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    Hi Cosmic,

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    zook, is it not possible that JA has feigned ignorance of the 9/11 conspiracy in order to maintain relevancy in the MSM?
    Anything is possible. But is it reasonable to have that expectation? Ans: not when it comes from someone who has positioned himself as the avenger of oppressed truths. He would've been better off by deferring any question about 9/11/2001 with a few simple words strung thusly: "Let us wait and see what the cables reveal."

    Unfortunately for himself, JA strung other words together: "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud." ... into a loop around his own neck.

    Ron Paul, too, tripped over when he made his own 9/11/2001 comments during the Presidential election run-up (he lost my moral and intellectual support soon afterward, and if I'd been a US citizen, he would have lost my electoral support as well - maybe it's a character flaw, but I have a hard time supporting cowards - tho' I do allocate an amount of pity for them) ... but at least Ron Paul was trying to preserve his voice in the political corridors (ostensibly for the benefit of his constituents). Julian Assange? He is supposed to be a renegade, e.g. a rebel with cause! What logic permits a rebel purported to be leaking sensitive documents, to back off from speaking truthfully on the matter of 9/11/2001 (which is fully in the public domain)?

    Is the assembly line (in the rebel-manufacturing factory) pushing forward units into the packaging room before all the screws had been tightened? If not, then what does that say about the rebel who wants to expose the establishment and simultaneously cover up for the establishment? Rebel with just cause? Or cherry-picker without one? Indeed, the preponderance of the evidence establishes the cherry-picker and exposes the rebel-wannabe to be without just cause.

    Quote Still, there is a reason why Wikileaks has gotten far more international MSM recognition that something like Project Camelot. JA has to toe the line with the surface issues for now. I suspect he has a lot in his arsenal ready to go now that he's gotten everyone's attention. It's just a matter of time. Hopefully.
    Well, conjecture is not proof of anything. Preponderance, OTOH, is. Having said that, let me indulge your conjecture all the same. The likelier reason for JA and Wikileaks getting big press ... is that it keeps the masses numb with trivia, disinformation, selective information, etc. This maintains a high state of confusion; distraction, infojunk ... from which chaos saturates. From chaos to a new world order. Indeed, Yuri Begmenov provides evidence for my conjecture by revealing the psyOps technique used by the former USSR, e.g. Ideological Subversion. I already posted the link here on Avalon, but you can try Google for more info.

    There is much evidence of this technique in wide play in America: OJ Simpson trial; the trial of Lorena Loppitov (I mean Bobbitt); the ubiquity of Britney Spears; the celebrity of Snoop Doggy Dog; pornography everywhere (with pills to pep her up and pills to pecker up); American Idol; Tiger Woods; Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?; Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire?; Who Just Wants To Bop One?; Survivor; Shopping channels hawking cubic zirconium, shiwala mops, exercisers, 9/11/2001 commemorative coins; Judge Judy; Larry King; Faux-news; Don Imus; Tucker Carlson; Monday Night Football; Sunday Night Football; Thursday Nioght Football; and now, even Tuesday Night Football, etc. etc.; et cet and era ad infinitum ad nauseam ...

    The question I ask you is not how society is ... but how did it get this way? Yuri Begmenov provides the best fitting answer: ideological subversion. JA and Wikileaks, in preponderance, are part of this technique.

    There is also a second conjectural point that has to be seriously considered. The creation of a crisis or tipping point to shut down the internet. Ideological subversion understands this as Step Three (of the four basic steps: Demoralization, Destabilization, Crisis, Normalization).



    Quote Oh, and I tend to agree with those about the inherent issues with the "guilt by association" mentality. Otherwise I don't think a lot of people here would like me very much if they knew who I was connected to through my parents. ^^;;
    If it were only as simple as guilt by association, you may have a point, Cosmic ... but this is guilt by preponderance. Humble opinions all around.

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    My boss once worked as a therapist with children from the Family. Sure they were screwed up kids who had no idea of ordinary reality but to join dots like that is just wishful thinking. And besides the Illuminati are not worth worrying about and have no real connection to any arm of TPTB. I don't think you can say these are the facts and they mean this. These may be the facts second hand but that explains nothing. I'm related to 2 rapists in my family line but that doesn't make me a rapist.

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    Default Re: Julian Assange's Ties to Nazi Cult

    Last I checked the United States was a member of a nazi cult too

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    Zook old chap, the more that these sorts of allegations are publicised, and we are a public source of information, the more we are putting Assange at risk.

    I don't want to become responsible for another death. Especially his.

    Will you be satisfied when you hear the news of his deportation to the US of Hell, or his assassination?

    Will you be aiding the PTB?

    How has he aided and abetted the goals and aims of the Elites?

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    Quote Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
    My boss once worked as a therapist with children from the Family. Sure they were screwed up kids who had no idea of ordinary reality but to join dots like that is just wishful thinking. And besides the Illuminati are not worth worrying about and have no real connection to any arm of TPTB. I don't think you can say these are the facts and they mean this. These may be the facts second hand but that explains nothing. I'm related to 2 rapists in my family line but that doesn't make me a rapist.
    With due respect, Bright Garlick, guilt by association is not an argument, by and in itself. It requires a narrative.

    In the narrative of jurisprudence, accessories-after-the-fact, for instance, can be prosecuted. That's an example of guilt by association ... and an argument of guilt by association in narrative. In the narrative of preponderating the evidence, Julian Assange can be exposed as a propaganda minion of the Rothschild disinformation ministries, if and only if sufficient connections can be found between himself and the Rothschild brand. And precisely because the Rothschild brand, e.g. the bankster empire, owns the establishment - lock, stock, and barrel of monkeys! If Wikileaks and/or Assange are counter-establishment as they purport to be ... then they cannot simultaneously be establishment. That is illogical. To wit, matter is not anti-matter.

    Again, guilt by association is only possible in narrative. To that end, I had elucidated the narrative previously on Avalon. Perhaps you had missed it. Here it is again for your edification:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post115513

    beginExcerpt
    I've already made the Rothschild-Wikileaks connection (in spades) in another thread. Go here for a review if you're interested (post#9):
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post78493

    And here's my discussion of patterns that further indict Wikileaks:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post79863
    end


    To wit, Assange's stooge credentials are a slam dunk by any reasonable standard of evidence, not least, the standard of preponderance in narrative.

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    Quote Posted by Northern Boy (here)
    Last I checked the United States was a member of a nazi cult too
    Only parts of the establishment. Major parts, to be sure. And they are as guilty as Julian Assange ... in addition, both are guilty by mutual association, e.g. fraternity in the guilty sections of the same establishment.


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    Quote Posted by Icecold (here)
    Zook old chap, the more that these sorts of allegations are publicised, and we are a public source of information, the more we are putting Assange at risk.

    I don't want to become responsible for another death. Especially his.

    Will you be satisfied when you hear the news of his deportation to the US of Hell, or his assassination?

    Will you be aiding the PTB?

    How has he aided and abetted the goals and aims of the Elites?

    Ice old chap, I've gone deeper into the rabbit hole than you on this. This is obvious to me; for if you had gone as far as I, you wouldn't be worried about Assange's safety and would consider such a suggestion, ludicrous. Of course, the Mastards can always do to Assange what they do to some of their patsies once the expiry date on usefulness transits into the running clock on a potential snitch (e.g. Oswald) - that sorta thing.

    As it stands, you've got things baclwards. It is Assange who is putting people's lives at risk and not the other way around. Hundreds of thousands more innocents will be killed by Assange's decision to stooge for the virtual Rothschild etstate and agitating Zionist state of Israel, which is seeking to complete its Neocon plotted axis of evil through Iran. Wikileaks is a false flag alternative news media operation. In this way, the evil Mastards are using both the mainstream media pipes and the false-flag-alternative Wikileaks media pipe ... to push their war agenda through. From intranational war to regional war to global war ... from global war to global chaos; from chaos to order ... a one world charter with one world bank, one world legal system, one world standing army, one world ... et cetera ad nauseam.

    At some point in the game, Ice, you'll have to journey deeper into the rabbit hole ... if not, you'll be better off donating your opinion to the local comedy club.




    ps: Please read my response to Bright Garlick. It contains the width of my arguments against Assange. <-------- "How has he aided and abetted the goals and aims of the Elites? "- Icecold

    ps2: Humble opinions all around.

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    I watched an interview Forget who it was but in it he explained that in order to bring in the NWO one or both of the 2 superpowers at the time had to go . We watched Russia slide and although they are still they are still a formidable adversary not like they used to be . We are now watching the systematic dismantling of the United States. Wikileaks is one of the tools being used to do this. I don`t think Assange knows he is being used. Get rid of the super powers and then form a NWO

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    Quote Posted by Northern Boy (here)
    I watched an interview Forget who it was but in it he explained that in order to bring in the NWO one or both of the 2 superpowers at the time had to go . We watched Russia slide and although they are still they are still a formidable adversary not like they used to be . We are now watching the systematic dismantling of the United States. Wikileaks is one of the tools being used to do this. I don`t think Assange knows he is being used. Get rid of the super powers and then form a NWO
    Wikileaks is a tool being used to for establishment goals ... not the peoples' goals.
    Wikileaks is being touted as the peoples' tool ... not the establishment's tool.

    To wit, the putative people's tool is being used to achieve the establishment's goals. Anyone recognize a false flag operation in that thar sentence yet?

    Turning to Assange, the evidence fully supports culpability. If he was being used against his personal knowledge, then only a dumbfuddled dumbfounded befuddled befounded inescapable dolt ... would ever argue that 9/11 was a false conspiracy. But everyone agrees that the man possesses above average intelligence. So we can quickly crumple that paper lamb and toss it in the wastebasket. Mendax-the-Truthseeker ... fits with War-the-Peace ... Ignorance-the-Strength ... and Freedom-the-Slavery. Enter Emmanuel Assange ... I mean Julian Goldstein ... er... Emmanuel Goldstein.


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    It seems to me that anyone on the planet these days who does monumental good work gets slashed and burned.
    Its all part to keep us monumentally confused.

    As far as Assange being rich....and everyone running that proceeded him in wikileaks....
    The job Assange has taken on needs to be done with money.
    He has had to run, and protect himself... and at what cost financially?
    to save his own hide and keep the project moving forward?
    Anyone with half a brain would know that this work can not be done on a middle class bank account.
    That the others stepped out of the way to let Assange take over makes sense to me,
    aside from the fact that Assange has innumerable connections around the world
    that likely help more than hinder.

    At this point I am not inclined at all to believe the first post..
    its just a story... in my view.

    But interviewing this guy Steven may well be worth a look at, Bill Ryan.


    It is not an easy job to reveal the tyrannies of the world.
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    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    It seems to me that anyone on the planet these days who does monumental good work gets slashed and burned.
    [...]
    With all due respect, Arrowwind, your post is loaded with conjectural points. It's easy to make conjectural points without the burden of facts. Put the facts back into the equation ... and your conjectural points turn into non sequiturs.

    FACT: One cannot be anti-establishment and be an apologist for the establishment in the same breath. Of course, one can claim to be anti-establishment and be establishment. One can also claim to be for peace and be a warmonger. Happens all the time. Indeed, unverified claims are a fact of life. The hard work, alas, is in the verification. On verification, Assange is a stooge. Period.

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