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    Hi fellow members, I,ve just been diagnosed with prostate cáncer, it seems pretty advanced- gleason 5+4 on both sides, i,m having further tests done to see if its gone elsewhere. I was wondering if anyone here has ideas on alternate treatments...
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    Good Morning Matisse,

    I'm a cancer patient too. While a different kind of cancer I have the members here have recommended several alternatives and even some that compliment current medical procedures.

    Here is the thread with several different options you might decide to look into. I know I have.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-My-Heart-Path

    Hang in there. I'm on my second chemo yesterday while also on some alternative diet and supplements. There are several others which I'm looking into and trying to gain some access to.

    Best of luck with whatever you decide to do. If I can work toward management so can you.

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    Greetings.

    Issues for investigation:

    If it has not spread you are in a good position.

    To have confidence that metastasis will not occur, I suggest investigating NAC + Bitter apricot kernels.

    Google anti-angiogenesis supplements.

    If you shrink it, the op will have less trauma for you.

    My grumbling Prostate responds to:

    Green tea extract
    Selenium
    Zinc
    Mangosteen
    ESSIAC
    Pomegranate extract
    Curcumin
    Tomato puree
    Bicarb
    Raspberries
    D3/K2 or NATTO

    My smoothie includes the holy trinity of carrot,celery,apple (according to Charlotte Gerson they work together). My theory is that these three have strong anti fungal agents IN THEIR SKINS.A dribble of turps occasionally would probably reduce any fungus on the veg .

    Easy oxygenation- a brisk walk.

    Why not weaponise the brisk walk by enhancing flow of oxygen?

    - Flax oil/low fat dairy.(Flax oil in huge bottles for horses is cheap)
    - organic sulphur
    - Arginine.

    Manage blood sugar, avoid simple carbs. Avoid bad or damaged fats.
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    Thank you all for your answers and suggestions...i,m going to fight this...

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    Thank you Shadowself....i wish you all the best and good luck with everything....

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    My friend was just telling me about this yesterday...curing cancer with baking soda. We were talking about my dad. She said put it [baking soda] in everything. Orange juice, coffee, etc.

    Here is a video about curing stage 4 cancer:



    Here is one from an oncologist from Rome, Italy:


    Cancer, schmancer! You'll be better in no time!

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    Dear Matisse,

    In my experience as a pharmacist the best supplements for prostate cancer are lycopene, saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil and pygeum africanum extract (by this order). But these give the best results as preventive measures and in early stages. If you decide to have chemo/radiotherapy or laser therapy (which gives good results by the way), there are different supplements you can use to minimize side effects as; squalene, selenium & pine bark extract.

    But most important thing is; stay positive!

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    This guy cured prostate cancer, specifically, with his baking soda & molasses protocol. See his website at: www.phkillscancer.com

    And another guy...



    You've already won. You made the decision!
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    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    My friend was just telling me about this yesterday...curing cancer with baking soda. We were talking about my dad. She said put it [baking soda] in everything. Orange juice, coffee, etc.

    Here is a video about curing stage 4 cancer:



    Here is one from an oncologist from Rome, Italy:


    Cancer, schmancer! You'll be better in no time!

    MM
    I heard about this treatment before but not paid realy much attention to it, and with the amount of industrialized carbs we ingest is no wonder we get infested with candida and in the end with very compromised health. The prevention and treatment seem so simple that it's incredible, no harm trying this. Matisse, sending my best to you, and hope you try the soudium bicarbonate and get great results real soon.

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    Hello Matisse. I don't have any personal experience of this, but my research indicates that cannabis oil can be effective to cure prostate cancer. Hopefully you can obtain it in your location, if you decide to try it. I think you can try it in addition to the other therapies that people have mentioned but ideally you should find someone in person who has experience of these matters to advise you.

    https://www.cureyourowncancer.org/de...nabis-oil.html
    https://www.cureyourowncancer.org/pr...timonials.html
    https://herb.co/marijuana/news/prostate-cancer-cannabis
    http://www.phoenixtearsfoundation.co...-cannabis-oil/

    Good luck and please let us know how you get on. Hope you can beat this and get well soon!

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    Matisse and Shadowself, I'm projecting as much love as I can in your directions. There are some excellent suggestions posted here and in my very humble opinion, I instinctively feeling that the Bicarbonate of Soda/Molasses treatment may be a powerful 'weapon.' This sounds gross, but I had a stubborn case of toenail fungus a couple of years ago and so with a toothbrush I painted on a mixture of baking soda and molasses and much to my surprise my toe nail died off!!! So it makes me wonder how this stands up for more serious conditions. xxxxxx

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    Hello.
    I've studied alternative options for cancer for years.
    People will recommend radiation and chemo, look up the statistics about the increased risk of the cancer coming back after using those options! Its a model that continues to create profits. So it will be taught as the best choice and your doctor will parrot what they were taught.

    Follow this group and read the success stories.
    https://facebook.com/groups/41670292...content_filter

    http://www.cannabisoilsuccessstories.com/portfolio.html

    Disease like cancer can't exist in an alkaline oxygen rich environment. Keeping your Ph alkaline is key. Dr. Sebi has diet suggestions for this and so do many others.

    If you're thinking you have candida, look into turpentine. There's a thread here on it.

    The medical cannabis you're wanting is called FECO (Full Extract Cannabis Oil). Which means it's oil made from the whole cannabis plant, and is best to use multiple strains, and to use a mix of strains high in THC and strains high in CBD.
    Note: You would take this oil orally or as a suppository.

    THC causes apotosis. Which basically means it programs the cancer cell to kill itself.
    CBD prevents cancer cells from being able to spread to other parts of the body.

    Dr. Cristina Sanchez has a number of vidoes on YouTube showing the research results of cannabis for cancer treatment.



    Cannabis is also an antioxidant and neuroprotectant.
    https://www.google.com/patents/US6630507
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    I'm in no position to confirm that the 'chemo kills you' statement in the title of this video is absolutely true - I'm not trained to confirm that!!! Personally, I would not want it myself but I would never tell anyone else not to as I feel its a personal decision.
    Anyway, I'm a big fan of Richie Allen and I remembered this interview he did with Dr. Tullio Simoncini. I'm taking that its a given that this interview and this man have cropped up on Avalon before but for convenience I'll quickly post it here - he talks about bicarbonate of soda

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    Hi everyone, thanks for all the support and input...
    To give you an update i have started a strict diet to alkanize my body also with sodium bicarbonate, plus apple cider vinager and tumeric with green tea, I,m looking into other suplements and i think i will order the mushrooms Shadowself was speaking of, and i,m very interested in the canabis oil, im just not sure if its available here and if i can afford it.
    blessings to you all

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    Quote Posted by Matisse (here)
    Hi everyone, thanks for all the support and input...
    To give you an update i have started a strict diet to alkanize my body also with sodium bicarbonate, plus apple cider vinager and tumeric with green tea, I,m looking into other suplements and i think i will order the mushrooms Shadowself was speaking of, and i,m very interested in the canabis oil, im just not sure if its available here and if i can afford it.
    blessings to you all
    That's pretty much what I'm doing now. The Cannabis oil is not legal here yet and there may be a problem with that for me. I have to make some calls to as there was one piece of legislation passed here for medical reasons I just don't know if it's been left dead on the floor or what. Here is about where they left off in my state:

    https://www.mpp.org/states/north-carolina/

    I do have to do the Chemotherapy however as one of my many tumors has grown so large it needed to be put under control as it's effecting my breathing and wrapped around my pulmonary artery in such a way it could pinch that artery off at any time and create a much worse situation.

    I took my second round of chemo day before yesterday and the side effects are nausea for which I take medicine. No loss of hair so far is predicted and I'm not getting any of the side effects of soars in the mouth so that's a good thing. No fevers just really tired and a day after of frequent trips to the bathroom.

    I have lost some considerable weight which they are watching closely...for which I'm working hard to get the calories I need. But it's hard when you just can't eat. Appetite is just gone out the window with this disease.
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    Hi,

    Note Reishi works to enhance the immune system and assists those undertaking Chemo & radio.

    Asparagus is a great alkaliniser and detoxifyer

    Check Okra

    Garlic enhances the effectiveness of chemo
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Just WOW, Matisse! So sorry to hear your news....one can count on Avalonians to have great suggestions! I'm trying some suggested for my heart condition! Prayers & Healing Thoughts going you way!

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    I think this is a particularly interesting thread. I enjoyed all the suggestions thus given.
    I didn't see anyone talk about Rife technology. In the early 1940's Royal Rife proved he could get rid of cancer with electrical waves and frequencies.
    I recently bought one of these machines called a Spooky 2. I think it is priced very fairly considering the parameters of its healing. Also they have a tremendous number of success stories which many rife sites didn't have. It has over 20000 different things that it can match frequencies with and according to them neutralize.
    This device even has remote capabilities, healing at a distance, which I thought at first was quackery but having experienced it; it is far from a placebo effect.


    Here is a video that is on their site: http://www.spooky2videos.com/video/c...ne-technology/

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    Hi everyone, just wanted to give an update on the situation and what i,m doing about it.
    I had a very long post written a week ago then i somehow lost it....

    Since my last post i have done a scan and bone scan and the results arent the greatest,
    the cancer has spread into the limfatic system, especially the nodes nearby the prostate,
    one node by the collarbone, and also to the liver. Good news is the bones havent been
    affected, they say it is an atipic cancer because of this, because it usually does go to the bones.
    This week they have started me on hormone therapy to begin with, because this type pf
    cancer lives on testerone, so to cut off its food supply-

    Here is what i,m doing insofar as alternative therapies, i have spent many hours doing
    as much research and documentation possible. I have found much valuable information on this
    web site
    https://www.cancertutor.com/dirtcheapprotocol/
    On this site they say that cancer is like a brush fire, the more fire trucks you have to
    help the better.

    So here i will list the fire trucks i,ve been using...

    The Kelmun protocol- (sodium bicarbonate and unrefined maple syrup )

    Alkaline diet- Cancer cells are at home in an acidic enviroment, they also love glucose,
    so it is important no sugars of any type, no unrefined grains, lots of vegetables,
    salads, no dairy. I,m eating lots of carrots and spinach...etc-

    Aloe Arborescens- Father Zago's recipe- (kills cancer)

    Essiac Tea- (kills cancer and detox)

    Beta Glukan- (immune system)

    Phyktoplankton- (immune system)

    Turkey Tail mushroom- (immune system and helps fight cancer)

    Epilobio extract- (an herb, especially helps against prostate cancer)

    Milk thistle suplement- (fights, slows and kills cancer cells, especially prostate cancer)

    Zinc-

    MMS (organic sulfur) protocol-as in the dirt cheap protocol (i'm still waiting for the LIPH to arrive)(update-i,ve given up on the LIPH, it got stuck at customs)

    Bitter apricot seed extract (laetril) – known to kill cancer cells

    Kalanchoe Daigremontiana- has been known to cure cancer, here is an interesting video of a man here in Catalunya.

    here is a link to an interesting association here and also works in l
    latin america,
    https://dolcarevolucio.cat/language/es/portada/

    Tumeric, cinamon and ginger- I use all as much as possible in cooking and teas, also i am taking a suplement of curumina extract (anti tumural and anti inflamatory)

    Green tea-

    Tulsi tea-

    Maria Trebens herbal mix- for tea, includes nettle, yarrow and maravilla

    Magnesium Chloride- Dr. Sircus talks about how important it is fighting cancer

    Artemisia- (sweet wormwood) is known to help fight malaria and is thought to be
    helpfull against cancer

    N-Acetil-L-Cisteina- amino acid anti oxidant, also protects liver

    I,m also doing acupuncture sessions and some Qi Gong

    Note- i just read that some studies have showed that anti-oxidants may actually help cancer to grow and metasize, so i will reflect on this and maybe take less suplements of certain types. Lately I have reduced also calorie intake, maybe lately i have been too healthy and this also strengthens the cancer, these are things i,m reflecting on, my acupuncturist did say to eat less, i was a bit wary as i,ve already lost 11 kilos, but now I think this is the road to go.

    Sorry it has taking me so long to update this thread, time flies by...
    This week and next they are doing all the tests again, the TAC, bone scan and several blood tests, the 26 i get the results.

    Thank you all for your support and good wishes....
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    Default Re: Prostate cancer

    One aspect of Cancer not mentioned is it often preceded by a loss or upset of some kind. Cancer could very well have a psychosomatic inception and a good therapy that can address those losses can help. Not to mention many of the "medical treatments" are very upsetting, painful and with adverse side effects.

    Also not just "fight" the cancer;get the immune system back to battery so it can help defeat any illness.

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