Charles Manson dies aged 83 after four decades in prison....20/11/17

[Cidersomerset]

Sage of Quay Radio - Neil Sanders - The Real Charles Manson Story (Aug 2017)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfyUnb-0aqE

Published on 2 Aug 2017
Neil is an expert on the subject of mind control and the techniques used within the
matrix to manipulate the thoughts, beliefs and values of the unsuspecting masses.
Neil discusses his new book which is called Now Is The Only Thing That's Real which
re-exams and revises the Charles Manson story by exposing the powerful players
and motives behind what really happened on August 8, 1969.

Neil's Media:'Now Is The Only Thing That's Real' - https://tinyurl.com/yalzgzft
* http://neilsandersmindcontrol.com/
* https://www.facebook.com/NeilSandersMC
* https://twitter.com/NeilSandersMC
* https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAhY...

[Cidersomerset]

I don't think this will get at the real truth....




Matt Smith goes from playing Prince Philip to Charles Manson

54 minutes ago



Matt Smith played the Duke of Edinburgh in Netflix's The Crown

After starring on screen as Doctor Who and Prince Philip, actor Matt Smith's next role will
be as cult leader Charles Manson.The British actor, who played the Duke of Edinburgh in
The Crown, will now portray Manson in a film called Charlie Says, according to Hollywood
Reporter.Manson directed his followers to commit a string of brutal murders in 1969. He
died last November.Charlie Says will focus on three young women who were found guilty
of murder.

The convicted followers were sentenced to death alongside Manson for the infamous
Tate-LaBianca murders. But the death penalty was later lifted in California and they
were sentenced to life imprisonment.Fellow Brit Suki Waterhouse, Game of Thrones'
Hannah Murray and Nurse Jackie and Godless actress Merritt Wever are also among the cast.

The movie will be made by American Psycho director Mary Harron and filming is due to start
in Los Angeles in the spring.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42963136

[ZoSo925]

That stinks, it's going to be too typical Hollywood. I'm really interested in more details behind Manson and that Water hole near Death Valley desert in Nevada.

I recall reading Manson thought it was a magical hole. It's all closed off now and considered protected land by Fish & Wildlife Service because of the rare fish..etc but I think hole leads to someplace special.

Just on the other side of the mountain range is Ridgecrest California and they have China Lake that is taken up by the Military and Naval Weapons Command Center.

[Merlinus]

How Cult Leader Charles Manson Was Made

Jay returns to Red Ice for an in-depth discussion about Charles Manson. The program is a detailed contextual examination of one of the world’s most nefarious criminals. Jay and Henrik discuss the cult of personality surrounding Manson not as an isolated phenomenon, but as a product of cultic events in London, the American prison system, Scientology, psychological manipulation, drug use, and the military industrial complex.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kDGtAZbJ_Bc

[Cidersomerset]

Charles Manson death: Grandson to get body

13/3/18

A Californian judge has ended a wrangle over the remains
of death cult leader Charles Manson by awarding custody
to his grandson, US media report.Jason Freeman's claim
to the body of his grandfather, who died in November
while serving his prison sentence, faced numerous challenges.

One man claimed to be Manson's illegitimate son while
another produced a will making him sole beneficiary.Manson's
cult carried out a string of high-profile murders in the 1960s.
Known as the Manson Family, they killed nine people including
the heavily pregnant Hollywood actress Sharon Tate, wife of
Roman Polanski.While the question of the body has been decided,
that of Manson's estate has still to be determined.Victims' rights
advocates fear artefacts relating to the criminal may be sold for
thousands of dollars.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43387229

[Cosmored]

Here's an old radio program that deals with the theory that the Manson Killings were a US government black operation to discredit the counter-culture.

Guns and Butter # 091 Charles Manson & The Crushing of the Counter Culture - Mae Brussell
https://archive.org/details/GunsAndB...ureMaeBrussell

The counter-culture was figuring out the truth about the Vietnam war and were spreading the word.

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/chomskyin1282.html
(excerpt)
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Q: When the Indochina war ended in 1975 you wrote that our nation's "official" opinion makers would engage in distortion of the lessons to be drawn from the war so that the same basic foreign policy goals could be pursued after the war. You felt then that in order to keep the real meaning of the war from penetrating the general public they faced two major tasks: First, they would have to disguise the fact that the war "was basically an American attack on South Vietnam -- a war of annihilation that spilled over to the rest of Indochina". And secondly, they would have to obscure the fact that the military effort in Vietnam "was restrained by a mass movement of protest and resistance here at home which engaged in effective direct action outside the bounds of propriety long before established spokesmen proclaimed themselves to be its leaders". Where do we stand now on these two issues--seven years later?
Chomsky: As far as the opinion makers are concerned, they have been doing exactly what it was obvious they would do. Every book that comes out, every article that comes out, talks about how -- while it may have been a "mistake" or an "unwise effort" -- the United States was defending South Vietnam from North Vietnamese aggression. And they portray those who opposed the war as apologists for North Vietnam. That's standard to say.
The purpose is obvious: to obscure the fact that the United States did attack South Vietnam and the major war was fought against South Vietnam. The real invasion of South Vietnam which was directed largely against the rural society began directly in 1962 after many years of working through mercenaries and client groups. And that fact simply does not exist in official American history. There Is no such event in American history as the attack on South Vietnam. That's gone. Of course, It Is a part of real history. But it's not a part of official history.
And most of us who were opposed to the war, especially in the early 60's -- the war we were opposed to was the war on South Vietnam which destroyed South Vietnam's rural society. The South was devastated. But now anyone who opposed this atrocity is regarded as having defended North Vietnam. And that's part of the effort to present the war as if it were a war between South Vietnam and North Vietnam with the United States helping the South. Of course it's fabrication. But it's "official truth" now.
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People were learning about American imperialism and the true motives for the Vietnam war and other interventions.
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Imperialism101.html
(excerpts)
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By "imperialism" I mean the process whereby the dominant politico-economic interests of one nation expropriate for their own enrichment the land, labor, raw materials, and markets of another people.
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North American and European corporations have acquired control of more than three-fourths of the known mineral resources of Asia, Africa, and Latin America.
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Of the various notions about imperialism circulating today in the United States, the dominant view is that it does not exist. Imperialism is not recognized as a legitimate concept, certainly not in regard to the United States. One may speak of "Soviet imperialism" or "nineteenth-century British imperialism" but not of U.S. imperialism. A graduate student in political science at most universities in this country would not be granted the opportunity to research U.S. imperialism, on the grounds that such an undertaking would not be scholarly. While many people throughout the world charge the United States with being an imperialist power, in this country persons who talk of U.S. imperialism are usually judged to be mouthing ideological blather.
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Whether it was a black op or not, it had the desired effect; a lot of people started to be afraid of hippy-looking people.

Is there any direct evidence that those people were killed by Manson's friends? How do we know the killers weren't a bunch of CIA agents?

[Luke Holiday]

http://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf

… he makes one hell of a case....


be well

Luke

[Gracy]

Posted by Cosmored (here)
Whether it was a black op or not, it had the desired effect; a lot of people started to be afraid of hippy-looking people.

Is there any direct evidence that those people were killed by Manson's friends? How do we know the killers weren't a bunch of CIA agents?

It's pretty certain they did do it. What's a bit fuzzy is how Charlie and his cult were fostered along, kept out of jail and such, thus ultimately allowing the murders that made hippies scary.

Tom O'Neil is a rich resource on all things Manson:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=r1hv5P4SwbU

The full interview for anyone with the time and inclination. Well worth it:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J36xPWBLcG8

[araucaria]

Posted by Luke Holiday (here)
http://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf

… he makes one hell of a case....


be well

Luke

Well, I have a few issues with Miles Mathis. See this thread.

[pigsy2400]

One of the best questions I have seen asked in regards to this and a detail many dont pick up on either.

I think they were tested on, potentially with LSD. If you wanted a similar case, all you have to look at is the Patty Hearst Case - and the MK people involved in that too.

The link to the previous post and the Tate False Flag, is interesting too - particularly as it states that Esalen was the center of LSD. Esalen was also the genesis for modern ufology too, if you look at who attended and met there.

[norman]

I'm no Manson/Hurst murder expert, SO . . . . . maybe none of this is news to others, but this interview with Neil Sanders is packed with details I had no idea about. He has a new book out, hence the interview.

Truth Be Told - The REAL Charles Manson Story
49 minutes - Posted Jul 8, 2023

SHOW NOTES
Neil Sanders is a qualified hypnotherapist. Neil is considered an expert on the subject of mind control and has been studying the history of this dark art and its application by military and government intelligence agencies across the globe for many years. We talked about the hidden facts of the Infamous Serial Killer Charles Manson and What were the true motives behind the murders and who was really involved? There are many books covering this topic, yet very few have broken through the 'official' tale told by the trial's prosecutors and the news media at the time. This book includes hundreds of hours of research into court and police documents, witness statements, media reports and interviews with those involved. Check Out His Website at neilsandersmindcontrol.com