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    Purely hypothetical Avalonians...😎

    But what if you met a Being from above...how would you react and what would you do?

    We all know the universe is teeming with life...ect.


    EVACUATION
    I see no point in changing perfection or rewriting that which is still accurate. However, since this equipment is not compatible with that upon which we first wrote this message of evacuation, I shall share it with you again. I will distract myself, Dharma, and allow you to pick it up from my monitors.
    We have millions of ships stationed in the skies above your planet, ready to instantly lift you off at the first warning of your planet’s beginning to tilt on its axis. When this occurs, we have only a very short time segment in which we can lift you from the surface before great tidal waves will lash your coastlines. These waves can be as deep as five miles or more. They will subsequently cover much of your land masses. Your melting polar ice caps are contributing greatly to the inequal balance of the orb itself.
    Along with these changes there will be great earthquakes which will feed from one suture line (fault line) to the next to cause severe shifting of entire tectonic plates. As these splits and grindings occur you will have massive volcanic eruptions over widespread areas of previously dormant cones. In portions near your nuclear testing grounds you will experience probably spillage of radioactive material into your atmosphere. You will also experience radiation leakage from your nuclear power plants as they are disrupted by land changes. Portions of your continents will split and sink, and in other areas this will cause thrusting upward of other masses.
    You have had plenty of news about winds, etc. that will accompany these upheavals. There will be upheavals and earthquakes for instance, that will not trigger evacuation, so I will speak of cataclysmic proportions.
    We are very experienced in the evacuation of populations of planets! It would be grand if this were not necessary to be true, but alas, it is not even all that uncommon for many various reasons. We will stick to yours and what you might expect.
    We expect, and are practiced and prepared to complete the evacuation of Earth of the souls of Light in some fifteen minutes, regardless of numbers. Further, we will rescue the souls of Light first. Not a bad idea to get on that Light List. Our computers are massive and self updating. Each entity is entered into the system and all changes, to the minute details, are constantly updated. The computers are locked onto the coordinates as designated by your grid ley lines and vortex intersections. At the first indication that there may be need to evacuate, the computers lock onto the location of every energy entity instantly, no matter where might be the location of the human form. Don’t concern yourself with that portion; just make sure you keep the signals attuned on an ongoing basis.
    ALL CHILDREN WILL BE LIFTED
    After the souls of Light have been evacuated, then the children will ALL be lifted off. The children are considered to be non-accountable, so they will be evacuated to special ships to be cared for until they can be reunited with their parents or placed for indefinite care and tending. We have ones well trained for the specific task of handling the children and their trauma. Many may be put into sleep for a period of time to help them overcome their fear and anxiety. Our computer system is far, far beyond anything ever used thus far on Earth in this age it can locate parents of specific children wherever they may be and notify one another of safety or status. THE CHILDREN WILL BE LIFTED TO SAFETY DURING THE EVACUATION, SO DO NOT GIVE UNDUE THOUGHT TO THEM. DO NOT SEEK TO UNITE BEFORE LIFT OFF—TEND YOURSELF AND WE WILL TEND THE CONFUSION.
    After the evacuation of the children, the invitation will be extended to all remaining souls on the planet to join us. However, this will be for only a very, very short time period, perhaps another fifteen minutes or so. There is abundant space for all ones, but because the atmosphere by that elapsed amount of time will be filled with fire, flying debris, poisonous smoke, and because the magnetic field of your planet will be disturbed, we will have to leave your atmosphere very quickly or we, also, with our craft will perish.
    HE WHO HESITATES IS—
    THEREFORE, HE WHO STEPS INTO OUR LEVITATION BEAMS FIRST WILL BE LIFTED FIRST. ANY HESITATION ON YOUR PART WOULD MEAN THE END OF YOUR THIRD DIMENSIONAL EXISTENCE YOU CALL THE PHYSICAL BODY.
    This brings us to the most serious and difficult part of the evacuation: As mentioned earlier, souls of Light have a higher vibration frequency than do those who are more closely “tied” to the Earth and earth concepts and actions.
    Well, since our levitation beams, which will be lifting you off the surface of the planet, are very close to the same thing as your electrical charges as you recognize them, those of low vibrational frequency may not be able to withstand the high frequency of the levitation beams without departing the third-dimensional body. We will get as close as possible so the beam time span is lessened, but it must still be from quite a high altitude.
    When a beam ship lands in “normal” times to invite ones aboard, it is customary to land the craft or hover quite close to your surface. Then our own ones will accompany any entity aboard. It will not be thusly done at evacuation lift-off. If the soul energy departs the third-dimensional body, there may be opportunity for resuscitation and reconnection, or the soul will be released to be housed in appropriate facilities according to agreement with God. At any rate, you would not be left to experience the havoc on your planet surface.
    If you do not decide to step into the levitation beams to be lifted up, you might be one of the few who survive the “cleansing” and changes. However, during this period of cleansing, there will be great changes in climate, in land masses, for the poles of the planet will have a new orientation. This alone will create untold hardship for the survivors. In some areas of specific location it may be possible to have guides and assistants return or in some instances, remain as a support system.
    REMAIN CALM, DO NOT PANIC
    Let me make it very clear as to that which is most detrimental to a successful lift-off. A child we can render unconscious and simply attune the harmonics system. An adult of consenting age must make a choice. ANY RESPONSE OF “FEAR” LOWERS YOUR FREQUENCY OF VIBRATION, THUS MAKING YOU LESS COMPATIBLE WITH THE LEVITATION BEAM FREQUENCIES. THEREFORE, ABOVE ALL ELSE, REMAIN CALM; IF YOU CANNOT GET INTO THE BEAM FOR ANY REASON—REMAIN CALM, WE CAN MOVE THE BEAM. DO NOT PANIC. KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN EXPERT HANDS, HANDS WHICH HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN EVACUATION OF PLANETS—WE KNOW OF THAT WHICH WE ARE ABOUT.
    I CANNOT OVEREMPHASIZE THIS: REMAIN CALM! RELAX! DO NOT PANIC WHEN YOU STEP INTO OUR LEVITATION BEAM OR WHEN IT IS FOCUSED ON YOU. DO NOT WAVE OR THRUST YOUR BODY ABOUT—THE CONNECTION IS MADE AT ENERGY LEVEL, AND MOTION OF THE PHYSICAL BODY IS A GREAT DISTRACTION.
    After lift-off you will be taxied by the shuttle (lift-off) craft to our “mother ships” which are anchored even higher above the planet. There you will be taken care of, depending upon your circumstance. Some of you will need medical care, others will be quite wonderful, but hyperexcited and agitated. Some will be frantic over family members, etc. We have expert medical staff who will be there to treat you with highly advanced equipment—some will simply be placed into a state of sleep until vital signs regain normal status. You will be fed and housed until such time as transfer elsewhere is advisable.
    Some of you will be taken to cities on other planets to be trained in advanced technology before being returned to the planet Earth to start rebuilding. This will all be determined by counseling or prearrangement. Children will be reunited with parents and families, etc.
    Your wondrously beautiful planet is destined to be a most beautiful star within the universe. For long she has waited to take her place of glory. She shall be a beauteous planet of Light. Here, you can rejoin the remainder of the Universe in brotherly love and fellowship within the Lighted Brotherhood of Man with God the Creator.
    Do not scoff at these words, people of Earth. We are sent forth and come willingly and in love of you as our brothers in a great time of distress. As surely as the sun shines from the east to the west, so shall these things shortly come to pass. Let us be prepared, please.
    NO WARNING
    The cataclysms will begin abruptly without warning! Everything will happen so fast you will not have any time to THINK. THINK CAREFULLY ON THESE THINGS NOW AND EFFORT TO COME INTO BALANCE BEFORE IT GROWS TOO LATE FOR CHOICE.
    THERE WILL BE ONES RUNNING ABOUT IN TOTAL CONFUSION, IN PAIN, INJURED—IT WILL BE AS IF THE WHOLE OF THE UNIVERSE IS FALLING IN UPON YOU—MUCH OF WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS YOUR UNIVERSE WILL BE SO DOING, I ASSURE YOU. SO WHAT WILL YOU DO? IDEALLY, YOU WILL PLAN NOW. YOU WILL THEN REMAIN TOTALLY CALM AND WITHOUT FEAR AND AWAIT THE LIGHT BEAMS. THEN STEP INTO THE LEVITATION BEAMS OR REMAIN STATIONARY THAT WE MIGHT AFFIX ONTO YOU. THE BEAMS FLOW FROM THE UNDERNEATH CENTER OF THE CRAFT AND FRANKLY, IT CAN BE MUCH LIKE A HUGE SUCTION CLEANER WHEREBY ALL HAPPENS VERY QUICKLY.
    I suggest you do whatever you can to allow us to come into your sectors without hostility. It appears all probabilites of avoiding this untoward event are past. We see no changes in magnitude of perceptions of such proportions that would alter the course of events. So be it, we will continue to work diligently with that which we are given.
    ADMINISTRATION
    Let us speak a bit of the administering of this program. As Commander for this solar system and its various volunteer units from many areas of space, it is my responsibility to coordinate efforts of the many fleets as they touch into the mission of Shan. When these various factions of force are not thus involved, then, of course, they are self-regulatory and guided under their own supervision. They only come under the jurisdiction of the Interplanetary Confederation if they are here on a specific assignment, correlated to the overall Hierarchal mission to the planet.
    Let me assure you that I understand the doubts regarding credibility—that is a superb success of our dark fragments causing ridicule and outrageous press. I realize there are ones out there claiming to be goddesses and rainbow caped freaks of mammoth personality and ego breakdown. It is for you to look beyond and into Truth. It is why you of our co-workers must not be other than professional and credible. Continue as you are except clean up your attitudes. You will get nowhere by ‘JUST BEING’. No one of our busy workers needs another iota of responsibility—tend of yourselves. Quit your silly games. Who can possibly give credibility to one with purple satin capes blowing in the wind, purple hair with sage bushes stuck hither and yon, and chanting unintelligible garbage. THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT US THAT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND GOD NEEDS ONLY THEE AND HE. ALL ELSE IS BAGGAGE YOU WILL LEAVE BEHIND AT ALL CIRCUMSTANCE. WE HAVE SUPPLIES FOR YOU. WE WILL TAKE YOUR ANIMAL AND FEATHERED PETS AND PLACE THEM IN SAFETY. WHEN GOD PREPARES A PLACE FOR YOU, HE DOES A MOST EFFICIENT JOB OF IT. ALL THE REMAINDER OF THIS ”NEW AGE” NONSENSE IS EXACTLY THAT—NONSENSE, AND WILL MOST SURELY HINDER YOUR PROGRESS. SO BE IT!
    There are many from other places in the cosmos who will come simply of their own volition and their own purposes. To these, we merely extend our hospitality and our accord. The exception to the rule would be any of those who come for reasons that would be harmful to the planet or its inhabitants. These ones are carefully policed and, if deviant, are escorted beyond the system and sent about their other affairs. Those remaining close are expected to participate if needed and stay completely clear of interference at any evacuation alert. There are often replacement fleets who come to relieve others of their tour of duty. Some of our brothers have been on alert at Earth station for a very, very long time and are weary and ready to return to their own homes. There is a continuing turnover of fleet participation in the many patrol units involved. Those tours of duty are not of an indefinite nature, but have a set period of time in which to begin and end, with others of relief coming to replace and rotate duty stations. Many of the assignments given to these many volunteer fleets are done on a ‘need of circumstance’ basis.
    EARTH-BASED GROUND UNITS
    Strong representative ground units necessitate the contacts in keeping with the frequencies of the fleet and its representative. Thus, one representative will primarily always be in contact with its own Interstellar Command, even though the crew may be replaced occasionally, but always by their own members.
    There are other earth-based personnel who are representatives “at large”, who may make contact and be at the disposal of any Command units in the area. For instance, if there is need for communications in this sector, Dharma would respond instantly. There would rarely be need of such for all craft would first be instructed to contact our fleet ship, and thus the sequence of information.
    Remember that each base or unit does at all times, have its personal craft hovering within its vortex for personal immediate relaying of messages to or from that unit. This station or platform never changes, although the persons involved might be removed temporarily for rest and relaxation, to return later. All of our signals, beams, and contacts are relayed to our messengers through the medium of these individual platforms of contact. Sometimes the terminals are aboard command ships, as in this case.
    In the “atmosphere” (assuming the craft or platform to be within the atmosphere) there is an identifying beam projection for identification purposes to those who patrol the flight paths. The beam projection identifies the particular command sponsoring the base unit. Because of the crystal communication center located at this particular location, there is constant action in your heavens.
    If I have need for additional support units for any reason, I can reach further out for assistance to the Federation and I will be sent whatever assistance is necessary.
    EVIL
    Enough of that. I also feel you know of my devotion to the Master Teacher and that Earth is going to have to find balance for survival of a species. To understand the Light Forces you must understand the evil forces. I do not speak of “good” vs. “bad”, I refer to evil vs. Godness.
    For those of you who have twiddled about and have come up with the notion that there is no such thing as evil, I assure you that you are incorrect in your assumption.
    I am going to do a brief dissertation of evil and its presence and then, Oberli, I request that the lessons given prior to this on that subject be integrated within this JOURNAL.
    There are those who come who are not from our allegiance and who have no part in it. They come as observers and for their own ends. They are often highly scientific geniuses and their material to their contacts can be highly impressive—indeed, almost always is most impressive. However, beware, for it comes with a most expensive price tag. They have come for the purpose of collecting data for their own personal ends and not to give of themselves for the good of the planet. They care little for your spiritual advancement—they care very little about you one way or another, you represent a curiosity of primitive life form. These ones are not considered portions of the ‘dark forces’, which is another allegiance, but are simply a neutral force when it comes to assistance to earthman in higher principles and laws contributing to his soul growth. There are many worlds out there, dear ones, many galaxies with individual solar systems and within other universes. You will experience with ones most similar to your species. But the others travel the pathways among the stars and planets. They are under universal Law and will not interfere with your transition, although many will be drawn for the experience.
    The so-called DARK FORCES are those of our own galaxy who are openly opposed to the Brotherhood of Light, its principles and standards and goals for mankind and the planet Earth. They would seize the planet if that were a possibility. They would bring it under control for their own purposes, which would destroy the freedom of man.
    The bands of renegades that patrol the terrestrial realms are immediately dispatched to their proper level when overtaken in trespassing activities. The fleets of the heavenly commands are prompt to transpsort such intruders on their way elsewhere. IT IS ON YOUR PLANE IN YOUR OCTAVE WHEREIN THE ENEMY MUST BE MET AND DEALT WITH FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT.
    There are dark forces who are evil in their intent. We maintain very close surveillance of them. Most have been removed from the Earth atmosphere, but there will be a great redistribution of dark energies as this planet shuts down activities, so we have an enforced truce.
    I am most troubled by those ones who seem convinced that there is no such thing as evil. It seems this reasoning goes along with the idea that God is somehow dead and that Satan is some kind of false myth.
    Brothers, a rule of thumb: Anything which deliberately hurts and hinders another individual is evil, and when it is willfully and maliciously designed to do so, it is even MORE EVIL. WE of the Federation surround and defend the Earth as much as is possible, but you have all you need right on board to destroy you in total. Just as Sananda has a fleet, so does the Satanian empire. Watch closely as you contact any of these space brothers. A “positive” man will always quickly identify himself and broadcast thoughts of Light and goodwill. You will KNOW that this is God-Lighted man.
    A Satanian will not identify himself in a satisfactory manner, or not at all. He, further, will flee if one directs Light at him and demands he depart. Never approach a craft until you are sure that it is MAN’S. ALWAYS USE “THE LIGHT” IN YOUR GREETING. MAN WILL WELCOME IT. A SATANIAN WILL REMOVE HIMSELF FROM A GREETING IN THE LIGHT.
    Further, you will not be taken by force by either side. It is up to you to accept or deny. The agreement is usually made on a much higher dimension than at pick-up point. Refuse to go in the name of the Light and you will be left alone. It is a Law which is not broken.
    I am not going to give you descriptions of craft of which to beware for as you move close to the transition there are ones from galaxies far distant from Earth whose ships are quite different. Most of the Lighted galactic ships are spherical in shape and easily identified. Most of Hatonn’s command of Pleiades and almost all of my immediate command ships have brilliant rotating red, green, yellow and white lights. We are easily identified at night for we station between you and orbiting stars and planets that we have constant surveillance. Most will appear no different than a star. We effort at showing our presence to our Earth-based workers for confirmation of our presence. We will soon be moving into your visible consciousness.
    Enough for today, Dharma. You are weary for you have moved at this pace for several weeks now, and we must not have short circuits and “burn out”. Go in peace and renew, for we have much to accomplish. In appreciation and love I salute you, chela.
    ADONAI ASHTAR TO STAND-BY OUT
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    My nordic ancestors sat down in their wodden halls with them and drank mead and probably had a good talk and laugh. So it is written in the uncensored old german Edda from about 1920 (The Texts have been preserved from the hands of the church in Island more than 1000 years ago. The church was to stupid to realize that Island was also of nordic origin and let them have their myths and stories).


    I would probably do the same, have a glas of wine and have a wonderful conversation about the universe and everything

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    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
    Lol...how do you know?

    Sounds like your refering to planet Earth to me!

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
    Lol...how do you know?

    Sounds like your refering to planet Earth to me!

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    Hi Viking,

    I think that is what ghostrider was saying What would happen to them rather than what they would do to us...

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    Obviously deceptive - if a benevolent civilisation had decided to lift us off, for our own safety, they would be able to contact us, warn us, and show us the process in good time. There would be none of this 'there will only be 15 minutes' or 'some of you with lower energy will physically not survive when they are beamed up'. This is out of alignment with the process of life. If it is our path to die in Earth cataclysms then no enlightened beings would interfere with that.

    If they wanted to move us physically there would not be a proviso about some being physically killed by the beaming process. Sounds like we might be lucky enough to watch humans being partially consumed by a beam that really is just taking their soul. See the movie 'Quatermass'

    If entities approach us with such a deceptive, imperfect sales pitch best avoid.

    Lets concentrate on reversing the negative trajectory on earth here and now.

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    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
    I would try to find out by friendly interaction/talks who they are and what life to them is, what kind of society they have.
    I would do that before using your words ghostrider, because I might find they would fit right into to our negative power/greed leader world 0.o

    If I found them to be: nice, caring, helpful and compassionate I would smile and hug them then show them many of the posts found in Project Avalon pages, this would help show them our dreams and concerns. This would help show we are a great planet, but sadly we are governed by dark negative leaders.

    Then I would ask for a ride in one of their ships and really get to know them

    I would try to keep a positive face and energy
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    Quote Posted by jc71 (here)
    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
    Lol...how do you know?

    Sounds like your refering to planet Earth to me!

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    Hi Viking,

    I think that is what ghostrider was saying What would happen to them rather than what they would do to us...

    JC
    Lol...🤐...sorry Ghost rider..misread your post...

    Yeah too true, suppose you would think why would anyone from above come here...I am sure they have tried to help us in the past but were dismissed and information suppressed...ect.

    Hi Baby...maybe they have warned us but again info has been hidden...I haven't seen Quatermass but sounds like more Hollywood mind control to me...

    On another note let's hope we can reverse the negative energies...I agree with that one...time will tell, that's for sure...☺️

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    QUATERMASS (quite a dark movie)

    two scary bits are at 1.54 and 2.27



    Quote Plot

    In the last quarter of the 20th century, the whole world seemed to sicken. Civilised institutions, whether old or new, fell ... as if some primal disorder was reasserting itself. And men asked themselves, "Why should this be?"
    Chapter One: Ringstone Round
    Quatermass (John Mills), now living in retirement in Scotland, travels to London in search of his granddaughter, Hettie Carlson (Rebecca Saire), who has gone missing. He is shocked by the scale of the urban collapse that has struck the city – law and order has broken down and marauding gangs terrorise the litter-strewn, decaying streets. Appearing as a guest on a television programme covering the "Hands in Space" project, a joint space mission between the United States and Russia, Quatermass is horrified when the two spacecraft are destroyed by some unknown force. Astronomer Joe Kapp (Simon MacCorkindale), another guest on the programme, invites Quatermass to join him at his home in the country where he has constructed a radio telescope. At the radio telescope, Kapp's colleagues report that they detected a powerful signal at the exact time of the incident in space. Quatermass is intrigued by the behaviour of a group of hippie-like youngsters known as the Planet People, who are travelling to various neolithic sites from where they believe they will be transported to a better life on another planet. Quatermass suspects Hettie has joined them. Along with Kapp's wife, Claire (Barbara Kellerman), Quatermass and Kapp follow a group of Planet People to a stone circle of megaliths, Ringstone Round. As they watch, the Planet People assembled inside the circle are bathed in a bright light and disappear, leaving only a residue of white dust.
    Chapter Two: Lovely Lightning
    The Planet People's leader, Kickalong (Ralph Arliss), believes that the Planet People gathered at Ringstone Round have been transported—as promised—to the planet, but it is clear to Quatermass and Kapp that they have been reduced to ashes. One survivor – a girl called Isabel (Annabelle Lanyon) who deliriously talks about "lovely lightning" – is found and is brought back to the Kapps' cottage. Making contact with NASA scientist Chuck Marshall (Tony Sibbald), they learn that thousands of young people have disappeared in similar incidents all around the world. Quatermass, aided by District Commissioner Annie Morgan (Margaret Tyzack), decides to bring Isabel to London for tests. As they make their journey, Quatermass speculates as to whether there is any connection between recent events and the decline in society. Reaching London, they are attacked by a gang. Quatermass is yanked from the car but Annie and Isabel manage to escape. Meanwhile, a large number of Planet People arrive at the radio telescope, congregating at the stone circle on its grounds. Working at a perimeter building, Kapp is horrified to see the light strike the area around his home – rushing home, he finds his family gone.
    Chapter Three: What Lies Beneath
    Quatermass is rescued by a group of elderly people living in a scrap yard. At the hospital, the doctors are shocked when Isabel levitates off her bed and explodes in a cloud of dust. Elsewhere, the devastated Kapp is left alone in the ruins of his cottage and observatory. More and more young people are joining the Planet People, including the gangs that have been terrorising the cities and the soldiers assigned to keep them away from the Megalithic sites. Contact is restored with Chuck Marshall and with the Russians in the form of Gurov (Brewster Mason). Quatermass theorises that this is not the first time this has happened; megalithic sites such as prehistoric stone circles are in fact markers where beacons have been left by the alien force for its next visit. Quatermass believes the force is a sphere of energy surrounding the Earth. The Russians and the Americans send a space shuttle, commanded by Marshall, to make contact with the force. Quatermass is sceptical; he believes they are dealing not with an intelligence but with a machine constructed to harvest human protein. The space shuttle is destroyed but not before Marshall reports a giant beam of light stretching in all directions. Meanwhile, the Planet People are gathering at Wembley Stadium in the tens of thousands. Annie and Quatermass travel to the stadium but are powerless to prevent the Planet People from gathering. When they are attacked, Annie drives their car into the underground car park beneath the stadium where she crashes the vehicle and is killed. The lightning strikes the stadium.
    Chapter Four: An Endangered Species
    Quatermass emerges from the car park to find the stadium empty. So many have now been harvested that the particles of dust in the air have turned the sky green. Kapp attempts to repair his equipment in order to contact the alien presence, but the Planet People destroy his efforts. They try to persuade him to join them but he refuses, convinced now that his family are dead. Quatermass, aided by Gurov, who has travelled to London from Moscow, assembles a team of scientists to find a solution. He deliberately selects old people for the task as they are immune to the effects of the alien force. Quatermass decides to set a trap. He plans to fake the presence of a large gathering of Planet People at Kapp's observatory and, when the force comes, to detonate a nuclear weapon. Quatermass does not believe this will be sufficient to destroy the alien machine but he hopes that it will damage it enough to make it go away. Kapp volunteers to stay behind with Quatermass to help detonate the bomb. The pair set up the trap and wait. Suddenly, Kickalong appears with a group of Planet People, including Quatermass' granddaughter, Hettie. Kapp tries to warn them away but is shot by Kickalong. The light appears, indicating that the alien force has arrived, but the shock of seeing his granddaughter among the Planet People causes Quatermass to suffer a heart attack. However, aided by Hettie, he is able to detonate the bomb. Later, according to Gurov, "The message was taken. It has not come again. We pray it will never come again".
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Shake and quiver !!

    Your NEVER going to be prepared for the "illusion" to become reality no matter how much you think you are !

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    QUATERMASS (quite a dark movie)

    two scary bits are at 1.54 and 2.27



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    In the last quarter of the 20th century, the whole world seemed to sicken. Civilised institutions, whether old or new, fell ... as if some primal disorder was reasserting itself. And men asked themselves, "Why should this be?"
    Chapter One: Ringstone Round
    Quatermass (John Mills), now living in retirement in Scotland, travels to London in search of his granddaughter, Hettie Carlson (Rebecca Saire), who has gone missing. He is shocked by the scale of the urban collapse that has struck the city – law and order has broken down and marauding gangs terrorise the litter-strewn, decaying streets. Appearing as a guest on a television programme covering the "Hands in Space" project, a joint space mission between the United States and Russia, Quatermass is horrified when the two spacecraft are destroyed by some unknown force. Astronomer Joe Kapp (Simon MacCorkindale), another guest on the programme, invites Quatermass to join him at his home in the country where he has constructed a radio telescope. At the radio telescope, Kapp's colleagues report that they detected a powerful signal at the exact time of the incident in space. Quatermass is intrigued by the behaviour of a group of hippie-like youngsters known as the Planet People, who are travelling to various neolithic sites from where they believe they will be transported to a better life on another planet. Quatermass suspects Hettie has joined them. Along with Kapp's wife, Claire (Barbara Kellerman), Quatermass and Kapp follow a group of Planet People to a stone circle of megaliths, Ringstone Round. As they watch, the Planet People assembled inside the circle are bathed in a bright light and disappear, leaving only a residue of white dust.
    Chapter Two: Lovely Lightning
    The Planet People's leader, Kickalong (Ralph Arliss), believes that the Planet People gathered at Ringstone Round have been transported—as promised—to the planet, but it is clear to Quatermass and Kapp that they have been reduced to ashes. One survivor – a girl called Isabel (Annabelle Lanyon) who deliriously talks about "lovely lightning" – is found and is brought back to the Kapps' cottage. Making contact with NASA scientist Chuck Marshall (Tony Sibbald), they learn that thousands of young people have disappeared in similar incidents all around the world. Quatermass, aided by District Commissioner Annie Morgan (Margaret Tyzack), decides to bring Isabel to London for tests. As they make their journey, Quatermass speculates as to whether there is any connection between recent events and the decline in society. Reaching London, they are attacked by a gang. Quatermass is yanked from the car but Annie and Isabel manage to escape. Meanwhile, a large number of Planet People arrive at the radio telescope, congregating at the stone circle on its grounds. Working at a perimeter building, Kapp is horrified to see the light strike the area around his home – rushing home, he finds his family gone.
    Chapter Three: What Lies Beneath
    Quatermass is rescued by a group of elderly people living in a scrap yard. At the hospital, the doctors are shocked when Isabel levitates off her bed and explodes in a cloud of dust. Elsewhere, the devastated Kapp is left alone in the ruins of his cottage and observatory. More and more young people are joining the Planet People, including the gangs that have been terrorising the cities and the soldiers assigned to keep them away from the Megalithic sites. Contact is restored with Chuck Marshall and with the Russians in the form of Gurov (Brewster Mason). Quatermass theorises that this is not the first time this has happened; megalithic sites such as prehistoric stone circles are in fact markers where beacons have been left by the alien force for its next visit. Quatermass believes the force is a sphere of energy surrounding the Earth. The Russians and the Americans send a space shuttle, commanded by Marshall, to make contact with the force. Quatermass is sceptical; he believes they are dealing not with an intelligence but with a machine constructed to harvest human protein. The space shuttle is destroyed but not before Marshall reports a giant beam of light stretching in all directions. Meanwhile, the Planet People are gathering at Wembley Stadium in the tens of thousands. Annie and Quatermass travel to the stadium but are powerless to prevent the Planet People from gathering. When they are attacked, Annie drives their car into the underground car park beneath the stadium where she crashes the vehicle and is killed. The lightning strikes the stadium.
    Chapter Four: An Endangered Species
    Quatermass emerges from the car park to find the stadium empty. So many have now been harvested that the particles of dust in the air have turned the sky green. Kapp attempts to repair his equipment in order to contact the alien presence, but the Planet People destroy his efforts. They try to persuade him to join them but he refuses, convinced now that his family are dead. Quatermass, aided by Gurov, who has travelled to London from Moscow, assembles a team of scientists to find a solution. He deliberately selects old people for the task as they are immune to the effects of the alien force. Quatermass decides to set a trap. He plans to fake the presence of a large gathering of Planet People at Kapp's observatory and, when the force comes, to detonate a nuclear weapon. Quatermass does not believe this will be sufficient to destroy the alien machine but he hopes that it will damage it enough to make it go away. Kapp volunteers to stay behind with Quatermass to help detonate the bomb. The pair set up the trap and wait. Suddenly, Kickalong appears with a group of Planet People, including Quatermass' granddaughter, Hettie. Kapp tries to warn them away but is shot by Kickalong. The light appears, indicating that the alien force has arrived, but the shock of seeing his granddaughter among the Planet People causes Quatermass to suffer a heart attack. However, aided by Hettie, he is able to detonate the bomb. Later, according to Gurov, "The message was taken. It has not come again. We pray it will never come again".
    Thanks for that Baby Steps I remember it well, a must see.
    They said it all in that series and all way back in 79 ha.

    Quote two scary bits are at 1.54 and 2.27
    The whole series is way past scary, but compared to how things have turned out nowadays hmm!

    If I remember correctly you don't actually find out the masses are being killed (do you ?)
    maybe they where being beamed over to a better place 0.o.
    In reality how could you know, you either believe and or trust in your own instinct and divorce your self from emotion for a while.

    It's just like the 'White Light' while passing over, do you blindly believe and go to the light or do you look around first and maybe make a better choice.
    See Avalon past post concerning 'The White Light trap' discussions.
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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
    I would try to find out by friendly interaction/talks who they are and what life to them is, what kind of society they have.
    I would do that before using your words ghostrider, because I might find they would fit right into to our negative power/greed leader world 0.o

    If I found them to be: nice, caring, helpful and compassionate I would smile and hug them then show them many of the posts found in Project Avalon pages, this would help show them our dreams and concerns. This would help show we are a great planet, but sadly we are governed by dark negative leaders.

    Then I would ask for a ride in one of their ships and really get to know them

    I would try to keep a positive face and energy
    I from, my gut instinct, would not trust any of them. They have had the advantage of seeing us and studying us forever, and so they know very well what we are, where we come from and our capabilities. So by stating they are going to "save " us makes no sense, it only reinforces my belief that that they will always have hidden agendas. That savior speech has gotten old.

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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
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    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
    I would try to find out by friendly interaction/talks who they are and what life to them is, what kind of society they have.
    I would do that before using your words ghostrider, because I might find they would fit right into to our negative power/greed leader world 0.o

    If I found them to be: nice, caring, helpful and compassionate I would smile and hug them then show them many of the posts found in Project Avalon pages, this would help show them our dreams and concerns. This would help show we are a great planet, but sadly we are governed by dark negative leaders.

    Then I would ask for a ride in one of their ships and really get to know them

    I would try to keep a positive face and energy
    I from, my gut instinct, would not trust any of them. They have had the advantage of seeing us and studying us forever, and so they know very well what we are, where we come from and our capabilities. So by stating they are going to "save " us makes no sense, it only reinforces my belief that that they will always have hidden agendas. That savior speech has gotten old.
    Hi Mercedes...

    Yes... that particular speech was from 1989...

    Not sure they would have hidden agendas though...

    I think once you are allowed into those dimensions you operate under a strict code of law...

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    I would tell them to turn around and run like hell , these maniacs will try to deceive you, lie to you in a smoke screen of friendship and peace, then figure out a way to make money off you while they make rules telling you what you can and cannot do ...
    I would try to find out by friendly interaction/talks who they are and what life to them is, what kind of society they have.
    I would do that before using your words ghostrider, because I might find they would fit right into to our negative power/greed leader world 0.o

    If I found them to be: nice, caring, helpful and compassionate I would smile and hug them then show them many of the posts found in Project Avalon pages, this would help show them our dreams and concerns. This would help show we are a great planet, but sadly we are governed by dark negative leaders.

    Then I would ask for a ride in one of their ships and really get to know them

    I would try to keep a positive face and energy
    I from, my gut instinct, would not trust any of them. They have had the advantage of seeing us and studying us forever, and so they know very well what we are, where we come from and our capabilities. So by stating they are going to "save " us makes no sense, it only reinforces my belief that that they will always have hidden agendas. That savior speech has gotten old.
    I understand your view point but,
    It's a closed view point.

    Imagine you did that throughout your life, you would have no friends and be very narrow experienced

    Some of them (speeches) like us are individually different (Unless it's a Hive Minded speeches) So they might well be looking for individuals of open kind minds to communicate with.
    As they have been throughout our history.

    It always comes back to, If they wan't to do us harm they will, not much we could do about it really.
    Unless we have behind the scene friends helping maybe.
    As I did when a kid at school, I warned off the bullies from picking on the weak, and yes at my own cost
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    Not sure they would have hidden agendas though...

    I think once you are allowed into those dimensions you operate under a strict code of law...

    Viking
    Well, that is if one only does what one is supposed to do, right? But being as I am do not believe these peoples will always respect a code of law. At least not all or many of them when it serves their purposes. Saying that they do (By them) does not make them law abiding entities, regardless of the dimension they dwell in. At least not the ones we deal with in this life.

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    I understand your view point but,
    It's a closed view point.

    Imagine you did that throughout your life, you would have no friends and be very narrow experienced

    Some of them (speeches) like us are individually different (Unless it's a Hive Minded speeches) So they might well be looking for individuals of open kind minds to communicate with.
    As they have been throughout our history.

    It always comes back to, If they wan't to do us harm they will, not much we could do about it really.
    Unless we have behind the scene friends helping maybe.
    As I did when a kid at school, I warned off the bullies from picking on the weak, and yes at my own cost
    I have a problem with this reasoning because they are advanced in many ways and still they choose to go to the worship me method. We will save you but... do this or that. Maybe I've become skeptical of their motives, but history has made it so clear what they want us and this planet for. And the experiences they would have me learn would be just to reinforce and ensure my acceptance.

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    Not sure they would have hidden agendas though...

    I think once you are allowed into those dimensions you operate under a strict code of law...

    Viking
    Well, that is if one only does what one is supposed to do, right? But being as I am do not believe these peoples will always respect a code of law. At least not all or many of them when it serves their purposes. Saying that they do (By them) does not make them law abiding entities, regardless of the dimension they dwell in. At least not the ones we deal with in this life.
    There is such a thing as cosmic law... IMO the upper realms are policed with very strict codes of conduct...they will be privey to the universal laws of creation, as beyond here they must adhere to the laws otherwise back to basics...simple as...here on planet earth we all have freewill and you can do what you want...you can take in messages from above or take your chances down here if we have irreversible earth changes. Your choice, no one will force you against your freewill. All you can do is make sense of the information you receive and action. Common sense prevails imo.

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    Not sure they would have hidden agendas though...

    I think once you are allowed into those dimensions you operate under a strict code of law...

    Viking
    Well, that is if one only does what one is supposed to do, right? But being as I am do not believe these peoples will always respect a code of law. At least not all or many of them when it serves their purposes. Saying that they do (By them) does not make them law abiding entities, regardless of the dimension they dwell in. At least not the ones we deal with in this life.
    There is such a thing as cosmic law... IMO the upper realms are policed with very strict codes of conduct...they will be privey to the universal laws of creation, as beyond here they must adhere to the laws otherwise back to basics...simple as...here on planet earth we all have freewill and you can do what you want...you can take in messages from above or take your chances down here if we have irreversible earth changes. Your choice, no one will force you against your freewill. All you can do is make sense of the information you receive and action. Common sense prevails imo.

    Viking
    I agree, and there might be cosmic laws also, but that does not mean that everybody abides by them. They also have free will and they also will do what they want. In the end, it is how you say, we all should make sense of the information presented and USE our common sense. Do not let anyone decide for you.

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