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    Default What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Not sure sure if anyone recalls the Italian friendship case of the 50's which seemed to fizzle out? Our forum is way past deciding if there is life out there and the bigger question in my mind is what do you suppose is the reason that ET's are not making themselves more publicly viewed? A mass sighting event or events spread out so that a large number of the public sees might be one way. Some of the advanced species have no fear of our intelligence level and they see our world leaders as nothing to fear. So here it is 2018 and they still haven't come out publicly... Yet many people have witnessed them on a personal level and would love to have their testimony validated someday...

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    As usual the controllers would shoot them down (well try to anyway) and ask questions later. The good guys are not welcome here...although they have superior technology it would become too messy...if mother earth decides to tilt then that would be a different kettle of fish. Soon hey.. ;-)

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

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    Not sure sure if anyone recalls the Italian friendship case of the 50's which seemed to fizzle out? Our forum is way past deciding if there is life out there and the bigger question in my mind is what do you suppose is the reason that ET's are not making themselves more publicly viewed? A mass sighting event or events spread out so that a large number of the public sees might be one way. Some of the advanced species have no fear of our intelligence level and they see our world leaders as nothing to fear. So here it is 2018 and they still haven't come out publicly... Yet many people have witnessed them on a personal level and would love to have their testimony validated someday...
    The Italian 'Friendship' case (and fascinating it is, too):
    Why no mass contact? Excellent question.

    Several answers have been suggested, some of which could apply concurrently... after all, there are surely many different ET groups with different agendas.
    • The cover-up may be being expedited by the ETs themselves — of course. (And equally, they may expedite 'disclosure' any time they see fit.)
    • They may be gradually conditioning us to accept their existence, just as the intel agencies have been: the reality has been continually drip-fed into our cultural awareness for decades now.
    • Some ETs may have our best interests at heart, but the information attached to all of that may be too much for us to handle. (They may have knowledge of major future catastrophes, for instance.)
    • Some ETs may NOT have our best interests at heart, and are acting very covertly. (See Dr David Jacobs' excellent and detailed work on hybrids, as an example.) The adage applies for both ETs and humans: if someone's keeping secrets from you, they're trying to control you.

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Pretty much what Bill said.

    Another possibility remains, of course, that the vast majority of us are simply too primitive/immature as a species for that kind of contact.

    We still slaughter and rape one another en masse, abuse the helpless, have nothing but crooks as leaders, follow backwards religions, and idolize people like Kim Kardashian. And that's just the beginning of it.

    Say what you will about Reptilians or demons or whatever, but take a good, hard look at our species, throughout history and now.

    I wouldn't blame them if they had little to no desire to mass contact us. We kind of suck, by and large.

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Because the benevolent races adhere to the creed of not interfering in the natural progression of life in the Universe.

    The others......... Well, deals have been made in exchange for advanced tech, amongst other things.

    The Earth is going through a Dark Age at the moment. Material possessions count more than a Man's soul. Like a child, man is preoccupied with his technological toys, which he believes will bring him riches and happiness. This shows up in the superficiality of this culture and a careless disregard for nature. In this greedy quest for more complex machines Man is prepared to sacrifice almost anything, his natural environment, animals and even his fellow humans. The dreadful spectre hardly makes for good galactic neighbours.
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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Quote Posted by The Crimson Horse Blanket (here)
    Because the benevolent races adhere to the creed of not interfering in the natural progression of life in the Universe.[...]
    Interesting:

    Quote ... not interfering in the natural progression of life in the Universe.
    ... do they have an amendment in their constitution that allows them to interfere in case of un-natural progression?

    Do they have a "Do what's right!" policy or principle?

    Because, if they don't, then they are as stuck in their programming and beliefs as any other flat-earther...

    Come to think of it, is there, actually, such a thing as a "progression" in this universe? Or just a selection/segregation process between black and white "hats"?
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    [*]Some ETs may NOT have our best interests at heart, and are acting very covertly. (See Dr David Jacobs' excellent and detailed work on hybrids, as an example.) The adage applies for both ETs and humans: if someone's keeping secrets from you, they're trying to control you.[/LIST]
    This is my gut feeling, and while I cannot believe anything really with 100% certainty, it seems to be the most likely scenario. Following this course of thinking, if there are any benevolent ET's, then they are clearly at odds with the ones who are working to control and enslave the human race, and while I would guess that our governments and technology pose no real threat to them, seeing as how they are certainly more advanced than we are, there is a strong likelihood that the malevolent ET's would not take kindly to the "good" ones trying to help us out, free us from slavery, clean the environment, give us their technologies, etc etc. I would guess that they are fighting each other behind the scenes, and I suspect that the "good" ET's employ various tactics to work towards usurping the power and control of the "bad" ones.

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    A wave of sightings of craft/orbs/cigar mother-ships and several different types of beings maybe even a few robots happened in 1954 France/Europe.
    Strangely he and that never seems to get talked about?

    The great minded French mathematician Aime michell did much work back then.
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    The book has an enthusiastic preface by General L.M. Chassin, General Air Defense Coordinator, Allied Air Forces, Central Europe (NATO), in which he asserts: "This book should be in every library," and he reasons, "We can therefore say categorically that mysterious objects have indeed appeared and continue to appear in the sky that surrounds us."

    As for the aliens that were seen in 1954, they are described as creatures in divers' suits, about three and a half feet tall, wearing helmets, with large heads. However, one being was described as four and a half feet tall, with shaggy hair, dazzling eyes and two lights halfway up its body in front. Various animal reactions are recorded: a dog howled "to wake the dead", another dog was terrified after its encounter three days later and some terrified cows refused to produce milk.
    So much has been shown and seen.
    have we as a speeches changed much because of it/them?

    I can't help but think there are many levels of reality that we slip in and out of, maybe call them time lines if you like.

    Maybe we are being made to slip out before we tune in to much.
    Fear porn for energies abound, and maybe they now have great amounts of food/energy coming from our continued anticipation and frustrations?

    Do we believe in the Montauk_Project and the tampering of time it's self, if we do then that might be part of the hold back right there.
    We see our selves progressing, day to day things changing but the main part of our movement through time keeps getting reset.

    Maybe like David Icke (Great man of pronominal persistence) says WE need to change our movie/hologram story to let them in to our sight and so contact.

    How much of the Alien Phenomenon are actually the Jinn, might be all, both good and bad beings, Angles and Fallen-Angles with us existing it that realm, not space time and matter as we mainly see our selves.

    Like as already suggested, about our death and destruction habits (evils), well once you have seen the likes of that you have it in your heart, that might be pushing away the good ET's, when we our selves stop the death and destruction of our selves by our selves, well maybe then they can contact openly with out the blinkers.

    Might just simply be our leaders contact and cooperation with negatives that have tipped the balance, the good ones have to sneak in here and there, not in numbers, if numbers they have any more


    Sorry if I started rambling on there, so many possible angles and possibilities.
    great post mojo.
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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    The fact that showing up in a flashy and totally clear way would intervene with our free will and spiritual development, that's a big no no. And how many human psyches could handle something like that?

    They did that before and regretted it. They were the "gods" of the old times. Some were good and some weren't. I suspect that a big mass contact will happen when humanity has reachead a certain level of consciousness collectively. Are we there now? When I look at the world, I would say far from it. But still, one day it will happen. Perhaps when we reach Mars officially, something starts to happen. Humans are bound to find the ancient relics there anyways.
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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    What if our idea and concept of contact is completely different than the ets..what if contact isn't even in there vocab and thought process.They being aliens..in every sense of the word.and the above thought came as I was reading the response to mojos thread.as is I'm pretty much onboard and open to all the answers given..another thought/question followed..What if contact on a mass scale is and does and has happened??Yet due to many factors 1 being most refuse to see what is already in front of there faces..also from my point of view I was taught in a instant/moment what out right contact does to even the most open of minds and hearts..On a good day I feel were ready...on a bad day..well...in all this back and forth I feel deeply that ready or not the truth should and will prevail.Great work mojo...


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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    I think they are waiting for each and every human on the planet to come out of their bubbles of denial of what their own species is doing to themselves and each other.

    Perhaps it’s because that too many people still live in fear at some level, or are too frightened or caught up in themselves to express and give love and warmth to each other, which is debilitating and regressive. Instead of taking the reins of theirs lives and standing up for their right to shine and be their own unique expression, they lock down and continue a pattern of self protection and continue ‘to live’ in a weird sense of security; pretending that material wealth is all they need to survive.

    We’ve all heard this before but starting by being honest with ourselves and owning it and evolving from that is I think key for our personal growth, of our own souls and that of humanity .. and is maybe why other beings out there - the nicer and so called more spiritually advanced ETS - see it this way as well. And so perhaps this is why they are not swooping into to save us all at once because how will we sustain if we don’t first learn how to clean up our own messes? That’s not going to happen if someone continually comes in to do it for us. Is it?

    Humanity is a tough planet to be on, no doubt about it but if they are doing it bit by bit, perhaps those who have had the fortune to be visited by benevolent beings can suggest they also go see anyone on this list as well. That would be awesome

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Quote Posted by Indigris (here)
    Pretty much what Bill said.

    Another possibility remains, of course, that the vast majority of us are simply too primitive/immature as a species for that kind of contact.

    We still slaughter and rape one another en masse, abuse the helpless, have nothing but crooks as leaders, follow backwards religions, and idolize people like Kim Kardashian. And that's just the beginning of it.

    Say what you will about Reptilians or demons or whatever, but take a good, hard look at our species, throughout history and now.

    I wouldn't blame them if they had little to no desire to mass contact us. We kind of suck, by and large.
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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    I agree with Wind that a big mass contact will happen when humanity has reached a certain level of consciousness collectively. However, I do believe it may be possible even before then, to reach some consensus reality of their presence as we appear to be in accelerating times.

    Contact with Extra-terrestrial Civilisations (ETC) is happening through a well-developed sequence of phases as part of a much larger communications strategy IMHO. Its all part of a preparation of mankind for worldwide or global first contact leading to mankind becoming a member of the cosmic community. I believe its no accident that we appear to have a sequence of phases partly orchestrated by a range of ETCs that are testing and influencing us holistically by demonstrating their existence in different ways. Our efforts and response to them is noted, as we weave through this reciprocal relationship with them. Although it appears to be quite hidden from mainstream worldview,(the perception block) there is this symbiotic endeavor going on, where we become and they become ready for the next phase in our evolution.

    Phase No. 1 Sensitization:

    Has been going on through research & studies covering all aspects of communications and technologies, telepathically, physically, socially, linguistically, intelligence. The influence of the media: television, documentaries, books, magazines, newspapers, online sites, movies is no accident. Its a collectivization of awakening leading to some sort of consensus reality.

    Phase No. 2 Preparation:

    Raising awareness within the community at all levels leading to enabling communications with Extra-terrestrial Civilization(s)ETC. I believe positive neutral telepathic communications have been going on for a long time in society, in particular, even influencing some key influential world leaders in the past and present to key persons in the military world. On the other side of the spectrum some members of the young generation have total recall of their mission here on Earth (i.e. ET connection). I believe this has been going on a subconscious level gradually manifesting itself consciously. This is the new level of awareness coming into the planet. We are gradually creating networks, connecting up and cooperating. The many disciplines in society from scientists, engineers, artists and musicians to name a few. Even if mainstream are still dumbed down of this realization, its unavoidable now. Society is gradually wakening up from its sleep mode. We can see this all round us from the fake news to the real news. These preparations are leading to worldwide first contact IMO

    Phase No. 3 First Contact:

    The development of this contact has already manifested in different ways over some time, however, the timing on a psycho social level worldwide is about right now for contact. The public will become aware of the existence of contact event in whatever form it takes. I wouldn’t expect large spacecraft stationery over every city in world demonstrating there presence, but I would expect a much softer approach for the citizens of this world.

    This next phase may lead into scientific & intercultural exchange with ET Civilizations (ETC), information exchange will require a fundamentally new model for interstellar communications either at a distance or around the Earth. This means this would require new preparations for mankind for worldwide first contact event.

    The post global contact event could provide universal global communications, where the infrastructure is already in place, that is all encompassing with ETC. This means that an organised global network of distributed communications centres could be established for live streaming. This would require training communications operatives at these communication centres. The centres could act as interfaces for both receiving and transmitting communications from ETC and Earth. Global live streaming incoming communications to the centres would require a wide range of global experts in different subjects for this to be successful.

    Although this may appear to be an ideal, I believe this is possible and doable. The realization of this outcome would force whom ever is in authority to take these next steps. The ground swell of people may demand this outcome. Disrupting the existing agendas in governments and UN.

    I’m optimistic this type of scenario is a real its just a matter of time that this may become the next stage in out evolution.

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Would you want to land in a "Warzone"? We have to "clean house" - and grow up - before that happens

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    I agree with you KiwiElf, I wouldn't expect any landings by an ETC. It doesn't make sense with some social conflicts on Earth. I was thinking more of some aspects of there communications, to demonstrate there presence, eventually been made aware of there existence on a global scale.

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Ultimately mass contact would cause such a "disturbance" that it would change all future time lines - great change coming from no actions of our own. The karmic legacy would be off the charts. Hence the prime directive from the benevolents.

    Course we all know malevolent Ets were/are already on a collision course of darkness so interfering with a less advanced race was right up their alley. Nothing to lose. However they underestimate one thing. That which they do not understand or think even exists. DiviNE realm has sent freedom fighters if you will that have averted great disasters on humanity's behalf. John f. KENNEDY being one. They don't directly intervene, only through human will does action occur. It just seems to be a rule that's adhered to.

    Partnering with Creator/divine realm is how the scale will be tipped. How have the bad guys not won yet? It seems they should have by now. Us humans against who? Advanced Ets and manipulated power figures all themselves being manipulated by dark spirits. It's is the few who are strongly connected to Source Creator who continually keep us afloat.
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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    we are not that interesting

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Our conditioning is so complete, so far-reaching, so totally all-encompassing as to make the ET question a moot point.

    The question isn't why haven't "they" contacted us formally. It is why haven't we come to grips with the situation on the ground, here, now. Why do we still accept this atrocious system and this ridiculous society and its dictates. Why won't we stand for our principles and oppose the institutionalized fleecing of the wealth builders. Our world is upside down and inside out and no one seems to give a hoot.

    Until we make a stand nothing will happen. No one is coming to our rescue because we do not deserve it. The societies of the light do not need slaves. We are of no value if we cannot at least call a steaming pile what it is and not try to package it in a tidy little meme and call it a rose.

    How long could the ostriches continue with their heads stuck in the sand if Pandora's box is opened?

    And how long do you think before the entire ET revelation would be monetized, captured, and perverted to the elite's advantage? Maybe that is exactly what has happened already while we were rubbing the sand out of our own eyes...
    Why Not?

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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    Quote What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?
    Humans are looking for quick results.It doesn't work like that.We need to have patience.For some of us things start happened from an early age and for others later,depending of everyone's level of consciousness.For the rest is depending by many factors.

    What is more important is that in the last years and mostly from 2012,many humans are started to awaken and/or raise their consciousness in different more accelerated ways and this process didn't stopped.This process is preparing us for something.This "something" for some will be a stop point from which they will have to figure by themselves how to proceed further and for others a "sign" to continue their path.

    We only have to understand that what you will ask,that you will receive - and this is not taken from the bible - it's a fact.The entire human population is divided between good and bad and until we will not decided on which side will be there will be no mass contact,only at personal level.Humans are like kids in kindergarten supervised by a teacher which intervened in class education or in moments of major conflict.When the kids are playing peacefully there is no reason of intervention.But the kids don't understand the reason of education,because they don't understand the future because they don't have experience,but there is a moment when a kid or some kids empathize in their own way with the teacher consider it a guardian/protector/guide and that's the moment of true CONTACT.

    So,no matter if THEY are a race/civilization/alliance/federation,THEY are guard/protect/guide us through this process of education at our level of understanding showing us things at the border of our level of understanding to spread THEIR teachings and make more humans to understand the reason of contact.

    Not even in ancient times there wasn't mass contact,because every ancient civilization,as today,has it's own level of understanding and in time the initial true teachings has been forgotten due to multiple reasons:
    -pre Incas=Viracochas
    -Sumerians=Annunaki
    -Dacians=Zalmoxes
    -Celts=An Dagda
    -Egyptians=Ra
    -Nordic people=Odin
    -Greeks=Zeus
    -Romans=Jupiter
    -Mongols=Daichin Tengri
    -today we have God/Allah/Budha with their branches and so on...

    So,one true consciousness - one mass contact.Until then we have to - first consciously discern good from bad,have patience - and meanwhile learn all the information received through all channels.
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    Default Re: What is keeping alien species from contacting the general public in a larger way?

    two reasons , the earth human being puts off swinging waves that make ETs physically ill , they think /vibrate at a much higher /finer state ... we would only panic and attack them out of fear ... not everyone on earth thinks like we do , outside of avalon there is much fear ... also they said they don't want another religion created ... they said the earth human being is not capable of making an honest and just peace with his neighbor , much less with someone from another planet ... they said we would in a smokescreen of peace we would only try and seize control of their beamships ... only beings of higher evolution are granted access to greater power ...
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