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    Default Alt Media being Toasted to a Dark Crisp

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    Below is a summary of what the "little guys" in the Alt-media community are experiencing, from Jim Stone's acquaintance and experience:

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    Defunding of alt media: A long frustrated talk with a good friend


    Last night I made a call to a good friend to discuss how financing for the web site had been interfered with badly this month, and he had some very bad news on this topic. This particular friend does not do an alt media site, but he is connected very well with prominent alt media sites including this one, and was the guy who was titled "Russ Clarke" in the report "Tainted Nightmare". He has a very broad view of the real situation alt media is up against now.

    To put it in few words, in short, we are toast.

    He gave me a full explanation of what is going on. There are several very bad things going on, some I knew about, and others I had not figured out yet.

    First of all, the left is scared to death because they are losing the war to alt media.

    However, alt media needs to be very scared right now, because the left has all the power via platforms such as adsense, all the search engines, complete ownership of all finiancial institutions, you name it, if you need it to survive they own it.

    They have cut off financing to ALL the little guys.

    They hit Infowars hard by cutting off adsense, but that's not the same thing as making the bank "malfunction" across the board.

    My site, as much as I have noticed the interference and complained, is doing better than most, they are afraid of this one because it is potent and have not actually hammered an absolute shut down (though they tried a year and a half ago and failed because the direct IP saved it) at any rate, this is not about my site, I need to talk about what is going on elsewhere . . . . . .

    What is happening to people en masse (for the smaller bloggers) is if they depended on Wordpress, or Blogger, or Youtube, or any other second party server to work from, and also people who were on their own servers but did not actually have the traffic this site has (4.5 million uniques a year plus re-posts everywhere) for anyone who was sub 1 million they simply cut them off completely.

    They are cutting them off completely. They are gone. Most people don't notice it, because the names that got cut off are too small, but they represented an enormous grass roots backbone for the truth movement, and that backbone is now gone.

    As a second level in their war against alt media, (for the larger harder targets they could not take offline outright) they are attacking the financing. Many many alt media people who endured the adsense bans, and endured having Chrome be programmed to block all ads that were not adsense, and were able to keep things going with donations and sales, these people are now facing direct financial interference with the actual financial institutions that make things go.

    It is not only this web site, many other web sites are seeing product sales fall off, and interference with donations. You can't donate to this site at all anymore, if it is a donation that is not tracked by a sale, it simply won't work. Maybe it will briefly after I just said this, (to prove it does) but the reality is that it just does not work.

    People are fed bull**** errors and "try again laters" or silence, with the transaction terminated without them knowing, and (probably) outright theft.

    I was alarmed, because this good friend who is well connected said that this month, it started happening everywhere, to "everyone".

    VERY IMPORTANT: what they are doing against alt media is flatly illegal, it is prosecutable, they know it, and they don't care because they expect to steal the 2018 elections, impeach Trump, and then send the law straight into the sewer.

    This is the scary part folks:


    What they are doing at this point is the final softening of alt media, their final drive to weaken it so much via the cutting of finances and pre-elimination of as many voices as possible, so after they steal the election alt media will be too weak to speak out against it. They will then impeach Trump, and with him gone, they will simply shut alt media down completely.

    Have you noticed lately that many news outlets like the Washington Times have occasionally published stuff good enough to be on this web site? They are doing this to make people value alt media less, and make people believe they actually might tell the truth, before they commit the final kill.

    After the final kill of alt media, according to this friend, all hell breaks loose.

    Once they accomplish an effective squelching of alt media, we are going to see terror like we have never seen it before, and the only narrative will be the MSM narrative. We are going to have the guns get grabbed, and people will be carted off. They are going to launch a major war also, every last thing alt media fought against will become our every day reality, and the only ones around to comment on it will be filth, like CNN.

    Last month, a super powerful AI was launched to destroy us.

    Here are the probable capabilities of the AI (a guess, based upon what I have seen happen) The AI will automatically look for new voices on the web that are not in line with the official line, and will remove those voices via the process of having everything on the internet go through an AI before it reaches the end reader.

    When a dissenting voice is heard, "server errors" and spam filters take care of the situation. No new voices will be sent a suspension notice, or told anything was done against them at all. Their project will simply go nowhere. No one who is not someone already will ever become anyone.

    If a voice is an established voice, the AI is assigned to mess with finances, to cause as many glitches and errors as can possibly be conceivably believed. This will by itself, with nothing at all provable to any party, kill finances by 85 percent or more.

    No suspension notices sent, no warnings given, no notification whatsoever, "glitches" and "hiccups" will take care of it all, with absolutely no paper trail to prosecute. When a tech checks up on the problems, everything will be normal, and the one complaining will be stupid.

    The AI will know when to back off. I noticed this with Fundrazr. That damn AI learned. At first, I could post and have no interference for about 10 hours. Then it cut to about 3 hours. Now the AI is so good at knowing things that it knows I changed routing in 10 minutes or less, and usually accomplishes a complete kill. People are simply not efficient or alert enough to do that.

    Here is my message to others in alt media: Take steps now.

    Cancel all projects that eat money. Lay off all but the most needed staff, NOW.

    If you are paying more for servers than you need to, change that.

    Have all writers learn how to hand code HTML so absolutely no outsourcing is needed. Cut features from your web site that require knowledge you don't have, and currently pay for.

    Rather than die completely, get on a bandwidth plan you can afford, and cut your web site to straight text if you have to, to keep within the bandwidth you can afford.

    No more flash intros and improperly compressed photos! Look at drudge. His site is crap and everyone hits it. DO THE SAME IF NEEDED, the message is worth a lot more than the glitz.

    Get on direct IP access.

    Get your servers offshore, in a safe haven.

    If you use a platform such as Wordpress, Blogger, Youtube,or anything else, and you are real, expect to die in March. You are gone.

    DO NOT buy that boat.

    DO NOT buy that new 4x4.

    DO NOT buy a whole bunch of new office furniture or anything else stupid right now, if your finances appear to be crushed this month it is not an illusion, it is the clarion call of war.

    Welcome to the new normal. NO MORE DINNER AT DENNYS.
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    The GULAG is here!!

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    Default Re: Alt Media being Toasted to a Dark Crisp

    Quote Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
    The GULAG is here!!
    Yep, and the off shore for alt media seems to be a must
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    I've been seeing this talk a lot lately, which started with InfoWars being defunded on YT, and I honestly am missing what the hooplah is about. The ensuing reaction, frankly, seems rather dramatic and heavy-handed to me, but at the same time, I'm new to the whole alt-community, so I fully acknowledge I could simply be missing the larger picture here.

    While YT is becoming an increasingly difficult platform for small creators (we have Google to thank for that), I'm having a hard time believing it's a targeted attack. Alex Jones, for one, still has his website, radio show, and online store, and while I don't agree with pulling adsense from his channel completely, I sort of get where YT is coming from. The ads are random for each channel, and I can see how some companies would rather not get associated, however loosely, with conspiratorial speakers like AJ for PR reasons.

    Is that an unfortunate truth, and indicative of a larger problem in mainstream society and its refusal to accept that which isn't fed to them by the status quo? Absolutely.

    But I think calling the whole thing a mobilized, personal attack against the alt community as a whole may be jumping the gun a bit.

    Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if something like this was in the works.

    Since I'm pretty much on the fence about this whole thing, could anyone kindly point to solid evidence, testimony, and other research so I can can formulate a better, more grounded opinion? I'm very much open to the possibility of this all being true, but with the mention of taking guns and carting people off, I can't help but feel a bit apprehensive. Seems kind of sensationalistic. I hope this doesn't offend; once again, I don't think this is below what the msm/ptb could do, but I feel like maybe this is a skewed perspective, what with putting the blame on the vague 'left', and making grandiose claims about an imminent authoritarian dystopia. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this.

    I've been down the rabbit hole before, and loved it, so maybe this is a new hole I have yet to be pushed down.

    If anyone wants to do the honors, I'd be quite grateful. Just understand that it will take more than he-said-she-said to sway me, personally.

    I hope this isn't too harsh or abrasive. I've always had trouble with tact (I'm a very direct person irl), so let me know if this comes off as too snarky or uppity. I value and respect this forum and its members quite highly, and would hate to flow some bad blood.

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    Quote Posted by Indigris (here)
    I've been seeing this talk a lot lately, which started with InfoWars being defunded on YT, and I honestly am missing what the hooplah is about. The ensuing reaction, frankly, seems rather dramatic and heavy-handed to me, but at the same time, I'm new to the whole alt-community, so I fully acknowledge I could simply be missing the larger picture here.

    [...]
    You could start from here:
    Youtube strikes, bans and censorship, with links to backup and alternative sites

    YOUTUBE is cracking down as the Deep State empire is '3 striking' back: 23/1/18

    Catherine Austin Fitts: all things Fitts


    ...in concert with:
    The Weaponization of Social Media : Corbett report 1 March 2018
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    This is directly related to what we are being told via the Q posts. There is a war going on behind the scenes which is bloodthirsty, take no prisoners. Q tells us repeatedly that the patriots are taking the MSM down, and the MSM won't go down without a last ditch fight.
    I suspect that the MSM narrative will change big time after the contents of Weiner's laptop are released. At some point they will be released as many of the sealed indictments come from the Weiner (Huma) laptop. The "Life Insurance" folder whose contents made some veteran NYPD officers cry. Q keeps trying to tell us that major cognitive dissonance will hit millions of people when that occurs. So before that happens the ground work has to be laid.
    When I talk to diehard Democrats (my wife being one) they all still hold Hillary in high regard. They all are banking on their expectations that some really good dirt will come out of the Russiagate/Mueller investigation. Whereupon, marital discussion of these issues comes to a complete stop. I say to them - be prepared to have your most cherished expectations shattered. All indications point to this happening soon.

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Quote Posted by Indigris (here)
    I've been seeing this talk a lot lately, which started with InfoWars being defunded on YT, and I honestly am missing what the hooplah is about. The ensuing reaction, frankly, seems rather dramatic and heavy-handed to me, but at the same time, I'm new to the whole alt-community, so I fully acknowledge I could simply be missing the larger picture here.

    [...]
    You could start from here:
    Youtube strikes, bans and censorship, with links to backup and alternative sites

    YOUTUBE is cracking down as the Deep State empire is '3 striking' back: 23/1/18

    Catherine Austin Fitts: all things Fitts

    ...in concert with:
    The Weaponization of Social Media : Corbett report 1 March 2018
    Thanks! This is a great start. Time to jump, I suppose. We'll see if I'm changed when I'm done with those threads and their contents, as a starter. I love a good paradigm shift
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    Whereupon, marital discussion of these issues comes to a complete stop. I say to them - be prepared to have your most cherished expectations shattered. All indications point to this happening soon.
    If your wife is anything like my former wife, a California liberal, then their expectations will not be shattered. Rather, they will be confirmed. I expect that my former wife will see any such major indictments or arrests as proof that Trump is so dastardly as to abuse the powers of his office in order to attack those trying to expose his great crimes and even greater incompetence.

    The divide between coastal liberals and fly-over libertarians is too great to be closed anytime soon, by any means whatsoever.

    Thus is as intended, I suspect ... dividing us amongst ourselves, six ways from Sunday, that we might be too busy fighting each other to notice our common enemy ... and on Sunday (or whatever is the Holy Day) as well.

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    Elements in a position of power always seek to control the information that gets out to a collective.

    What evidence is there that people with unfetter access to a centralized knowledge base are better at discerning information then the population at large?

    Information withheld fosters distrust and distrust fosters strife which is growing!

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    I see the sweep as a hard punch not some attack that will eventually lead to successfully silencing the enemy. I also see plenty of similarly outspoken to those weakened that are still untouched for reasons not apparent.

    Doesn't matter, they can't put the genie back in the bottle!

    It's not like the now millions of fervent alt media participants and viewers are suddenly going to go oh well and roll over.

    It will just force new passion for creative ingenuity and new avenues of communication. If some give up, some new will arrive even more focused and ambitious.

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    These "little guys" are almost a part of the problem at times (disturbingly often)....

    maybe I'm just too suspicious, don't trust anyone that's allowed air time, don't trust anything that's allowed on TV... worked pretty well for me so far.


    Corbet report doesn't care if addsense is gone.. How do you suck from the corporate teat and NOT become beholden to it's influence....

    We are seeing that in this protest of what-should-not-matter now.
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    Right on Paul! She is indeed a California woman. And a liberal to the end. I was a liberal once. Until I ran a small business for over 20 years. That will change one's reality. I keep telling her - when expectations run into reality, drop the expectations. Much less suffering.

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    Quote Posted by enigma3 (here)
    expectations ruin reality, drop the expectations. Much less suffering.
    Fixed

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    Bumping that. That's the best short video on the subject I've yet seen. Indigris, start right here.


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    Elements in a position of power always seek to supress oposition, this happens here in Brazil, this is happening in Russia, in Europe, everywhere.

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    The Natural News is launching an alternative video site.https://real.video/

    I consider Natural News an alternative media.

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    No surprises here. To the extent this video implies that the weaponization of social media occurred as an after thought, I disagree. (There was a not so subtle hint of that near the beginning of the video. I confess I did not watch it all.)

    Weaponization was planned from the beginning. They knew exactly what they had, but were only mildly uncertain about the extent to which they could get this technology and its related mind control "benefits" into the hands of nearly everyone in "civilized" areas around the globe. They know the answer now and they have no concerns whatsoever. They got the vast majority hooked.

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    there was a time... we used to go to 'those places'... the radical bookshops that had just as many small production pamphlets as they did books...
    and you bought the alt-print media, the thin ten page 'newspaper'... the one that carried notices alongside the articles on the corruption and manipulation...
    notices for meet-ups in the upstairs room of some dingy pub... places where we 'outraged' would organise action and dissent... you know what I mean,
    before we ALL became screen-fused...

    the alt-media if it is under financial attack, well it surely has the wits to go back to the old style.. the pamphlets... the opportunity we once had to meet and organise..
    maybe this is a blessing... because from where I am viewing this, we lost our physical, audible, sweaty spittle-shouted voices ten feet from their faces.

    Support the printers who will take on these researches and put them on PAPER... remember paper?

    this medium has atrophied the impulse to meet locally.. and make a stink.

    just an observation

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    There's interesting commentary here but nothing necessarily earth shaking, and neither do I think or agree that Alternative (sic) media is being 'toasted', as the headline may suggest - it's kind of 'baity' (sic). In fact it, alternative media, has probably never been more alive.

    I was in a musical band for a long time and I was always absolutely for 'having your own website!' and not relying on corporate behemoths to service that for you. And the boots-on-the-ground approach that snoman has shared.

    Independence and some sense of self sufficiency and an understanding, empathy if you like: understanding your audience. That can take many forms, with the rich colour of engagement, or not as the case may be, in what you are doing or sharing.

    To me it was so bloomin obvious that we'd end up here where we are now, and that there'd be this discourse, at all; this conversation at all.

    It's a me thing, whatever that is, but it smacks of a staggering naivete to not have expected us to be here now, and whatever now means. All the independent channels could have had a contingency yonks ago, but, I guess just got lazy with the convenience of the behemoth supply chain.
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    Quote Posted by Tintin Quarantino (here)
    All the independent channels could have had a contingency yonks ago, but, I guess just got lazy with the convenience of the behemoth supply chain.
    I think there's a degree of codependency. Many of the symptoms are there.

    That's a serious remark... we could maybe all reflect on that.

    Why can't the battered wife, or the abused husband, just walk out the door?

    • They keep hoping things will change.
    • They feel there's nowhere else to go. (Or if they do find somewhere, they fear friends may not be able to reach them.)
    • They're financially dependent on the status quo.
    • The familiarity of the painful situation is easier to bear than the uncertainty of not knowing what to do next.
    ... Can anyone see the similarity?
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