Schwarzwald UFO crash 1936

[Billiam]

Does anybody have any basic information on the reported UFO crash that supposedly happened near Freiburg Germany... I have searched the internet and facts seem to be scarce and the only source there seems to be is from a book by Jan Van Helsing which sounds a bit wonky to me... I live in Freiburg and would like to investigate this story further if indeed there is any truth behind it...

Thanks

Billy

[shadowstalker]

Seems like his books are either in German or unattainable

[Billiam]

I can read German which is no problem for me but any literature on the matter is incredibly hard to find... You would think that such an important Roswell like event would create a lot of interest which makes me doubt its authenticity, however the Nazis were incredibly adept at shutting people up... I have lived in Freiburg for five years and saw my first UFO there but had never heard of this story before which would be of interest in a very liberal open thinking and alternative university city... I would just like to arm myself with some of the basic facts before I start digging around a bit further and spare myself a bit of ridicule if it is a load of BS...

[shadowstalker]

I either saw is name dropped on the net I.E. videos or on TV recently, in the past two week i believe, I wish I could remember, I wish I could help. But is is real.

[str8thinker]

Hi Billiam

It might pay you to check out the Vril.

The Vril Society members were supposedly the first group to attempt the back engineering of an extraterrestrial spacecraft.

http://greyfalcon.us/restored/1936.htm

The Vril Society or The Luminous Lodge combined the political ideals of the Order of the Illuminati with Hindu mysticism, Theosophy and the Cabbala. It was the first German nationalist groups to use the symbol of the swastika as an emblem linking Eastern and Western occultism. The Vril Society presented the idea of a subterranean matriarchal, socialist utopia ruled by superior beings who had mastered the mysterious energy called the Vril Force.

"This secret society was founded, literally, on Bulwer Lytton's novel The Coming Race (1871). The book describes a race of men psychically far in advance of our own. They have acquired powers over themselves and over things that made them almost godlike. For the moment they are in hiding. They are said to live in caves in the center of the Earth. Soon they will emerge to reign over us."

Vril Powered Nazi UFOs?

Nazi UFO drawing Perhaps the most wild claims still circulating about the Vril Society, and its offshoot The Thule Society, is the legends of a secret Nazi UFO program. Presumably the Vril Society established contact with the "Secret Chiefs" or the Vril-ya themselves, and secretly began cooperating with certain German scientists in the late 20's.

As early as 1936 Hitler was sending teams of "Spelunkers" into caves and mines all over Europe searching for the Vril-ya. The Nazi's had also explored Antarctica extensively during the years 1937-38. In search of the fabled hole of the South Pole they apparently had success, like Admiral Byrd, in discovering these entrances. It was here that some say they made contact with the "Unknown Superman" who lived in the fabled "Rainbow City".

"In his controversial presentation UFO Secrets of the Third Reich, Vladimir Terziski draws a connection between alien beings and such German secret societies as the Tempelhoff,the Thule, the Vril, and the Black Sun. Terziski tells of an "alien tutor race" that secretly began cooperating with certain German scientists in the late 1920's in underground bases and began to introduce their concepts of philosophical, cultural, and technological progress." (The Rainbow Conspiracy, p.62)

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Vril_Society.htm

Nazi UFOs (Wikipedia) is another good starting point.

A rather sensationalistic website, but some nice pics!
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetin...Technology.htm

Kinda makes that Raiders of the Lost Ark scene look puny, eh?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread18875/pg1

http://naziconspiracy.onlc.eu/14-The...echnology.html

Cold Case Files Of Ufo Crashes And Alien Body Retrievals
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/ufocrashes.html

There is a YouTube video out named UFO Secrets of the Third Reich. You can find a link to it here:

http://blog.ufo-blog.com/2007/03/wat...ird-reich.html

In 1944, a newspaper reported a new Nazi secret fireball weapon. This video documents the German involvement with flying saucer projects in the 1940's. This is a German made film. Details on Victor Shauberger, the Thule Society, and the Black Sun are discussed. The difference between implosion and explosion is reviewed. Plans and paperwork are shown on the video which, detail the Nazi Flying Saucer projects. These are copies of actual diagrams and plans from the early 1940's.

This information fits in perfectly with what William Lyne claims in his book "Space Aliens From the Pentagon", as far as the early development of this Free Energy technology. The difference is, this film proposes the idea that Hitler was in touch with E.T.'s and experimenting with time travel and does not reveal Nikola Tesla as being the source of the technology and science. Diagrams of the Hanibou 1 and 2 saucers are shown. Shown are photographs of the V-7 mounted with laser guns, apparently made for Hitler's war machine. Also shown is a picture of Hitler standing next to a prototype model.

The V-7 was built with 12 BMW engines and rose to 24,000 meters on the first test and 27,000 on the second test. Helium was used to power this model. The next type built was the VRIL (Also photographs of the test flights). Next was "Project Fireball", commonly called Foo Fighters by the allies. These were radio controlled and unmanned. They were developed to disrupt the power systems of the opponents aircraft.

Shown is a NAZI army paper documenting the creation of 261 flying saucers including 3 Hanibou saucers and 84 VRIL's. These were all were built towards the end of WWII. The Hanibou had a diameter of 25 meters. There are picures and film footage of giant "Cigar" shaped flying saucers. These were seen mostly in the 50's and 60's. This film shows you the plans for this particular ship as well. This was called "Project Andromeda". These were motherships developed around 1944 and were 109 meters long. They were designed to carry 1 Hanibou and 3 VRIL. If you see this film, you will have no doubt at all that the governments have these.

Hope some of this helps you.

(Added)

You may have second thoughts about watching this video after Viddler's comments here:

http://www.viddler.com/explore/Worst_of_VHS/videos/2/

UFO Secrets Of The Third Reich is a bizarre conspiracy theory coprolite. Half of it is in elevator-esque muzak, with the narration only starting in the middle and the interviews mostly being in German. Some odd snippets of a CGI half-bull-half-UFO floating around in space with an iron cross are left completely unexplained. I don't know how they managed to make esoteric space-nazism boring, but they did... oh God they did.

You have been warned!

[Billiam]

Thanks for the post Starthinker, I was already aware of the information you sent but I have hit a real brick-wall trying to find details about the 1936 crash.......I will check it out locally and see what I can dig up and post any findings here...