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    Default Re: SpaceX's [...] Falcon 9 Launch: Mysterious ZUMA [failed] mission

    Certainly, but this thread was used. Yes such a reusable, heavy lift vehicle by a PRIVATE non-governmental organization is great for CIVILIAN space flight. But somebody is going to pay the bill, such as for launches to the Space Station, (possibly then stopping using the Russian launch vehicles)..

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    Default Re: SpaceX's [...] Falcon 9 Launch: Mysterious ZUMA [failed] mission

    Could these two stories be related?

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    North Korean Super Volcano On Brink Of Eruption Scientists Warn

    Published 24th February 2018

    Supervolcanoes are volcanoes that spread over miles in diameter. For instance Yellowstone is one of the largest known volcanoes in the world and the largest volcanic system in North America.

    Supervolcanoes like this one pass unnoticed because it is at ground level. If it were to go off, North America, or more like the entire North Hemisphere would be affected.

    Now the said North Korean supervolcano, Mount Paektu, rises to 9000 ft high and its caldera is a lake of about 8 miles across. The magma chamber underneath thus has gigantic dimensions, and its vertical conduit is even more problematic.

    The danger comes from two simultaneous causes. The first one comes from the fact that Korean military has a nuclear test ground in the vicinity. The second is that scientists have studied Mt Paektu’s behavior and activity, leading to the conclusion that it is theoretically ready to unleash its pressure.

    Supervolcanoes have long been thought to be triggered by meteorite impacts, rippling Earth’s crust and building up its magma chamber’s pressure to the breaking point, but new worrying studies indicate that it is not the case. A behemoth volcano like the ones cited here can explode without prior stimulation in a matter of days. If nuclear detonations in the test ground territory were to shake the ground enough to tickle the supervolcano, it might be enough to trigger the upholding eruption. The cataclysmic magma and sulfur eruptions that would result would then endanger life itself on the entire planet.

    Read all about it here: http://yournewswire.com/north-korea-...o-catastrophe/ & http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/11/e1600913

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    Default Re: SpaceX's [...] Falcon 9 Launch: Mysterious ZUMA [failed] mission

    And the finger is being pointed at Northrop Grumman for the failure of the Zuma satellite....

    Quote Northrop Grumman, not SpaceX, reported to be at fault for loss of top-secret Zuma satellite
    Michael Sheetz18 Hours Ago | 00:43

    Northrop Grumman built and operated the components that failed during the controversial January launch of the U.S. spy satellite known as Zuma, according to a Wall Street Journal report Sunday.

    Two independent investigations, made up of federal and industry officials, pointed to Northrop's payload adapter as the cause of the satellite's loss, the report said, citing people familiar with the probes. The payload adapter is a key part of deploying a satellite in orbit, connecting the satellite to the upper stage of a rocket.

    Zuma is believed to have cost around $3.5 billion to develop, according to the report. The satellite was funded through a process that received a lesser degree of oversight from Congress compared with similar national security-related satellites, industry officials said.

    Northrop Grumman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    While it is still unknown which agency Zuma was built to serve, both the Pentagon and Northrop have repeatedly declined to provide details about the mission. SpaceX, which launched the mission aboard a Falcon 9 rocket, repeatedly defended its equipment in the aftermath, rebuking claims that Elon Musk's space company was to blame.

    "For clarity: after review of all data to date, Falcon 9 did everything correctly," Gwynne Shotwell, president and COO of SpaceX, said in a statement to CNBC. "Information published that is contrary to this statement is categorically false. Due to the classified nature of the payload, no further comment is possible."

    The U.S. Air Force appeared to back SpaceX in the weeks following Zuma, saying it did not expect to change the company's approval to launch military satellites.

    "Based on the data available, our team did not identify any information that would change SpaceX's Falcon 9 certification status," Lt. Gen. John Thompson, commander of the Space and Missile Systems Center, said in a statement.

    The investigations tentatively concluded that onboard sensors did not immediately communicate to ground systems that the satellite did not separate from the rocket, according to the Journal. Unbeknownst to officials at the time, the planned return of the rocket's upper stage — a method of disposal to avoid adding space debris around the Earth — brought the satellite back down with it. By the time the satellite separated from the rocket it was too late, putting Zuma too low in orbit to save, according to the report.

    The unique design of Zuma, according to officials, means it was built in such a way that made it particularly fragile. Northrop reportedly modified its payload adapter to help absorb vibrations that might damage the satellite. While those modifications remain unspecified, payload adapters traditionally use small, controlled explosives to release satellites from a rocket's upper stage.

    Officials believe Zuma fell into the Indian Ocean, the report said. Zuma was the first launch for SpaceX this year, and the company has since launched six additional successful missions.
    From here: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/09/nort...satellite.html


    Maybe they agreed to “take the fall” given the contract for drones that has just come their way:

    Quote U.S. State Dept OKs possible $2.5 billion sale of military drones to Germany
    Reuters | Apr 05, 2018 04:50PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department has approved the possible sale of Triton unmanned aircraft systems to Germany for an estimated cost of $2.5 billion, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

    Northrop Grumman Corp (NYSE:NOC) and Airbus Defence and Space, a unit of Airbus SE, are the prime contractors, the Pentagon statement said.

    "The proposed sale of the MQ-4C Triton will close a crucial capability gap and will enhance bilateral and NATO interoperability and will help ensure that Germany is able to continue to monitor and deter regional threats," the statement said.
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    Default Re: SpaceX's [...] Falcon 9 Launch: Mysterious ZUMA [failed] mission

    Maybe the most beautiful shot of Falcon 9 Launch

    https://i.imgur.com/UDS9eiQ.gifv

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    Maybe the most beautiful shot of Falcon 9 Launch

    https://i.imgur.com/UDS9eiQ.gifv
    It looks like it's busting through a dimensional barrier.

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