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    I also think that transgender serves to push the woman back so that they do not gain power or a place in the sun.

    I was so surprised that a man was named woman of the year in Europe (a transgender) - what did he do that was exceptional to be anything of the years, except changing sex? (the cells never change sex, only the external apparatus do, with some hormones)

    I am also surprised that the president of the women association for women's rights in Montreal is a male transgender.

    How can a transgender ever understand a woman problem - he never menstruated, won't carry children, has not been so discriminated on the work market, etc etc. Yet, he is taking women's rightful place.

    And I am surprised that women do not react more for their own rights and place. We are being pushed aside by people who represent themselves, as transgender, a third way/sex, not us as woman
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    I also think that transgender serves to push the woman back so that they do not gain power or a place in the sun.

    I was so surprised that a man was named woman of the year in Europe (a transgender) - what did he do that was exceptional to be anything of the years, except changing sex? (the cells never change sex, only the external apparatus do, with some hormones)

    I am also surprised that the president of the women association for women's rights in Montreal is a male transgender.

    How can a transgender ever understand a woman problem - he never menstruated, won't carry children, has not been so discriminated on the work market, etc etc. Yet, he is taking women's rightful place.

    And I am surprised that women do not react more for their own rights and place. We are being pushed aside by people who represent themselves, as transgender, a third way/sex, not us as woman
    That's incredible!

    A natural born man made woman of the year?!!
    A natural born man made president of a woman's association?!?

    My mind was boggled before, now all the information coming out puts me on ultra-boggle!

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    i believe it'was always about the paedophiles , they are just preparing the soil
    Mostly, indeed: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post781292

    ... which ties in with Edgar Cayce's description of the "elite" of Atlantis and their "creatures" manufactured for their "pleasure"... slaves, in other words.
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    There is also a big push for genderless people, calling somebody male or female will be another -ism and I'm sure it coincides with literally turning us into robots as they strip away our identities look at the term they use - "Non-binary"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udI-Go8KK2Q
    Yes, I agree Megalithic Man. I've often thought that 'Non-Binary' sounds Transhuman! When you factor in as well, the research and development of A.I, incorporating consumer technology and entertainment etc it all adds up!!!

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    A few observations.

    The human brain has not fully developed until the age of 25 and a person should not be considered a full adult before that.

    Our human souls have lived lives both as men and women, however some souls have chosen to live lives more as men or women throughout their incarnations for various reasons. Sometimes the the soul might be confused about their current gender and they want to return to their previous gender. Then there's also homosexuality. The persons who are homosexuals often struggle with much guilt and shame thanks to societal pressure. That might lead to decisions about changing their gender altogether.

    So, let children be children. They are not able to make fully rational decisions until their brains have fully developed! Most importantly don't indocrinate them into believing some ideologies, but teach them about human biology. Not only that, teach them about the soul! Teach them what it means to be a human being, a decent human being at that.
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    This is the cover for National Geographic at the same time Bruce Jenner was being named woman of the year.




    This is the cover for National Geographic January 2017.
    It is a transgender child.
    Yes there is definitely an agenda at place here.
    WOW. That's REALLY hard to believe.

    What the **** is National Geographic doing getting involved in this ???
    Rupert Murdoch!!!! I haven't seen the Gender issue, but I noticed in this month's new issue (I think - or was it last month's?) an article about 'Why Vaccines Matter.' So its clear where this one time wonderful magazine is now heading ....

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    This is the cover for National Geographic at the same time Bruce Jenner was being named woman of the year.




    This is the cover for National Geographic January 2017.
    It is a transgender child.
    Yes there is definitely an agenda at place here.
    WOW. That's REALLY hard to believe.

    What the **** is National Geographic doing getting involved in this ???
    In 2015 NG were kind of bought out by Fox, that beacon of truth and high moral standards.

    I noticed an immediate change in the first issue following. What looked like short 2 or 3 page stories were actually ads, usually corporate spin. They devoted almost an entire issue to climate change and there was no questioning current mainstream thought.
    The only thing going for it is the wonderful photography - let's hope that doesn't change!!!

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    A few observations.

    The human brain has not fully developed until the age of 25 and a person should not be considered a full adult before that.

    Our human souls have lived lives both as men and women, however some souls have chosen to live lives more as men or women throughout their incarnations for various reasons. Sometimes the the soul might be confused about their current gender and they want to return to their previous gender. Then there's also homosexuality. The persons who are homosexuals often struggle with much guilt and shame thanks to societal pressure. That might lead to decisions about changing their gender altogether.

    So, let children be children. They are not able to make fully rational decisions until their brains have fully developed! Most importantly don't indocrinate them into believing some ideologies, but teach them about human biology. Not only that, teach them about the soul! Teach them what it means to be a human being, a decent human being at that.
    "Teach them about the soul."

    This is the direction I would like to see education taking. This is the basis of the educational programs that I am developing. The audience I am targeting is home school and adults who are choosing conscious transformation. I sure hope it has a positive impact in our world!

    We need to have something that will replace indoctrination, and serve as a consciousness rehab program to reverse the impacts of such programming. This need is seeming increasingly more urgent.

    My efforts shall continue...

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    A few observations.

    The human brain has not fully developed until the age of 25 and a person should not be considered a full adult before that.

    Our human souls have lived lives both as men and women, however some souls have chosen to live lives more as men or women throughout their incarnations for various reasons. Sometimes the the soul might be confused about their current gender and they want to return to their previous gender. Then there's also homosexuality. The persons who are homosexuals often struggle with much guilt and shame thanks to societal pressure. That might lead to decisions about changing their gender altogether.

    So, let children be children. They are not able to make fully rational decisions until their brains have fully developed! Most importantly don't indocrinate them into believing some ideologies, but teach them about human biology. Not only that, teach them about the soul! Teach them what it means to be a human being, a decent human being at that.
    Gender identity is established in early childhood, if not infancy, based on the fetal environment.

    Beings who are physically boys but female brained and spirited should not be forced until they are 25 to remain in bodies that don't match with this reality. Puberty causes changes to the male body that are much more difficult to modify, post puberty -- even with hormone therapy. Transitioning for boys should begin before puberty.

    As far as physical appearance goes, men who are born female, have an easier time transitioning post puberty, as it is more a process of addition (musculature, facial hair) than subtraction.

    Did YOU have to wait until you were in your twenties before you knew for sure which gender you identified with?

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    Gender identity is established in early childhood, if not infancy, based on the fetal environment.

    Beings who are physically boys but female brained and spirited should not be forced until they are 25 to remain in bodies that don't match with this reality. Puberty causes changes to the male body that are much more difficult to modify, post puberty -- even with hormone therapy. Transitioning for boys should begin before puberty.

    As far as physical appearance goes, men who are born female, have an easier time transitioning post puberty, as it is more a process of addition (musculature, facial hair) than subtraction.

    Did YOU have to wait until you were in your twenties before you knew for sure which gender you identified with?
    You are asking a bunch of loaded questions. Yes, people should wait until adulthood to make such choices. Then again, I'm not a doctor with a medical degree. Why is there the need to fix the gender, if our soul chose to be born in this particular body to a particular place to particular parents? I think a lot of his has to do with accepting oneself - especially spiritually. If by changing your physical gender you can attain some kind of peacelfuness about yourself then that is good. We should just understand that there's still so much we don't understand about the human psyche and it's development. What if those children later regret the decision they or their parents made? I think we should pause for a moment to think about it.

    I always felt like a heterosexual boy, but I was sensitive and shy. I had to suffer a lot because of it. "Men don't cry". I could tell about my lives as a female in previous lives, but that might not be relevant to this discussion. However, that's why I mentioned the soul.
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Gender identity is established in early childhood, if not infancy, based on the fetal environment.

    Beings who are physically boys but female brained and spirited should not be forced until they are 25 to remain in bodies that don't match with this reality. Puberty causes changes to the male body that are much more difficult to modify, post puberty -- even with hormone therapy. Transitioning for boys should begin before puberty.

    As far as physical appearance goes, men who are born female, have an easier time transitioning post puberty, as it is more a process of addition (musculature, facial hair) than subtraction.

    Did YOU have to wait until you were in your twenties before you knew for sure which gender you identified with?
    You are asking a bunch of loaded questions. Yes, people should wait until adulthood to make such choices. Then again, I'm not a doctor with a medical degree. Why is there the need to fix the gender, if our soul chose to be born in this particular body to a particular place to particular parents? I think a lot of his has to do with accepting oneself - especially spiritually. If by changing your physical gender you can attain some kind of peacelfuness about yourself then that is good. We should just understand that there's still so much we don't understand about the human psyche and it's development. What if those children later regret the decision they or their parents made? I think we should pause for a moment to think about it.

    I always felt like a heterosexual boy, but I was sensitive and shy. I had to suffer a lot because of it. "Men don't cry". I could tell about my lives as a female in previous lives, but that might not be relevant to this discussion. However, that's why I mentioned the soul.
    When people don't identify as their soul, and when they aren't in tune with it, the soul choices are overrun with false identity (ego) choices. The awakening to one's true identity helps to clear things up.

    "Know Thy Self" as Socrates instructs is imperative.

    The whole mental programming stems from a materialistic worldview with the physical body as the source of identity. Know Source and indentity becomes clear.

    Only soul perceptions can grasp or apprehend the subtle impressions of Absolute truth. Meditation practices allows one to center on these perceptions. Many youth turn to meditation for holistic well-being.

    They are striving to be authentic. I was witness to this a few days ago when I went to a local poetry sharing. Pretty awesome, indeed!

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    In the 1980s in the UK, the Thatcher government brought in Clause 28, basically banning educators from speaking about the existence of 'gayness' as it would be deemed 'promotion'. The idea was to maintain the age-old tradition of only recognizing and supporting heterosexual relationships as the only desirable norm in society. Needless to say
    it left a lot of young people out in the cold and heading towards the proscribed self-loathing that any 'bent' and damaged soul deserved. It wasn't until sense prevailed and all that
    nonsense was scrapped that young gay people began to see themselves represented and validated by seeing themselves portrayed in the media positively.
    Now, I am not transgender, and thank god, else reading this rhetoric might just leave me feeling 'bent', 'damaged' and not good enough to assert my voice to clarify that 'my rights' are independent of any skewed fantasy about media corruption and agendas. I would just want some respect for who I am.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    This is the cover for National Geographic at the same time Bruce Jenner was being named woman of the year.




    This is the cover for National Geographic January 2017.
    It is a transgender child.
    Yes there is definitely an agenda at place here.
    WOW. That's REALLY hard to believe.

    What the **** is National Geographic doing getting involved in this ???
    I've been wrestling with National Geographic's sad decline from solid science-based journalism to this kind of squalor for a number of years now.

    It has suffered in decline in readership (there used to be well over 10 million subscribers) and is regrettably now part of Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp, whose approach to the media business has been well-documented (phone-hacking anyone?).

    But I mean, what the hell has transgenderism, important topic it may be some, got to do with geography, or how we relate to our planet?

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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    This is the cover for National Geographic at the same time Bruce Jenner was being named woman of the year.




    This is the cover for National Geographic January 2017.
    It is a transgender child.
    Yes there is definitely an agenda at place here.
    WOW. That's REALLY hard to believe.

    What the **** is National Geographic doing getting involved in this ???
    I've been wrestling with National Geographic's sad decline from solid science-based journalism to this kind of squalor for a number of years now.

    It has suffered in decline in readership (there used to be well over 10 million subscribers) and is regrettably now part of Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp, whose approach to the media business has been well-documented (phone-hacking anyone?).

    But I mean, what the hell has transgenderism, important topic it may be some, got to do with geography, or how we relate to our planet?

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    I am directly involved (as a friend) with a beautiful and demure young woman who is transitioning from male to female currently. She has suffered more than anybody should over this, emotionally and physically. Her soul remains purer than most in spite of it all.

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Gender identity is established in early childhood, if not infancy, based on the fetal environment.

    Beings who are physically boys but female brained and spirited should not be forced until they are 25 to remain in bodies that don't match with this reality. Puberty causes changes to the male body that are much more difficult to modify, post puberty -- even with hormone therapy. Transitioning for boys should begin before puberty.

    As far as physical appearance goes, men who are born female, have an easier time transitioning post puberty, as it is more a process of addition (musculature, facial hair) than subtraction.

    Did YOU have to wait until you were in your twenties before you knew for sure which gender you identified with?
    You are asking a bunch of loaded questions. Yes, people should wait until adulthood to make such choices. Then again, I'm not a doctor with a medical degree. Why is there the need to fix the gender, if our soul chose to be born in this particular body to a particular place to particular parents? I think a lot of his has to do with accepting oneself - especially spiritually. If by changing your physical gender you can attain some kind of peacelfuness about yourself then that is good. We should just understand that there's still so much we don't understand about the human psyche and it's development. What if those children later regret the decision they or their parents made? I think we should pause for a moment to think about it.

    I always felt like a heterosexual boy, but I was sensitive and shy. I had to suffer a lot because of it. "Men don't cry". I could tell about my lives as a female in previous lives, but that might not be relevant to this discussion. However, that's why I mentioned the soul.
    I am approaching this from a more scientific and personal experience. Life as a transgendered person has been one of terrific social and familial condemnation, misunderstanding and rejection. Many of them turn tricks for a living as it is the only way they can make enough money to pay for their transition.

    They sacrifice a great deal to be what we take for granted --- their authentic selves.

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    Im glad there is finally a thread for this discussion. I have had a hard time wrapping my head around it all. Definitely seems to be a push to normalize this insanity. I too have postulated chemicals having something to do with this. We’re seeing it more and more. What do globalist gain from transgender agenda? We are already seeing the guided divide between male and female, with #metoo campaigns and the sudden hooplah about sexual assault victims suddenly coming from the shadows.

    Sometimes I read the news and want a one way ticket to the other side of the universe. This planet is NUTS!!!
    re: that whole " #metoo"thing http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018...lano-shes-lie/

    Quote Rose McGowan slammed Alyssa Milano as “a lie” and noted that she is married to an agent from the Creative Artists Agency (CAA), which she claims is “part of the pimp problem” in Hollywood, during an interview about the #MeToo Movement on Wednesday.
    cos the viral nature of that whole thing and the spin hijacked from the start and agenda ridden , it's sorta how hollywood like to work

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    Metoo movement has such huge potential to devolve into a mean spirited food fight and witch hunt at the same time! Fun for the whole family😀

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    the trangender issue is been with us since the begining of times, you are all talking about it like a new thing. The only new thing is the visualization of this people. They are just like anyone else. We live in a diverse world and i thank universe for such a rich diversity. It is really so hard for your minds to accept there are woman with pennis and mans with vagina???
    Many threads had been opened here with this issue. Transgender kids have very clear their gender, i dont even like the term transgender. Do make no mistake nor mix stuff, one thing is your gender, a diferent one are your genitals and another your sex interest. There are Indian tribes who celebrated the coming to the tribe of such a people becouse they brought, in only one human both visions, male and female. Yes, i do believe the transgender movement is being used to normalize pedophilia... but it is just becouse of the lack of awareness about this issue. Transgender kids just want to be treated as they feel they are. I don put vaccines to my kids and my second boy has a vagina... This people, as they are accepted in society, are refusing to go to cirgury. I know another kid with vagina who dont want his ovaries to be removed and, even thouugh he is a man, he wishes to give birth sometime in the future. Now they are visible and wont take **** from noone in order to dont disturb your precious reslity of boys with pennis and girls with vagina.... it is all about acceptance and diversity, which we should celebrate. For me is sad to see people ,in a place like this, shorted minded, so sorry to see it. Check the history, transgender have been among us since the very begining, but hide from the public or living their lives without telling or talking about their condition. My own kiids told me when he was 4, something did not match in his live, but he was not sure what was it. So he asked, when we still dressed him like a girl, to get all his close (the girlsone) on black color, but did not work, then white then yellow, and finnaly he said i want boys underwear, that same year he asked santa CLaus for a pennis. Now days and thanks to all the parents toguther we have been able to change his name in his id. I like to ask you all...what the f*** is wrong with diversity of gender? dont missunderstand the question, i ain´t talking about sex preferences, just gender. Sometimes i believe you all people here know too much but dont see the real thing bc you are still programed somehow.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    What do globalists gain from the transgender agenda?
    That's a very, very good question.

    To hazard a guess (and all other ideas are most welcome!): it may be to do with the planned strategic destruction of the family (to facilitate the takeover of the state to condition children)... and also may be connected with the eugenics or population-control agendas.
    You are right on all counts, Bill. As usual, the controllers strategy is muti-pronged. Depopulation is one of their goals, as is genetic tuning. Destruction of the family is certainly one, elevating the role of government in child rearing is another. Setting the ground for normallizing paedophilia is another. A police officer who was on the child abuse squad of our region told our parents group that the sexually explicit parts of the sex education curriculum recently introduced in our province were explicit in ways used by paedophiles to 'groom' young children for future abuse. This officer would not publicly state this for fear of reprisal. This curriculum was developed by a civil servant later convicted on child pornography charges. The curriculum still remains in place. Further to this agenda, the government has passed legislation that says that government child services can take children from families who object to underage children that want to have sex change operations.

    Another step in this program will likely be an attempt to ban home schooling, so that families will have greater difficulties in avoiding state driven programs in the education system.

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    Wish you all a great night rest. Much love
    Juan, much love to you and your Family.
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    Oh, found it! An oldie but goodie recycle graphic.


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