, a "scalar component", and when that component moves across nerve endings, the nerves will detect such (the movement happens because the bouncing waves and direct waves are in the dielectric (the body for instance) coming in from some location, and the body is moving sometimes ever so slightly with respect to that location). It doesn't take much movement of the body, such as shifting position, breathing or heart beating to have those complex signals (and resulting scalars) "move around" across the nerves, at these short "microwave" wavelengths. That the scalar components can RESET the trip level point across a nerve synapse, the brain will register changes in perception or have ghost-like "something touched me" sensations, or sensations of hot, cold, arbitrary clicks or auditory and/or visual hallucinations. It can become unbearable to those folks sensitive to such minute nervous system patterns "shifting" or no longer being "constant" (meaning the way the body would normally be without outside interference messing with the nerves).

    No body is going to be able to create a stable "voices in the head" type of transmission from 5G, or any of the "G's" telecommunications because the reflections are NOT stable, not sufficiently coherent to allow for intelligence to be conveyed (a secret transmission ability).

    That does NOT mean that there are NOT systems designed which DO have the coherence, and do have stable reflections, and ARE weapons systems.. 5G tho or any of the G's is just not capable of doing that. It can't by the nature of it's packet/pulse style of transmission.

    ref: MASER - Invention of the Maser. Charles Townes' pair of papers on the first maser in 1954 and 1955. Charles Townes and his colleagues were the first to build a “maser,” which operated in the microwave frequency range. It's function was to amplify the extremely weak signal received from deep space spacecraft and maintain communication.

    ref: spread-spectrum frequency hopping, non-continuous transmission, data packets - Wi-Fi protocols utilize both frequency hopping (FHSS) and direct sequence (DSSS) spread spectrum. One is using a psuedo-random packet data sequence to spread the signal spectrum out, and allow multiple communication links at the same frequency. This is widely used in WiFi, as well as cell phones, GPS, and deep space communications.

    Example of a WLAN router signal going across the airwaves: (Hardly continuous, it consists of transmission bursts as seen below in addition, the frequency is continually changing (spread spectrum); note in the diagram, that the transmitter is switching on/off/on/off with respect to the data.)

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    Hi UniverSoul -

    Quote Bob I find your posts about "multi-path" signals quite enlightening. Do you have any links on the subject that the non tech minded person might be able to understand?
    The last 4 paragraphs from my post directly above go into that a bit more, instead of using the word, "multipath", I used the word "bounce". That may be easier to relate to. Multipath is kinda technical-ese.

    Here is a short simple video: Pay attention to the words destructive, interfering, and phase shifting of the signal..

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    Alexandra Bruce needs to read this thread! I've sent her a PM. Thanks for the scientific input, guys.
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    Here is an article that better explains, in my view, where 5G is going: 5G offers world’s biggest mobile market a gateway to the industrial internet (South China Morning Post).

    Notice that China is a leading nation, in developing the technology, and in deploying it. The intent is to integrate society in a higher bandwidth, faster response, information grid that includes:
    1. Transportation, such as driverless cars.
    2. Industrial automation, including robotics and supply chain management.
    3. Health care, including real time sensors in the body.
    4. Virtual reality, including social engagement, education and telemedicine.
    5. Smart cities, including automated utilities and transportation.
    Humanity will become closely integrated with a technological grid.

    China, South Korea, the US, and the UK will have some 5G deployments in place by next year, 2019.

    Other nations, including Japan, India, Russia, France and Australia will have some 5G deployments in 2020.

    By 2023, there is expected to be about 1 billion 5G mobile subscribers in the world, roughly equal to the current number of 3G subscribers. However 4G subscribers will still dominate in 2023, with 4 billion mobile subscribers world-wide.

    From the article itself:

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    CHINA IS LEADING THE RACE

    Since 2015, China has outspent the US by US$24 billion in wireless communications infrastructure, according to a Deloitte study. It found China’s three network operators have built 350,000 new cell phone tower sites, while the US has set up fewer than 30,000 in the same time frame. China, which has the world’s largest smartphone market and internet population, has projected 5G mobile network investments to reach about US$405 billion from 2020 to 2030.

    Trial cities in China

    The country’s three telecoms operators are piloting 5G in more than a dozen cities
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