My experience with the "Nano Particle Detox" treatment. Anyone try this yet?

[dynamo]

Earlier this year I purchased some PEMF equipment as you can read about in this thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rience-with-it

Last month, I decided to go a step further and try the Nano Detox treatment based on Tony Pantelleresco's procedures.
Here are Tony's website and youtube for those interested in his work:
http://augmentinforce.50webs.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/HerbsPlusBeadWorks/videos

The way the Nano Detox works is by filling a bucket with one of three formulas Tony has devised.

Formula 1 - take 3 gallons of Vinegar (white) and add 1/8-1/4 cup of salt. Mix thoroughly and then connect the power supply. Sit with either one leg or both in the pail for 20-30 minutes.

Formula 2 – take 3 gallons of Distilled Water and 1-2 caps of DMSO, Citric acid 1/8-1/4 cup and Salt 1/8- 1/4 cup. Mix thoroughly and then connect the power supply. Sit with either one leg or both in the pail for 20-30 minutes.

Formula 3 - take TSP -1/8 cup Salt, 1/8 cup Citric Acid, Distilled water 3-3.5 gallons ( 12 litres for the metrically oriented). Mix thoroughly and then connect the power supply. Sit with either one leg or both in the pail for 20-30 minutes.

I must say that after a few sessions, the swelling in my legs and knees has gone down considerably and I feel refreshed and "lighter", for lack of a better term!
I do the procedure a few times a week for 20-30 minutes.
I set the controller to max power and around 7 to 10 hertz the shumann frequency.

Anyone else try this yet?
If so, care to share your experience?
Thanks for any feedback!
P.S. I am using this system.
Since I already had the controller, I only needed the pail and wiring...

[Bob]

Hi Dynamo - the ingredients of the three formulas have me wondering what exactly is happening with "relief" being experienced.. Citric acid and DMSO and current driving.. hmm

There is a PDF HERE that discusses the role of citric acid in muscle tissue, such as a key in ATP production..

Systematic experiments show that indeed large quantities of citric acid are formed if
oxaloacetic acid is added to muscle anaerobically, whilst all the other intermediates, including
pyruvic acid yield no citric acid under the same conditions.

It is because the synthesis of citric
acid from oxaloacetic acid does not require molecular oxygen and because citric acid is stable
in the tissue anaerobically that it is possible to demonstrate the synthesis of citric acid in a
simple experiment.

Translated, citric acid getting into the muscle tissues means more energy can be created, and driving such in using "acetates" (like from the vinegar, acetic acid) means even more citric acid is put in, and using DMSO, that pretty much guarantees more driving in, and dissipation of excess water/fluids in tissue... (swelling reduction).

I simply just do not know what happens if force feeding tissues epidermically (thru the skin) is safe or wise. Citric acid is needed in the energy cycle (it's called the Kreb's cycle).

An article here may be useful - http://www.zliving.com/health/natura...for-body-3376/

Why Citric Acid Is Essential For Your Body (& Who Should Avoid It)

Despite its many health benefits, citric acid supplementation can cause a variety of side effects such as vomiting, diarrhea, nausea and abdominal pain.
Dizziness Or Loss Of Blood Pressure: Citric acid can cause a loss of fructose absorption, leading to a sudden drop in blood pressure, dizziness, decreased attention and fainting.
Weak Hair: Citric acid may also lead to hair degradation, discoloration or breakage. The acid tends to open the hair cuticle and removes minerals from the hair.
Drug Interactions: Citric acid may interact with certain drugs that contain aluminum salts, tetracyclines such as doxycycline, amphetamines and anorexiant drugs like phentermine.

A slight amount of vinegar oral appears to be OK, but driving acetic acid into the tissues, using DMSO plus current, may be quite a different story..

The reference to electro-driving is here: http://www.electrophysicalforum.org/...th-acetic-acid - where acetic acid is being driven into tissues with current.

A reference of using acetic acid to embalm tissues is here - https://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...ection.420203/

"Dilute acetic acid (3-5%) effectively removes the thin mucous covering of the epithelial surface.

It further penetrates into the surface cell causing coagulation of intracellular proteins and dehydration of the intracellular compartment.

These actions essentially make the cells more refractory toward light because the space between nuclei and their surrounding proteins for light energy to pass through is decreased.

Coagulation and dehydration - ever look at a raw egg, and then the egg white after it is "cooked" ??

I understand the concept of getting some citric acid into cells and some acetate, very small amounts normally through the regular absorption methods of the digestive system.

I'm kinda scared with the ingredients and methods being described to force such into one's body thru the legs..

[dynamo]

Posted by Bob (here)
Hi Dynamo - the ingredients of the three formulas have me wondering what exactly is happening with "relief" being experienced.. Citric acid and DMSO and current driving.. hmm

...I'm kinda scared with the ingredients and methods being described to force such into one's body thru the legs..

Bob, thanks for the excellent links and information.
I am not a chemist or health specialist.
The procedure calls for the use of one of the 3 formulas, not all 3 at once.
I only use the water, vinegar and salt formula.
I don't know where to get dmso or citric acid, nor have I looked to get any as the vinegar, salt and water work fine for me and is relatively inexpensive.
I think of that particular formula as being similar to using epsom salt in a bath, i.e. to draw out toxins.
Maybe the vinegar helps...I cannot see the formula as being used to "force" anything into the body, but merely to help draw toxins out.
Also, there is no current passing (or driving as you put it) through the water, there is a pulsing magnetic field similar to the PEMF therapy coils.

[Bob]

Hia Dynamo - ya, I understand that one doesn't use all three at once.. But tissues will have residuals within them, so the chemicals are in the tissues..

DMSO is available on-line or at feed stores. Possibly citric acid in bulk would be available from a vitamin store.. I used to get Ascorbic Acid (vitamin C in bulk) years ago, and made my own buffering for such..

Not getting too deep into chemistry.. The thing with the acetic acid plus electricity...

This scares the u know what out of me... Acetic acid (vinegar) plus the salts plus the electricity will create free chlorine gas with the salts being broken down.. Acetic acid when electrolyzed will break down into free ETHANE plus carbon-dioxide.. (saturating the tissues with chlorine, (not MMS), and ethane..)

If I recall it could then be possible with the right metals like zinc or magnesium or manganese in the tissues, the ethane plus chlorine will combine to a "chloro-ethane" molecule.. Chloro-ethanes are pretty nasty toxins. ( chloroethane can affect your nervous system, causing lack of muscle control and unconsciousness. )

If it can be taken to tri-chloro-ethane, (TCE) that stuff besides being an amazing solvent is awfully neuro-toxic..

None of that would be happening if the electricity wasn't used, as the driver..

I frankly am very concerned about the potential of having my cells and muscles "denatured", and cooked, coagulated by pumping acetic acid (vinegar) into them.

I'd be feeling more safe with an epsom salt foot bath, but for me personally the epsom salts give me an allergic reaction - that type of magnesium sulfate (from sulfuric acid) just doesn't sit well with me. I'd leave out the electricity if one is wanting to experiment.. DMSO is a strong carrier, meaning that which is present with the DMSO will be transferred into the tissues.. Meaning if it isn't working you CAN'T get it out of you whatever you have added to the DMSO.. And there is a residual with the DMSO/Citric Acid..

references -

• https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/tf.asp?id=826&tid=161 chloro-ethane
• electrolysis of acetic acid, products created - ETHANE - https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/...sis-of-vinegar (electrolysis of vinegar)
• electrolysis of salt - creates free sodium plus chlorine gas - the free sodium combines with the remaining water, to create LYE (sodium hydroxide aqueous) - http://science.jrank.org/pages/2351/...-hydrogen.html

That's more of why it scares the bejezus out of me to hear about anyone driving those chemicals into their body with current..

In your post above, you mention this -

I think of that particular formula as being similar to using epsom salt in a bath, i.e. to draw out toxins.

Maybe the vinegar helps...I cannot see the formula as being used to "force" anything into the body, but merely to help draw toxins out.

Electricity is used for driving drugs for instance into the body - it is as regular as using DMSO for driving drugs/chemicals into the body..

A most worrisome application is by Monsanto to create genetically engineered organisms, the process is called "ElectroPoration" - somewhere in PA I think on one of the GMO threads I briefly explained the electroporation method Monsanto uses. I will briefly bring it up here to help you understand electricity DOES drive substance IN, it doesn't pull it out..

Electro-drug-delivery is probably something very relevant to using electricity plus chemicals (or drugs) - here: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/...2/?reload=true

[..] pulse power technology was used as a tool to investigate its effect on viability and proliferation on human breast cancer cell lines and adult stem cells using various voltages and pulse durations.

The results indicate that electrical pulses could be used effectively and economically to enhance drug transport across the normally impermeable plasma cell membranes as well as to reduce proliferation.

This reference: HERE is from a google stored book review - electro assisted delivery

[dynamo]

Posted by Bob (here)
... The thing with the acetic acid plus electricity...

This scares the u know what out of me... Acetic acid (vinegar) plus the salts plus the electricity will create free chlorine gas with the salts being broken down.. Acetic acid when electrolyzed will break down into free ETHANE plus carbon-dioxide.. (saturating the tissues with chlorine, (not MMS), and ethane..)

If I recall it could then be possible with the right metals like zinc or magnesium or manganese in the tissues, the ethane plus chlorine will combine to a "chloro-ethane" molecule.. Chloro-ethanes are pretty nasty toxins. ( chloroethane can affect your nervous system, causing lack of muscle control and unconsciousness. )

If it can be taken to tri-chloro-ethane, (TCE) that stuff besides being an amazing solvent is awfully neuro-toxic..

None of that would be happening if the electricity wasn't used, as the driver..

I frankly am very concerned about the potential of having my cells and muscles "denatured", and cooked, coagulated by pumping acetic acid (vinegar) into them.

I'd be feeling more safe with an epsom salt foot bath, but for me personally the epsom salts give me an allergic reaction - that type of magnesium sulfate (from sulfuric acid) just doesn't sit well with me. I'd leave out the electricity if one is wanting to experiment.. DMSO is a strong carrier, meaning that which is present with the DMSO will be transferred into the tissues.. Meaning if it isn't working you CAN'T get it out of you whatever you have added to the DMSO.. And there is a residual with the DMSO/Citric Acid..


That's more of why it scares the bejezus out of me to hear about anyone driving those chemicals into their body with current..

Bob, again...there is no electricity as a driver.
It is magnetic pulses, there is a big difference.
Nano particles are being drawn OUT of the body, nothing is being "forced in".
As I stated before, when you take an epsom bath, you are not inducing salt into your body, the salt is drawing toxins out of your body.
Ionic foot baths (scam, the "brown stuff" in the water is the oxidized electrodes) pass electrical current through the liquid.
The systems being discussed here do not.
Thanks again.

[Bob]

Posted by dynamo (here)

Posted by Bob (here)
... The thing with the acetic acid plus electricity...

This scares the u know what out of me... Acetic acid (vinegar) plus the salts plus the electricity will create free chlorine gas with the salts being broken down.. Acetic acid when electrolyzed will break down into free ETHANE plus carbon-dioxide.. (saturating the tissues with chlorine, (not MMS), and ethane..)

If I recall it could then be possible with the right metals like zinc or magnesium or manganese in the tissues, the ethane plus chlorine will combine to a "chloro-ethane" molecule.. Chloro-ethanes are pretty nasty toxins. ( chloroethane can affect your nervous system, causing lack of muscle control and unconsciousness. )

If it can be taken to tri-chloro-ethane, (TCE) that stuff besides being an amazing solvent is awfully neuro-toxic..

None of that would be happening if the electricity wasn't used, as the driver..

I frankly am very concerned about the potential of having my cells and muscles "denatured", and cooked, coagulated by pumping acetic acid (vinegar) into them.

I'd be feeling more safe with an epsom salt foot bath, but for me personally the epsom salts give me an allergic reaction - that type of magnesium sulfate (from sulfuric acid) just doesn't sit well with me. I'd leave out the electricity if one is wanting to experiment.. DMSO is a strong carrier, meaning that which is present with the DMSO will be transferred into the tissues.. Meaning if it isn't working you CAN'T get it out of you whatever you have added to the DMSO.. And there is a residual with the DMSO/Citric Acid..


That's more of why it scares the bejezus out of me to hear about anyone driving those chemicals into their body with current..

Bob, again...there is no electricity as a driver.
It is magnetic pulses, there is a big difference.
Nano particles are being drawn OUT of the body, nothing is being "forced in".
As I stated before, when you take an epsom bath, you are not inducing salt into your body, the salt is drawing toxins out of your body.
Ionic foot baths (scam, the "brown stuff" in the water is the oxidized electrodes) pass electrical current through the liquid.
The systems being discussed here do not.
Thanks again.

I am not convinced that there isn't a current flow between the cells because of the mixture chosen. The use of a magnetic pulse most certainly induces moving charges.

The substances in the solution additionally have what is called different electro values, called "electro-valences". If there is a difference in potential, migration happens, by electro driving, not just capillary action if there is a pathway for that. As to membrane permeability, that is how moisture can get into the cells.

I agree, a strong salt bath will cause a liquid flow from the inside of the tissue to the outside. Provided that there is no additional energy added to the system, in the case of direct current, pulsed current or pulsed magnetic fields.

I wouldn't have any worry about bathing in a strong salt water solution (plain sodium chloride). Osmotic pressure comes into play.

Adding the "electricity" is the issue. And messing around with substances PLUS DMSO is worrisome. The DMSO plus substance won't necessarily leave the tissues if there isn't good lymph flow for instance.

The DMSO is a driver/carrier, and messes with the skin porosity. Electrically it happens because of the substances. We are not normally saturated with acetic acid or citric acid or DMSO..

The concept of JUST the salt to cause migration (epsom salts, magnesium sulfate) is fine for migration OUT of the body.. I am just concerned about what goes INTO the body from a complex solution . Plain vinegar diluted is great for burns, but it does destroy the outer epithelial layer, affects the membrane of cells. I wouldn't want that transported into my body in quantity.

As to the "magnetic pulses" - its called the electromagnetic force where magnetism which appears and then collapses most DEFINITELY induces electricity.

Faraday was aware that a coil of wire with an electric current flowing through it generates a magnetic field. Therefore, he hypothesized that a changing magnetic field induces a current in the second coil.

The closing and opening of the switch cause a magnetic field to change: to expand and collapse respectively.

The current is a "CHARGE" of electrons, which means "ELECTRICITY".. The closing and opening of the switch in Faraday's time would be analogous to a "Pulse". The rise-time of how fast the current appears and disappears gives rise to a multitude of frequencies, based on the "pulse repetition rate" and rise time. I've measured frequencies up in the many thousands of megahertz range (microwaves) with 1 nanosecond rise times for instance.. So yes there IS electricity present in a system being hit with a pulsed magnetic field. (That was btw, the basis for van-Bise and Raucher's death weapons designed to cause spasms and stop hearts)..

I wouldn't risk it, nor would I want to have any possibility of getting something into the body that it wasn't naturally meant to have. That's just me, no doubt people will do what they want.

(done here with my statement and observation)

reference - CHARGE FORMATION on a cell membrane with a PULSED MAGNETIC FIELD

(charge formation means ELECTRICITY)

use of a pulsed magnetic field for drug delivery INTO the tissues:

[Joey]

I've made myself a bucket quite some time ago and I've used it quite a lot.

The idea is that the wires wrapped around the bucket create a very strong electromagnetic field which destabilize and switch off the nano-particles.
The solution with salts and acids are supposed to get into the tissues and pull out the damaged nano-particles.

When you have bathed for awhile in this bath and you shine your flashlight into it, you can see small particles floating in it. These are the supposed nano-particles.

I have to admit that sitting in it for a while makes me feel lighter and more level headed. But I'm not sure if this is due to the switching off of the nano-particles.
There could also be other reasons for this effect to occur, like a flushing of the meridians because of the feet which are exposed to the pulsation of the generated fields.
Or maybe the feet soak up a lot of essential nutrients of the salts. Or maybe it's just the sitting in one position for an hour without any distractions. Or the body starts to detox in general trough the pores of the feet.

I do admires Tony's persistence and dedication to the subject and he does great work in revealing this malignant agenda which has the potential to really destroy or mutate us and the world around us. Chemtrailing and nano-poisoning are a very real and dangerous threat we are facing now. I'm always aware of the mass spraying and weather modification which is going on a lot right now. Trees are dying and and nature is very much disturbed. I am disturbed too.

I'm not really sure if the nano-bucket is the thing as it seems too superficial to really tackle the problem. I mean we are really breathing, eating and drinking this stuff all the time. We cannot escape it and the amount of nano material which is extracted from the body after a session is very minimal. He also shares his knowledge in how to extract it from your food, but that also is a lot of unreasonable work and is not sufficient in dealing with the problem.

Also a lot of the other remedies he supplies don't stick with me that well. I tried a lot of his stuff, but I ended being a self-taught chemist and being my own chemical experiment. I now feel that the body is much more complex and cant be that well steered in a certain direction with just plain chemicals and minerals.

[TargeT]

Strong magnetic fields "switch off" nano-particles?

Am I the only one that sees this as a pretty clear scam that uses buzz words and fear porn to sell itself?

Chemtrailing and nano-poisoning are a very real and dangerous threat we are facing now

well if that's the case then we should have some pretty clear evidence to back up those claims, right?

Nano-poisoning & "chemtrailing" currently doesn't have clear evidence to back the theories, & I doubt that the lack of evidence that there is a problem,( or exactly what problem is) leads to a very good solution...



maybe it's just a good old placebo response your feeling, those are very powerful.

You certainly are NOT seeing any nano particles in water, as their very definition lets you know the naked eye could never see them.

[Axman]

Bob I have to say once again your experience and knowledge is fascinating and informative to me love it.

The Axman

[CurEus]

Thanks Dynamo!!

I always somehow knew those footbaths were a scam.

They are now using the same reaction to sell distilled water makers. They put some electrodes of a type in Evian water, Fiji and then tap water and they all turn brown.

....distilled water does not.

BUY this machine now!!!!!!!

[dynamo]

Thanks for all of the feedback, especially Joey who also has tried this procedure.
I'm not 100% sure how it works either, Joey, but for now, it is helping me to feel better and relieves a lot of chronic pain.
To me, that means a lot.
Bob, your information is way over my head.
Thank you though, I will do some follow up on what you have indicated.
Any other actual users out there?

[dynamo]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Strong magnetic fields "switch off" nano-particles?

Am I the only one that sees this as a pretty clear scam that uses buzz words and fear porn to sell itself?

Chemtrailing and nano-poisoning are a very real and dangerous threat we are facing now

well if that's the case then we should have some pretty clear evidence to back up those claims, right?

Nano-poisoning & "chemtrailing" currently doesn't have clear evidence to back the theories, & I doubt that the lack of evidence that there is a problem,( or exactly what problem is) leads to a very good solution...



maybe it's just a good old placebo response your feeling, those are very powerful.

You certainly are NOT seeing any nano particles in water, as their very definition lets you know the naked eye could never see them.

Target, I have asked Tony Pantelleresco (sp?) these same questions.
His contention is that, by definition, nano particles are billions of an inch in size (which of course are too small to see) which then cluster together to form fiber-like structures in the body.

These structures can then form lesions in the skin and cause intense pain as described by Morgellons sufferers (and Lyme disease sufferers, which he contends are in some cases mis-diagnosed cases of nano particle accumulation).
These large structures are what can be seen with a high power (60 to 100X magnifier) floating on the top of the solution.
Sample images have been recorded by many around the world (if I can find them, I will link them..wait, I remember seeing them here: https://byebyebluesky.com/ but my browser is not letting me visit this site for some reason...

This site can’t provide a secure connection
byebyebluesky.com sent an invalid response.
Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
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And yes, some videos here:
https://2ground.com/blogs/2ground/an...ne-productions

Anyway...according to Mr. Pantelleresco:

The liquid solutions and pulsing magnetic field help to "dissolve" these clumps and remove them from the body.

Fortunately for me, I do not exhibit signs of Morgellons, but, I do suffer from acute and chronic inflammation and pain.
Hence, I am willing to try different methods to reduce the inflammation, pain and my dependency on prescription pain killers.
Grounding, PEMF therapy and now the Nano detox procedure have helped me immensely with no signs of adverse effects (so far, knock on wood).

Whether or not this is a placebo effect, I don't know.
That is why I am asking if others have had experience with this procedure and what their take on it is.
I can say with confidence, however, that I have regained the use of my hands, wrists and arms after starting the PEMF Therapy.
Also, the inflammation and pain in my legs and knees has gone down considerably since the use of the Nano detox bucket.
Since grounding myself, with earthing sheets on the bed and grounding straps on my wrists, my sciatica is long gone!

When one is suffering and modern protocols are not helping, what else can one do?

[Joey]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Strong magnetic fields "switch off" nano-particles?

Am I the only one that sees this as a pretty clear scam that uses buzz words and fear porn to sell itself?

Chemtrailing and nano-poisoning are a very real and dangerous threat we are facing now

well if that's the case then we should have some pretty clear evidence to back up those claims, right?

Nano-poisoning & "chemtrailing" currently doesn't have clear evidence to back the theories, & I doubt that the lack of evidence that there is a problem,( or exactly what problem is) leads to a very good solution...



maybe it's just a good old placebo response your feeling, those are very powerful.

You certainly are NOT seeing any nano particles in water, as their very definition lets you know the naked eye could never see them.

Uhhh.. So for you Chemtrails are a unconfirmed theory? Have you ever seriously looked up?

And if you look into his work, he has a lot of photos of the nano material. It seems to me that you are debunking for the sake of debunking.

http://byebyebluesky.com/morgellons/

But I got the feeling that your skepticism is too big to even consider it.

[Trisher]

Hello Dynamo
I have been following Tony Pantalleresco and made his triangle that goes into the bath. Being very wary of sitting in the bath with this connected up to a 12 volt electrical plug..I used a 12 volt car battery. I had at the time a leg that was bothering me. It was tingling and sending out electrical shocks with some numbness. Mostly at night and also when sitting near the computer I would feel crawling up and down in the leg.
This nano triangle sorted that after maybe 5 sessions.
For anyone doubting that nano poisoning is real or not get yourself a little hand lens 30x or 60x. Take a look at the food you are eating. You may see white fibers and when you cut into things you may see dots and specks and fibers. Anything grown above ground is suspect. I do this with my bath water after a salt bath. Let the salt settle..then drain very slowly. Look at the salty deposits through the lens. It seems that the more I bathe and the more I do saunas and steam rooms the more this stuff pours out

One of the things that struck me was that many people have freckles/spots that when joined up like a dot to dot will be in triangles. I notice this on people a lot..also I have noticed that bath dots and fibers settle into triangular patterns. Rain on windows does the same thing. This stuff embeds into things. Its also gives off a frequency. I have strawberries growing outside in the garden which I cannot eat. They look like furry cats under the lens. Pick them up and there is a distinctive frequency coming off them.

I see that Tony has since made a fan with magnets on it..anyone tried this?

Trisher

[TheBeYonder]

Magnets are part of the answer...

anyone explore what is called a Ferrofluid.
this is a unique material that has both magnetic and liquid properties.
It is a colloidal solution of nano-sized particle of magnetite suspended in a liquid...
i wonder what it might do ???

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A do recall warning about swallowing magnets,
and, maybe this might work for people, if applied topically ...
i've heard putting magnetic bracelets on wrists and ankles can help,
and, also have 2 strong flat magnets and placing your body parts between them,
much like a sandwich...
also, if you are going to use 'high powered magnets'
make sure; you put your good watches out of harms way,
magnets ruin watches (which is a form of man made time-keeping)

[Trisher]

Here is an interesting up to date Podcast from Tony Pantalleresco. It covers a range of topics.

https://independz.podbean.com/e/me-9-4-2018/


Avoid c60..nanos in the body..babies have activated nanos and what mothers should be doing to combat this..detoxing nanos and general detox...no grains of any sort....no omega 3....yes to iodine..selenium..gelatin..whey protein..collagen..eggs...food supply compromised..clean up food...coconut oil...saturated fats....saponins...terahertz....infra red...malware on computers...no such thing as organic..food supply all contaminated and violated.

Trisher