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    Hello

    I have been an avid follower of Mr. Wilcock for over a decade - I follow the blog, bought all the products, read all the books, been to the weekend seminars and have watched all the DW Gaiam content. I find DW to be one of greatest communicators of universal truths both scientific and spiritual on the planet today; hence I am perplexed at the recent criticism of his association with Mr. Goode and Mr. Emery espoused by Bill and forum members

    I realize that DW is human and I have major issues with his ignorant criticism of David Icke's work, the ridiculous crying episode on Kerry's radio which just happened to coincide with the release of his book " The Source Field Investigations." and I was also disappointed with his recent shameless name drop of the open lucifarian Steven Tyler.

    But now the recent push back regarding the aforementioned "insiders" has me seriously questioning his integrity, motives and future intentions.

    My delimna is as follows:

    1. If Bill is correct in his assessment of Mr. Goode and Mr Emery this would mean that David is complicit in the deception and is likely comprimised as a source of SSP information. ( I agree with Richard Dolan - what he is delivering is not INTEL or testimony - it is simply information as it has no proof attatched).

    2. I am a successful dowser and when I use this tool to evaluate the situation I begrudgingly come up with DW being intentionally deceptive regarding important aspects of the CG and ES information.

    3. DW's deception is somewhat upsetting as I am deeply connected/attatched to DW's body of work. The reason I am upset is, I have invested a lot of time, effort, energy studying the incredible body of work and want to believe that the source of that material is of high moral character.

    If one preaches the prominence of being in service to others then that person is obliged to act in accord in order to be considered worthy of being heard.

    My questions are for Only forum members who have studied DW's work and are as follows:

    1. I would like your honest opinion of DW's credibility in light of the CG and ES deception.
    2. How does or should this deception reflect upon the credibility of his future work?
    3. Why is he being deceptive in regards to these aspects of the SSP?
    4. Because DW is likely the biggest draw to Gaiam TV what does this deception convey regarding Gaiam's overall credibility?
    5. What could DW do to regain credibility on subjects related to the SSP and other future projects?
    6. Is DW still a member of this forum?

    Blessings and thanks in advance for your time and consideration

    Dr. Luke Holiday NMD
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    Thanks for the questions!

    If you click on Advanced Search (at the top right of any page) ó or, just click here for the link ó
    And enter Wilcock' as a search term for Thread Titles...



    ... you'll get more threads than I can possibly list here.

    Some of them have asked MUCH the same questions as you have, and there are MANY responses that you may find interesting.

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    39 pages X 20 per page = 780 - 8 (on last page, i.e. pg. 39)
    Total = 772 threads with David Wilcock and multiple posts within each thread.

    That's a lot of DW.


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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    Listen I feel your pain! I've enjoyed a few of David's books myself. As an avid researcher, I was drawn to the scientific data he provided. I don't have time to walk 'the halls of science' so having access to his findings in a one stop shop via a book, was helpful and appreciated. I went to one of his weekend seminars long ago and enjoyed it immensely. I too am disappointed in his allegiance to this Corey Goode fantastical nonsense. I no longer spend time on his work, however if a book of his looked like it had enough significant scientific research I could be swayed to buy it(used of course). GAIA should be watched with caution, each program carefully scrutinized to the best of one's abilities. I have found ties to 'deep state' via the UNITED NATIONS and GAIA, enough to raise red flags having me think, wtf.....

    I understand your frustration. Do the best you can to use discernment when dealing with David's work or anything on GAIA. At this point, imo, he leaves the impression he's sold his soul by aligning with the wrong kind of people. Why GAIA is pumping millions of dollars into the 'Corey Storey' is beyond me. It appears to be the same as Krab, spelled with a 'K'....'artificial' minus the intelligence, lmao.
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    Steven Tyler is a lucifarian?

    I don't think David Wilcock was ever a member here.

    I saw this phrase in print several years back: "willfully obtuse". There are many reasons to be willfully obtuse; it doesn't take too much imagination to think of a few. David Wilcock is a strange mix of mania, megalomania, intelligence, naivete, eloquence, ego, ambition, and stupidity. I don't know if he's been outright complicit in any deception, but I would certainly say he has been willfully obtuse.

    I think he, and Gaia, have compartmentalized any doubt they must have in favor of ambition and ego. And money. In other words, they are adept at inventing excuses to justify their involvement so the show can go on. This is my armchair psychology.

    It's easy to invent excuses when things are going well, when business is good.

    When the train goes off the tracks, and it likely will at some point, my guess is that they will lose their ambition to self justify, and will maybe even be contrite (in the same disingenuous way all people who get caught doing something unscrupulous are). "We're only human", "we were only trying to help", "we're not perfect" ...we'll hear plenty of that and various other forms of victim-speak as they try to garner sympathy in hopes that they might have a second act somewhere down the line..

    And they likely will have a second act. Maybe even a 3rd and a 4th. The alt community has a pretty poor memory. David Wilcock for example has made quite a few bold and *wrong* predictions. He desperately wants to be the 'I told you so' guy. No one paying their monthly fee over at Cosmic Disclosure seems to mind.

    Here's the deal: aliens, conspiracy, disclosure, and so forth are a form of *escape* for many people...much in the same way so called reality tv is. THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUTH. THEY ARE TRYING TO ESCAPE REALITY, NOT ENGAGE IT. So when they are presented with anything to do with reality, they vigorously resist. This infotainment provides all the elements they need to stay occupied and distracted....and don't you dare take it away from us!

    This is the phenomena I'm witnessing here with Goode, DW, Gaia, and all the rest of the idiots
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    I regret writing so much in my previous post, but I'll add this one small thing here...

    My little 7 yr old niece will sometimes tell me to "be scary". So I will. I'll growl and make creepy faces and chase her around the house. She loves it. But there comes a point where she gets too scared, and isn't entirely sure if I'm playing anymore. So I'll drop the act, much to her relief. But within seconds she's smiling and jumping around and begging me to "be scary" again. In a matter of 60 seconds, she gets to feel a wide range of emotions she can't get any other way in such a short period of time: excitement, anticipation, the thrill of the chase, fear, and finally euphoric relief. At her core, she knows it's a game, but the feelings are very real.

    What Goode and Gaia and Wilcock provide is the adult version of that.

    It allows bored, intellectually lazy people to feel things they can't get anywhere else. It's like an addiction. It *is* an addiction. But for the thrill ride to work, they have to believe that it's all true, at least obliquely..like my niece does. When exposed to real truth, they get scared, and resist. They don't really want it all to *be* true, they want it to *feel* true just long enough to get their rocks off from the drama.

    It's a weird mind game that Orwell should really be describing, not me.

    Anyway, you asked about Wilcock's credibility, and I would counter that it's almost meaningless to the people that continue to support him. In fact, the more credible he became, the less useful he'd be to that crowd..for all the reasons I mentioned above. It would be bad for business for him to be credible..in the way that someone like Richard Dolan is credible. So there's no motivation for him or his supporters to change anything at all..
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    I should say something here personally. I used to know David quite well, when he was far less confident, much more measured and grounded, and far less egotistical.

    In the last three years, he's done ufology (and the serious study of the Secret Space Program) a significant amount of damage. But I don't believe he'll ever be able to acknowledge that.

    He has to be the guy who's right. And I've never known him once to admit being wrong.

    If one searches all the threads on the Avalon forum discussing him (but there's quite a lot to search in!) one can find me pointing out a few things from time to time.

    But a good, brief summary may be well represented in my recent post here, where I replied:

    ~~~

    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    It begs the question, is David this dumb to promote these hoaxers or is he willingly part of the problem too?
    Both, in a sense. He's far too credulous, never fact-checks in any way worthy of the name, and so badly always wants to be the superstar hero bringing all this to public knowledge and recognition.
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    > 1. I would like your honest opinion of DW's credibility in light of the CG and ES deception.

    He is gullible. We all can be, but he seems to not do rigorous discernment.

    We can all be tricked, and because he gets a big following, he is targeted for more trickery than most and he appears to have personality traits that make that easy.

    > 2. How does or should this deception reflect upon the credibility of his future work?

    Can't be good! Which I think is an objective of those manipulating the show. Ultimately I think we will forgive him once the game and the forces at play are more understood.


    >3. Why is he being deceptive in regards to these aspects of the SSP?

    Loaded question, especially as I don't think it is intentional.

    Dont have anything to say on the last three items.

    Luke, I would appreciate you dowsing my responses to 1-3 and sharing your result
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    He's part of the problem now

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    That word "complicit" is tricky.

    I don't really think David is deliberately setting out to work with others to deceive us. I think he's just got his wanderlust stuck in a single mode that gathers all things and builds a mental picture with them according to his super "positive" self hypnosis.

    He seems to have a philosophical block on critical thinking. He somehow classes it as a negative process of mind. His mentallity functions best when it's working solo researching outside the box, he's brilliant at that, or at least he was at one time. He could put it all down in a book and people could take it for what it was, food for thought.

    His involvement with so called insiders and whistle blowers is hopelessly out of his zone. He's just not mentally equipped to do it responsibly.

    Two or more liars using the internet to "fact-check" each others stories does not make a truth.
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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    My questions are for Only forum members who have studied DW's work and are as follows:

    1. I would like your honest opinion of DW's credibility in light of the CG and ES deception.

    He lost me when CG started, I followed him for years, read his first 3 books, that's it for me.

    2. How does or should this deception reflect upon the credibility of his future work?

    He used to "sound" very credible, once fact checked, a lot falls apart. I don't give him much credibility now or for the future.

    3. Why is he being deceptive in regards to these aspects of the SSP?

    I think he is just that gullible, and then he started riding the rockstar wave, now he can't get off...

    4. Because DW is likely the biggest draw to Gaiam TV what does this deception convey regarding Gaiam's overall credibility?

    Too bad, Wisdom teachings started off with a bang, now it's all just BS, same for that aspect of Gaiam. The rest of Gaiam is what it used to be.

    5. What could DW do to regain credibility on subjects related to the SSP and other future projects?

    I don't think he can climb back up, he's too far down in this hole, although he will still have his blind followers.


    Too bad, I remember when I watched the Petersen interviews, he seemed inquisitive and intelligent. Part of the reason why I listened to him for a while, now it's over...

    Thanks for the thread, good subject to square away!

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    The guy can sell you anything.
    If and only if you are that desperate!

    I remember about 14-15 yrs ago, I used to get so excited when he came out with a new 2-3 hrs podcast, or whatever it was called at the time.
    I would shut the phone, get a coffee and get concenrated as he did put much info in there and did not want to miss a beat.
    His info would then constitute the foundation on which I would build everything else.
    It took a few years to understand that his info was not really fitting with my developing sense of intuition.
    Ben Fulford did the same ....
    Then David got into specific predictions that never made it and that was what woke me up from the dream.

    Its not that its 100% bullcrap, in fact, he is very clever.
    He mixes many facts and brings them up a dimension..
    I actually think he himself thinks he holds the truth.
    To deliver like he does, at some point you need to believe it yourself.

    In the end, I don't sit and listen anymore, once in a while I will see what he is up to, for a few minutes and thats about it.
    I don't claim to hold the truth myself and so I still need to be open and not fully shut him off.
    Its just that I learned lots from that episode, so in that sense I have to thank him for that!

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    I know you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but...
    To me, he has always seemed "sketchy" since first reading his material sometime around 2010-2011 or thereabouts.
    Now that I've seen him (surprisingly enough to me) on the History Channel, I really get turned off and change the channel to watch comedy.
    I seriously doubt that he writes his own material and believe he is being spoon fed with an ulterior motive of some sort...

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    I followed Corey Goode for s short time on Avalon but quickly stopped after he dodged any questions which might expose him.

    Iíve never followed David Wilcox because I set my common sense and intuition on high especially with the amount of deliberate misinformation that is spread around today

    Weíve all probably been misled at some point so I question everything until I get multiple confirmations and it makes sense to me; even then I could be wrong.

    If something sounds outlandish or the information is confusing or if someone takes an hour to tell me nothing then alarm bells should sound.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I should say something here personally. I used to know David quite well, when he was far less confident, much more measured and grounded, and far less egotistical.

    In the last three years, he's done ufology (and the serious study of the Secret Space Program) a significant amount of damage. But I don't believe he'll ever be able to acknowledge that.

    He has to be the guy who's right. And I've never known him once to admit being wrong.

    If one searches all the threads on the Avalon forum discussing him (but there's quite a lot to search in!) one can find me pointing out a few things from time to time.

    But a good, brief summary may be well represented in my recent post here, where I replied:

    ~~~

    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    It begs the question, is David this dumb to promote these hoaxers or is he willingly part of the problem too?
    Both, in a sense. He's far too credulous, never fact-checks in any way worthy of the name, and so badly always wants to be the superstar hero bringing all this to public knowledge and recognition.
    That is why I think the exposure of his lack of fact checking here at Avalon is so valuable. David's answer to the critique that he has no proof for the more fantastic elements of his stories is always:

    1. I have an extensive fact checking and vetting process that proves that the information I am getting is true.
    2. If you can't believe that the situation on the planet right now is actually positive, and that everything I am saying is true, no matter how crazy it sounds, it is because you have succumbed to negativity and fear. A seeming spiritual failure if I understand his view.

    #1 Has been proven to be false. #2 is so egotistical and manipulative. When he started saying that years ago is when he lost me.

    I think discernment is a necessary part of spiritual growth. Wisdom and strength are just as important as love and acceptance. It is important to question things that don't make sense, and people get angry when they sense lies regardless of whether they are intentional or not.

    People are getting stirred up by what he is doing not because they are too fear-programmed to believe it, but because it is such a mix of good and bad information.
    Last edited by Saracatt; 21st February 2018 at 17:29. Reason: Thought about it some more.

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    I think the problem with DW is not himself but his sources; I think DW began as a very benevolent, reliable source (many, many truisms- and they were obviously a threat) but because of his lack of self-criticism he could then be easily manipulated due to his ego- so boost his ego- he has been influenced by not so reliable sources who have continued to boost his ego but have lead him down the garden path into the flower bed of incredulity- as the saying goes:

    "pride goeth before destruction"

    sadly- what a waste-

    but I still don't think we should totally throw him under a bus/throw babies out with bathwaters- he still has some positive things to contribute and I think it would be to our detriment if we try to compartmentalize him/everything; life is anything but individually boxed compartmentalizations-

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    He was a very humble, seemingly honest, genuine, gentle and interesting soul on the original Camelot interview I saw of him.

    Seeing him now, the big egomaniacal theatre show full of bull**** clickbait type star he's become, does slightly worry me that I've traversed on to a bizarre and unfavourable timeline.

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    Default Re: Seeking opinions on David Wilcock's credibility

    I don't know much of anything about David Wilcock; my first and only exposure to him came with GAIA.

    Back when I was brand new to the whole ufology/aliens thing (I still am, but you get the point), I saw an ad for CD on YouTube, and they had, at the time, a promotion. 3 months of unlimited content for a dollar.

    So I figured, why not?

    I punched in my card info, and got watching. At the time, CD had only 2 seasons.

    I remember being very skeptical, yet open to the whole thing. I had no issue believing in the possibility of Reptilians and the Canal, and Nordics (which I had first heard about there) and the SSP and all that jazz.

    But there were always things that bothered me. Aside from the lack of actual evidence, there were major points that bugged me:

    1) If this is all so important, as they repeatedly claim, why do you need to pay to see it?

    They since sort of fixed that one; they offer gifted videos, and CG has a full transcript of each episode freely on his website, so you have to give him credit there.

    2) How the hell is he still alive?

    3) He readily admits being a MILAB; how can we trust anything he says, when we know how advanced mind control has become?

    So, with that, here is my opinion on CG and DW and the whole thing.

    I feel that both men are sincere. Now, that does not mean that their information is genuine.

    I think CG got desperate for money after being "outed" and having his career ruined (the man has a family, after all), and I do think that he may be a MILAB. Now, of course one can make up a story. He even did a lot of digging on this forum. I could make up my own testimony, convincingly, after all the research that I have done.

    But even with that, I get a feeling that he's sincere. However, I think he is HEAVILY damaged and compromised, programmed to the nth degree, and is an agent of, at best, confusion, without knowing it (or wanting to).

    Now, as for DW.

    With him, I get the impression that he's a genuinely nice dude, but one with severe self-esteem issues. I think it has a lot to do with his face; let's admit it, you guys, the poor man looks like he got hit by a shovel, hard.

    When you're bullied like that, and at such a young age, it can be very hard, and have very lasting effects. I think his ego is a cover, subconscious, for his frail self-image. He compensates for his lack of "masculinity", his face, etc.

    Despite the fact that I don't trust him (he has far too much bias and is highly gullible), I don't dislike him at all the way I do with some people. I just feel bad for him, really. He seems like a genuinely sweet guy, who just has too many insecurities and issues. GAIA finally gave him the validation I'm sure he's been lacking his whole life. Has anyone else noticed his lack of wedding ring?

    He strikes me as a wife-and-kids kind of guy, so I'm sure that hurts him. Hurt does a lot of damage to a person.

    DW has a sort of lost-puppy innocence to him. I don't think he and CG are deliberately, consciously spreading disinformation. Who knows, they could be stellar actors (as you would expect a disinfo agent to be, no doubt), but my gut is still this; the whole CG thing is just two desperate men who found each other and kind of got into this symbiotic relationship.

    My father pays for GAIA, and I borrow his account to check in on the whole CD thing. I like to keep tabs, and leave no stone unturned. The one thing I've learned at this point is basically this: we humans are f*cked in regards to knowing the truth. We are so childlike and ignorant, that even if we were to meet a Nordic or a spirit or whatever face-to-face, who's to say they are who they say they are?

    Between the PTB, idiots, the inherent limitations of our own brains and 3D ego, and good ol' deception, we truly cannot know anything. We have some people and sources that seem more credulous than others, and likely are. But we have no way of truly knowing.

    I have chosen not to close any more doors. In my pursuit for Truth, if it is even possible, I've got a personal policy to listen to everyone, without outright believing 99% of it all.

    I think there are grains of truth or semi-truths in the CG saga. As with a lot of other stuff out there.

    I still remain neutral, with a bit of a lean towards "bs" (whether deliberate or not) on the CD thing.

    But who knows...maybe it's all true. I doubt it, but then again, I'm just a girl living on Earth. I don't know anything

    The first step to Truth is accepting that, I think.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)

    . . . Anyway, you asked about Wilcock's credibility, and I would counter that it's almost meaningless to the people that continue to support him. In fact, the more credible he became, the less useful he'd be to that crowd..for all the reasons I mentioned above. It would be bad for business for him to be credible..in the way that someone like Richard Dolan is credible. So there's no motivation for him or his supporters to change anything at all..
    From my semi reclusive viewpoint, I find people who are socially successful or successful in business have a lot in common with children in that they still need people to remind them what the limits are. It's a logical match, being still within the red line of others either by charm or craft.

    The fact remains tho' that those people "will get a slap" if they push it too far. Some are not wise enough to avoid a clash, others are incredibly crafty and so increasingly powerful, with it. I mean, look at the so called Cabal. Someone should have given them a slap a long time ago.

    [no children were harmed in writing this]
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    Quote Posted by Luke Holiday (here)
    Hello

    I have been an avid follower of Mr. Wilcock for over a decade - I follow the blog, bought all the products, read all the books, been to the weekend seminars and have watched all the DW Gaiam content. I find DW to be one of greatest communicators of universal truths both scientific and spiritual on the planet today; hence I am perplexed at the recent criticism of his association with Mr. Goode and Mr. Emery espoused by Bill and forum members

    I realize that DW is human and I have major issues with his ignorant criticism of David Icke's work, the ridiculous crying episode on Kerry's radio which just happened to coincide with the release of his book " The Source Field Investigations." and I was also disappointed with his recent shameless name drop of the open lucifarian Steven Tyler.

    But now the recent push back regarding the aforementioned "insiders" has me seriously questioning his integrity, motives and future intentions.

    My delimna is as follows:

    1. If Bill is correct in his assessment of Mr. Goode and Mr Emery this would mean that David is complicit in the deception and is likely comprimised as a source of SSP information. ( I agree with Richard Dolan - what he is delivering is not INTEL or testimony - it is simply information as it has no proof attatched).

    2. I am a successful dowser and when I use this tool to evaluate the situation I begrudgingly come up with DW being intentionally deceptive regarding important aspects of the CG and ES information.

    3. DW's deception is somewhat upsetting as I am deeply connected/attatched to DW's body of work. The reason I am upset is, I have invested a lot of time, effort, energy studying the incredible body of work and want to believe that the source of that material is of high moral character.

    If one preaches the prominence of being in service to others then that person is obliged to act in accord in order to be considered worthy of being heard.

    My questions are for Only forum members who have studied DW's work and are as follows:

    1. I would like your honest opinion of DW's credibility in light of the CG and ES deception.
    2. How does or should this deception reflect upon the credibility of his future work?
    3. Why is he being deceptive in regards to these aspects of the SSP?
    4. Because DW is likely the biggest draw to Gaiam TV what does this deception convey regarding Gaiam's overall credibility?
    5. What could DW do to regain credibility on subjects related to the SSP and other future projects?
    6. Is DW still a member of this forum?

    Blessings and thanks in advance for your time and consideration

    Dr. Luke Holiday NMD
    In response to the above, one question at a time.


    The problems with DWs credibility go a lot further back than CG, Benjamin Fulford was a big enough red flag, BF just picked random points out of the news (usually from sources the public don't read but are publicly available) & then filled the spaces inbetween said items with narrative he conjured out of the air as he went on, non of his claims ever came to pass, but that hasn't stopped him.

    1/ It's not just Bills assessment of CG, it's everyone with an ounce of discernment esp those who have studied the UFO phenomena who realised he was a total fraud from very early on, there are many people who have been milabed & so on & they just don't have that kind of story book narrative, it's just bits & pieces, & PTSD.

    2/ DW has to have been intentionally deceptive about GC, there are just no two ways about it, maybe it was too big a gravy train to turn down ?

    3/ It's understandable that you are upset, you have woken up to being lied to & cheated, & whats more you believed it, so it hurts, that's why there are survivors groups for people who have been in cults, it's not easy !

    Second set of questions;

    1/ Totally sold out, but it's where he was going all along, such things inevitably end like this, he's not the first & wont be the last, it's live by the sword die by the sword, only in his case the "sword" was "occult lite"

    2/ Just don't waste your time or money, & don't look for another guru !

    3/ Because it's a major disinfo campaign & they needed someone like DW to fill in the gaps between the Blavatsky / Bailey lucifarian occult lite cult that always underpins this stuff & the UFO stuff in such a way as it wouldn't seem obvious to those they are trying to ensnare.

    4/ They don't have any credibility, just money & a flashy presence, the money shows that this is a very dubious enterprise, that & the high rollers "they" brought in to manage it ( "they" probably being some alphabet agency )

    5/ He could probably withdraw from the whole CG & his made up SSP thing & go back to being the reincarnation of Cayce...

    6/ ? No idea, he could have an account under any name...


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