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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    That word "complicit" is tricky. I don't really think David is deliberately setting out to work with others to deceive us. I think he's just got his wanderlust stuck in a single mode that gathers all things and builds a mental picture with them according to his super "positive" self hypnosis.He seems to have a philosophical block on critical thinking. He somehow classes it as a negative process of mind.

    I think this sums it up perfectly!

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    maybe Dr. Holliday is the real PA-Account of David Wilcock
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    Quote Posted by Indigris (here)
    Has anyone else noticed his lack of wedding ring?
    David Wilcock announces that this is the first valentine’s day in which I’m happily married. @ 35:02. Her name is Beth. I was unable to find the vid where Beth spoke with Jimmy for a couple of minutes.

    FADE to BLACK : CLE 2018 Recap Special w/ David Wilcock : w/ Images

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    I have mixed feelings with regards to DW. No one is perfect so it is wrong to label someone in one way or another due to them making mistakes. Like Sri Yukteswar said in Autobiography of a Yogi: be like the ant on the beach and only pick up the sugar and let the sand grains be.

    IMO DW has spread a great deal of useful information. there is a fantastic article in his blog about military emblems, and many of them look like they indeed reference some SSP. He has had some very good articles on the banksters. He´s featured some pretty interesting and, to me at least, very impressive people in Cosmic Disclousre, like David Adair, William Tompkins, etc.

    On the other hand, I think he hurts his own credibility when referencing Benjamin Fulford, which have made more outlandish claims which failed to materialize than DW. DW has mode some predictions which failed to materialize and should perhaps have been more modest in his presentations. I also find it fascinating how he speaks of spirituality so much, yet seems to be so much caught up into his own ego. To me, this is a mismatch. But who am I to judge, I have my own faults and issues.

    I have never read his books, because he doesn´t strike me as the kind of guy who will do a thorough enough research, he seems to be jumping to conclusions too fast sometimes (I don´t think every plot in Hollywood movies has to have a hidden reference or meaning, I did find some good movies thanks to him though). I have the impression that he means well though, and I think his performance as host in Cosmic Disclosure is excellent and mostly to the point.

    What I would like to see though is DW get together with Dr. Steven Greer. I think that would be an interesting meeting!

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by Indigris (here)
    Has anyone else noticed his lack of wedding ring?
    David Wilcock announces that this is the first valentine’s day in which I’m happily married. @ 35:02. Her name is Beth. I was unable to find the vid where Beth spoke with Jimmy for a couple of minutes.

    FADE to BLACK : CLE 2018 Recap Special w/ David Wilcock : w/ Images

    I stand corrected. Good for him.

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    Here's the deal: aliens, conspiracy, disclosure, and so forth are a form of *escape* for many people...much in the same way so called reality tv is. THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUTH. THEY ARE TRYING TO ESCAPE REALITY, NOT ENGAGE IT. So when they are presented with anything to do with reality, they vigorously resist. This infotainment provides all the elements they need to stay occupied and distracted....and don't you dare take it away from us!

    Mike, Thank you for your keen insight - I most enjoyed your crisp analogies.

    I agree that for manyu people (and at times this include myself) the SSP material may serve as a reality escape just as all addictions do - but I believe there are far more who simply and very sincerely just want the truth in order to better understand the world in which they live and by doing so make more informed/better life choices and become a more positive beacon within their sphere of influence. They are not coming at the material from a place of addiction or need to escape rather they are coming at it motivated to improve themselves and those around them.

    By DW being "willfully obtuse" he has done significant damage within the UFO community (as Bill has stated).

    For the sake of conversation and as much as it pains me to write - I respectfully disagree that DW is being willfully obtuse - If DW has an unusually high IQ and highly developed intuitive skill as he has claimed and demonstrated - then it would be irrational to believe that he was not complicit in the deception.

    Thank you for your input

    Luke
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    I used to LOVE David Wilcocks work. However, I became really confused when I heard Simon Parkes, whom I also really admire, explain why & how David Wilcock & Corey Goode's Blue Avian theory had no validity.
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    Quote Posted by bonnyhut (here)
    I used to LOVE David Wilcocks work. However, I became really confused when I heard Simon Parkes, whom I also really admire, explain why & how David Wilcock & Corey Goode's Blue Avian theory had no validity.

    It's confusing when people we admire contradict each other..which I think is always a nice reminder to always seek our own counsel first.

    And to confuse you even further, I suggest you read some of the Simon Parkes threads here. It may change your opinion of the man.

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    The first time I saw DW was on the Ancient Aliens show. Which "they" did a great job of using that show to put alot of disinfo/misinfo out to the general public.

    At first I was intrigued by his work, until I ran across some of his videos where he claimed that he was the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.

    Anyone at all who has read about Mr. Cayce would know that he was a humble man, he did not seek fame. Contrast that with DW and his massively inflated ego. Maybe he does have some good information to contribute, but its buried so far in the BS and Wilcocks ego that you need a 10 foot pole to get to it.

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    In one sort of way Wilcock is not dissimilar to the recently late Billy Graham. He's a "new age" preacher man, a UFO evangelist. In this mode it becomes less about the message, the truth, and more about fame, book sales, and turning a buck.

    However, he is extremely knowledgable on the subject of UFO's, Earth mysteries, ancient knowledge, etc. And he knows it, he knows it rather well. Wilcock has adopted a sort of messiah complex. I feel he very much wants to save the world. That said, I don't think his heart is in the wrong place, only his head.
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    Quote Posted by bonnyhut (here)
    I used to LOVE David Wilcocks work. However, I became really confused when I heard Simon Parkes, whom I also really admire, explain why & how David Wilcock & Corey Goode's Blue Avian theory had no validity.
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    And to confuse you even further, I suggest you read some of the Simon Parkes threads here. It may change your opinion of the man.
    This is a good place to start: Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    Wilcock is the worst type of deceiver mixing some truth with lots of good tasting fiction. Disinformation at its best. Mmmmm. Tastes good like disinformation should.

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    David is no saint. He has a massive ego that was evident even back when Bill interviewed him.
    I disliked him then for that. But his dialogue at the time was not as interesting as it is now.

    I think we all know that there is not much doubt that there is a secret space program. What it is called and what is the extent of their reach and who is actually involved and what group keeps the lid on it and in what direction they are affiliated is all up in the air. No one knows the answer to these pertinent questions.

    But that the entire solar system is undergoing a significant heating and that the mechanics of that heating are not attributable to the normal physics of the sun, is also quite clear. And in keeping with the idea that this heating is extra-solar or inter-stellar in nature, is upheld by the observations of the outer-most planets.
    The obvious geometrical underpinnings of these warming planets further support his theories.

    I get it. A person who upholds dubious data and third-party information is suspect. Once suspect, it is far harder to believe anything else from them.

    Still, with enough discernment and if one knows their cosmology, which is so full of holes as to be far more suspect than an outsider proposing new possibilities, imo, is also not serving the highest good.

    Character assassination is uncalled for. It does not serve.

    I can attest to this, David Wilcock is on our side. It's okay to make money with novel ideas. I applaud him for his efforts and find that his massive amount of knowledge is impressive. It is not that surprising that some of it is flawed. We are all working in the dark, with half truths and inuendos as signposts.

    We all are lost. Thank goodness for people like David, brave enough to put himself on the line and tell us how he sees things.

    He has helped me understand things better.

    Thanks David. Keep up the good fight.
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    Quote Posted by bonnyhut (here)
    I used to LOVE David Wilcocks work. However, I became really confused when I heard Simon Parkes, whom I also really admire, explain why & how David Wilcock & Corey Goode's Blue Avian theory had no validity.

    Oh dear......Simon Parke's Demon Preying Mantis Alien father turned out to be a "bad influence".....So Simon doesn't like Corey Goode's Blue Bird Space Buddies?
    ....I really have nothing more to add to my observation.

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    DW, CG, SP, US are all props/actors/participants/part of this looong and now crazy film.
    I'm waiting for the Editors Cut.
    hopefully coming soon
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    Wilcock, Parkes, Goode, Meier, Adamski, Romanek, etc

    I question those sorts and I've lost interest in them a long time ago. I think we give out too much time to them.
    I want to stick to facts and evidence and multiple witnesses. And when I say multiple witnesses, I mean at least 4 people seeing/witnessing the same thing.

    Ufology is NOT a religion. And Wilcock, Parkes, Goode, Adamski seem to turn this into a religion. It's not always their fault.

    I have no respect or time for religion and buying books about what just one person believes is not for me.

    Only facts and evidence I'm interested in. I don't mind theories but theories based on evidence.

    Leslie Kean, John E Mack, Richard D Hall, Stephen Bassett, Grant Cameron and Richard Dolan I will listen to. Attentively.
    Those people are the real deal. And none of them behave like a messiah who wants followers. They are the detectives of Ufology. The others are like priests and I won't ever leave my daughter with a priest.

    It's a bit like Greer. If you read his 1st book. It's amazing. It's all about witnesses, testimonies by military personnel, scientists who would testify under oath in congress, declassified documents. But his other books are so boring and with little evidence.

    I've become more and more sceptical when it comes to such people like Wilcock through the years. Some of them are very damaging to Ufology.
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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    DW, CG, SP, US are all props/actors/participants/part of this looong and now crazy film.
    I'm waiting for the Editors Cut.
    hopefully coming soon
    Lol, crayz film indeed. Like to feel that most of us, in this life time, will find out the CG rooster truth, the DW show was very good imo until the Crayz film with CG started, but i wonder usually is there any truth, any at all to the combined DW and CG film because surely its too far out, is it as far out as Ickes reptilian verbal all those years ago for instance _.

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    I think DW is a conartist! A likable & very smart person but still a shameless Conartist. In this case throw the baby out with the bathwater!

    Maya Angelou: "When somebody shows you who they are believe them."
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    Quote Posted by Vernaianawa (here)
    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    DW, CG, SP, US are all props/actors/participants/part of this looong and now crazy film.
    I'm waiting for the Editors Cut.
    hopefully coming soon
    Lol, crayz film indeed. Like to feel that most of us, in this life time, will find out the CG rooster truth, the DW show was very good imo until the Crayz film with CG started, but i wonder usually is there any truth, any at all to the combined DW and CG film because surely its too far out, is it as far out as Ickes reptilian verbal all those years ago for instance _.
    Quote but i wonder usually is there any truth, any at all to the combined DW and CG film
    Yes there is truth to some of it, there is truth in their words, that is how they can carry on with their milking of it, all for personal gain/ego.
    It is also part of the orchestrated discrediting of the revealed truths.

    Quote surely its too far out, is it as far out as Ickes reptilian verbal all those years ago for instance
    David hasn't stop, it's still on going and in my view a real thing.
    Was real in the very distant past, in the not so distant past and in the present, we are being controlled and we don't see it or them (Well rarely)

    PS the props/actors/participants/part of this looong and now crazy film is not just relating to DW, CG it's to the whole world as we see it, to our history and prehistory/s
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    As integrity is the quality in any person I value the most, I just honestly can't bring myself to appreciate Wilcock anymore. Or couldn't have ever since he joined with Goode. He has fallen the trap of the ego which has overridden the search for truth. Money and fame becomes more important and they are in it more for the selfish gain which is sadly quite common human fallacy. A person can be intelligent, but naive/ignorant at the same time. Is he deceptive? Still not sure, but being ignorant doesn't let him off the hook. I still have his two books and they contained good research, for what it's worth.
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