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    I'm starting this thread to provide a standalone platform for author and researcher Walter Bosley. Most of you will know he's a member, frequently posting on the Corey Goode thread.

    But Walter has far more to talk about that he has on the forum so far. This first post is just a summary (a sort of index, maybe).

    His YouTube channel, called 'The Walter Bosley Channel'. He has nearly 50 of his 'Breakaway' vlogs (video blogs), where he comments regularly and succinctly on a wide range of issues.
    His presentation at the 2015 Secret Space Program conference:


    And his books:
    The Secret Missions series:



    The Empire of the Wheel series:



    Other books:



    He'll be here to field questions on anything which he knows a lot about (which may be more than many members realize. )
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    Hey, this is cool. Thanks, Bill!

    Bill and I agreed that this is a good idea (since I'm active and accessible here) because hijacking threads is no fun, but people will have questions about crap I've said and odd things I've written, lol.

    I look forward to questions and comments and will do my best to respond in a timely fashion.

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    Thank you for your body of work!

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    Default Re: The Walter Bosley thread

    Thank you for posting this, it is actually new and novel information with a very well thought out and researched perspective.

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    Default Re: The Walter Bosley thread

    Quote Posted by WalterBosley (here)
    Hey, this is cool. Thanks, Bill!

    Bill and I agreed that this is a good idea (since I'm active and accessible here) because hijacking threads is no fun, but people will have questions about crap I've said and odd things I've written, lol.

    I look forward to questions and comments and will do my best to respond in a timely fashion.
    Well, the "crap" I just listened to is well organized, well researched, and truly utterly interesting. I am just eager to read about the link to ET's on one hand and the spiritualist movements on the other hand.

    Wonderful work Walter, many thanks. Very well presented too, which is a gift in itself. We need more of yousss for research like this.

    the reverse engineering would have been just added to knowledge already there. I wonder what the mysterious liquid was composed of... could it be mercury or lithium?

    I had heard of counter rotation and torsion fields since childhood. And the cone within... interesting. I do think the kind of knowledge related to anti-gravity and the bell technologies was part of the era and many connected to it consciously or not. Why at that time, that way, god knows... but i think it was to be provided to humanity as a whole, in terms of the overall design of human evolution, but it was not provided. This changed our paths towards further development as a human race.

    We have been hijacked by mafia-like groups from the start it seems, which you kind of demonstrated as well.
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    Hi Walter
    Dude you are extremely articulate. You have a good speaking voice.
    You have impressive credentials.
    Counter terrorism OPS and Consulting.
    National Security Division of the FBI.
    Captain of the USAF. That is pretty impressive.
    My favorite source for information regarding what you speak of is from another retired USAF man "Wendelle Stevens".
    He has a marathon video "high production" on S4 that was put out a few years ago.
    It's the best video of it's kind in my opinion. His Whistle Blower from Area51/S4 is the best of it's kind in my opinion.
    S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean

    I'm a huge fan of Wendelle's books as well. The guy is the premier researcher of the UFO field in my opinion.



    You think the breakaway civilization started in the 19th century?

    That is kind of crazy.

    So in the post civil war era we had a break away civlization, they had technology separating them from the rest?
    A Prussian Nationalist Cabal? Calling themselves the Nymza = NJMZa? Dude I'm a guy who has heard it all. I mean I've heard most. But I've heard nothing about this so color me skeptical in my spectacles.

    You are starting to sound like this is going to the origins in the Vrill society.

    Especially as it started with Edward Bulwer-Lytton.


    You are speaking on areas that are very near and dear to me.
    I've often wondered how much the Nazi presence influences and or controls this breakaway civilization.
    You say the Nazi's do not control the present breakaway civlization. Are you familiar with an ideology that does in fact control the breakaway civilization?
    Are you familiar with the Billy Meier material? I've often wondered if a Nazi hold over in Antarctica was/were in fact the Plieadians.

    The Nimza?
    This word reminds of Mimzy. I say this because of the Movie "The Last Mimzy" which is about people in the future sending back artifacts to collect DNA which has become degenerated in the future. The movie "hints" that many UFO's are from the future.
    Just Correlating out loud.

    Will return for more comments, have to go.
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    So Nymza started off as Mufon.

    I'm at the 12 minute mark here brother, and you need to start speeding up your delivery and or information correlation.
    Sonora Aero Club flying rudimentary machines in the air in the 1850's?
    Do you have any kind of correlating evidence?
    Peter Menace was the leader of the Sonora Flying Club.
    Anti-gravity in the 1850's?
    It would seem to me, that if technology for anti-grav could be made in the 1850's then really anyone could do it in their garage or machine shop.
    So, I'm having a hard time with this.
    Why isn't there any information concerning this peripherally in the works of others?
    Even the Nazi Bell seems to require scientific experts and massive amounts of electrical energy to get going.
    And yet this Sonora club was working with Industrial Revolution technology?
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Okay, I'm now 35 minutes into the video.
    I've been watching, I've been paying attention.
    But I've got to tell you.
    I give very little credit and or merit to information that is isolated and not connected to any other information.
    I'm at a point in the video where you seem to be making guesses on who is in the Nimza club. Guesses?
    I'm sorry but everything about your information so far feels like guesses.
    You are a smart dude, so in so far as this video is concerned I do not know where you are going with this.
    I've been patient I feel, but you are not making it clear where this information is going.
    And as to now I personally feel no validity in the information shared thus far.
    If you might comment in such a manner that intrigues me, then okay, I'll resume.
    But bro, I'm a been there, done that, seen that kind of guy. Stories in isolation with no framework connecting them to the rest of the literature and or body of work tend to be just that, stories.
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    How much caffeine have you had?

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    DNA,

    If you're actually paying attention to my presentation at the SSP conference, you'll know that it's backed up by my book Origin and in that book I provide the sources for what information I provide. And where I am speculating, I state that I am speculating. I say 'I think' or 'I propose', etc etc. I would recommend watching the video again and reconsider it from this perspective. And, of course, I would recommend reading the book. If after that you still have your very acceptable doubts, I would just leave it at that. I don't evangelize. I never try to convince people of anything about which they're skeptical. I present what I think and what I propose might back it up as much as I can, and I leave it to the viewer/reader to decide for himself.
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    Hello Walter, here is my contribution. As a friend of Kevin Smith (RIP) I enjoyed your interviews with him since many years. Thank you. Please enjoy.

    The Kevin Smith Show | Walter Bosley | Crime Murder and Mystery | 2013-05-06

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    Description: Walter Bosley - Investigative author and publisher Walter Bosley discusses his discovery of information linking cult killings in the early 1900's, Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid, the Secret Service, and a mysterious private German aero research and development group which became the forerunner and funder of what became the NAZI advanced space research and development. Blockbuster info. -The Kevin Smith Show
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    Damn, I miss that guy. He was one of the best.

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    Walter Bosley | Secret Space Programs & Breakaway Civilizations

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    Investigator of historical occult mysteries, author of pulp fiction novels and a screenwriter who has appeared on History Channel's 'Ancient Aliens'.

    After nineteen years in national security, Walter Bosley is a licensed private investigator in California where he also runs his small press publishing company, Lost Continent Library, founded in 2002. Bosley has traveled much of the world, both on the job and off, including trips through Mexico and South America with David Hatcher Childress whose WEX Magazine has published articles by Bosley.

    Walter Bosley was born in San Diego, California, and attended SDSU where he earned a B.A. in Journalism. He has been employed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, is an inactive reserve officer in the US Air Force for which he served as a Special Agent of the AFOSI while on active duty, and then worked as a counterterrorism operational consultant for six years following military service.

    Bosley spends his time writing fiction and non-fiction, as well as investigating strange mysteries, in between PI assignments. The latest news about Bosley's projects can be found at the following blogs: empireofthewheel.blogspot.com & lostcontinentlibrary.blogspot.com


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    Just FYI, everyone:

    I've had my fill in general of trolls so you'll find I won't take their bait. I personally don't find debating with them to be 'good forum content' so I won't engage in that direction. Been there, done that, there's no real value in it.

    Also, I probably won't read lengthy stuff. And I'll try to keep my own commentary down to a paragraph or less.

    Thanks!

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    Hi Walter,

    can you say anything about your thoughts on Richard Doty, and the practices used by that team?

    Many thanks.

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    DNA wrote:

    Quote I'm a huge fan of Wendelle's books as well. The guy is the premier researcher of the UFO field in my opinion.
    This quote from Bill @ the Mirage Men thread:

    Quote Doty talked extensively about the Paul Bennewitz affair, as he has done before, but what was NEW was his revelation that not only had Bill Moore (famously!) been co-opted by Doty at AFOSI (the Air Force Office of Special Investigations) to 'co-operate' by supplying information to them, but also Wendelle Stevens. (Wow.)
    Any thought's on this DNA?

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    Well, if you're referring to the AFOSI, I was on that team for almost six years. I assume since you are referring to Doty, that means the Bennewitz issue.I have said many times that the Bennewitz affair went sour at the hands of the NSA, in my analysis of the situation. I find AFOSI gets a lot of undeserved mud thrown its way.

    As regards Doty, I just 'met' the man for the first time a few months ago, in an online private message chat. It was a positive experience. We were both featured in Mirage Men, so that being the other issue that involves Doty I can say that the producers of that are considered to be automatically critical of the US military where anything UFO is concerned. But they just love the CIA guy which would, under any other circumstances in the UFO community, be highly questionable, so you be the judge. I'm saying that the Mirage Men portrayal is skewed.

    Doty is not the bad guy. The AFOSI is not the enemy. That's the rational position, from my perspective.
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    Hi Walter,

    can you say anything about your thoughts on Richard Doty, and the practices used by that team?

    Many thanks.

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    Quote Posted by WalterBosley (here)
    Well, if you're referring to the AFOSI, I was on that team for almost six years. I assume since you are referring to Doty, that means the Bennewitz issue.I have said many times that the Bennewitz affair went sour at the hands of the NSA, in my analysis of the situation. I find AFOSI gets a lot of undeserved mud thrown its way.

    As regards Doty, I just 'met' the man for the first time a few months ago, in an online private message chat. It was a positive experience. We were both featured in Mirage Men, so that being the other issue that involves Doty I can say that the producers of that are considered to be automatically critical of the US military where anything UFO is concerned. But they just love the CIA guy which would, under any other circumstances in the UFO community, be highly questionable, so you be the judge. I'm saying that the Mirage Men portrayal is skewed.

    Doty is not the bad guy. The AFOSI is not the enemy. That's the rational position, from my perspective.
    Yes, absolutely, on all counts. I knew Doty, too.

    Allow me to copy this post here, which I wrote earlier today: (Walter, I'd be MOST interested in your comments.)

    ~~~

    Marvelous, important interview. This may well deserve its own thread.

    Highly recommended. Jimmy Church did his best when totally ambushed by the unexpected call.

    Doty talked extensively about the Paul Bennewitz affair, as he has done before, but what was NEW was his revelation that not only had Bill Moore (famously!) been co-opted by Doty at AFOSI (the Air Force Office of Special Investigations) to 'co-operate' by supplying information to them, but also Wendelle Stevens. (Wow.)

    Doty explained that each AFOSI agent had been tasked to recruit a handful of people in the UFO community, and that he had two others who he was handling as well, whom he didn't name.

    * BUT (!)

    There were 122 AFOSI agents in the field, each tasked with the same orders — although some were working internationally (e.g. in Europe and elsewhere). So the total number of co-operating recruits in the community numbered between 350—500. Bill Moore was just ONE of them. Doty didn't know who had been recruited by all the other agents.

    * AND (!)

    The AFOSI weren't the only players in the field. The DIA and the FBI were also doing the same thing, and Doty stressed that the FBI had a really extensive operation.

    So, OMG. No-one expected those numbers. This information is new. All this was in the 80s, but in that decade there was EXTENSIVE infiltration in the UFO community.

    Church of course asked whether this was continuing. Doty said he wasn't in the loop any more, but he personally knew of two public names, currently active, who had been recruited. He implied that there must of course be many more.

    Wow, once again.

    After one takes a breath, that's no real surprise, but it was pretty interesting to hear it from the horse's mouth.

    As always, Doty was friendly, affable, chatty and open. He always has been. (I knew him myself.)

    More (in summary!) that Doty stated or clarified:
    • There were two crashes at 'Roswell' (two craft: one near Corona, and another, discovered two years later in 1949, near Magdalena), and that one live ET had been recovered. And there were other crashes in the late 40s and early 50s as well.
    • Paul Bennewitz was very much the architect of his own downfall, and was determined to believe what he did — even despite Doty's later attempted dissuasion. All this time, Doty was merely following orders, very low in the food chain as one of many AFOSI field agents.
    • There would regularly be as many as 20 agents, from different agencies, attending every UFO conference.
    • 'Falcon' (of the 'Aviary'), and famously showcased in the 1988 documentary UFO Cover-Up?: Live!, was Richard Helms.
    • The MJ-12 documents that Bill Moore had acquired seemed to be genuine, and Doty didn't know how Moore had received them.
    Church did pretty well on the fly. But OMG, I wish he'd had the presence of mind to also ask him the following:
    • Why did he call in?
    • Were the MJ-12 documents genuine that Doty famously presented to Linda Howe?
    • What was Doty's actual role in the Serpo affair?
    • What happened to the Roswell live alien that was recovered? What information was learned?
    • What had he heard or learned about the Apollo missions, and the current Secret Space Program?
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    Great thread.

    Thank's to all involved, especially Walter & Bill.

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    Quote Doty is not the bad guy. The AFOSI is not the enemy. That's the rational position, from my perspective.
    Who is the enemy, in your opinion, Walter?
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    In the Bennewitz affair, it was NSA and people above AFOSI command.

    Regarding the agents attending UFO conferences and recruiting in the 80s, I wasn't in until 1994 so I can't tell you anything regarding the validity of what Doty said about that. I can, based on experience, propose that their presence may not have been to suppress ET as much as it would more likely have involved classified program protection efforts. There may also have been an espionage concern, i.e. foreign intel agencies infiltrating US UFO groups.

    Are you sure there is an enemy within the context here, so to speak?

    And I would have no way of knowing for certain whether or not Doty really is retired from operational life. So think about that when reading his revelations noted above.

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    Great thread.

    Thank's to all involved, especially Walter & Bill.

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    Quote Doty is not the bad guy. The AFOSI is not the enemy. That's the rational position, from my perspective.
    Who is the enemy, in your opinion, Walter?
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    For sure I'm well aware that a lot of these 'operators' are never out, out. And the UFO topic has been/is a golden goose for intel agencies to cover-up all sorts of shenanigans and deadly-serious subjects.

    Enemy? Maybe too strong of a term, granted, but not men to break bread with, there is always an Enemy Within. For sure.
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