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    THE ORIGIN OF CHRISTMAS

    By Truman Cash -- 1996

    Have you ever wondered where our Christmas traditions came from? Why do we celebrate Christmas on December 25th every year? Why do we cut down evergreen trees and decorate them? Is this really the birth date of a man/god called Jesus Christ? Read on ye innocent lambs--you will be most amazed when you discover what we have not been told.

    He was the "Light of the World", the Savior of mankind, the Son of God whose mother, some believed, was a mortal virgin. His birth, celebrated on the 25th of December, was attended by shepherds and by Magi bringing gifts. He healed the sick, raised the dead, cast out demons, caused the blind to see and the lame to walk. At his Last Supper his twelve disciples shared a sacramental meal of bread and wine--the wine representing the Savior's blood and the bread his body. Upon his death he was placed in a stone tomb where he was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. His symbol was the cross.

    Am I describing the Savior known as Jesus Christ? Absolutely not. This was Mithra, the God of War!

    Mithraism was a men-only secret society religion with Masonic overtones. There were at least seven levels of initiation and seven sacraments including baptism and the eucharist. In one rite the initiates were placed in a trench under a grate where a live bull was sacrificed ("Taurobolium"), so that they would be literally "washed in the blood". The Mithraic symbol of the cross was branded on the initiates forehead. The word "mithra" meant "covenant".

    Those who were faithful to Mithra went to Heaven, while the unfaithful and wicked were destroyed in the final holocaust. Like most Sun God religions, Mithraists celebrated the rebirth of the sun right after the winter solstice on the first day that daylight begins to increase--December 25th.

    So did the Mithraists adopt the sacraments and teachings of Jesus Christ from Christians? Not hardly.

    The worship of Mithra began centuries--and perhaps millennia--before the purported birth of Jesus Christ. We can trace the origin of Mithra back to at least 1400 B.C. when the war-like, nomadic Aryans had invaded what is now India and Iran. The Aryan Sun God was Mitra.

    In India the Aryan religion eventually developed into Hinduism and then the splinter group, Buddhism. In Iran the religion of Zoroastrianism developed in which Mithra was the Sun God, "Lord of Light", who became the Son of God. The God of the Zoroastrians was Ahura Mazda, depicted as a bearded man who flew around in a winged disk, like the Assyrian "God" Ashur, the "All-Seeing", and the Egyptian "God" Ra.

    Historians are not certain when the prophet Zoroaster (Zarathustra) started the Persian religion, but it was at least 5 1/2 centuries before Christ. In this apocalyptic, monotheistic religion Zoroaster prophesied that there would appear three Messiahs, each one born of a virgin. Zoroastrianism was a dualistic, Heaven/Hell, good vs. evil religion in which Ahriman was the head devil, the equivalent of the Christian Satan.

    Mithraism and Zoroastrianism were syncretized (merged), and Mithra became the good "angel" who saved mankind from the Great Serpent of Darkness, Ahriman. (The name Ahriman and the name of the country of Iran were both taken from the root word "Aryan".) This belief paralleled the Egyptian belief that the Sun God/Son of God Ra defeated the great serpent Apepi (Apophis).

    Mithra was depicted as a man wearing Iranian garb with a Phrygian cap, sacrificing a bull. (Phrygia was located in the northwest quadrant of Turkey, and the Phrygian cap was later adopted as the rallying symbol of the Illuminati and the French Revolutionists.)

    Mithraism spread from Persia to Phrygia to the Greek world, but didn't really become widespread until 67 B.C. when it was introduced into the Roman Empire. It then grew rapidly and became very popular with Roman soldiers, statesmen, peasants, and even some emperors like Nero, Julian, and Commodus. Eventually Mithraism was practiced in cave temples from Scotland to the Far East and was even more popular than Christianity.

    Mithra's cave-temple on Vatican Hill was seized by Christians in 376 A.D. The Christians gradually appropriated Mithraic sacraments and holidays ("Holy Days") including Easter, and Mithra's high priest's title of Pater Patrum became "Papa" and then "Pope". Due to the widespread influence of Sun God religions like Mithraism, the Christians changed the Sabbath from Saturn Day to Sun Day.

    Another very popular Phrygian mystery religion that greatly influenced Christianity was the Attis/Cybele cult, which did not exclude women. Cybele was just another one of the many names of the "Queen of Heaven", the Goddess Ishtar, Isis, Ashtoreth, Ioanna, Aphrodite, Venus, Mari-Anna, etc., who was one of Ra's ET cohorts. The Roman Church appropriated the pagan Goddess image by deifying Mary, and beginning in the 12th Century A.D. the iconography in Gothic Churches even depicted the Mother Mary with a crown as the "Queen of Heaven".

    In one version of the story Attis was born of Cybele's earthly incarnation, Nana, a virgin. (The name "Nana" was most likely a cognate of the Sumerian "Inanna".) Attis, who was also called "Pappa" in Phrygia, was the Savior of mankind who sacrificed himself by castrating himself under a pine tree and subsequently bleeding to death. He was often depicted wearing a Phrygian cap and, like Jesus, held a shepherd's crook. Like Mithra, Attis was born on December 25th and was conceived on March 25th. The day of Attis' death was Black Friday, and he was resurrected three days later on Sun Day. (As in Mithraism, this holy day later became Easter in Christianity.)

    The four-day celebration of Cybele and Attis began on March 22nd wherein Attis was symbolically sacrificed. Eunuch priests carried a pine tree into the temple and bound an effigy of Attis to the tree to insure good crops, good fortune, and the salvation of the people. It appears that in ancient celebrations a living eunuch high priest was actually crucified on a pine tree. In later traditions, however, pine trees were cut down, brought indoors, and decorated with ribbons and violets in memory of Attis. (Sound familiar?) In the annuaI celebration of Attis, initiates actually castrated themselves and offered their severed testicles to Cybele while frenzied eunuch priests slashed themselves with knives and swords.

    Like Mithraism, the Attis/Cybele cult used the Taurobolium, and sometimes sacrificed a lamb instead of a bull, so that the initiates would be literally "washed in the blood of the lamb". The ancient Phrygian Attis/Cybele cult was first introduced to the Roman Empire over two hundred years before Christ and eventually became part of the Roman State religion.

    Human and animaI sacrifices had been a requirement set by the Ra/lshtar/Thoth ET group thousands of years before this time. Ritual regicide was a common practice in which the king or a substitute king was considered to be a Son of God born of the Virgin Goddess (Queen of Heaven and Earth). The god/kings were then ritually sacrificed--sometimes with a female virgin--to insure good crops, etc., and the god/king was believed to have been resurrected.

    The Christian Church gradually adopted and adjusted the liturgies of these "pagan" religions in the first millennium A.D. Ironically, this means that Christianity itself is a pagan religion. Originally, the word "pagan" meant "country dweller", which meant that pagan religions were of the common people as opposed to the religion of the government.

    In 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicea, the emperor Constantine ended the persecution of Christians and allowed a standardized (orthodox) version of Christianity to exist along side of the pagan religions. Eventually, however, the Roman Empire adopted Christianity as the official State religion in order to unify the first one-world government. Then an inhumane war was waged against all competitors, which were, of course, the religions of the common people. Most of these "pagan" religions taught the doctrine of reincarnation. However, in 553 A.D. the emperor Justinian outlawed the belief in past lives ("prior existence of souls") and "heretics" were excommunicated, imprisoned, or killed.

    We are just now learning from Biblical scholars that the Gospels were not written by anyone who actually knew Jesus of Nazareth. In fact, the Gospels were not even written until at least a generation after the death of Jesus. Not only are there some very suspicious contradictions between the stories of Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John, but it appears that the town of Nazareth didn't even exist until the 3rd century A.D.! Truly, we have been deceived.

    Strangely, there are no historical references to Jesus (Yeshua), which were recorded during his lifetime on Earth. One would imagine that a person who could walk on water would get some press; however, this was a common claim of ascetic Buddhist monks. There remains the uncertain possibility that Jesus Christ was entirely mythological.

    However, he may have been a historical figure, a revolutionary against the new world order of Rome, possibly descended from King David, campaigning to unite the religion/state of Israel as prophesied. The Roman Empire would have everything to gain by wiping out any evidence of this kind of historical Jesus. The Empire did strike back in their book burning campaign that destroyed most of the "heretical" Gospels that were written after the death of the messiah.

    [Note: The original meaning of messiah didn't have the far-reaching connotations that are assigned to this word today, and Christ (Greek "Christos"), which meant "Anointed One," was a title ascribed to other sacrificial Gods such as Adonis, Tammuz, and Osiris, all consorts of the "Queen of Heaven." Anointing originated with Oriental cults wherein phallic symbols were smeared with oil in sacred marriage rites.]

    In 1945 the Gnostic Gospels (Nag Hammadi Codices) were discovered in Egypt. ("Gnosis" means "knowledge" in the intuitive or spiritual sense.) These 52 texts were not written by anyone who knew Jesus (Yeshua) personally, and they were all written after his lifetime. However, they do contain intriguing conversations of Jesus with his brother James and Mary Magdalene, who claimed that Jesus had given them his esoteric teachings. In the 4th century A.D. the emperor Constantine prohibited Gnostic Christian meetings and ordered their Gospels to be burned, so that "orthodox" Christianity would prevail.

    Ironically, Constantine was not even a Christian; he was a Sun God worshipper in the cult of Sol Invictus, which meant "Invincible Sun" and, like the Attis/Cybele cult, was closely aligned with Mithraism. Constantine functioned as the high priest of Sol Invictus his entire life, celebrating the "rebirth of the sun" on December 25th. He even claimed to have had personal visions and messages from the Sun God, which most likely indicates that the Roman Empire--the New Order of the Ages espoused by the poet Virgil--was the brain child of the Ra/lshtar/Thoth ET group.

    [Note: The words NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM--"New Order of the Ages"--which appear below the all-seeing eye and pyramid on the Great Seal of the United States, were purportedly inspired by the writings of Virgil. The first Roman emperor, Caesar Augustus, sponsored Virgil in writing THE AENEID, a national epic poem that heralded the beginning of the Roman one-world government.

    However, the words ANNUIT COEPTIS NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM were also found on documents of the French Grand Orient Masons and the Illuminati. According to secret society researcher Jordan Maxwell, these documents are still on display in the Louvre and a British museum. To a degree the Illuminati appeared to emulate Mithraism.

    The Gnostic Gospels reveal a very different Jesus--a man who lectured on the specifics of reincarnation (some of which was disinformation)--and he frequently alluded to the need to discover the "mysteries". The allusion to the mysteries, though, adds to their authenticity, as mystery religions and secret societies have existed for thousands of years and were ubiquitous during this time period. Even in the New Testament. Jesus told his twelve disciples. "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables." (Mark 4:11)

    This illustrates a common denominator of mystery religions and secret societies, the two of which fit together like a hand and glove--the outer religion is the glove and the inner secret society is the hand. The inner secrets are concealed under a deceptive facade of insignificant, but appealing rituals, parables, and symbols that are used to keep the common people and lower initiates from discovering the inner secrets and, ultimately, the true purpose of the secret society/religion. The principle of "lesser and greater mysteries" was a prevalent aspect of other mystery religions besides Christianity.

    Jesus purportedly said, "Be ye therefore wise as serpents and innocent as doves." (Matthew 10: 16) This is yet another example of a hidden meaning and symbolism that implicates involvement with secret societies and mystery religions.

    The serpent is a symbol of the manipulative Pleiadian group of Ra, Ishtar and Thoth and the dove is specifically one of Ishtar's symbols under her Gnostic name Sophia and also as Aphrodite. Also, recall that Moses claimed to possess the serpent staff, which is the Pleiadian symbol.

    Given the monopoly that the Ral/shtar/Thoth group has had over the planet's religions, it is entirely possible that a historical Jesus (Yeshua) was being directly manipulated by these ETs. The language and symbols he used indicate that, at the very least, he was influenced indirectly by them--that is, if the Gospels were not a complete fabrication by the Roman Empire. It is also noteworthy that the alleged miracles performed by Jesus were actually possible with ET technology as I have personally observed.

    Mithraism, Gnostism, and the Attis/Cybele cult were certainly not the only mystery religions that contributed to our modem celebration of Christmas and to Christianity in general. Both Greek and Egyptian mystery cults such as the Eleusinian. Pythagorean, Orphic. Dionysian, and lsis/Osirian mysteries contributed to Christian philosophy and rituals.

    The word "mystery" was derived from "musterion" (secret rite), which evolved from the Greek word "muein", which meant "to keep your mouth shut" in the Greek mystery religions. Initiates were in fact so tight lipped that even today we don't know what occurred during the inner initiation of the Eleusinian Mysteries, which were celebrated annually in Athens and Eleusis long before the birth of Christ.

    We are likewise in the dark concerning some of the initiation rites of many other mystery religions, since they were only communicated verbally, and it was absolutely forbidden to ever write them down. Even today this is how secret societies keep their real intentions hidden. The "mystery" was the hook that captured the interest and insured the continued participation of initiates.

    [Note: The symbol of the rose also meant "keep your mouth shut" and it was also a symbol for resurrection, directly associated with the Ra/Ishtar/Thoth ET group. In Roman celebrations to the Goddess Cybele, her statue was pulled in a cart by lions while her votaries threw roses in the cart. Harpocrates (Horus, the son of Isis & Osiris) was given a rose by Aphrodite/Venus for keeping his mouth shut about her sexual affairs.

    The rose was a symbol of the Sumerian Goddess of War, Inanna (lshtar), over 5,000 years ago. Today the "Order of the Rose" is headed by such stellar names as George Bush (The Rose) and Bill Clinton and is one of the pivotal secret societies for the New World Order, engaged in drug smuggling, money laundering, sexual perversions, murder and CIA mind control projects. I mention this because it appears that the Ra/Ishtar/Thoth ET group is alive and well today (since the Eye of Ra is a time travel ship) and are secretly working behind the scenes to bring about another "New Order of the Ages".]

    The obvious question to ask here is if these mystery religions and secret societies offered truth and true enlightenment, then why should not everyone know it? Why should it be hidden? Why all the secrecy? And why should truth be only deserving of the "elect"? This oblique approach to truth should throw up a red flag for any discerning truth seeker who inherently knows that truth should be exoteric, not esoteric, in order for all mankind to evolve in a positive direction.

    Another common attribute to these mystery religions was the experience of rebirth, or personal resurrection. This was one of the primary goals of mystery religions and even modern secret societies--a personal transformation of consciousness.

    There are various ways to accomplish the "born again" experience, and the bottom line is that this type of initiation rite simply triggers past life psychological implants and, in particular, past life religious programming that were installed with drugs and/or psychotronics.

    There is nothing very profound about all this--I used to be a born again Christian, so this phenomenon is not unfamiliar to me--and the "born again" initiates usually become quite zealous about their own particular faith after having such an experience. Consequently, at this point they can be easily programmed. The Ra/Ishtar/Thoth ET group is very cognizant of this phenomenon, and they use it to the max to manipulate people.

    I discovered the key to understanding this phenomenon while researching past life extra-terrestrial contacts. I discovered that the Ra/Ishtar/Thoth Pleiadian group was directly responsible for creating all these conflicting religions and sinister secret societies. However, these manipulative ETs are very clever at presenting themselves as benevolent beings, and even today people are still being taken in by this illusion. The schism in Christianity between orthodox Christians and gnostic Christians exemplifies the kind of dualistic manipulation that characterizes the Ra/lshtar/Thoth ET group, whose purpose is to create dissension, not harmony.

    Ra is the Sun God that was worshipped around the globe for many thousands of years under many different names such as Zeus, Jehovah, Marduk, Ahura Mazda, Jupiter, Ashur, Yahweh, Thor, etc, ad nauseam. His symbol is the point within a circle (the same symbol as the illuminati). You can see this symbol from the air of the Washington Monument, which is an obelisk (a point when viewed from directly above it) inside a circle which is enclosed by the form of an eye. It makes me wonder if this is the origin of the expression "stick a needle in your eye".

    I knew Ra personally in one of my past lives as Ramesses II and I can guarantee that Ra was not a benevolent "God" (ET). As was correctly reported in the Old Testament, he was indeed a "jealous god" with a galactic-size ego. He demanded to be worshipped, commanded human and animal sacrifices and he and his cohorts have caused the needless suffering of untold millions of Earth humans. And on every Christmas, the day of the rebirth of the Sun God, we unwittingly honor this warlord of the heavens.

    As pharaoh of Egypt I was forced to kneel before the throne of Ra and carried out his commands to the letter. So many people suffered because I didn't stand up against this tyrant. Now, over three thousand years later, I have the opportunity--indeed the obligation--to expose the Sun God and eclipse his power. Yes, I do believe that the truth could indeed set us free.

    We now find ourselves trembling on the brink of a new millennium. Will the new one be just another replay of the old ones? Or will we decide to consult our own knowingness and memory and no longer rely on other entities as the source for truth? Will we allow history to repeat itself once again? Or will we consciously create a truly new paradigm shift?

    Perhaps it's finally time for us to take the helm and steer a new course into a new era of PEACE. Whatever the case may be, a new day is indeed dawning--let not the Sun God arise on this new horizon.

    References used for The Origin of Christmas:

    THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET; 1995; Truman Cash.

    THE EYE OF RA; 1996; Truman Cash.

    THE WOMAN'S ENCYCLOPEDIA OF MYTHS AND SECRETS; 1983; Barbara Walker.

    THE MESSIANIC LEGACY; 1986; Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln.

    THE AENEID OF VIRGIL; 1951; Rolfe Humphries.

    THE WARS OF GODS AND MEN; 1985; Zecharia Sitchin.

    THE MYTH OF THE GODDESS; 1991; Baring & Cashford.

    PRIMITIVE MYTHOLOGY; 1959; Joseph Campbell.

    ORIENTAL MYTHOLOGY; 1962; Joseph Campbell.

    OCCIDENTAL MYTHOLOGY; 1964; Joseph Campbell.

    THE JOY OF SECTS; 1994; Peter Occhiogrosso.

    THE RELIGION OF THE OCCIDENT; 1959; Martin Larson.

    MANUAL OF MYTHOLOGY; 1935; Alexander Murray.

    REINCARNATION: THE PHOENIX FIRE MYSTERY; 1977; Head & Cranston.

    REINCARNATION: A NEW HORIZON IN SCIENCE, RELIGION, AND SOCIETY; 1984; Cranston & Williams.

    A DICTIONARY OF WORLD MYTHOLOGY; 1979; Arthur
    Cotterell.

    THE WORLD OF MYTH; 1990; David Leeming.

    PERSIAN MYTHS; 1993; Vesta Curtis.

    EGYPTIAN MYTHS; 1990; George Hart.

    VIRGIL AND HIS MEANING TO THE WORLD OF TODAY; 1963; J.W. Mackail.

    THE CLINTON CHRONICLES; Larry Nichols.

    A NATION BETRAYED; Bo Gritz.

    THE TRANCE FORMATION OF AMERICA; 1995; Mark. Phillips & Cathy O' Brien.

    THE BIBLE, 1973 New International Version & King James Version.
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    Excellent stuff Truman

    Further recommended reading would be Lloyd M. Graham's work 'Deceptions and Myths of the Bible'. I have a 1979 edition but it may in fact be a 1975 original publication.

    Thank you.
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    Ha ha! Let's all shake our fist at the Bible

    Seems to me this + past lives = irony

    Quote Why should it be hidden? Why all the secrecy?
    I've considered this. What if it was MY secret? What if it was a dangerous secret? I'd probably keep it hidden too - because I believe in "privileged information". I feel like there's a clue with the F word too. Here's how the F word originated - you could be put to death for knowing "unlawful carnal knowledge"

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    I've always been partial to this take on Xmass:


    Quote Thousands of years ago, in the pre monarchic era, sacred plants and other entheogenic substances where politically correct and highly respected for their ability to bring forth the divine, Yahweh, God, The Great Spirit, etc., by the many cultures who used them. Often the entire tribe or community would partake in the entheogenic rites and rituals. These rites were often used in initiation into adulthood, for healing, to help guide the community in the decision process, and to bring the direct religious experience to anyone seeking it. In the pre literate world, the knowledge of psychedelic sacraments, as well as fertility rites and astronomical knowledge surrounding the sun, stars, and zodiac, known as astrotheology, were anthropomorphized into a character or a deity; consequently, their stories and practices could easily be passed down for generations. Weather changes over millenniums caused environmental changes that altered the available foods and plant sacraments available in the local vicinity. If a tribe lost its shamanic El-der (El - God), all of the tribe's knowledge of their plant sacraments as well as astronomical knowledge would be lost. The Church's inquisitions extracted this sacred knowledge from the local Shamans who were then exterminated...It is time to recognize the fact that this Pharmacratic Inquisition is still intact and destroy it.
    It's probably one of my more favorite youtube videos.


    Quote Posted by petra (here)
    I feel like there's a clue with the F word too. Here's how the F word originated - you could be put to death for knowing "unlawful carnal knowledge"
    That's definitely not true; urban dictionary is more of a joke site than a useful reference site.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**** *uhh.. replace the **** with the F word.. damn this aggressive language filter..
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    That's definitely not true; urban dictionary is more of a joke site than a useful reference site.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**** *uhh.. replace the **** with the F word.. damn this aggressive language filter..
    I'm sorry about urban dictionary, I looked up several and I ended up having to google 'for unlawful carnal knowledge'. This was the only one I consider to be the right origin. Are you saying no one was killed? Because that is what I was taught.

    EDIT: The wiki link is better, but urban dictionary is a good indicator of the general public's view. The disinformation is strong with this one....
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    IMAGES OF MITHRA





    Quote Mithras to the Romans, Mihr and Mithra in ancient Persia, Miiro in Kushan Bactria, this figure is not without allure. These names – similar yet distinct, that applied to figures with much in common, but equally a great deal to distinguish them – sparked the very simple question, what’s in a name?

    ‘Images of Mithra‘, published last week with Oxford University Press, is the first in a new series of works, ‘Visual Conversations’ that aims to tackle a variety of questions about the study of material culture and religion. Over the last two and half years, five members of the project have been presenting, writing, commenting, re-writing, and re-commenting on the book, in what has been a collaborative venture from start to finish. We first started to discuss this question of the significance of names in a perhaps unlikely forum, over lunch. Given that the figure has provoked his fair share of controversy, however, this relaxed environment was not without its merits.

    Mithra has the most incredible history – he is a god in the Sanskrit poetry of the Rig Veda, and a guarantor of oaths and contracts in Persia; elsewhere he is a special god of kings and emperors, but in the Roman world he appears to have been at the centre of Mystery cult. Can we understand all of these appearances in concert? Should we understand this figure as one god, and what are the implications if we do or don’t?

    The mystery and intrigue surrounding Mithra is far from a modern phenomenon, and indeed appears to have inspired some of the more fantastic notions that surround him. With many different guises, and appearances across thousands of miles and several millennia, the topic hardly wants for both academic and more popular attention – ‘Mushrooms, Myth & Mithras: The Drug Cult that Civilised Europe’ is a particular favourite, and did you know that Martin Luther King once wrote about Mithra, too? Drugs, blood, light, dark – Mithra is often made to have everything, inspiring scholars in the West in particular because of the tantalising similarities held to exist between nascent Christian worship and that of Mithras in the Roman empire. What binds many of these enquiries together, for better or worse, is the central question of the strength of connection from one appearance of Mithra to another.

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    Notice the symbols later adopted by Weishaupt's Illuminati: The torch of illumination, the Phrygian "Smurf" cap and the snake/serpent.



    Quote One of the most characteristic and poorly-understood features of the Mysteries is the naked lion-headed figure often found in Mithraic temples, named by the modern scholars with descriptive terms such as leontocephaline (lion-headed) or leontocephalus (lion-head).

    His body is a naked man’s, entwined by a serpent (or two serpents, like a caduceus), with the snake’s head often resting on the lion’s head. The lion’s mouth is often open, giving a horrifying impression. He is usually represented as having four wings, two keys (sometimes a single key), and a scepter in his hand. Sometimes the figure is standing on a globe inscribed with a diagonal cross. On the figure from the Ostia Antica mithraeum (left, CIMRM 312), the four wings carry the symbols of the four seasons, and a thunderbolt is engraved on his chest. At the base of the statue are the hammer and tongs of Vulcan and Mercury’s cock and wand (caduceus). A variation of the same figure, but with a human head instead of the lion-mask, is also found, but is rare.
    Notice the serpent caduceus--a symbol of Thoth, Hermes, Mercury, Quetzalcoatl, et al. One snake wrapped around a staff was the symbol of the Sun God of War Ra (aka, Amen or Amen-Ra), Huitzlilopochtli, et al. Lions and other predatory cats as well as predatory birds were also associated with Ra under various Anunnaki names around the planet.

    Also, notice the wings indicating human-looking ET "Gods" who flew.



    Notice the inscription on the sculpture indicating the Sun Invincible God.

    Also, notice the seven sun rays on the headdress (upper left) which was a symbol that Ra used as a headdress and is also a symbol of the Illuminati later used on the statue of "Liberty".

    I drew a rough sketch from memory of Ra sitting on his throne in his flying saucer with the seven ray crown and other "Rising Sun" symbols which can be seen on page 14 of the EYE OF RA PDF, link below. [BTW, if there are any artists out there that can do portraits that would be interested in painting Ra, please PM me.]

    I drew this sketch of Ra after receiving several non-hypnotic memory retrieval sessions and then four light trance hypnosis sessions on my life as Ramesses II. I am not a trained visual artist and I did not quite capture the fierceness coming from Ra in his piercing eyes. Instead, the picture seems to portray him as a friendly sort of chap, which I can assure you he was not. Therefore, I ask that this picture not be circulated until I have adjusted it to reflect his true demeanor. (I certainly don't want anyone to get the impression that Ra was a nice guy.) I have also not included the serpent staff in this picture, which should have been drawn immediately to the right of the throne (Ra's left).

    Ra was wearing a burgundy-colored robe with tan borders. I reconfirmed that the iris of his eyes was yellow/gold in color. The staff that was standing beside his throne had only one snake coiled around it. There were lions' heads on the ends of the arm rests of his throne. The design of the sun with sun rays were etched into the back of the golden throne.

    I got a much better look at his face and he had curly brown hair in his beard. I confirmed that the floor of his craft was a black and white checkerboard design. (I later discovered that Freemasons use this floor design as well.) I also reconfirmed that I was thirty-three years old when I was ordered to be initiated into the Brothers of the Snake in the Great Pyramid. I also discovered that there were twelve priests that circumambulated the sarcophagus during my initiation. Most importantly, I discovered that Ra was wearing a round, gold medallion around his neck. This gold medallion was etched with the design of the Rising Sun.
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    The Star in the East and Three Kings
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    Quote "Osiris's coming was announced by Three Wise Men: the three stars Mintaka, Anilam, and Alnitak in the belt of Orion, which point directly to Osiris's star in the east, Sirius (Sothis), significator of his birth."

    Barbara Walker, The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets (749)

    "So this was the harbinger of the annual inundation of the Nile through her appearance with the rising sun at the time when the inundation was due to begin. The bright star would therefore naturally become, together with the conjoined constellation of Orion, the sign and symbol of new vegetation which the Year then beginning would infallibly bring with it."

    Dr. John Gwyn Griffiths, The Origins of Osiris and His Cult (157)
    Also, you will notice when you look up in the night sky and trace a line through the three stars of the belt of Orion it points to the seven Pleiades stars. The Pleiades is often associated throughout history around the planet with the Anunnaki "gods". When I first researched and wrote my books in the mid-90s I was unaware of the term "Anunnaki" so I referred to them as the "Serpent Staff Pleiadians".

    At the time the Nile flooded and brought fertility to the Nile valley Sirius appeared in the east in the early morning heralding the "Rising Sun". The "wise men" followed the "star in the east" to the "Light of the world".

    At this time the general public celebrated the "outer mystery" of their fertility god "Osiris" wherein they ate crackers in his image and drank ale to symbolize drinking his blood. This was later appropriated by Christians in the "eucharist". In the hidden "inner mystery" the priests and initiates in the Great Pyramid actually cut the heart out of a sacrificed woman and drank her blood. Merry Christmas!
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    I dont have time right now to watch the whole thing, but 47mins -53mins covers the mushroom fly garrec, which is attributed to the modern christmas theme. ie. the red white colours of father christmas's dress. the flying raindeer that pull the slegde full of surprises thru the sky are a link to the real raindeer who love eating and tripping on the fly garrec. apparently if you wee while tripping on this shroom in scandinavia, nearby raindeer will run up to you and drink your wee.... also a save way of taking this mushroom is said to be drinking raindeer wee once they have eaten some.
    I havent tried this medicine yet, but its on my to do list... cant afford to die these days, got kids and stuff... happy xmas (whatever it is to you)

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    I've always been partial to this take on Xmass:


    Quote Thousands of years ago, in the pre monarchic era, sacred plants and other entheogenic substances where politically correct and highly respected for their ability to bring forth the divine, Yahweh, God, The Great Spirit, etc., by the many cultures who used them. Often the entire tribe or community would partake in the entheogenic rites and rituals. These rites were often used in initiation into adulthood, for healing, to help guide the community in the decision process, and to bring the direct religious experience to anyone seeking it. In the pre literate world, the knowledge of psychedelic sacraments, as well as fertility rites and astronomical knowledge surrounding the sun, stars, and zodiac, known as astrotheology, were anthropomorphized into a character or a deity; consequently, their stories and practices could easily be passed down for generations. Weather changes over millenniums caused environmental changes that altered the available foods and plant sacraments available in the local vicinity. If a tribe lost its shamanic El-der (El - God), all of the tribe's knowledge of their plant sacraments as well as astronomical knowledge would be lost. The Church's inquisitions extracted this sacred knowledge from the local Shamans who were then exterminated...It is time to recognize the fact that this Pharmacratic Inquisition is still intact and destroy it.
    It's probably one of my more favorite youtube videos.


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    I feel like there's a clue with the F word too. Here's how the F word originated - you could be put to death for knowing "unlawful carnal knowledge"
    That's definitely not true; urban dictionary is more of a joke site than a useful reference site.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**** *uhh.. replace the **** with the F word.. damn this aggressive language filter..

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    I'm not defending Christmas as having Christian origins, but as you likely already know, Justin Martyr accused the cult of Mithraism of copying Christian traditions. I suspect that Sunday was chosen by Christians as their day of worship to coincide with old traditions of Sun worship.

    Do Justin Martyr's beliefs and writings represent the truth? Probably no more correctly than any zealot's beliefs, but we still use his name as a symbol for those who give up their lives for a cause.

    Does anyone other than a few scholars of ancient religions know the names of anyone connected with Mithraism?

    Does having your name remembered through centuries equate to the accuracy of your beliefs? No it doesn't! Men such as Buddha, Mohamed and Jesus were profound thinkers of their day, but their beliefs and teachings have been greatly distorted by zealots through the ages.

    Religions serve some good. They do teach morals such as treating others as you wish to be treated. But, religious zealots often forget this and advocate killing all who do not share their beliefs.

    I was raised in Christian traditions with Christian beliefs. I still look forward to the Christmas season because it is a time of family gatherings. Good food and music. The origins of Christmas are not important to me, but the traditions that I've practiced since childhood are very important to me.

    Many of the beliefs that I was taught about Christianity are distortions, but so are my early beliefs about my country and it's leaders.

    Celebrating the Forth of July and Christmas helps me retain some stability in an insane world.

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    I'm not defending Christmas as having Christian origins, but ... (edited ) ....
    Celebrating the Forth of July and Christmas helps me retain some stability in an insane world.
    Many thanks for sharing this with us Latti ; your post is so well - balanced and
    ( I think ) quite wise... In the initial UK ' Education act ', was a requirment to start the school day with a prayer, or service. Leaving aside the ' rights & wrongs ', Merits, or otherwise, of " religion ", having something, to tie - in to the most fundamental need, the feeling of ' belonging to ', to be valued, for the ' Soul ' that we are, is (imho) , a very fundamental need within most of us...

    The ' Little Grandmother ' ( Keisha Crowther - http://littlegrandmother.net/ ), describes this very aptly !

    I have no opinion ( as yet ) whether there are ' other agenda's behind Keisha, but I place her on the same level as Santos Bonnacci, David Icke, and a handful of others, such as our beloved Jordan .....

    Whatever one's beliefs, enjoy these Family- centered periods !

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    There appears to be debate about the merits of some of these claims about Mithra, such as no virgin birth (he was born from stone), he wasn't visited by Magi, he wasn't crucified and didn't have twelve disciples. So that eliminates quite a few of the major similarities with Christianity. Also there is not much advocation for love and forgiveness in Mithra lore, and is the hallmark of Christ's teachings.

    http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mi...hras_and_Jesus

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    Ra is the Sun God that was worshipped around the globe for many thousands of years under many different names such as Zeus, Jehovah, Marduk, Ahura Mazda, Jupiter, Ashur, Yahweh, Thor, etc, ad nauseam. His symbol is the point within a circle (the same symbol as the illuminati). You can see this symbol from the air of the Washington Monument, which is an obelisk (a point when viewed from directly above it) inside a circle which is enclosed by the form of an eye. It makes me wonder if this is the origin of the expression "stick a needle in your eye".

    I knew Ra personally in one of my past lives as Ramesses II and I can guarantee that Ra was not a benevolent "God" (ET). As was correctly reported in the Old Testament, he was indeed a "jealous god" with a galactic-size ego. He demanded to be worshipped, commanded human and animal sacrifices and he and his cohorts have caused the needless suffering of untold millions of Earth humans. And on every Christmas, the day of the rebirth of the Sun God, we unwittingly honor this warlord of the heavens.

    As pharaoh of Egypt I was forced to kneel before the throne of Ra and carried out his commands to the letter. So many people suffered because I didn't stand up against this tyrant. Now, over three thousand years later, I have the opportunity--indeed the obligation--to expose the Sun God and eclipse his power. Yes, I do believe that the truth could indeed set us free.
    we-R-one states in the thread "Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?" post #389 that POTUS Trump is "likely" a soul aspect of Zeus.

    Link: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1196758

    Considering your position on Ra /Zeus then what is your take on Trump if he is a reincarnation of a soul aspect of Ra/Zeus?

    I am basically looking for your point of view of the man Trump in this incarnation in light of this claim by we-r-one. But not the politics of the man.

    I am having a hard time reconciling your position on Ra/Zeus because I am seeing Zeus/Trump, although human and faulted like the rest of us, as a leader trying to expose evils and evil people and completely eradicate the same from humanity.

    I ask because I am trying to get a better insight of the man Trump based on his soul history.

    Thank you for your thoughts and time.
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    This thread is about the Origin of Christmas.

    Also, please do not confuse my verifiable past life research with abductees with channeling or other unsupportable ideas. I have revealed that the information from channeling is unreliable in THE EYE OF RA. I have fully covered my abduction research as well as my own experiences in the "Matrix Revealed" thread and in my two books THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET and THE EYE OF RA (links below) for those who are interested in knowing more about my research.

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    IMAGES OF MITHRA





    Quote Mithras to the Romans, Mihr and Mithra in ancient Persia, Miiro in Kushan Bactria, this figure is not without allure. These names – similar yet distinct, that applied to figures with much in common, but equally a great deal to distinguish them – sparked the very simple question, what’s in a name?

    ‘Images of Mithra‘, published last week with Oxford University Press, is the first in a new series of works, ‘Visual Conversations’ that aims to tackle a variety of questions about the study of material culture and religion. Over the last two and half years, five members of the project have been presenting, writing, commenting, re-writing, and re-commenting on the book, in what has been a collaborative venture from start to finish. We first started to discuss this question of the significance of names in a perhaps unlikely forum, over lunch. Given that the figure has provoked his fair share of controversy, however, this relaxed environment was not without its merits.

    Mithra has the most incredible history – he is a god in the Sanskrit poetry of the Rig Veda, and a guarantor of oaths and contracts in Persia; elsewhere he is a special god of kings and emperors, but in the Roman world he appears to have been at the centre of Mystery cult. Can we understand all of these appearances in concert? Should we understand this figure as one god, and what are the implications if we do or don’t?

    The mystery and intrigue surrounding Mithra is far from a modern phenomenon, and indeed appears to have inspired some of the more fantastic notions that surround him. With many different guises, and appearances across thousands of miles and several millennia, the topic hardly wants for both academic and more popular attention – ‘Mushrooms, Myth & Mithras: The Drug Cult that Civilised Europe’ is a particular favourite, and did you know that Martin Luther King once wrote about Mithra, too? Drugs, blood, light, dark – Mithra is often made to have everything, inspiring scholars in the West in particular because of the tantalising similarities held to exist between nascent Christian worship and that of Mithras in the Roman empire. What binds many of these enquiries together, for better or worse, is the central question of the strength of connection from one appearance of Mithra to another.
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    SANTA CLAUS

    Another example of the occultic symbolism of Christmas is expressed via the modern version of Santa Claus. The colors of his suit and beard are two symbolic colors of secret societies--red and white--and sometimes in association with a cross as in this thirteenth century painting of Saint Nicholas. The cross is a common symbol of the Anunnaki.



    Originally, these colors represented the Mantis white light programming and the red blood-letting rituals of the ET Conspirators (ETCs--i.e., Mantis, Grays, Anunnaki, Reptilians) in the Great Pyramid.

    Allegedly, one of the Anunnaki under the name of "Horus" (aka Ra) united lower Egypt with upper Egypt. The crown of lower Egypt was red and the crown of upper Egypt was white. So "Horus" allegedly combined the two colors together.

    Hassan-e Sabbāh, the founder of the secret society Hashshashin (aka "Assassins" or "Fedayin", "The Martyrs", or "Men Who Accept Death") studied in Cairo apparently around 1078 AD. I would not be surprised if he had been initiated in the Great Pyramid with their blood-letting satanic ritual as I have experienced.

    Hassan-e Sabbāh later used the red and white colors for his conspiratorial secret society, which greatly resembled the same "Order of the Scimitar" secret society with which the Anunnaki programmed "Jack Wylie" in the 1600s (read "Akarat's Abduction" in THE EYE OF RA for details).

    The Knights Templar, who became the world's first international bankers, adopted the red/white colors from the Hashshashin. The Templar symbol was a red cross--the cross is a symbol of the Anunnaki--on a white background.

    The "neutral" country of Switzerland, the global base for international banking uses a white cross on a red background for its flag.

    CIA uses a red cross on a white background.

    The Knights of Malta also used the red and white colors in conjunction with a cross.

    The Nazis also used red and white with the swastika cross.

    One can find numerous examples of this including the British flag with red/white double-cross as well as the Masonic flag of the US with red/white stripes.
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    I for one would refuse to deceive a child about an imaginary being (Santa). I see parents deceptively talking to their kids about Santa and feel it's downright wrong.

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    My parents didn't deceive me about Santa. They let me know about the 3 wise men bearing gifts which is truth and reality. I also taught my children that Santa was not real, but that I believed that Santa to be a metaphor for the 3 wise men. My children were fine. But......a lady got wind that my children did not believe in Santa....my children were in kindergarten and first grade at that time....the lady was livid and even made a threat to me. She actually said that she needs her son to believe in Santa Claus so that he will believe in God. This neighbor was a bit nuts, as were some others. One neighbor came to my door in early December, when my daughter was in kindergarten. This neighbor said that my daughter had informed her that we did not have a Christmas tree. I said, "Right, I usually don't have a Christmas tree, as it has been used by several pagan religions, and that I wanted my children to be able to differentiate biblical Christmas, from pagan symbols introduced. So that my children would learn critical thinking.....The lady said as she puffed and spoke with ruffled feathers that I was not a Christian, nor celebrating Christmas if I did not include a Christmas tree, and that I was a neglectful parent depriving my children. People can be so weird. Everything I told her went over her head. Weird. My children had a lovely Christmas and knew we were celebrating Yeshuah's birth....they got presents which I told them the significance of to the 3 wise men.

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    IMAGES OF MITHRA





    Quote Mithras to the Romans, Mihr and Mithra in ancient Persia, Miiro in Kushan Bactria, this figure is not without allure. These names – similar yet distinct, that applied to figures with much in common, but equally a great deal to distinguish them – sparked the very simple question, what’s in a name?

    ‘Images of Mithra‘, published last week with Oxford University Press, is the first in a new series of works, ‘Visual Conversations’ that aims to tackle a variety of questions about the study of material culture and religion. Over the last two and half years, five members of the project have been presenting, writing, commenting, re-writing, and re-commenting on the book, in what has been a collaborative venture from start to finish. We first started to discuss this question of the significance of names in a perhaps unlikely forum, over lunch. Given that the figure has provoked his fair share of controversy, however, this relaxed environment was not without its merits.

    Mithra has the most incredible history – he is a god in the Sanskrit poetry of the Rig Veda, and a guarantor of oaths and contracts in Persia; elsewhere he is a special god of kings and emperors, but in the Roman world he appears to have been at the centre of Mystery cult. Can we understand all of these appearances in concert? Should we understand this figure as one god, and what are the implications if we do or don’t?

    The mystery and intrigue surrounding Mithra is far from a modern phenomenon, and indeed appears to have inspired some of the more fantastic notions that surround him. With many different guises, and appearances across thousands of miles and several millennia, the topic hardly wants for both academic and more popular attention – ‘Mushrooms, Myth & Mithras: The Drug Cult that Civilised Europe’ is a particular favourite, and did you know that Martin Luther King once wrote about Mithra, too? Drugs, blood, light, dark – Mithra is often made to have everything, inspiring scholars in the West in particular because of the tantalising similarities held to exist between nascent Christian worship and that of Mithras in the Roman empire. What binds many of these enquiries together, for better or worse, is the central question of the strength of connection from one appearance of Mithra to another.
    Thanks for posting this video, Star Tsar. I found it interesting how the cognitive dissonance of the Christian apologist tried to invalidate Mithraism in portraying it as a cult that began after the so-called Jesus story. That of course is simply not true as it existed long before that and its roots went back to about 2000 BC in India as was pointed out at the beginning of the video.

    This phenomenon of cognitive dissonance is prominent in Christians not accepting that the eucharist was practiced long before Christianity in Egypt where the general public ate the cracker representing the body of Osiris and drank ale representing his blood. The Eucharist is often practiced at or around Christmas time in churches all over the world.

    I first saw this cognitive dissonance phenomenon in my high school math teacher who actually believed that the Earth was only 6000 years old and that "God" had placed dinosaur bones here to test Christians' faith. This of course is a major problem of all religions wherein beliefs are superior to facts and there is usually punishment for not believing and reward for accepting the religious programming regardless of how ridiculous it may seem.

    Beliefs are merely programmed mind control that people voluntarily accept as facts. Christians seem to forget one of the main tenets of the "New Testament" is to seek truth that can set people free but instead they bind their thinking and behavior with the programmed mind control of the Anunnaki who masqueraded as "Gods". All the programmed symbolism of the Anunnaki is contained in the "New Testament"--serpents, satan, savior, light, darkness, heaven, hell, astrological references, eucharist, sacrifice, cross, etc.-- and it is most definitely based upon the Sun God belief system which also included the stars and planets in "heaven".

    This how the Anunnaki operates--They create a "satan" (see Egyptian god Set or Sata) which symbolizes the death of the sun at the end of the day as well as Satanic sacrifice rituals; and they create the "savior" aspect associated with the "Rising Sun" and "enlightenment" and "illumination". In Mithraism this is represented by the two torches--One points upward while the other is pointing downward. So the Sun God/Son of God is the "Light of the World" who wins the battle over "Satan" (Sun Setting followed by darkness) which is heralded (in the morning) by Sirius, the "Star in the East". He has twelve disciples representing the twelve astrological signs and so forth. And let's not forget the Osirian eucharist. And all this symbolism was programmed into Egyptian society long before the advent of Christianity.
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