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    10 Year Vegan Eats Nothing But Beef For 30 Days: Amazing Carnivore Diet Before And After Story

    * I googled Kasey, Vegetable Police, to double check how to spell his name, i.e. Kasey or Casey. To my surprise, a Project Avalon thread came up.
    “I got a colonoscopy. I saw it with my own eyes. What I was watching was terrifying. I could see my colon. Oh my god! That’s terrible looking like it was all red. I could see the sores everywhere and white mucus everywhere. I was like oh my god I'm dying. What is that?

    And so I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. Pan colitis, the whole colon. So I was like, okay we got it. We know what it is. What do I eat?

    The doctors explained it’s not diet and that he’ll be on medication for the rest of his life. Kasey wasn’t having it and has been on a healing journey.

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    10 Year Vegan Eats Nothing But Beef For 30 Days to heal his gut. I had ulcerative colitis and managed to cure it on a fruit based vegan diet. But my colon never fully healed, and I was suffering from constipation, bloating and pain. I tried every vegan diet imaginable with no relief in symptoms. I watched an interview with Mikhaila Peterson (added below) who healed herself eating nothing but beef. I was sick of the mediocre results on a vegan diet so I decided to try the carnivore diet. This is my before and after story. Will I go vegan again? Or stay on the beef cleanse? I'm getting amazing results, but I'm worried about my long term health. From vegan to carnivore. Can humans be carnivores?!

    Thank you all for the amazing support over the last few days, it's keeping me going. This is not an easy switch for me emotionally. I felt much better promoting a vegan diet, but I just wasn't getting the results I should after 10 years, and it was getting impossible to narrow down my food sensitivities. I was losing faith that veganism was even healthy. I am talking with Gojiman and considering getting those tests done, but I will have to add some plants back slowly to experience those same symptoms for the tests to show anything, and that makes me a little nervous.

    So for now, it's nice to be relieved of the symptoms, so I'll give it a little while longer. I want to clear something up though. I'm getting a lot of unnecessary and misplaced hate from vegans about all this. They are blindly assuming that I'm contributing to animal suffering and torture which I'm not. They don't seem to understand that I'm not contributing to factory farming. I'm buying grass fed beef from cows who live good lives out in the field just like they would in nature. There is literally no difference between a wild cow's life and a free range one except the farmed ones are protected from predators, and their death is quicker and less painful. Imagine getting eaten alive by wolves or starving to death in the wild. If you open the fence and let the cows go, they won't even leave lol. They are happy, and they will eventually die anyways in much crueler ways. If I need meat temporarily to get healthy, this is the most ethical way to do it. One cow could feed me for a year likely. That's one life. A cow who lived a good life and was put down in a way no worse than he would have died in nature. Compare that to someone eating grains for a year who will have contributed to many more animal deaths than I have.

    So lets be real here, the living conditions of animals are the biggest problem with animal agriculture. Factory farming is despicable and I don't support it. And grass fed cows are not bad for the environment. Mono crops of wheat, corn and soy are much worse for the soil. You think migrating herds of buffalo are destroying the world by eat it's grass? It's how nature was meant to be, they renew the soil with their wonderful poo, so do some research before you bring outdated and incorrect cowspiracy type arguments that aren't actually true. And it's not like the whole world needs to eat beef. There can be plenty of healthy vegans and omnivores being fed sustainable here without factory farming.



    Interview with Mikhaila Peterson: The Life Saving Diet

    I just watched this vegetable police video on youtube and I remembered Mike's thread so I came here to post it and I see it has already been posted by yourself.

    Quite a turn around.

    Here are two more videos made regarding this since then.

    It's just more PRO for eating meat and the only complaint is he can't go back to being a vegan.





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    Default Re: The Vegetable Police

    He (Casey) went to live in Thailand to have access to all the organic fruits and veggies he didn't have access to in Canada, and, ironically, became a meat eater in the process. Now he's back in Canada, from what I understand (yep, he is..just watched the 2nd video Marcus posted)

    He did do an all juice cleanse to heal his appendix, if I recall correctly...but other than that he's been eating mostly meat, and getting pretty good results.

    Having watched him struggle over the years with his health, particularly his gut, I always wondered why he didn't use a juicer; it was always the heavy fiber from the veggies that gave him fits.

    And also, why not eat meat *and* vegetables??? LOL. Food has become something of a religion these days, and diets dogmatic. It's always either this or that, exclusively...as if there is some kind of rule against doing both. The warring factions are the vegans/vegetarians vs the keto/caveman. Why? I love steak and broccolli, or steak and asparagus. It's great!

    There is compelling evidence for the effectiveness of both diets, and it all comes down to what works for the individual. It's not a one size fits all sort of thing. But it strikes me as odd that we'd feel compelled to declare allegiance to one or the other exclusively, without trying a combination of the 2.

    As I mentioned earlier, I did invite Casey to the forum but never heard back. Maybe I'll try again..
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    Default Re: The Vegetable Police

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quite a turn around.

    Here are two more videos made regarding this since then.

    It's just more PRO for eating meat and the only complaint is he can't go back to being a vegan.
    I follow Casey for entertainment. He’s a likable guy. In today’s video (added below) what he says about meat contradicts what he posted several months ago about his energy. Casey stated right off in older video:
    “So I've been on this carnivore diet for five months now and honestly my health has never been better. I feel phenomenal. Mental clarity out the yin-yang. Energy. Flat stomach…”
    Today’s video @ 2:39:
    “I was getting strict there in Thailand on the raw meat. I wasn't enjoying myself. I wasn’t even feeling good it's like I was getting no energy from the meat. I think it's just so much harder to digest raw meat that I wasn't liberating any energy from it and getting gassy. I'm just like I'm not even feeling good…
    To be fair, Casey says cooking the meat is better than eating it raw or eating 'high meat'. (rotting meat) Kudos to him for experimenting for himself.

    Why You Should Cheat On Your Lame Diet (Often)

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    Whether you're on the carnivore diet, keto or high carb vegan, cheating is what humans do best. If you are too strict with your diet, you can actually suffer health consequences, which is the opposite if what you're going for.
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    Not directly related to Casey per sé but relevant to the carnivore diet in general. Jordan Peterson's wife was hospitalized recently, apparently with liver failure. By her daughter's admission (in January 2019), she'd been following the carnie' diet for almost a year. Here's à-bas-le-ciel's five cents:

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    Default Re: The Vegetable Police

    Particle transcript from Jordan Peterson:
    Hello everyone. Last Friday, April 26th my family received news that emergency surgical intervention, the second in a two-month period, was necessary for my wife, Tammy.

    We and many other family members and friends have spent the last week conferring with specialists in multiple hospitals, in multiple cities confirming the diagnosis and specifying the proper course of action.

    There are still test results pending, but the procedure is currently and suddenly scheduled for May 9th, thus it is impossible for me to maintain my obligations regarding my scheduled …

    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Not directly related to Casey per sé but relevant to the carnivore diet in general. Jordan Peterson's wife was hospitalized recently, apparently with liver failure. By her daughter's admission (in January 2019), she'd been following the carnie' diet for almost a year. Here's à-bas-le-ciel's five cents:


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