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    Default PINE GAP (which may be Australia's 'Area 51')

    I wanted to share some finds that I made while researching the Joint Defence Facility in Pine Gap, Australia. Some of it could be old news.



    The facility is referred to by various sources as "part of the 'Five Eyes' intelligence alliance's 'collect-it-all' surveillance of global internet and telecommunications traffic."

    From Pine Gap’s new spy role revealed (2015), which discusses a report on Pine Gap and the UKUSA or Five Eyes (FVEY) partners:

    The authors, all with decades experience in researching intelligence activities, reveal a massive expansion of satellite communications surveillance capabilities by the US National Security Agency and its other Five Eyes partners, the Australian Signals Directorate, the United Kingdom's Government Communications Headquarters, Canada's Communications Security Establishment and New Zealand's Government Communications Security Bureau.

    The report shows the expansion of satellite communications interception has involved growth in the number of antennas located at Five Eyes intelligence facilities and the deployment of "multiple advanced quasi-parabolic multi-beam antennas, known as Torus, each of which can intercept up to 35 satellite communications beams."


    Then there is this short video (2009, 8.50 mins) in which this citizen journalist uses satellite imagery to point out an Eye of Horus in the landscape at Pine Gap.

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    LadyM - you might be interested in this line of investigation http://www.standeyo.com/stans.files/.../Pine_Gap.html

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    LadyM - you might be interested in this line of investigation http://www.standeyo.com/stans.files/.../Pine_Gap.html
    Thank you. The link leads to some good resources that I have never seen before. I guess my news was old news, then. Maybe it will be new to a few following the thread.

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    LadyM - It may be a good idea to start a new thread on Pine Gap. Many have not heard very much about it. I am not sure how much info is on Avalon. I was exposed to this info in the 80s and was in touch with Stan Deyo in the 90s, but younger people may not know this info. It is worth following, if you want to increase your knowledge.

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    Puts me in mind of Bob Dean's story of his military friend who went into an elevator at a base in the SW U.S. & when the door opened, he was greeted by a young man, "Welcome to Pine Gap, Sir."

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    Of interest, maybe: I was told by a credible source quite a few years back that there were more than half a dozen other similar facilities in Australia (the vast interior there is the ideal place to hide just about anything at all) — and that Pine Gap was 'allowed' to be discussed (like this!) simply to divert attention away from all the others, which are NOT anywhere in the public domain.

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    Default Re: PINE GAP (which may be Australia's 'Area 51')

    Hi:

    This is the first post outside of “my” threads in years, and I won’t make it a habit, but I’ll agree that once a facility becomes publicly known, it is no longer where it is “happening.” That said, I know somebody well who has regularly worked at Pine Gap, and if you approach the Pine Gap facilities, you are under surveillance for many kilometers before you arrive there.

    Best,

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    I think the timing of the new Netflix series PINE GAP is notable, as it relates to recent happenings. Production begins in Nov. 2017.

    Netflix press release - PINE GAP: SCREENTIME, NETFLIX, ABC & SAFC ANNOUNCE NEW PRODUCTION FOR 2017

    Screentime, a Banijay Group company, has been commissioned by Netflix and the ABC to produce a six hour drama series entitled PINE GAP. Created by showrunner Greg Haddrick and co-writer Felicity Packard, the international political thriller is set in and around the enigmatic US/Australia joint defence facility situated in central Australia.

    With major support from the South Australian Film Corporation and the South Australian State Government, PINE GAP will commence pre-production in Adelaide in November and will film across multiple locations in South Australia and the Northern Territory in 2018.


    Netflix, ABC thriller based on US-Australian intelligence facility at Pine Gap set to shoot in South Australia (includes short video on Pine Gap)

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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    I think the timing of the new Netflix series PINE GAP is notable, as it relates to recent happenings. Production begins in Nov. 2017.
    That kind of underscores what Wade was saying.

    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    I’ll agree that once a facility becomes publicly known, it is no longer where it is “happening.”
    There's compelling evidence to suggest that the 'real' stuff was moved from Area 51 many years ago, and has been relocated to Utah. Those who makes these decisions will be entirely happy if the internet feeding frenzy is all at the wrong waterhole, and if so, they're likely to work to keep it that way.

    Pine Gap is a little different, of course, because the facility is almost entirely underground, and there's practically nothing to see, even from strategic vantage points — unlike Groom Lake, where there's one of the world's longest runways, and military aircraft of all kinds, classified and otherwise, use it all the time.

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    Default Re: PINE GAP (which may be Australia's 'Area 51')

    North western cape near exmouth vast array, always fascinated by this.
    Naval installation, as similar north eastern equivalent on Oz coast.
    Canberra city geometry is a bit suspect, strange but Freemasonic symbology everywhere.
    It is what it is....!
    Has anyone challenged the architects of Canberra and their raison d’etre?
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    Quote compelling evidence to suggest that the 'real' stuff was moved
    thank you...there's no doubt in my mind, but not just Dugway but dispersed in other important places ie underground bases or large gov landholdings above them. And usually disguised places, like the stealth coverings deployed at area51 and the S4 sight with hangar doors that look like the landscape. All built from below ground up so as not to show road traffic. The locals usually hear a rumor or two, but usually nobody's willing to investigate and one has to be diligent and do some field work to determine more but being somewhat risky if they wish to hide.

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    Hi:

    Where my friend was given his underground exotic technology show was likely one of those “off the map” places. For me, the places are real, as are many of their rumored technologies, but what interests me is bringing free energy out of the shadows. Bring that one out, and the others are soon to follow, because then it will be Game Over.

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    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    Bring that one out, and the others are soon to follow, because then it will be Game Over.
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    Quote Posted by Callista (here)
    LadyM - you might be interested in this line of investigation http://www.standeyo.com/stans.files/.../Pine_Gap.html
    Thanks Callista. I was trying to remember who it was, many many years ago that I had come across talking about Pine Gap ... Indeed it was Stan Deyo. Memory and old age...

    Anyway, for those interested, google Stan Deyo and Pine Gap for more. Here is an example:



    Tom Bearden also had a lot to say about it in terms of scalar wave technology.

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    Of interest, maybe: I was told by a credible source quite a few years back that there were more than half a dozen other similar facilities in Australia (the vast interior there is the ideal place to hide just about anything at all) — and that Pine Gap was 'allowed' to be discussed (like this!) simply to divert attention away from all the others, which are NOT anywhere in the public domain.
    Can you say any more on who this "credible source" is? If not, what was his background, how was he so knowledgable about these secret facilities in the Australian outback and why was he telling you about them?

    Very interested in these sites and their purpose.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Of interest, maybe: I was told by a credible source quite a few years back that there were more than half a dozen other similar facilities in Australia (the vast interior there is the ideal place to hide just about anything at all) — and that Pine Gap was 'allowed' to be discussed (like this!) simply to divert attention away from all the others, which are NOT anywhere in the public domain.
    Can you say any more on who this "credible source" is? If not, what was his background, how was he so knowledgable about these secret facilities in the Australian outback and why was he telling you about them?

    Very interested in these sites and their purpose.
    I have no record of what he told me, and the place names didn't mean anything at all. It might have been a big misdirect, but at that time I believe 'Jake' was very authentic, as was his information.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by The Crimson Horse Blanket (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Of interest, maybe: I was told by a credible source quite a few years back that there were more than half a dozen other similar facilities in Australia (the vast interior there is the ideal place to hide just about anything at all) — and that Pine Gap was 'allowed' to be discussed (like this!) simply to divert attention away from all the others, which are NOT anywhere in the public domain.
    Can you say any more on who this "credible source" is? If not, what was his background, how was he so knowledgable about these secret facilities in the Australian outback and why was he telling you about them

    Very interested in these sites and their purpose.
    I have no record of what he told me, and the place names didn't mean anything at all. It might have been a big misdirect, but at that time I believe 'Jake' was very authentic, as was his information.
    Hmm. Everything he told you, that was tied to a date, has not come to pass, not even close. To me this is an endemic problem within this community, falling-back on historically in-correct data to bolster a current-day view, then presenting it as fact.*

    It has to be considered that Pine Gap (RAINFALL), and facilities like it, are what we are told they are, in this case, space research facility, listening post, surveillance node (CIA, NSA, NRO). At this point we have zero proof of anything else.

    * Not aiming this remark at anyone, just an observation
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    Quote Posted by The Crimson Horse Blanket (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by The Crimson Horse Blanket (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Of interest, maybe: I was told by a credible source quite a few years back that there were more than half a dozen other similar facilities in Australia (the vast interior there is the ideal place to hide just about anything at all) — and that Pine Gap was 'allowed' to be discussed (like this!) simply to divert attention away from all the others, which are NOT anywhere in the public domain.
    Can you say any more on who this "credible source" is? If not, what was his background, how was he so knowledgable about these secret facilities in the Australian outback and why was he telling you about them

    Very interested in these sites and their purpose.
    I have no record of what he told me, and the place names didn't mean anything at all. It might have been a big misdirect, but at that time I believe 'Jake' was very authentic, as was his information.
    Hmm. Everything he told you, that was tied to a date, has not come to pass, not even close. To me this is an endemic problem within this community, falling-back on historically in-correct data to bolster a current-day view, then presenting it as fact.*

    It has to be considered that Pine Gap (RAINFALL), and facilities like it, are what we are told they are, in this case, space research facility, listening post, surveillance node (CIA, NSA, NRO). At this point we have zero proof of anything else.

    * Not aiming this remark at anyone, just an observation
    I thought it was a fascinating read -- hyper-dimensional AI, how advanced technology is behind the scenes, Australia as Ark of the World.

    The failed predictions could be a result of timeline shifts. Clinton pursued the presidency twice. I imagine that alone significantly altered the timeline discussed by Jake.

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    Hi:

    Should I stay silent? Maybe. I’ll trot off to “my” threads soon enough, but I’ll say this…

    I have always taken what nearly all “insiders” say with a grain of salt, as the very fact of their being insiders has compromised them, to one degree or another. An insider such as Ralph McGehee I take very seriously. It is going to be hard to discredit Ralph, so the CIA resorted to other tactics, few of which were legal, of course.

    Brian, Dennis, and I were/are not insiders, as well as others in our little circle, such as Mark, but the nature of our journeys brought us into contact with “insiders,” or you could say that they contacted us. Some contacts were relatively benign, while others were life-threatening. Not even David Rockefeller played at those loftiest of levels, or if he ever did, it was not for long.

    Many wrecked and prematurely ended lives go with that territory. That was too rough a journey for me, and I seek the quiet life anymore.

    There are all sorts of grand yarns on the fringes that have little or no independent support for them (and nobody can predict just what the future will be, because it will be what we make it), but I take Bill’s report of being put to sleep very seriously. Lots of toys are at the disposal of the Global Controllers (GCs) and friends. You can take that to the bank, and I may have been subjected to some of that mind-attacking psychotronic equipment. It was not fun, let me tell you.

    However, the GCs are far less than all-powerful, but they play their role, and “well,” and they need a sleeping and easily manipulated humanity as their accomplices, in their dark symbiosis that can sure seem parasitic. However, I believe that they are an integral part of how humanity functions these days, and they react to the end of this game with fear, as almost all people do.

    It would not take many of us to “wake up” and put an end to this game, but waking up is so very hard to do. We all hear the siren’s song of our conditioning each day.

    While digesting “insider” reporting can give food for thought, I don’t consider much of it to be a guide for action. Like “channeling,” it is just something to put in your pipe and smoke for a time. It is what we do while we are here that matters. Too many of us are spectators, even for those who are doing their best to awaken and stay there.

    Creation is a big place, and we all see so dimly through the glass while we are here, while the courageous such as Bill try to make a dent, and his journey has been a surreal one, for sure. But he is still here, at it, and for that, he will have my undying respect and gratitude.

    Best,

    Wade
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

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    Default Re: PINE GAP (which may be Australia's 'Area 51')

    As someone who has lived in Australia since 1970 I can report that there is a lot going on here which relate to both the U.K & USA, military experimentation, bases of all kinds.
    I used to live across the street from a scientist who worked with the Atomic research branch of the USA military, his front garden was all Aloe Vera plants, he experimented with treatments for radiation burns.
    This was in Cottesloe a sea side suburb of Perth, in the early 1980's. Lots of once significant people seemed to settle in the area, because it is very desirable, quiet, affluent- Rock stars in retirement or retreat, Science people.
    It was a strange little episode in my life.

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