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    Default John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    I thought to post this as a separate thread.

    In his latest interview of John Lear being interviewed by Kerry Cassidy John alleges that 3 billion people live since hundred of thousand of years on the moon and a guy called Bruce Swartz over at https://bruceseesall.com/ with his 13 inch telescope was able to penetrate the holographic veil and exposes those industrial complexes and what-not on the moon.

    Here is the part:
    https://www.youtube.com/embed/8WT4u_...=2330&end=2460

    I am wondering why no other amateur astronomer has come up with this.
    What makes his telescope so special to penetrate that hologram.
    This Bruce makes many claims and talks with too many generalities and this is a red flag to me.

    Are both full of it and is this just part of the "modern fake news era"?

    I am taking this with a grain of salt until we get some HD pics.
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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    Wow. very interesting, thanks for sharing. I have heard various stories about both people and extraterrestrials existing on the Moon /having bases on the Moon in some form. I think I remember listening to lectures from Hoagland talk about various pods etc. hitting structures on the Moon as they descended (hitting something before they hit the ground, something like a forcefield - which could also of course serve as a sort of cloaking device). I have read from various sources about the hidden conversations the Apollo team had with NASA about finding extraterrestrials on the Moon - conversation picked up by hundreds of independent ham radio operators in the US (good site as source: http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/astro2.html) - the weirdest conversations are towards the bottom of the linked site.

    But a whole civilization? That's news to me. I wouldn't discard it as impossible, but extraordinary claims require at least some evidence to back it up.
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    Quote Posted by devplan (here)
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    I am wondering why no other amateur astronomer has come up with this.
    What makes his telescope so special to penetrate that hologram.
    This Bruce makes many claims and talks with too many generalities and this is a red flag to me.

    Are both full of it and is this just part of the "modern fake news era"?

    I am taking this with a grain of salt until we get some HD pics.
    I have an SCT 11" scope and 2 to 4 power "barlow lens" (2 to 4 power magnifiers).
    That gives me a focal length up to 11.2 meters which is quite the magnification for an amateur scope.
    I have many friends within our local astronomy club with 14" or higher scopes.
    We have 14" SCTs and 5" refractors at the local observatory.
    We have not seen evidence of the claims in the original post.
    Not saying it is not true, just don't understand what makes his scope so "special".


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    But a whole civilization? That's news to me. I wouldn't discard it as impossible, but extraordinary claims require at least some evidence to back it up.
    Agreed.
    You can take a decent picture through a cell phone attached to a scope these days.
    Wouldn't take much effort to capture what he is claiming he sees...

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    First it was everything was on the backside, that changed to everything frontside was underground, now it's a hologram.
    Just an observation of this particular new age psyop subject as instructions to the players are updated.

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    Hi,
    There's a good possibility ie evidence of structures but people? The title evokes a chuckle...3 billion people getting along? It's not possible, just look at our home that would be abnormal without us fighting each other or leaking the news...

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    I heard this concept on Kerry Cassidy's latest interview with him; don't know what to make of it-

    although I think most of what Lear states maybe the truth I have some "leary" reservations on Lear-

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    Quote I am taking this with a grain of salt until we get some HD pics.
    John has been saying this for a long time and others say the Moon is artificial
    with a civilisation inside. I am open to all possibilities whether in this dimension
    or another that there are possible bases on the moon both ours and/or
    ET's , and maybe artifacts left up there. Its all interesting speculation at this
    point even with all the vids and whistleblowers I cannot say whether they are
    actually telling the truth or not even though some of it feels right like the SSP etc...


    On a lighter note I watched Blade runner 2049 and there was a lot of
    holographic technology portrayed in that including Elvis and Frank Sinatra and
    a bevvy of goodtime girls.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfU7mPw2VHs

    =============================================

    On the other hand there are other theories....


    The universe could be a 'vast and complex hologram', scientists say

    Researchers investigating the Big Bang's "afterglow" say evidence of a holographic
    universe matches other theories in strength.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...scientists-say
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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    See John Lenard Walson, please search avalon site for moon videos, something is definitely there in many places, these videos are current.
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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    Come on, folks. Logic.

    3 billion people (or beings) means enough to feed 3 billion on every day. That means agriculture (or, just maybe, super-giant factories). They need WATER (and so do the 3 billion 'people'). It also means extensive and sophisticated distribution systems and infrastructure.

    And that's just the start of it.

    There may be a very good reason why other amateur astronomers have all failed to see any of this.

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    John Lear gets his millions and billions criss crossed sometimes! Maybe he means 3 million or 300,000! He still has a fantastic memory for his age! Especially about planes and jets! Some things he says may be true! I would not disregard everything myself!

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    If they had that technology why wouldn't they just hide the moon all together?
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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    Another recent interview with Mr Lear...

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    John Lear | Area 51 Revisited / Living Moon

    Published 28th November 2017

    Host Michael Vara is joined by John Lear as they discuss everything from Area 51 to the Moon.

    Interview starts around 30 minute mark.

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    John has claimed that Venus was a paradise and that a psy op had covered it up. He seems to be an 80/20 guy, truth/bs. He was Bob Lazar's friend. He correctly said the reported speed of the planes in 9/11 were too fast. However, much of his claims are unprovable, like this one and his Venus claim. He has the hallmarks of a disinformation troll. So, we just have to leave it at that.

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    Sounds like John didn't get that Air Conditioning system that he was asking Santa Claus for. Just a little bit, uh,... overheated, perhaps?

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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    I know what you mean about Mr Lear. My intuition tells me he is a colourful personality, there is probably a grain or two of truth in his wildest assertions, but I have seen precious little concrete proof.
    The fact John once few for the CIA is often cited as being a source of his credibility. You have to make up your own mind regarding John Lear.

    If you are interested in Moon telescope footage there is an English chap who has developed his own methods for gaining very close focus, he has picked up some weird looking craft and satellite vehicles, some of which are definitely 'Black Operations' and some, well you will have to decide for yourself. John Lenard Walson is his name. The Moon footage is particularly intriguing, you can see structures and buildings, you really can.
    There is something mysterious about the Moon, it has very convenient astronomical characteristics, and is of a critical size-natural ratios? I don't know. anyway that Youtube channel is worthwhile.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Come on, folks. Logic.

    3 billion people (or beings) means enough to feed 3 billion on every day. That means agriculture (or, just maybe, super-giant factories). They need WATER (and so do the 3 billion 'people'). It also means extensive and sophisticated distribution systems and infrastructure.

    And that's just the start of it.

    There may be a very good reason why other amateur astronomers have all failed to see any of this.

    There are areas here in the USA where such a population wouldn't have been thinkable a few hundred years ago.
    New York City's population wouldn't have been possible in the 1700's but modern means of food production and moving food have changed that.
    Spaceships and portal technology go a long way towards moving food.

    And as for the amateur astronomer I would present Crrow777. You may not care for his logic, but his interpretation of the data is not necessary to appreciate when regarding the data itself. His findings are what they are irrelevant and separate from his interpretations of them.
    Kodak invented the technology to make copy machines back in the 60's and sold it for nothing because they did not see the value in it, enter Xerox.

    The Lunar Wave is an anomaly first recorded by Crrow777, this anomaly seems to show a hologram which covers the moon. This hologram occasionally resets and the result is this lunar wave.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK5Nq08r1g
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Come on, folks. Logic.

    3 billion people (or beings) means enough to feed 3 billion on every day. That means agriculture (or, just maybe, super-giant factories). They need WATER (and so do the 3 billion 'people'). It also means extensive and sophisticated distribution systems and infrastructure.

    And that's just the start of it.

    There may be a very good reason why other amateur astronomers have all failed to see any of this.

    There are areas here in the USA where such a population wouldn't have been thinkable a few hundred years ago.
    New York City's population wouldn't have been possible in the 1700's but modern means of food production and moving food have changed that.
    Spaceships and portal technology go a long way towards moving food.

    And as for the amateur astronomer I would present Crrow777. You may not care for his logic, but his interpretation of the data is not necessary to appreciate when regarding the data itself. His findings are what they are irrelevant and separate from his interpretations of them.
    Kodak invented the technology to make copy machines back in the 60's and sold it for nothing because they did not see the value in it, enter Xerox.

    The Lunar Wave is an anomaly first recorded by Crrow777, this anomaly seems to show a hologram which covers the moon. This hologram occasionally resets and the result is this lunar wave.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK5Nq08r1g
    Yes the Lunar wave recorded is either a fake or a holographic projection. With everything we know it would make sense to project a false image for the people of earth to look at it. Witness testimony tells us there are people living / working on the moon. It doesn´t matter if it is 3 or 3 million or 3 billion people. The ramifications for earth would be similar I would be interested if anyone has come across testimony to support such a hologram functioning on the moon.

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    ...And as for the amateur astronomer I would present Crrow777. You may not care for his logic, but his interpretation of the data is not necessary to appreciate when regarding the data itself. His findings are what they are irrelevant and separate from his interpretations of them.
    I saw his videos maybe 2,3 years ago?
    His equipment is very crude.
    He jumps to conclusions, IMO.
    He even admits he is guessing "it is a hologram".
    Very strange that 100's of thousands of amateur astronomers with high end equipment cannot see what Crrow777 sees, isn't it?
    Personally, I think he has issues with his camera and video card and is seeing some kind of frame-rate anomaly.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    There may be a very good reason why other amateur astronomers have all failed to see any of this.
    Yes... a very good reason... haha

    Occam's razor wins again!

    Anyone remember when we slammed a probe into the moon at 3,600 mph? How about the one we hit the moon with at 5,600mph?

    The moon didn't seem like it was covered by a hologram then.

    In fact, we've crashed a LOT of stuff into our moon at very high speeds..
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    Default Re: John Lear alleges a holographic veil hides a civilization of 3 billion people on the moon

    It is possible, in this humanly disappointing reality, that the moon is protected by a holographic weapon that lets us see nothing but a lie, as this moon is perhaps hollow, maybe even the man who put down there was help, allowed.
    So there is so much history on the moon that it seems to me no worse than another.
    In this world of disappointment, there may be insectoid beings or even plant humanoids living up there. We obviously do not have the right to know.

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