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    Lightbulb Taurine for Macular Degeneration, Enlarged Heart (Heart Failure), Gallstones?

    Certain types of heart disease and blindness may be effectively treated. Read-on please, the rest of the thread contains very valuable observations that Taurine, may well be a missing-link, key to our physical and mental health.

    A common denominator in all the above (title) - there is a deficiency of L-Taurine in the diet. Certain types of heart disease and blindness may be effectively treated with a simple amino acid supplement.

    Cats for instance without Taurine in their diet die pretty fast - what happens? Organ failure, brain failure, enlarged hearts, and they go blind..

    And Taurine is found to be extremely high in the retinas. Without it the retina dies, starting at the center working its way to the outside - (describing Macular Degeneration, a leading cause of old-age related blindness).

    Taurine needs go up when subjected to stress. Taurine deficiency could also be present with a pure vegetarian diet, although humans are able to produce taurine in some amounts naturally by breaking down foods. Cats can't survive without that supplement.

    Is it toxic in excessive amounts? Some studies say don't over-do it, and some studies say since it is a water soluble vitamin, the body will use what it needs and then the extra amount will clear thru the urine.

    What could be depleting Taurine in the body? Fluorides for one. (http://www.pathophysiologyjournal.co...027-8/fulltext) - The primary substance to deal with fluoride is TAURINE..

    So what happens, we are "fluoride supplemented" to protect our teeth and the end result is the child ends up "blind" as an elderly adult.. (although macular degeneration CAN happen in younger folk too).

    I took a look at a series of over the counter "vitamins" and didn't find ANY taurine in it. Odd..

    I did see that taurine supplements are not recommended for children (but fluoride is? odd)..

    Taurine costs are pretty reasonable, - a 500 milligram size (for an average adult) costs about 0.09 to 0.10 (9-10 cents) each.

    And if one has had a massive level of fluorided water, one may find weakness, shortness of breath, and on chest x-rays, an enlarged heart may be found. With cats, getting enough taurine levels back up and the heart starts to reduce in size to NORMAL ! (amazing miracle there..)

    Do humans have high stress levels? Do people who have had fluoride dosing (by helpful water supplies provided to the 'community' by the tap water they ingest) have higher incidence of disease? Are those people supplementing with eating raw organ meats (proper source of taurine for omnivores/carnivores) ? Are those people getting heart disease, tooth and gum disease (having false teeth put in, and towards the later years, start to go blind (things get dim, then the center-retina-blindness starts in, macular degeneration), and folks then mentally and physically fall apart.

    And taurine is the missing link, that which the body uses to deal with the issues... And taurine is with-held from "modern society".

    Cats especially need increases in Taurine when under stress, surgery, "battle" and survival issues.. Cats get their taurine from killing and eating raw their prey. Taurine is destroyed by heat/cooking.

    I have a feeling, that humans are being depleted of Taurine deliberately (maybe stupidly, dunno) and dosed with fluorides, which taurine is the only amino acid supplement which is shown to detoxify the damage of fluoride and the end result is what we are seeing. Humans with heart disease, humans with organ failure, humans going blind (macular degeneration).

    With cats, getting taurine levels up fast, and an enlarged heart can return to normal, and the organ failure they could be experiencing REVERSES.

    I'm connecting dots here. I haven't seen others yet connect these dots, that macular degeneration/blindness in humans can be corrected in such an easy manner.. (and apparently, MANY OTHER diseases, including tinnitus !, can be treated, maybe 'cured'(?) )

    It doesn't seem that Taurine supplementation will hurt, in non-excessive dosing.. and it may be a miracle treatment for some of the most scary issues that the elderly run into...

    Macular degeneration is considered "in-curable". Wouldn't it be interesting if there could be shown, with taurine supplementation, and dealing with fluoride toxicity, vision may be restored? Enlarged hearts could be restored?

    Just wondering out loud.. these 'dots' need to be looked at.

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    50 x 500mg capsules. L-Taurine is an amino acid best known for empowering bile acids that clear cholesterol from the body.

    L-Taurine can also help with gallstones, macular degeneration in the retina and epilepsy.

    L-Taurine can lower blood pressure and help shield the heart from harm and fight cellular troublemakers that can damage the heart.

    L-Taurine is also important to the development of the central and visual nervous systems and can help to offset the effects of drinking alcohol on the brain.

    L-Taurine is found in meat and other animal products. People who are strict vegetarians, who consume no meat products, need to supplement their Taurine intake.
    ref: https://www.lovelyhealth.com/index.php/l-taurine.html
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    From Mercola - on Taurine

    Quote Taurine is an antioxidant amino acid that stabilizes cell membranes, particularly the cells of the skeletal muscle, the heart, the central nervous system, and white blood cells. Taurine makes the cells of the body more resilient to free radical attack. Although a minimal level of taurine is included in foods, taurine is easily depleted in stressed pets or pets with intestinal dysfunction. Taurine plays a very important role in neutralizing toxins produced by dysbiotic bacteria in the gut. This amino acid is also very important in the metabolism and excretion of xenobiotics.

    Taurine is also an important component of bile, which the body produces to digest fat. Adequate bile production is critical for killing intestinal parasites and yeast, and assists in the removal of fat-soluble toxins and oxidized cholesterol.
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    From Life Extension Research - http://www.lifeextension.com/magazin...aurine/page-01 (Great article !)

    Quote The Japanese have a life expectancy that is among the highest in the world. In fact, Okinawa, Japan’s famous “Island of Longevity,” likely has the world’s highest percentage of people over 100 years old.

    Undoubtedly, there are many factors that play into the life spans of the longest-living populations, but evidence shows that they all have one thing in common: high dietary intake of an amino acid called taurine.

    The connection between taurine and a long life is so strong that researchers have dubbed taurine, “The nutritional factor for the longevity of the Japanese.”

    Taurine promotes cardiovascular health, insulin sensitivity, electrolyte balance, hearing function, and immune modulation. In animal research, taurine protected against heart failure, reducing mortality by nearly 80%.

    Its benefits are so broad and extensive that scientists have described taurine as “a wonder molecule.”

    Taurine is found abundantly in healthy bodies. However, certain diets, particularly vegetarian or vegan diets, lack adequate amounts of taurine. Disease states—including liver, kidney, or heart failure, diabetes, and cancer—can all cause a deficiency in taurine. And aging bodies often cannot internally produce an optimal amount of taurine, making supplementation vital.

    That’s why those interested in longevity should consider this vital and super low-cost nutrient. In this article, you’ll learn how boosting taurine levels can contribute to better cardiovascular, metabolic, and neurologic health.

    Why We Need Supplemental Taurine

    In the enthusiasm to investigate new longevity compounds, sometimes the importance of venerable ones that have been around for decades is forgotten. Such is the case of taurine. Foundation members used to get taurine as part of multi-nutrient formula, but this product is not as popular as it once was.

    A study released in November 2012 made the bold statement that taurine is one of the most essential substances in the body. The authors wrote: “Considering its broad distribution, its many cytoprotective attributes, and its functional significance in cell development, nutrition, and survival, taurine is undoubtedly one of the most essential substances in the body.”

    Although it’s possible for your body to produce taurine on its own, you still need to obtain taurine through diet and supplementation in order to achieve optimal amounts of this essential nutrient.

    Because of taurine’s essential role in the body, supplementing with taurine can provide numerous health benefits, including restoring insulin sensitivity, mitigating diabetic complications, reversing cardiovascular disease factors, preventing and treating fatty liver disease, alleviating seizures, reversing tinnitus, and more.

    Taurine Prevents Obesity

    One of the ways taurine can help improve overall health is by fighting obesity. Obesity impacts every area of the body, especially because of the inflammation-generating abdominal fat stores. Human studies show that 3 grams per day of taurine for 7 weeks reduced body weight significantly in a group of overweight or obese (but not-yet-diabetic) adults. Subjects saw significant declines in their serum triglycerides and “atherogenic index,” a ratio of multiple cholesterol components that predicts atherosclerosis risk.

    Various animal studies support the anti-obesity and lipid-lowering capabilities of taurine, both alone and combined with other natural products. These studies highlight taurine’s ability to improve glucose tolerance in obese animals, an important benefit given how many overweight people go on to develop diabetes.

    Perhaps most alarming, animal research reveals that obesity itself causes a decline in plasma taurine levels, which, in a vicious cycle, further promotes obesity. The observed decline in taurine levels was seen in mouse models of both genetic obesity and diet-induced obesity. Fortunately, in the same study, taurine supplementation interrupted the cycle, helping to prevent obesity and its consequences.

    Taurine Promotes Glucose Control—and Treats Diabetes

    It is a known fact that taurine concentrations are lower among diabetics than they are in healthy individuals. Given the above information about low taurine levels promoting obesity, it is clear that the low levels of taurine only serve to promote the interdependence of diabetes and obesity. Fortunately, human studies have shown that supplementing with just 1.5 grams of taurine a day can restore taurine levels to those in healthy control subjects, and additional animal research has shown that taurine supplementation can help prevent the onset of type II diabetes.

    Normal taurine concentrations are essential in controlling diabetes and the impact of its consequences. Animal studies have found that having adequate taurine concentrations helps control diabetes by reducing blood glucose and restoring insulin sensitivity. But it doesn’t stop there. Taurine helps prevent—and even reverse—many of the consequences associated with the disease.

    For example, in adult diabetics, supplementation with 1.5 grams of taurine daily for just 14 days can reverse diabetes-induced abnormalities in arterial stiffness and in the ability of the vasculature to respond to changes in blood flow or pressure. This can be critical to the longevity of diabetics, since these types of abnormalities are to blame for diabetics’ increased risk of dying from cardiovascular disease. In addition, studies in diabetic rats show that taurine helps protect heart function and helps prevent heart muscle damage, due in part to the ability of taurine to increase glucose transport from blood into energy-hungry heart muscle cells. In the process of increasing glucose transport into energy producing cells, blood glucose levels are lowered.

    Additional animal and cell culture studies have revealed that taurine supplementation is effective against diabetic complications as well. Taurine supports nerve fiber integrity, potentially slowing or reversing painful diabetic neuropathy. And in the retina, another target of destructive elevated blood glucose, taurine fights glucose-induced oxidant stress and preserves the health of light-sensing cells in diabetic retinopathy. Kidney damage, another consequence of diabetes, can be minimized with taurine supplementation in diabetic animals.
    AND our foods are woefully over-processed to remove taurine, heat (cooking) destroys taurine. And it is not supplemented in the over-the-counter "vitamins".

    AND we are given toxins (Fluorides) which make the body use up ALL the taurine trying to deal with the poisons..

    Interesting? Connecting dots? And we die, from "eating" what we think is good food (its not when provided by "big pharma, or big industry")... And we then "feed the medical establishment" to 'treat' and maintain our maladies. Sounds like racketeering to me..
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    Great info Bob. I'm getting some.

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    Quote Posted by Desire (here)
    Great info Bob. I'm getting some.
    The Life Extension Research article (above, especially describes dose levels, AND some amazing things that are touched base on - overweight, pre-diabetes, numerous types of organ failures, oddities like gall bladder disease).. that article is amazing..
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    Who these days doesn't have some measure of Tinnitus? Look at the data on Taurine and Tinnitus - very interesting stuff..

    Taurine Helps Reverse Tinnitus

    Taurine plays a vital role in hearing. In fact, studies have found that in some cases, taurine can reverse the biochemical processes behind hearing loss. Other studies have demonstrated that taurine can almost completely eliminate the ringing in the ears associated with tinnitus.

    Much of the damage to hearing occurs not in the mechanical parts of the ear, but rather in the nerve cells that convert sound waves into the electrical energy that is perceived in our brains. Like other nerve cells, these so-called “hair cells” depend on the flow of calcium ions into and out of the cell. Taurine helps restore and control normal calcium ion flow in auditory cells.

    Taurine improves the hearing ability in animals exposed to drugs like the antibiotic gentamicin, which is notoriously toxic to hearing. And in a boon for the 17% of us troubled by chronic tinnitus (ringing in the ears), taurine may be helpful in quieting the noise.

    Animal studies using human equivalent doses of 700 mg to 3.2 grams per day of taurine over the course of several weeks demonstrate near-complete resolution of tinnitus with taurine supplementation (the animals had been trained in tasks that are sensitive to distraction by tinnitus). And a human pilot study has shown encouraging results, with 12% of people responding to taurine supplementation.

    --- Wow..
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    Need more information - here is a list of 80 references (Life Extension Research provided this list)

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    It seems to me, that this substance, this amazing amino-acid supplement, Taurine, something that many pharmacists and conventional doctors have most likely NEVER heard of (probably for a good reason if we were to follow the health conspiracy), is most likely something which will due to its extremely low cost and seeming ability to assist with numerous issues, help many.

    An elderly body, without the proper nutrients needed to regenerate starts to collapse. Would Taurine also trigger the built-in repair mechanisms (within our DNA, our Gene Code) for the body? If the mind is sound, wouldn't having more years to gain more skills and wisdoms be worth it to pass onto our children, grand-children and great grand children? Why not?
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    The Study on Taurine to clear fluoride induced toxicity (Fluoride is a poison, taurine clears it).

    http://www.pathophysiologyjournal.co...027-8/fulltext

    "taurine protects mouse hepatocytes (liver cells) against fluoride-induced cytotoxity."

    Along with other toxic effects, fluoride accumulation induces oxidative stress causing significant alternation in the activities of some enzymes.

    Taurine usually exhibited protective action in vitro at various concentrations depending on the nature of toxicity.

    Taurine has been shown to be involved in many important functions including neuro development, membrane stabilization, detoxification, antiarrythmic action, regulation of calcium homeostasis, anticonvulsion, protein phosphorylation and antioxidation.

    (People have been having arrythmias increase in recent years, and medicos have been prescribing highly toxic drugs advocating cardiac surgery (burning/damaging pacing tissues), all that may have been needed is to start Taurine supplementation in the proper amounts to revert the damage, clear the toxins)

    quick summary - Taurine provided cyto-protection against fluoride induced toxicity.
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    Worried about 'everything', world coming to the end, economy crashing, etc..

    It could be one is deficient in Taurine.

    Article from http://theconversation.com/what-is-t...sychosis-68747 - "The Conversation"

    (Getting off the psych drugs..)

    Quote In our recent study, published in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, we tested whether supplementing standard treatment with taurine would improve cognition and other mental health symptoms in young people who had experienced their first psychotic episode.

    A psychotic episode is an episode of psychosis, an umbrella term that represents a range of severe mental health symptoms.

    The most notable is a loss of contact with reality where someone perceives things that are not real (known as hallucinations) or holds beliefs not based in reality (known as delusions).

    Our results showed people given taurine had significantly improved overall mental health symptoms, including those of psychosis, compared to those given placebo. People given taurine also showed improvement in depression symptoms and overall social and occupational functioning.

    People experiencing psychosis commonly have impairments in cognitive function including reduced concentration, memory, and problem solving ability. We found no difference in cognitive function between the group given taurine and placebo.

    But taurine was found to be both safe and well tolerated.

    Antipsychotic medication is the first line treatment for psychosis, but it is not always effective, with a proportion of patients experiencing ongoing symptoms or unwanted side effects.
    ... and

    Quote A study conducted in 1977 suggested taurine may help reduce severe psychiatric symptoms such as delirium, hallucinations and mental impairment.

    In the study, 22 patients undergoing treatment for alcohol withdrawal were given one gram of taurine three times a day over seven days. They experienced fewer psychiatric symptoms compared to a historical comparison group who hadn’t received taurine.

    Taurine concentrations have been shown to be decreased in people with schizophrenia, a condition in which people experience constant symptoms of psychosis. Higher levels of taurine in the frontal cortex – an area of the brain associated with cognition – of people with schizophrenia, were found to be associated with better cognitive functioning, specifically faster information processing.

    The effects of taurine have also been tested on patients with health conditions including depression, heart disease, diabetes, growth retardation and an eye disease called retinal degeneration.

    This historical evidence suggested taurine was worth investigating as a potential complementary treatment for first-episode psychosis.
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    OK, I have tinnitus, and have had it since having a firecracker explode near my head when I was 10.

    I tried the Taurine, just a small amount, 500 milligrams about 3 hours ago, and I am experiencing a marked decrease in the multi-spectral 'whistle'. (and I feel a sensation of 'happier' inside, like optimism is a better sensation than cynicism or pessimism)..

    Something is happening in a positive way I think. As I consider myself also overweight for my height, I am eager to see if that can be helped too.

    I'll up the level to the levels suggested by the Life Extension Research group (post 4 above) slowly and look at my weight for the next month..

    (PS - I've also reduced the audio level on my screens and players from 20 down to 8, and even 8 seems a bit 'loud', so there definitely is some improvement in being able to hear better too).

    -- updating --
    Where I lived back east a long time ago and the water was also highly fluorided, and chlorinated (and a bit brackish as the town used relatively contaminated artesian wells for its community water). My first home had of all things, lead pipes until such was replaced with copper pipes but soldered with lead solder.. And the house was painted with lead paint. You can imagine what a 3 year old would do with window sills just inviting one to chew on them.. (strange attraction)..

    Dad died of heart disease plus developed a type of ADHD which he wasn't able to deal with - awful watching that.. At about 14 I started researching what I called anti-aging supplements..

    I found the cysteine compounds and started taking them. I also researched the most potent sulfur based compound stronger than taurine, or even cysteine, and experimented with it. I was able to reverse the damage from the lead and fluorides.. I didn't know about taurine at the time, or I would have used it to help clear the tinnitus.
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    Thanks for all this info, Bob.

    My father went blind from macular degeneration several years before he died. It was pretty tragic and really seemed to break his spirit to go blind. I hope this info you've provided can help someone avoid that fate.

    My father had been taking a pharmaceutical drug (quinidine) for a number of years for a heart condition. At some point they changed him to a different drug without really explaining why. After my father died and as my mother aged, she developed a similar heart condition and asked her doctor if she couldn't just take quinidine, too. She was told that they don't use quinidine anymore, that they have "better drugs now." This prompted me to do some investigating on the internet and I discovered that research on quinidine had determined that it could actually be causative in macular degeneration. No medical personnel every admitted to this, however.

    I'm thinking, based on the info you've provided here, as well as my own thoughts and experience, that there might be certain drugs that actually seriously deplete l-taurine in the body and cause a kind of cascade of problems. And how would any of us know?

    I'm glad to know it seems to be helping your tinnitus. I think I may offer it to a friend who is troubled with tinnitus, too, and maybe try some myself for my eye health.
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    Taurine is good. Vegetarians don't get enough of it. It's often paired with Coq10 to treat heart failiure. It cna help calm the nerves too. I've been taking it on and off since 2010. Its safe in reasonable doses. Can help male performance too.

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    Taurine is good. Vegetarians don't get enough of it. It's often paired with Coq10 to treat heart failiure. It cna help calm the nerves too. I've been taking it on and off since 2010. Its safe in reasonable doses. Can help male performance too.

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    Thanks for all this info, Bob.

    My father went blind from macular degeneration several years before he died. It was pretty tragic and really seemed to break his spirit to go blind. I hope this info you've provided can help someone avoid that fate.

    My father had been taking a pharmaceutical drug (quinidine) for a number of years for a heart condition. At some point they changed him to a different drug without really explaining why. As my mother aged, she developed a similar heart condition and asked her doctor if she couldn't just take quinidine, too. She was told that they don't use quinidine anymore, that they have "better drugs now." This prompted me to do some investigating on the internet and I discovered that research on quinidine had determined that it could actually be causative in macular degeneration. No medical personnel every admitted to this, however.

    I'm thinking, based on the info you've provided here, as well as my own thoughts and experience, that there might be certain drugs that actually seriously deplete l-taurine in the body and cause a kind of cascade of problems. And how would any of us know?

    I'm glad to know it seems to be helping your tinnitus. I think I may offer it to a friend who is troubled with tinnitus, too, and maybe try some myself for my eye health.
    Thank you for sharing. (sigh..)

    I do agree certain drugs, and my feelings having seen the studies now of Fluoride what it does, that being present in our water will eventually deplete the essential locations in the body, such as HEART and RETINAS (eye).. I could feel cynical, and believe it was deliberate by someone who realized 100 years ago, if we supplemented with Taurine, we most likely wouldn't be getting sick (adding Ascorbic acid and some Cysteine and Glutamine to our diets..) Medicos would flip out if they lost ALL their business..

    Seems to me, they HAD to put poisons in our drinking water and convince us its good for us. Herve' has created some good Glyphosate threads explaining some of the Monsanto disasters, and I have pointed out the Spider Genes/toxins gene spliced into our foods start creating Leaky Gut Syndrome.. Seems to me, just connecting dots, and understanding CORPORATE GREED, that there is a vested interest out there, to keep people stuck in the medical system.. USING specifically un-education, or stupifying the public - thereby the phd's and medico's can be our masters.. Creating a system where people CAN'T treat themselves - if The People are appropriately aware they wouldn't need the phd's and medico's direction of our very lives and minds..

    Sorry for the soapbox rant.. I am just taken aghast so many times at discoveries so long ago, hidden, and pushed under the carpet, and people die and get stuck pleading with the SYSTEM, trying to figure out how they are going to PAY for mandated "health care" (to be dispensed by the 'system' which keeps us enslaved and crippled)..

    On your mom and dad. Can I assume there is a high fluoride dispersal into the drinking water?

    I just got off the phone today, with a good friend, who lives in a town with very high fluoride dispersal into the water. Both his mom and dad have similar symptoms, from Macular Degeneration to heart diseases.. Both are still alive, and he himself, has had the cardiac arrythmias.. Seems the common denominator is taurine depletion due to fluoride plus extreme stress..
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    Dr. Kuklinski, one of Germans oldest and best experts for vitamins about macular degeneration

    The eye has to be supplied with all substances, that are needed in the eye and that might be missing:

    • Vitamin E containing all 8 vitaminers (wheat germ oil)
    • Zinc and magnesium (they must not be in short supply)
    • Vitamin A
    • Vitamin C
    • Taurine
    • Vitamin B6
    • lecithin (inositol which is a B vitamin in lecithin)
    • Vitamin B1

    Nutrition:
    - consume every day 150 g of kale, spinach or broccoli (they supply the substances lutein and zeaxanthin, which the macula consists of. For the same amount 1 kg of carrots would be needed daily.) (University of Jena, 2012, also doi:10.1016/j.abb.2014.11.012)
    - Low carbohydrate, high in fat

    Curcumin effectively inhibits angiogenesis, unwanted neovascularization, e.g. in cancer, wet macular degeneration

    Thus, macular degeneration, glaucoma can completely disappear.
    With this treatment he has documentated 17 healed patients already several years ago.

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    Don't be sorry for your "rant". You speak the truth unlike the pharmaceutical companies .

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    I've upped the Taurine ingestion today to 500 mg ( a capsule) from a fresh bottle. (the earlier test used a bottle which was a few years old, not past 'expiration' but not fresh).. Within an hour these effects were noted:
    • Left ear which was not closest to the firecracker explosion, is experiencing periods of no multi-spectral whistle (like about 15 kilohertz for me for the top end, and about 10 kilohertz for the low end).., sorta like in waves. Right ear maybe a 25% diminishing of the whistling harmonics
    • Normally late afternoon into evening, if I have been on the computer, or experiencing 'eye strain' I'll get a double vision. Especially after a lot of reading on the computer such as tons of forum posts, there will be a persistent double vision (one image below the other).. Taking off the glasses when the double vision happens, and the extra image is above, the normal image.. I attribute this to muscle strain because of wearing "progressive" corrective lenses (nearsighted/astigmatism).. And my lenses physically are very narrow, not big old wide 60's round style ... So the optical zone for near, mid and far are within 1/4 to 1/2 inch of each other, and the wrong "zone" frequently I use to see thru, making the eye muscles really get stressed.

      Observation - perfect vision right now, no double, and very clear crisp contrasts.. that hardly ever happens on its own..

    Only change 500 mg fresh Taurine (with adequate water).

    I assume the muscle weakness is being addressed by the Taurine supplement.

    2 days testing for such change is pretty fast I think.

    I am eager to suggest the formula that OLAF (post #16 above) posted.

    However Olaf, one would need the correct milligram levels of the substances in your supplement list. Some items can be bio-toxic, I believe, like excessive A or B6. (B6 toxicity, taking too much or the wrong type can induce neuropathy (nerve issues), and/or tingling or finger or leg numbness for instance).. With Vitamin E I have seen mixed experiences with my own experimentation, where a small amount for a day or two is great, but regularly and I get heart issues and "shocky" due to blood pressure being lowered too much (E widens the blood vessels). The right amount of B1 (thiamine) works great, but too much too often I have found will push the other B vitamins out of ratio, and a see-saw happens, and getting stabilized I have found is a bit delicate if the B ratios go out..

    So for me, a suggested dose level, and a duration of such use would be helpful.. Excessive amounts worries me, as well as out-of-balance ratios.. I'll pass that then onto the 3 people that I know with the three conditions (which to me are saying fluoride toxicity, as described in my earlier posts), heart failures/enlarged heart/arrythmias, Macular degeneration, and early onset dementia/Alzheimers-like mind..

    Thanks !
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    Wow! Thanks Bob, amazing thread. Our area is fluoridated, and now is being compromised by the addition of ironore contaminated borehole water, as the fresh lake water we normally get has been commandeered by a local nuclear decontamination place. People are becoming terribly ill, rashes, digestive problems etc. The hardness of the water has increased drastically damaging appliances. Pets are refusing tap water, and aquaria fish have died. United Utilities have tested for quality and insist it’s safe to drink, but when one looks at what they are NOT including in their tests, it’s evident they are hiding something.

    An anti-fluoride expert stated that the fluoridating toxic waste was reacting with the new contaminants causing even more toxicity. This is with our members of Parliament now, and legal issues are arising. Bottom line, they are wanting to bury nuclear waste in unsuitable geological locations, ie unused mines where the water tables are compromised due to seepage between old workings, often undersea. The area they want to build/bury mostly is beneath the fresh water lake, and they need that lake water for a proposed new nuclear power station near the reprocessing plant.
    So, the addition of taurine into the local diet would be amazing. The area has one of the largest obese populations, many many alzheimers/dementia sufferers, and macular degeneration is commonplace. Type 2 diabetes is also commonplace.

    Sorry to seem to go off topic, but I’m also ‘joining the dots’. Thanks again.
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    Default Re: Taurine for Macular Degeneration, Enlarged Heart (Heart Failure), Gallstones?

    I have been taking this multivitamin for 2 months now and its great. Good B complex and antioxidants.
    Will try to add taurine soon...
    Doses seem good...
    https://www.vitashop.ca/multivitamin...120-vcaps.html

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