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    Thank you Justplain. If transgender kids are now more visible is due to their families, parents are the ones accepting what their children seriously say and defend it in front of the duality society. It is been proven that the gender has nothing to do with sex preferences. Your gender is fixed in your brain, and kids have it clear in ages where the sexual thing is very well far. I am involve in the movement for exactly this Justplain wrote "A mature way to manage the subject would simply be sensitivity training for educators, and student guidance counsellors, to help identify and properly respond to those children who have this issue. Research shows the vast majority with this issue eventually grow to accept their natural gender if left to growup normally. For those who still choose to, they can/should be able to have a gender change operation in adulthood. " and ofcourse elite pedophiles are trying to hide behind homosexuality acceptance in society, as well as in saria law which accepts marriage with girls of 12 years old, this is sad. People in the movement are aware but we wont stop defending our child´s right to define themselves. We are truely parent who want a "normal" "regular" life for our kids and stop the need to hide.
    This is all about diversity, period. I wont get tire of saying this:
    There are man with vagina and womans with pennis.
    Get out of the duality and embrace the diversity. No more black or white, there is a whole spectrum of colors out there.
    and i repeat again , do not mix stuff, one thing is your gender a complete diferent thing is your genitals and a third thing is your sexual preferences. All this three develop in diferent stages of the person growth.
    Many people asociate transgender to sexual depravation, and that is becouse most of transgender people in the past did not have the aprouval nor the support of their families and were allways put aside, making them be parias and only had one way to scape their families. Many others transgender through out history just kept it in secret and lived their lives as the gender they felt their own.
    I have meet so many kids who had this very clear at very young ages. If they have support from the begining they are just fine.
    to conclude i say that the one who has a problem is society itself and not these kids who wont take no **** from noone in order to live their lives.
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    What do globalists gain from the transgender agenda?
    That's a very, very good question.

    To hazard a guess (and all other ideas are most welcome!): it may be to do with the planned strategic destruction of the family (to facilitate the takeover of the state to condition children)... and also may be connected with the eugenics or population-control agendas.
    Absolutely. It started with communities, villages, towns, cities, then the big push, the Nuclear Family. It's the Art of War - Divide and Conquer. The century of Self, nothing is more important than the (egotistical) Self, social media and 'reality' tv attests to this as fact.

    I'll tell you this, growing-up during the Cold War, the constant fear of being nuked, the Government propaganda through film and tv, the drills at school if missiles were in-bound........... It was a walk in the park compared to the generation that is having to grow-up now, surrounded with all of this bullish*t. Soon, sex will not be for pro-creation purposes at all, people will shop, (the ultra-rich already do, and have done for some time) and decide every characteristic that they desire for their 'off-spring'.

    It's a recipe for disaster, man playing at being God, man knowing better than Nature.

    We all know it.

    The question is, what the f**k can we do about it?

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    So many things have changed when this pandora opened. I just don't understand why the same people claiming they really don't know what they are sexually, are pushing our children that already identify through gender. I saw the rapper Genuine get sexually harrassed by a transvestite, when he said he preferred 'natural woman, not surgical." Then the gay man/woman tried to make him kiss him in front of the world. He pushed away and they called him homophobic because "he too has a choice and identity: Heterosexual. I was taught no matter your gender preference to keep your bedroom privacy in your bedroom where it's private, and this push, plus the atrazene they have in processed drinks, is just making it worse. They call atrazene in our communities the "gay drug." Latinos and HebAmericans don't give their children unnatural corporate lab drinks. WE've seen after Flint in the water, they never gave a darn about us. Careful spiritual family. They are playing for keeps. Has anyone read "The Gay Agenda" yet? Look it up and spend some time reading their plans and see, if it doesn't line up with what's going on now. The spirit of sodom has come to America. In the churches, and bathrooms and classrooms. Time to pray for justice for our children and as soon as we can, address this deviant public behavior in front of our children, trying to mind screw them to thinking what is bad is good. This isn't just physical, we all know it's spiritual also.
    Shalom.
    PS, Time for some pc programs for homeschooling where they can be safe from sexual pressure during recess/rest periods at school. I don't care what heterosexuals do in their bedroom and I don't care what transgender or Gay do in their own privacy of their bedroom. The key word being private between "their family" not ours.

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    I invite discussion about what causes the psychological need of a father of high means and power to sexually violate his young children and to commit vile crimes against at least one of the young female offspring of his daughter, surgically slitting the genitalia to permit entry around the age of 2.5 years, trying to kill it through starvation and thirst and exposure to severe cold and finally sending it to another country to be starved and beaten to death. The child survived due to the kindness of a poor woman who returned it to its original home. This family continued to deprive the child of nourishment. Somehow it survived to tell the story. What creates the need to commit such horror to a helpless human being. Is the person controlled by an evil spirit or brainwashed by some secret organization such as those devoted to world human genocide??? Perhaps not incidentally, the child witnessed this man in a homosexual act as well as in the act of sex with his young daughter. What twisted this mind? Although homosexuality exists in many races and cultures, my sojourn in New York City has left me with the strong impression that the members of a certain race and culture appear to carry homosexuality/schizophrenia, etc., to a marked extent, just as the rulers of this planet do.

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    Quote Posted by amor (here)
    Although homosexuality exists in many races and cultures, my sojourn in New York City has left me with the strong impression that the members of a certain race and culture appear to carry homosexuality/schizophrenia, etc., to a marked extent, just as the rulers of this planet do.
    perhaps you could stick your neck out and elaborate?

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    Snoman, Elaborate? Heck no. That was so off topic and off the charts lurid, I'd have to break out a bottle (of Valium) if my eyes strayed to the elaboration.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    What I worry about is how easily confused people can get, and how they start pointing their guns at the wrong groups of people. The war in Iraq is a good example. Iraq had nothing to do with 911, and yet it was quite easy to conflate the 2 in the minds of the American public.
    Right here on this forum, we are the minority in so far as pointing this stuff out.
    What I fear is the gay, lesbian and transgender community creating cultural rules and dictating how men and women who are not in this group should be treating and or communicating with one another.
    When it comes to the "politically correct" agendas being pushed, they seem for the most part to be coming from this community. Why?
    I don't believe heterosexuals need to have their behavior with one another policed by and or have standards set by the gay, lesbian and transgender community.
    For instance this uber energized concern for labeling a child's gender aka sexuality.
    Why is this everywhere in the school system?
    Why do we have little girls who just want to go to the bathroom at school told they are homophobes if they object to a boy using their bathroom who identifies as a girl?
    Why are we catering to such a small minority of people?
    What percentage of people constitute transgender anyway?
    This uber concern for this extremely small segment of the population is coming to you from the good folks in the Tavistock Institute funded by globalists who's objective is breaking up the American Family and creating a confused culture too afraid to have any standards or ethics remotely related to protecting a nuclear family.
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    They use that trick for everything, including sexuality, to confuse, misdirect, meddle, so forth. I only mentioned it as a warning. "They" know that by pushing the trans thing, it's going to upset a large group of people; and those people, in turn, are going to direct their anger and fear on the trans community...even though they don't really have anything to do with the agenda and are being exploited by forces beyond their understanding.
    The trans group is not their target.
    The American Family is their target.
    The Middle Class of the United States and beyond is their target.
    You really should listen to Dr. John Coleman, especially his stuff from 92'.
    He lays out the next ten years amazingly well.
    His information is what I would call a foundation piece, making the moves and maneuvers of the elite make sense.
    It is the destruction of the middle class that will have to take place before the globalists can implement their one world government.
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    Hey Marcus, the trans group may not be their target, but they become a target nonetheless; a target for the fear and confusion of the average person that's concerned about all the things you listed above. My point is that the average trans person is not trying to corrupt American families; but it's being made to appear as though they are. It goes much higher than that.

    My concern has already been illustrated perfectly by Amor above, when he conflates homosexuality with schitzophrenia, the implication being that homosexuality is an affliction of some sort.

    These psyops are created to polarize. Americans are supposed to be opinionated, and proud of their opinions. In this way we are tricked into *picking sides*, when in reality the sensible approach is much more nuanced than that. I could argue your side all day; I could argue the other side as well - but then we'd just be arguing, and that's what "they" want.

    You make many valid points, but they read like debate notes for someone who is heavily invested in one side of what is really a multi-sided dynamic. Take the women's liberation movement for example. On the surface it seemed like a good idea; women caught the fever and ran with it. That was supposed to destroy American families too. The Rockefellers started that. The women took the PC baton and ran with it, but the genesis began with the sinister Rockefellers. Same thing going on now with the trans movement.

    Yes, you're right, there are some dogmatic trans people making things uncomfortable for more traditional folks; but the push, the movement, began with sinister forces that they dont quite understand. They are being used and manipulated. And i think these dogmatic individuals represent a small minority, but are being made to appear to represent the majority - that's the psyop in my view. And that's what's creating all this fear concerning traditional families and so forth .

    I think the average trans individual just wants to get thru the day, they don't want to trouble anyone. Their life is hard enough! These issues about who can use which bathroom are totally overblown and used mainly as distractions. They make it sound like some crisis... as if every time someone has to take a leak they're surrounded by transgender bullies in the adjacent stalls, shouting lectures at them having to do with how they should live their lives

    I've only encountered a transgender person in the men's bathroom once. Once. I worked with this person. Sure, it was a little weird but that's about it. Not front page news.
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    DNA, As long as you are preoccupied with a very few radical types within the BLTQ community as a relevant source of society's discontent, you are focussed away from what is undermining the most families. If military budgets were cut way back, it would free up money for decent education, and all sorts of other positive economic imperatives that would address social despair. Way more families have lost a parent due to the opiod crisis, I'd imagine, than through transgenderism.

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    I've heard the argument for gay rights and such since I was in Kindergarten.
    I marched at Gay Pride when I was 5 holding the hand of my Gay Dad.
    Gay Dad, is that not a singularly funny thing to say.
    Things were bad in the sixties and seventies for gays, I'll admit that.
    But we are at a time where I dare say, "what more do they want".

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Hey Marcus, the trans group may not be their target, but they become a target nonetheless; a target for the fear and confusion of the average person that's concerned about all the things you listed above. My point is that the average trans person is not trying to corrupt American families; but it's being made to appear as though they are. It goes much higher than that.
    How about this and I hope you do not take this the wrong way.
    I don't care if the blow back results in a moral high ground being taken by folks and animosity is built towards the gay and transgender community.
    If the choice is A or B
    (A.) People fall in line with the transgender movement and we begin questioning kindergarten aged kids about their gender and when the necessary gender reassignment is to begin.
    or
    (B) America tightens it's hold on Christian Fundamentalism and rejects gays and lesbians out right because it is an abomination in the eyes of God.
    I would take choice B here.
    Choice A inflicts untold damage on the entire country.
    Choice B only causes an uncomfortable situation for 10% of the population.
    Mind you I'm no Christian, and I have no dog in the religious thing, I'm simply viewing a threat and the damage being inflicted being minimized.

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    My concern has already been illustrated perfectly by Amor above, when he conflates homosexuality with schitzophrenia, the implication being that homosexuality is an affliction of some sort.
    I'm more concerned with children being given drugs to alter their physiology long before they hit puberty.
    And then surgical procedures as well.
    This is a crime and it is being masqueraded as philanthropy and altruism when nothing could be further from the truth.

    I'm also absolutely against this multi-gender bullsh!t being shoved down people's throats as a talking point and a cultural necessity.
    It is not.
    Homosexuality at the most is maybe 10% of the population.
    What percentage would be gender confused?
    I'm guessing a fairly insignificant amount.
    Sex education classes are now being formed for earlier and earlier grades with the goal of introducing these unnecessary questions into a young persons life.
    A person of any knowledge of what is going on now has to homeschool their kids to protect them from this indoctrination.

    What we have in this situation are two people viewing this situation from a different vantage point.
    I see a incredibly dangerous attack on society and children in general, in all Western Countries really.
    You are looking at this from the vantage point that somebody's feelings are going to get hurt.

    Humanity is currently under attack right now, and this transgender agenda is a HUGE part of what is going on.


    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    These psyops are created to polarize.
    I'm of the opinion that these psyops are intended to alter and confuse perception.
    Liberal schools and Acadamia in general have already adopted these views with the intention of creating paradigms in the population.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Americans are supposed to be opinionated, and proud of their opinions. In this way we are tricked into *picking sides*, when in reality the sensible approach is much more nuanced than that. I could argue your side all day; I could argue the other side as well - but then we'd just be arguing, and that's what "they" want.
    You underestimate how much the country listens to the media and universities.
    For many the educated PHD academics are the equivilent of the new Priests.
    You seem to think that Avalon type minds are the norm in society, and they are not.
    The argument is not what they want.
    Altering the family structure in the united states is what they want.
    This is but a stepping stone in their Tavistock University birthed plan.
    They don't need the whole country to buy into this, just enough to create the necessary momentum.
    This is but a thread in the tapestry they are weaving.
    You seem to be of the opinion that we have to let this one go so we do not hurt anyone's feelings.
    I personally don't care about those feelings when looking at the over all tapestry and what is in store for America and the World at large.


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    You make many valid points,
    You do too, and if the stakes were lower I would shut up and agree with most of them.
    But the stakes are vastly high.

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    ...but they read like debate notes for someone who is heavily invested in one side of what is really a multi-sided dynamic.
    Again, on your side of the agenda someone's feelings get hurt.
    No one is going back to the police raids of gay bars in the sixties and seventies.
    No one cares about gays doing their thing.
    We simply don't want gay doctrine being preached to our kids six and seven years before they hit puberty.
    We do not want encouragement for transgender procedures and or tolerance for doctors who would practice this form of bastardized surgery on a chld, someone who is far too young to make that kind of decision for his/her self
    .
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Take the women's liberation movement for example. On the surface it seemed like a good idea; women caught the fever and ran with it. That was supposed to destroy American families too. The Rockefellers started that. The women took the PC baton and ran with it, but the genesis began with the sinister Rockefellers. Same thing going on now with the trans movement.
    The difference between then and now would be how far along the plan is. I think we are now in the end game.
    And look at how successful this plan was in terms of society now.
    The children and now adults of the country look to school, acadamia, media and Government when answers are needed.
    People do not research. People do not question authority
    This is one of the reasons why I say you can't look at Avalon and think folks at large are even as remotely informed.
    They are not.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Yes, you're right, there are some dogmatic trans people making things uncomfortable for more traditional folks; but the push, the movement, began with sinister forces that they dont quite understand. They are being used and manipulated. And i think these dogmatic individuals represent a small minority, but are being made to appear to represent the majority - that's the psyop in my view. And that's what's creating all this fear concerning traditional families and so forth .
    Fair enough, but schools, the media and Government seemed to have embraced this psyop, so it is not a matter of any talking heads being made the image of this movement, the movement is a full liberal agenda being pushed at every level.

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    I think the average trans individual just wants to get thru the day, they don't want to trouble anyone. Their life is hard enough! These issues about who can use which bathroom are totally overblown and used mainly as distractions. They make it sound like some crisis... as if every time someone has to take a leak they're surrounded by transgender bullies in the adjacent stalls, shouting lectures at them having to do with how they should live their lives

    I've only encountered a transgender person in the men's bathroom once. Once. I worked with this person. Sure, it was a little weird but that's about it. Not front page news.
    I'm not really concerned about who ever wants to do their business in a mens bathroom, but kids are a different story, and women are a different story.
    Think of women having to endure a six foot six man who talks in a baritone voice and has shoulders like a linebacker, but he is wearing a dress and saying he is transgender, now that is a different story.
    Why would a five year old girl have to endure that same man in the bathroom with her?
    Don't you see a problem here?
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    You kind of proved my point about polarization Marcus. It seems you can only see things happening in one of 2 ways (in your A and B examples above).

    That's the psyop being perpetrated among the country imo, that we have to *choose between one extreme and the other*. George Bush's "youre either for us or against us" quote comes to mind. It's dangerous and narrow thinking in my view.

    Dude I'm just as concerned about kids taking physiology morphing drugs as you. And premature surgeries and all that. It horrifies me. In fact, I find the whole idea of gender fluidity to be pretty bizarre. It makes me uncomfortable in many ways. But I'm not going to allow my discomfort to trigger me into taking extreme positions. It's just not productive. And all it does is make you susceptible to the hands of the manipulation.

    I'm intolerant of messing with kids minds. I'm intolerant of misleading sex ed. I'm intolerant of surgical procedures on kids who have no business making these decisions at such a young age. Couldn't agree with you more. There is a time and a place for intolerance. But it's intolerance run rampant - against a whole group of people - and drenched in absolutes and for us or against us rhetoric that is the true danger here.
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    Thanks Mike for pointing that out - I trust others will be able to understand the polarization being lain into social media what I would see is insidiously planted as opposed to evaluating critically very essential key points. Again very well said.
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    You kind of proved my point about polarization Marcus. It seems you can only see things happening in one of 2 ways (in your A and B examples above).
    No I can see it from a myriad of views. I can even see the point of the globalists who wish to perpetuate a depopulation agenda.
    If I'm picking sides or polarizing in your mind, fair enough. In my mind I see you as being naive right now and not understanding the real danger present to the world.
    It's hard to nail a point home sometimes when folks do not see the same reality.
    The gay folks will take care of themselves, they really will. They do not need state sponsored feel good bullsh!t.
    The children can not.
    I have kids.
    Do you have kids Mike?

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    That's the psyop being perpetrated among the country imo, that we have to *choose between one extreme and the other*. George Bush's "youre either for us or against us" quote comes to mind. It's dangerous and narrow thinking in my view.
    In your explanation what you are probably really saying is that liberals and conservatives are being pitted against one another.
    I don't think this is the case.
    I think this is a case of further entrenching the minds of present liberals making them even more off base from reality than they already are while at the same time attacking the core of the conservative right by brain washing their children.
    The globalists are satanists and lucifarians, and they are unabashedly against God and the Bible.
    At this point, the conservative right are the folks who through happenstance happen to be the most correct in their views.
    As such, this is a case of my enemy's enemy is my ally.
    I'm not right or left, but because of the present situation I'm allying myself with the right, hell I was just telling my wife we need to start going to church.
    The elite believe and worship the dark.
    And this is where this is all going.
    So I suppose we have to ask ourselves a question. Can we exist alone in a vacuum? Can we afford to sit on the fence and not make choices?
    Can we type along side our Avalon friends and think we are too enlightened to be fooled by the globalists and as such refuse to pick a side?
    I'm picking a side.
    I'm picking the side of the conservative church going right.
    We may see a day in the not so distant future where not picking a side is no longer an option.

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    Dude I'm just as concerned about kids taking physiology morphing drugs as you. And premature surgeries and all that. It horrifies me. In fact, I find the whole idea of gender fluidity to be pretty bizarre. It makes me uncomfortable in many ways. But I'm not going to allow my discomfort to trigger me into taking extreme positions.
    What is so extreme and wrong about saying I don't want a minority of the population who's morals and ethics I don't agree with to dictate social and moral norms to me and or society?
    Is it that wrong for me to say I do not agree with many of the standards and ethics in the gay and transgender community?

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    I'm intolerant of messing with kids minds. I'm intolerant of misleading sex ed. I'm intolerant of surgical procedures on kids who have no business making these decisions at such a young age. Couldn't agree with you more. There is a time and a place for intolerance. But it's intolerance run rampant - against a whole group of people - and drenched in absolutes and for us or against us rhetoric that is the true danger here.
    No one is being intolerant of anyone here.
    I'm just saying in a hypothetical context if there were a choice what decision I would make.
    I don't see anything wrong with that.
    I'm giving you a preemptive look at what is going to get thrown in our faces.
    If we progress to the point where society is actually challenging this transgender attack on our children then the left and the media is going to march out a bunch of crying gay and transgenders saying their rights have been treaded upon, and if and when that situation arises I will be the first to say they can f#ck off. I'm preimptivelly telling them to f#ck off.

    What I'm saying is.
    Don't be so easily manipulated.
    Don't be scared to say no because you are going to be told you are a homophobe and or intolerant.
    The conquering of self is truly greater than were one to conquer many worlds.
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    nope, we're definitely not seeing the same reality. i'll stick with the satanists and the heathens. halleujah and amen.

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    DNA, I understand how you feel. I hate the social deterioration that is happening too. But I think that more tolerance for the marginalized is a good thing.

    I like to keep my eye on the ball. Top down class war has been raging for decades along with the mass slaughter of innocents in foreign lands. There is always a reframing of these realities as something positive and good (Gordon Gecko - Greed is good for example) and when that ceases working a distraction is whipped up that keeps the great unwashed in confused turmoil, lashing out at each other. Radio and Internet shock jocks are a big part of the problem. They bulls*** and people believe them.

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    Quote Posted by Nenuphar (here)
    I would be interested to know how many of those who have posted either are transgender/gender fluid themselves, or who have close family members who are.
    I didn't even understand those terms when I started this thread. Someone just explained it to me yesterday.

    I don't know anybody who has brought up those terms. (Family or friends)

    Also, I don't watch tv or listen to radio. I read books and listen to [old] music. I guess I'm in a time warp.

    It just raised a concern for me when I learned from the link I posted that Planned Parenthood was going to give hormones to kids under 18.

    I was teaching school until 2012. No students ever said anything about being transgender. This is a new push, and it seems to be part of an agenda--not a movement by a new group of people. At least it seems new to me, but I have been sheltered in some ways.

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    MM....I'm a Grandmother & I have been "sheltered" as well! At this stage of the game I see no point in trying to "understand". What I will say is that that particular cover on the Nat Geo magazine was a wake up call for me & I cancelled my subscription!

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    Michelle Marie,

    Where did you read that Planned Parenthood is giving hormones to children?

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Michelle Marie,

    Where did you read that Planned Parenthood is giving hormones to children?

    Hi AutumnW.

    After seeing your post I looked it up on the web, without going back through this thread.

    I found this article on a website I’m unfamiliar with - I’ve copy-pasted a portion of it below. The video (included below) that's posted within the article is from the ‘ABC 7 Sarasota – WWSB’ youtube channel.

    The video appears to include an interview with a member of Planned Parenthood staff explaining :

    We had a lot of parents actually reach out to us, wanting to get care for their, um, for the young people in their lives. So, um, we decided that it was, um, time for us to expand the, um, care we were providing to minors.”

    The article appears biased against this treatment. I’m simply posting the info to answer the question in reply to the above post.

    From my point of view this is a complex and deeply sensitive topic. I wish peace, good health and strength to anyone dealing with transgender issues. I hope they find the love and support, respect, and good guidance they need.

    M

    [ POST UPDATE : Looking back through the thread, I believe this is the same article Michelle Marie posted a link to when she started the thread.]

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    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57881


    Planned Parenthood to Give Children Transgender Hormone Therapy Drugs
    Chris Menahan
    InformationLiberation
    Jan. 29, 2018

    Planned Parenthood has begun offering transgender hormone replacement therapy drugs to minors under the age of 18.

    The media is praising the move as a great leap forward.

    From MySunCoast:

    SARASOTA, FL (WWSB) - Planned Parenthood is hoping to make life a little bit easier for the transgender community. They are now offering transgender hormone replacement therapy for those under the age of 18.

    "We had a lot of parents actually reach out to us wanting to get care for the young people in their lives," said Dr. Suzie Prabhakaran, Vice President of Medical Affairs for Planned Parenthood. "So we decided it was time for us to expand the care that we were providing to minors."



    Planned Parenthood has been providing transgender hormone therapy since October of 2016, but up until now that was for those 18 and older. They say transgender patients have a difficult time accessing care because a lot of doctors can be judgemental of those who are transgender. At Planned Parenthood, it all starts with an initial consultation.

    "We talk to them about their medical history, why they're seeking this care," said Prabhakaran. "Then for most patients it's providing prescriptions for medications that affect the changes they're looking for."
    Planned Parenthood received $543.7 million taxpayer dollars from 2016-2017 which they used to abort 321,384 babies and to donate over $15 million to elect Democrats.

    Studies show the majority of children who think they're "transgender" grow out of it when they hit puberty.

    "There are 12 such studies in all, and they all came to the very same conclusion: the majority of kids cease to feel transgender when they get older," Toronto Sexuality Center Director Dr. James Cantor reported earlier this month.

    ==== POST UPDATE ====

    P.S. I'll just add – I could probably post about ten A4 pages on this topic, and that's without including all the links / references I could think of and explaining them. But I'm not going to inflict that on anyone Also don't have time to write it as well as I'd prefer / it deserves.

    Valuable thread in my opinion. Thanks Michelle Marie, and everyone who's taken time to contribute.
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    I thought it might be useful for me to talk about my personal experiences with transgender people.

    The first transgender person that I ever met was decades ago. I was working in an office in Australia. The person who picked up/delivered the mail was an older transgender female. At the time, I didn’t have any understanding of what it meant to be transgender, but looking back, I recognize the kindness of that employer—to give her a job when likely no one else would.

    Then, more recently, I met a transgender female named Stef Sanjati. At the time, she was presenting as a gay boy. She was quite marginalized-isolated-bullied in that small town environment. To be truthful, I didn’t realize the extent of it or I would have taken steps to protect her more, but at least I was kind and encouraging.

    After high school she went to Toronto to become a makeup artist; gradually came to the understanding that she was not a gay male, but rather a transgender female; and has become a YouTube personality. I have learned a lot from her videos.

    Examples of Stef Sanjati’s videos where she discusses being transgender:

    Transgirl and Mom Q & A 



    Trans Kids: Talking to Your Parents 



    I’m Transgender



    Not all of her videos/tweets are of great substance and sometimes, the language is coarse, but she is young and still finding her way in the world. I believe that she will continue to learn how to use her platform to help others and make a positive difference in the world.

    More recently, I worked in a school where we had at least two transgender students and several who were questioning/gender fluid—less than 1% of the overall school population.

    During the time that I was there, I didn’t see any additional students wanting to be transgender. It’s not like a virus you can catch. The truth is this path is so difficult—so isolating and potentially dangerous—that no teenager is going to choose it unless they are transgender. Teens are young, but they aren’t stupid.

    As far as I could tell, the transgender teens I knew were not undergoing hormone replacement therapy or surgery. For them, it was mostly a case of clothing choices; haircuts; requesting people use the correct pronouns and acknowledge their correct gender. As adults, our main role should be to support them and help them stay safe.

    One of our students was a transgender First Nations’ male. He told me that for Christmas, his father was buying him the piece of under clothing needed to bind his breasts. I thought that was a wonderful way to show love and support for his child as so many transgender kids suffer from body dysphoria. Anything that helps them feel more comfortable in their bodies is a gift.

    Betoobig is correct in stating that native tribes have a long tradition of recognizing “Two Spirited” people. The link below explains this tradition.

    https://rainbowresourcecentre.org/fi...Two-Spirit.pdf

    In one of her videos, Stef makes the comment that no one is advocating that children be given hormones or surgery. She does suggest that parents consider hormone blockers to prevent puberty temporarily because, as Autumn pointed out, the hormones in puberty, especially male ones, can make changes to the body that are hard to reverse. If I were a parent of a transgender child, I would definitely research that.

    She also suggests that hormone replacement therapy begin at 16; I might be more inclined to say 18, but would be open to arguments as to why it should be started earlier.

    As she points out, some transgender people never go on to have Sexual Reassignment Surgery. At 24, she hasn’t had it; instead, she opted for facial surgery that would reverse the effects of male puberty on her face and this has all been documented on her YouTube channel. 

    Autumn is correct in stating that gender is not the same as sexual orientation. In other words, a transgender female can be heterosexual or a lesbian; a transgender male can be straight or gay.

    Is there a push on by the mainstream media/globalists to use transgender people for their own purposes? Maybe.

    Have there always been transgender people? My guess, based on the fact that native tribes have long had a word for it, is yes. I suspect that years ago, many of them likely presented as gay people and like them, had to keep their true selves hidden.

    Is the number of transgender people increasing? Maybe. If so, is it because the population on the planet is increasing or is it due to something in the environment? I’m not sure. My best guess is that something might be happening in the womb before the child is born. 

    UFO researcher Mary Rodwell has a theory that some Starseeds are choosing to come in as Autistic children in order to avoid being programmed. I’ve wondered whether this might also be true of transgender children?

    What I do know for sure is that we are meant to love and be kind to one another. I hope this post has helped put a human face on this controversial subject. Although I’m not a gay or transgender person, I’ve found it useful to meet them personally, listen to their stories and reflect on what it must be like to walk in their shoes.
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