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    Default Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    The crimes were sick but its the context of the times the end of the 1960's was
    just as violent and contradictory as today as ' free love and drugs' collided with
    war , JFK & other assassinations , Vietnam , MK Ultra , space race etc much like
    today as history constantly repeats itself....The documentary below goes into it.




    Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison

    6 minutes ago
    From the section US & Canada...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42016704

    short vid on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42016704
    Charles Manson's followers carried out murders on his orders

    Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader who directed his followers to commit a string
    of brutal murders, and who became a symbol of the dark side of 1960s counterculture,
    has died aged 83.

    Manson was admitted to Bakersfield hospital, California earlier this month and died of
    natural causes on Sunday.

    In 1969, his followers, known as the Manson family, killed seven people.

    Among the victims of the killing spree was heavily pregnant Hollywood actress Sharon
    Tate, wife of Roman Polanski.

    Four other people at her home were also brutally stabbed to death. The next day, a
    wealthy couple in Los Angeles were also killed by the clan. The killings became known
    collectively as the Tate-LaBianca murders.


    read more....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42016704

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    Charles Manson dead at 83


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    Top 10 Craziest Things Charles Manson Has Ever Said
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    There are a lot of crazy Charles Manson quotes circulating the internet. The cult
    leader of the infamous Manson Family was convicted of the murder of Sharon Tate
    and several others, and he’s famous for a kind of Charles Manson philosophy.
    Whether he’s talking about Helter Skelter, claiming he never killed anyone or
    speaking gibberish, the most bizarre things Charles Manson has ever said are
    certainly out there. WatchMojo counts down ten of the weirdest things Charles Manson has said over the years.

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    Manson: The Man Who Killed The 60s (History Documentary) - Real Stories



    Published on 10 Nov 2016
    The events of the night of 9th August, 1969 changed the face of the ’60s. The
    brutal murders of beautiful starlet Sharon Tate and her friends shocked the world,
    and when the Manson Family murderers were found, flower-power culture came
    under the spotlight. The Family had long hair, took illicit drugs and lived in a
    commune. To middle class, right-wing America, they encapsulated everything
    threatening about hippiedom. Witness reveals how establishment figures
    manipulated the Manson murders to discredit the flower-power generation.
    Fascinating archive footage shows the escalating violence of the period and, in a
    rare interview from jail, Manson himself recalls the turbulent events that ended the era.
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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    Sometimes the cover of my newspaper makes me smile with the take on the story.

    Like today.
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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    Quote Posted by mgray (here)
    Sometimes the cover of my newspaper makes me smile with the take on the story. Like today.
    ..............

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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    Let's hope as he dissolves he evolves in a positive way...
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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    When the msm pushes a certain narritive, it is often cause for a closer look:


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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    we are in " helter skelter revealing, he's no longer needed here

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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    I hope in the next life , he evolves past hurting people and decides to help people...
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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    Loads of chicks liked Charlie, make of that what you will.

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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    Quote Loads of chicks liked Charlie, make of that what you will.
    It was the era of free love and women's lib, he was the classic bad boy with
    attitude plus they were drugged up but not stoned in the peaceful hippy way
    which was coming to an end.

    To understand what happened you have to look what was happening in the
    US/world at the time. Today is as bad unfortunately , as we have been witnessing
    with recent mass murder and terror events , whether real or manipulated.

    For Many, Manson Cult Killings Ended Era of Love


    Published on 20 Nov 2017
    In summer 1969, a scruffy ex-convict with a magnetic hold on young women sent
    some of his disciples into the night to carry out a series of gruesome killings. In so
    doing, Charles Manson became the face of evil on front pages across America. (Nov. 20)




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    Sex , Drugs and Rock and Roll , I became aware of this quite young even living
    in sleepy somerset I was 12/13 when me and my mates watched David Essex
    star in two movies at our local cinema. That'll be the Day and Stardust charting
    Jim MacLaine rise and fall of a rock star . Echoing what was going on in the 1960's
    and 70's with the many groups and rock stars who were pushing the boundaries
    of society . We all knew what was going on with the sex and drug parties , groupies
    etc , the comedy was bawdy and things were different as the austerity of the post
    WW11 was coming to an end and fashion , expression and many cultural taboos
    clashed in a kaleidoscope of rebellious out pouring in all parts of society in Europe
    and the US. Even though the cold war was at it height , South East Asia was a blaze
    and the Middle East was in deadlock , Northern Ireland and the troubles had
    kicked off and the Soviet Union was beginning to shows signs of crumbling.....

    All in all it was just as bad as today with the war on terror , North Korea ,
    Middle East , Ukraine Russia all tension spots and domestically the US
    /UK have political, sexual , financial scandals going on just like the 1960's...



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    History does repeat itself.....Of course this is only the tip of the ice burg now and back then...

    Los Angeles Police Department Is Cracking Down On Hollywood Sex Crimes | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVzrKW59X-g
    Published on 20 Nov 2017
    The Los Angeles Police have announced that they are looking into several cases of
    alleged sex crimes within the Hollywood system.
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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    Interesting my feelings in seeing how the media is portraying the evilness aspect and the rotting in hell mantra. I see Charles more a product of a lifetime in prison, in and out of adoption homes, abuse and street living with a short time out of the "system." Not saying he shouldnt pay for what happened but I dont see any unbiased view in the media. The media accused and sentenced Charles and probably influenced the verdict and it's like Charles is the scapegoat for evil.

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    MKUltra Operative Charles Manson Dead At 83



    Published on 20 Nov 2017....Info wars...
    The notorious murderer and cult leader Charles Manson who orchestrated the
    brutal killing of several people and preached about a future apocalyptic race
    war died November 19 at the age of 83.

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    The Grandfather Of ANTIFA Charles Manson Calls For World Government, 50 Million Dead

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJvxKggJg4U

    Published on 20 Nov 2017
    Alex Jones presents a video where Charles Manson is interviewed, while
    detained for his crimes, where he claims he wants one world government,
    and it's the only way to solve the world's problems.

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    Was it coincidental the murder of heavily pregnant Sharon Tate just a year
    after the cult satanic devil worshipping movie directed by her husband Roman
    Polanski hit the screens.....


    Rosemary's Baby is a 1968 American psychological horror film written and directed
    by Roman Polanski, based on the bestselling 1967 novel of the same name by Ira
    Levin. The cast features Mia Farrow, John Cassavetes, Ruth Gordon, Sidney
    Blackmer, Maurice Evans, Ralph Bellamy, Angela Dorian, Clay Tanner, and, in his
    feature film debut, Charles Grodin. The film chronicles the story of a pregnant
    woman who suspects that an evil cult wants to take her baby for use in their rituals.

    Rosemary's Baby earned almost universal acclaim from film critics and won
    numerous nominations and awards. In 2014, the film was selected for preservation
    in the National Film Registry by the Library of Congress, being deemed "culturally,
    historically, or aesthetically significant."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary%27s_Baby_(film)

    Sharon Tate Murder Satanic Sacrifice


    Published on 21 Feb 2015
    Charles Manson Said That The Tate Murder Done For Roman Polanski Gain.

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    Susan Atkins Interview (1976) - Description of Sharon Tate Murder (Manson murder)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-LiARYmqc
    Charles Manson 'disciple' talks candidly about her crimes and time with Manson.
    Fraternal Affairs by Morton Bain
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    Parole denied for convicted Manson follower Charles 'Tex' Watson

    By Matt Hamilton
    Oct 27, 2016

    A California review board denied parole Thursday to Charles “Tex” Watson, the self-
    described right-hand man of Charles Manson and a key figure in the Manson
    family’s 1969 killing spree in the Los Angeles area.

    Watson, 70, was initially sentenced to die in San Quentin's gas chamber for his part
    in the murder of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others. In 1973, his
    sentence was commuted to life in prison after the state Supreme Court ruled that
    the death penalty was unconstitutional.

    The panel's decision, reached late Thursday, marks the 17th time that Watson has
    been denied parole, according to Luis Patiño, a spokesman for the state
    Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. He'll be eligible for parole in five
    years.Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey condemned Watson after the
    parole board's decision was reached.

    http://beta.latimes.com/local/lanow/...027-story.html
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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Interesting my feelings in seeing how the media is portraying the evilness aspect and the rotting in hell mantra. I see Charles more a product of a lifetime in prison, in and out of adoption homes, abuse and street living with a short time out of the "system." Not saying he shouldnt pay for what happened but I dont see any unbiased view in the media. The media accused and sentenced Charles and probably influenced the verdict and it's like Charles is the scapegoat for evil.
    I was just about to post something similar. We made Charles. His mother was a prostitute, he was raised in the correctional system and then people wonder why he was the way he was. I am not saying he had no choice, but that was one hell of a way to start a life out. I can't say I would have turned out much better. It is the first 7 to 9 years of life that shapes who we are.

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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    ?
    The Tate Murders were a False Flag and the Greatest Unknown Success Story of Project CHAOS
    http://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf

    Also, I'm pretty sure there's a very compelling documentary that Miles or someone else did that I can't find again. If someone finds it, please post.

    ADDED: Warning of very graphic murder scenes in the pdf whether staged as claimed or real.
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    Charles Manson death: Where are the Family members now?

    20 November 2017
    From the section US & Canada


    Three female followers were tried alongside Manson: (L-R)
    Leslie Van Houten, Susan Atkins and Patricia Krenwinkel

    As members of Charles Manson's messianic cult, several
    of the so-called Family committed murders at his request.
    Mostly young women from middle-class backgrounds, they
    were convinced to join his Californian desert commune.

    Radicalised by his obsession with an imagined upcoming race
    war, Family members would kill nine people in the summer of 1969.

    His vision did not materialise, and he and his followers were
    tried for their crimes. But where are they now following their
    cult leader's death?


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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42056252

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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    As Terence McKenna said it, culture is your operating system.

    What kind of people does our spiritually lost western culture really create besides broken and dysfunctional humans?
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Opinion writers compare Charles Manson to President Trump



    Published on 21 Nov 2017
    'MediaBuzz' host Howard Kurtz explains on 'The Ingraham Angle.'
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    Opinion writers compare Charles Manson to President Trump ...
    You mean sore loser leftist opinion writers with oversized noses who for years and years gave all the former leftist presidents a gazillion passes for all their horrid words and actions who are now a relentless year now into obsession with spending their time concocting any way to contribute their arrogant hate, disrespect, and holier than thou loathing of the President while ignoring anything and everything positive whatsoever.... compare Charles Manson to Trump.

    But even that title given this clip is misleading because it's not even opinion writers saying anything, it's Fox news talking about the stupid story. But all the way around, repeating any of this has zero value.

    Sorry, I'm so sick and tired of this vapid hate rhetoric that's getting very, very old. Nothing more to learn from the haters, we would do more by completely ignoring it all so it fizzles from lack of fuel.

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    Charlie was Nobody, the Media made him a Somebody.
    When living in a country with free thought, you'll find many do not feel the need to think.

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    Default Re: Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

    From Richplanet TV, The Real Charles Manson, Part 1 of 3 -



    Part 2

    Part 3
    Never give up on your silly, silly dreams.

    You mustn't be afraid to dream a little BIGGER, darling.

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    Quote From Richplanet TV, The Real Charles Manson, Part 1 of 3 -
    Thanks Rachel I was just about to post this and its interesting Richard did this show
    recently...Its very thought provoking and gives a wider picture of what was going
    on around Manson and the context of the times from his early days , prison time,
    scientology , drugs , organised crime , corruption ,maffia , prostitutions , celebs
    and the music ind.....

    The archetypal sex, drugs , rock and roll combined with organised crime and fast
    and furious narcotic running, culminating in murder , cults, cover ups and notoriety


    'The Real Charles Manson'
    Skip to 13:50 for the beginning of the interview with Neil Sanders.


    Published on 1 Nov 2017
    On today’s show some brief comments on a few of the recent “terror” attacks and information
    about a campaign to remove the Queen from her throne. Richard talks to Neil Sanders about
    his latest book, “Now’s The Only Thing That’s Real”, which is a re-examination of the Manson
    murders, motives and mythos. Probably one of the most detailed books on the Manson murders,
    Neil Sanders reveals how Vincent Bogliosi (the prosecution lawyer) manipulated witnesses,
    silenced witnesses and promoted a wholly untrue narrative which was published in the media.
    Bogliosi’s fairy tales are responsible for the creation of a mythological version of the person
    known as Charles Manson. The truth about Charles Manson is poles apart from the messianic
    cult leader he was claimed to be. A “drug dealing criminal and pimp” is a more accurate description.


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    Quote But even that title given this clip is misleading because it's not even opinion writers saying anything,
    it's Fox news talking about the stupid story. But all the way around, repeating any of this has zero value.
    After watching the main five American news outlets daily for the last year its amazing how polarized they
    are MSNBC , CNN ,ABC and CBS unashamedly anti Trump and Fox News on the pro side. The article just
    shows how ridiculous most of the press are when it comes to the President its not only the news outlets
    but comedy , late night shows , daytime like The View and early one like morning Joe virtually everyday
    has anti Trump slant on anything they are discussing and comparing him to Manson is just silly and
    desperate. It was a throw away segment from Fox but typical of what is going on.

    I know you know this but it maybe of interest to some reading the thread......


    Mark Steyn standing in for Tucker comments on the Manson/Trump BS....aprox
    16mins in....The whole show is surreal as summed up by Mark and his guests...

    Tucker Carlson Tonight - Tuesday, November 21 | Border agent's slaying no reason to expand 'bloated'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ1ANDwd8gE
    Tucker Carlson Tonight - Tuesday, November 21 2017

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    Gutfeld on Newsweek comparing Manson to Trump

    Fox News
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jblwO3AGygA
    Published on 21 Nov 2017
    The magazine is now like a sad sideshow attraction.
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