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    Novichok: Woman dies after exposure to nerve agent - police launch murder investigation

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e_Aq5btyB69NMk

    A mother-of-three has died after she and her partner were exposed to Novichok in Amesbury.

    Dawn Sturgess, 44, died on Sunday evening in hospital.

    Her partner Charlie Rowley, 45, is still in a critical condition after the couple fell ill last Saturday.

    Scotland Yard said they have launched a murder investigation – the second major probe involving the nerve agent this year, following the case of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in March.

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    Murder inquiry after Novichok woman dies

    8/7/18


    Dawn Sturgess collapsed at a flat in Amesbury on 30 June

    Police have launched a murder inquiry after a woman exposed to nerve agent
    Novichok in Wiltshire died.Dawn Sturgess, 44, died in hospital on Sunday evening
    after falling critically ill on 30 June.Charlie Rowley, 45, who was also exposed to the
    nerve agent in Amesbury, remains critically ill in hospital.

    Theresa May said she was "appalled and shocked" by the death, which comes after
    the poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury.A post-mortem
    examination of Ms Sturgess, from Durrington, is due to take place and her family
    has been informed, police said.The investigation is being led by detectives from the
    Counter-Terrorism Policing Network and about 100 detectives are working on the
    case alongside Wiltshire Police.

    read more.....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44760875

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    Woman dies after exposure to Soviet-era nerve agent

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jfUAkHI31s
    Published on 8 Jul 2018...CNN...( 4 mins )...
    A woman who was exposed to a Soviet-era nerve agent in Amesbury, England,
    died, the Metropolitan Police said in a written statement.

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    Woman dies after Novichok exposure

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaDa2Rzpjsk
    Published on 9 Jul 2018...RT...( 2 mins )....
    Scotland Yard police have now launched a murder inquiry after a woman who
    was exposed to Novichok died in hospital.
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    Novichok: Amesbury poisoning couple 'had high dose'

    9/7/18

    A woman who died after being exposed to the nerve agent Novichok in Wiltshire is
    believed to have had a "high dose" of the substance, police have said.

    read more.....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44768229
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    Wiltshire police issue statement on Amesbury incident

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iArKXmiABTU
    Streamed live 3 hours ago...9/7/18/....RT...( 12 mins )....
    LIVE: police issue statement on Amesbury incident

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    UK police unable to link Amesbury compound to one used in Salisbury


    Published on 9 Jul 2018....RT...( 4 mins )....
    ‘This latest incident is in its early stages of investigation, yet some officials
    have been pointing fingers at Russia already,’ says RT UK’s Anastasia
    Churkina as police update public on latest unfoldings of #Amesbury incident.
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    Discerning readers, both members and guests, who have been following this thread will have fathomed (I hope) the obvious establishment scripted version of events being proliferated by the mainstream news (sic) sources as being somewhat, well, setting the fake news standard, and, the well informed and incisive commentary from Craig Murray serving as a necessary and very important contradiction to that.

    Here’s some more from him that follows, below:

    The Amesbury Mystery

    5 Jul, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig

    We are continually presented with experts by the mainstream media who will validate whatever miraculous property of “novichok” is needed to fit in with the government’s latest wild anti-Russian story. Tonight Newsnight wheeled out a chemical weapons expert to tell us that “novichok” is “extremely persistent” and therefore that used to attack the Skripals could still be lurking potent on a bush in a park.

    Yet only three months ago we had this example of scores from the MSM giving the same message which was the government line at that time:

    “Professor Robert Stockman, of the University of Nottingham, said traces of nerve agents did not linger. He added: ‘These agents react with water to degrade, including moisture in the air, and so in the UK they would have a very limited lifetime. This is presumably why the street in Salisbury was being hosed down as a precaution – it would effectively destroy the agent.'”

    In fact, rain affecting the “novichok” on the door handle was given as the reason that the Skripals were not killed. But now the properties of the agent have to fit a new narrative, so they transmute again.

    It keeps happening. Do you remember when Novichok was the most deadly of substances, many times more powerful than VX or Sarin, and causing death in seconds? But then, when that needed to be altered to fit the government’s Skripal story, they found scientists to explain that actually no, it was pretty slow acting, absorbed gradually through the skin, and not all that deadly.

    Scientists are an interesting bunch. More than willing to ascribe whatever properties fit the government’s ever more implausible stories, in exchange for an MSM appearance fee, 5 minutes of fame and the fond hope of a research grant.

    According to the Daily Telegraph today, the unfortunate Charlie Rowley is a registered heroin addict, and if true Occam’s Razor would indicate that is a rather more likely reason for his present state than an inexplicably persistent weaponised nerve agent.

    If it is however true that two separate attacks have been carried out with “novichok” a few miles either side of Porton Down, where “novichok” is synthesised and stored for “testing purposes”, what does Occam’s razor suggest is the source of the nerve agent? A question not one MSM journalist seems to have asked themselves tonight.

    I am slightly puzzled by the picture the media are trying to paint of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess as homeless, unemployed addicts.

    The Guardian and Sky News both state that they were unemployed, yet Charlie was living in a very new house in Muggleton Road, Amesbury, which is pretty expensive. According to Zoopla homes range up to £430,000 and the cheapest ones are £270,000. They are all new build, on a new estate, which is still under construction.

    Both Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess still have active Facebook pages and one of Charlie’s handful of “Likes” is a mortgage broker, which is consistent with his brand new house.

    They don’t give mortgages to unemployed heroin addicts, and not many of those live in smart new “executive housing” estates. Both Charlie and Dawn appear from their Facebook pages to be very well socialised, with Dawn having many friends in the teaching profession. Even if she has been homeless for a period as reported, she is plainly very much part of the community.

    Naturally, there is no mention in all the reports today of MI6’s Pablo Miller, who remains the subject of a D notice. I wonder if he knows Rowley and Sturgess, living in the same community? It should be recalled that Salisbury may be a city, but its population is only 45,000.

    The most important thing is of course that Charlie and Dawn recover. But tonight, even at this early stage, as with the entire Skripal saga, the message the security services are seeking to give out does not add up.

    Mark Urban’s piece for Newsnight tonight was simply disgusting; it did not even pretend to be more than a propaganda piece on behalf of the security services, who had told Urban (as he said) that Yulia Skripal’s phone “could have been” tapped by the Russians and they “might even” have listened to her conversations through the microphone in her telephone.

    That was the “new evidence” that the Russians were behind everything.

    As a former British Ambassador I can tell you with certainty that indeed the Russians might have tapped Yulia, but GCHQ most definitely would have. It is, after all, their job, and billions of our taxes go into it.

    If tapping of phones is seriously presented as evidence of intent to murder, the British government must be very murderous indeed.
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    ....and more from Craig, here:

    "The media appear to have entirely excluded from the narrative that Porton Down specifically stated that they cannot determine the origin of the poison that attacked the Skripals. Nor has the OPCW."

    Dawn Sturgess

    9 Jul, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig

    The terrible death of Dawn Sturgess casts a new shadow over the Salisbury Affair. Dawn appears to have been a popular and well grounded woman with close friend and family ties, whose life had taken a downward turn before being cruelly ended.

    The illogical, inconsistent and shifting government narrative over events in Salisbury and Amesbury had appeared so ludicrous as to be tragi-comic. Any sense of amusement is now abruptly dispelled.

    But let us take a serious and sober look at the government case.

    Savid Javid stated today:

    "We know back in March that it was the Russians. We know it was a barbaric, inhuman act by the Russian state. Again, for this particular incident, we need to learn more and let the police do their work."


    Actually, we know no such thing and, contrary to Javid’s deliberate insinuation, the police have adduced no evidence that it was the Russian state.

    The media appear to have entirely excluded from the narrative that Porton Down specifically stated that they cannot determine the origin of the poison that attacked the Skripals. Nor has the OPCW.


    There are scores of both state and non-state actors who could have produced the nerve agent. No evidence has been produced as to the physical person who allegedly administered the poison. In short, nothing so far has been shown which would lead any reasonable person to conclude a case against the Russian state was proven.

    I believe this following is the government narrative currently. I hope I am not mistating it:

    Russia has a decade long secret programme of producing and stockpiling novichok nerve agents. It also has been training agents in secret assassination techniques, and British intelligence has a copy of the Russian training manual, which includes instruction on painting nerve agent on doorknobs.

    The Russians chose to use this assassination programme to target Sergei Skripal, a double agent who had been released from jail in Russia some eight years previously.

    Only the Russians can make novichok and only the Russians had a motive to attack the Skripals.

    The Russians had been tapping the phone of Yulia Skripal. They decided to attack Sergei Skripal while his daughter was visiting from Moscow. Their trained assassin(s) painted a novichok on the doorknob of the Skripal house in the suburbs of Salisbury. Either before or after the attack, they entered a public place in the centre of Salisbury and left a sealed container of the novichok there.

    The Skripals both touched the doorknob and both functioned perfectly normally for at least five hours, even able to eat and drink heartily.

    Then they were simultaneously and instantaneously struck down by the nerve agent, at a spot in the city centre coincidentally close to where the assassins left a sealed container of the novichok lying around. Even though the nerve agent was eight times more deadly than Sarin or VX, it did not kill the Skripals because it had been on the doorknob and affected by rain.

    Detective Sergeant Bailey attended the Skripal house and was also poisoned by the doorknb, but more lightly. None of the other police who attended the house were affected.

    Four months later, Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess were rooting about in public parks, possibly looking for cigarette butts, and accidentally came into contact with the sealed container of a novichok. They were poisoned and Dawn Sturgess subsequently died.

    I am going to leave you to mull over that story yourselves for a while. I believe it is a fair statement of the British government narrative.

    I also believe almost (but not quite) every single sentence is very obviously untrue.

    I hope tomorrow to publish a detailed analysis explaining why that is, but want you to look at it yourselves first.

    One final thought.

    I trust that Dawn Sturgess will get a proper and full public inquest in accordance with normal legal process, something which was denied to David Kelly.

    I suspect that is something the government will seek to delay as long as possible, even indefinitely.
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    Novichok victim Charlie Rowley speaks to police officers

    11/7/18


    A man who was poisoned by Novichok has spoken "briefly" to officers trying
    to find the source of the nerve agent, Scotland Yard has said.Charlie Rowley
    has been in hospital since falling ill in Amesbury on 30 June and is in a critical
    but stable condition.It comes a day after Salisbury District Hospital confirmed
    the 45-year-old had regained consciousness.

    Read more....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44791374

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    ‘Prump/Tutin’: Craziest ‘Russiagate’ conspiracy yet?


    Published on 11 Jul 2018


    The highly anticipated meeting between Donald Trump and President Putin next
    Monday in Helsinki seems to have put the media rumour mill into overdrive.

    Some parts are even speculating that the US president is a Soviet spy.

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    Dilyana Gaytandzhieva | Recent Twitter post

    Here is Dilyana's recent research into the Amesbury incident and her typical diligence has yielded the following, below: (For reference to the Skripal incident see also Hervé's post here on this thread)

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    Scroll down a little on the thread and you will see this:

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    Dawn Sturgess's Facebook page [linked on title here)

    I took a little time earlier to visit what is sadly now her legacy Facebook page and made the following observations, which are not necessarily conclusive of anything unusual going on in themselves, but reports suggesting that she may have suffered from some kind of cardiac related incident (cited from a Daily Mail article in the DG Twitter feed) may account for the lack of activity on her Facebook account between June 28th and when we were informed that this latest 'poisoning' may have occurred - a gap of 6 full days and no Facebook activity at all. (She appeared, at least between June 18th and June 27th, a daily contributor to her feed there.)
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    "The nub of the British government’s approach has been the shocking willingness of the corporate and state media to parrot repeatedly the lie that the nerve agent was Russian made, even after Porton Down said they could not tell where it was made and the OPCW confirmed that finding. In fact, while the Soviet Union did develop the “novichok” class of nerve agents, the programme involved scientists from all over the Soviet Union, especially Ukraine, Armenia and Georgia, as I myself learnt when I visited the newly decommissioned Nukus testing facility in Uzbekistan in 2002."

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    July 12th update on Craig Murray's blog where he has, in my view, successfully identified the obvious holes in the official story and its mass of contradictions in light of what has been deduced, or discovered, since by persistent and honest journalists, quizzical medical professionals and experienced former civil servants to name but a few.

    Looking forward to seeing what Craig's conclusions may well be sometime next week then. Rest assured they'll be backed up with a wealth of knowledge about how things work in high-office and behind the scenes.

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    The Holes in the Official Skripal Story
    12 Jul, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...skripal-story/

    In my last post I set out the official Government account of the events in the Skripal Case.

    Here I examine the credibility of this story.

    Next week I shall look at alternative explanations.


    Russia has a decade long secret programme of producing and stockpiling novichok nerve agents. It also has been training agents in secret assassination techniques, and British intelligence has a copy of the Russian training manual, which includes instruction on painting nerve agent on doorknobs.

    The only backing for this statement by Boris Johnson is alleged “intelligence”, and unfortunately the “intelligence” about Russia’s secret novichok programme comes from exactly the same people who brought you the intelligence about Saddam Hussein’s WMD programme, proven liars.

    Furthermore, the question arises why Britain has been sitting on this intelligence for a decade and doing nothing about it, including not telling the OPCW inspectors who certified Russia’s chemical weapons stocks as dismantled.

    If Russia really has a professional novichok assassin training programme, why was the assassination so badly botched? Surely in a decade of development they would have discovered that the alleged method of gel on doorknob did not work?

    And where is the training manual which Boris Johnson claimed to possess? Having told the world – including Russia -the UK has it, what is stopping the UK from producing it, with marks that could identify the specific copy erased?


    The Russians chose to use this assassination programme to target Sergei Skripal, a double agent who had been released from jail in Russia some eight years previously.


    It seems remarkable that the chosen target of an attempt that would blow the existence of a secret weapon and end the cover of a decade long programme, should be nobody more prominent than a middle ranking double agent who the Russians let out of jail years ago.

    If they wanted him dead they could have killed him then. Furthermore the attack on him would undermine all future possible spy swaps. Putin therefore, on this reading, was willing to sacrifice both the secrecy of the novichok programme and the spy swap card just to attack Sergei Skripal.

    That seems highly improbable.


    Only the Russians can make novichok and only the Russians had a motive to attack the Skripals.



    The nub of the British government’s approach has been the shocking willingness of the corporate and state media to parrot repeatedly the lie that the nerve agent was Russian made, even after Porton Down said they could not tell where it was made and the OPCW confirmed that finding.

    In fact, while the Soviet Union did develop the “novichok” class of nerve agents, the programme involved scientists from all over the Soviet Union, especially Ukraine, Armenia and Georgia, as I myself learnt when I visited the newly decommissioned Nukus testing facility in Uzbekistan in 2002.

    Furthermore, it was the USA who decommissioned the facility and removed equipment back to the United States. At least two key scientists from the programme moved to the United States. Formulae for several novichok have been published for over a decade. The USA, UK and Iran have definitely synthesised a number of novichok formulae and almost certainly others have done so too. Dozens of states have the ability to produce novichok, as do many sophisticated non-state actors.

    As for motive, the Russian motive might be revenge, but whether that really outweighs the international opprobrium incurred just ahead of the World Cup, in which so much prestige has been invested, is unclear.

    What is certainly untrue is that only Russia has a motive. The obvious motive is to attempt to blame and discredit Russia. Those who might wish to do this include Ukraine and Georgia, with both of which Russia is in territorial dispute, and those states and jihadist groups with which Russia is in conflict in Syria. The NATO military industrial complex also obviously has a plain motive for fuelling tension with Russia.

    There is of course the possibility that Skripal was attacked by a private gangster interest with which he was in conflict, or that the attack was linked to Skripal’s MI6 handler Pablo Miller’s work on the Orbis/Steele Russiagate dossier on Donald Trump.

    Plainly, the British governments statements that only Russia had the means and only Russia had the motive, are massive lies on both counts.


    The Russians had been tapping the phone of Yulia Skripal. They decided to attack Sergei Skripal while his daughter was visiting from Moscow.


    In an effort to shore up the government narrative, at the time of the Amesbury attack the security services put out through Pablo Miller’s long term friend, the BBC’s Mark Urban, that the Russians “may have been” tapping Yulia Skripal’s phone, and the claim that this was strong evidence that the Russians had indeed been behind the attack.

    But think this through.

    If that were true, then the Russians deliberately attacked at a time when Yulia was in the UK rather than when Sergei was alone. Yet no motive has been adduced for an attack on Yulia or why they would attack while Yulia was visiting – they could have painted his doorknob with less fear of discovery anytime he was alone.

    Furthermore, it is pretty natural that Russian intelligence would tap the phone of Yulia, and of Sergei if they could. The family of double agents are normal targets. I have no doubt in the least, from decades of experience as a British diplomat, that GCHQ have been tapping Yulia’s phone. Indeed, if tapping of phones is seriously put forward as evidence of intent to murder, the British government must be very murderous indeed.


    Their trained assassin(s) painted a novichok on the doorknob of the Skripal house in the suburbs of Salisbury. Either before or after the attack, they entered a public place in the centre of Salisbury and left a sealed container of the novichok there.


    The incompetence of the assassination beggars belief when compared to British claims of a long term production and training programme. The Russians built the heart of the International Space Station. They can kill an old bloke in Salisbury. Why did the Russians not know that the dose from the door handle was not fatal?

    Why would trained assassins leave crucial evidence lying around in a public place in Salisbury?

    Why would they be conducting any part of the operation with the novichok in a public area in central Salisbury?

    Why did nobody see them painting the doorknob?

    This must have involved wearing protective gear, which would look out of place in a Salisbury suburb. With Skripal being resettled by MI6, and a former intelligence officer himself, it beggars belief that MI6 did not fit, as standard, some basic security including a security camera on his house.


    The Skripals both touched the doorknob and both functioned perfectly normally for at least five hours, even able to eat and drink heartily. Then they were simultaneously and instantaneously struck down by the nerve agent, at a spot in the city centre coincidentally close to where the assassins left a sealed container of the novichok lying around. Even though the nerve agent was eight times more deadly than Sarin or VX, it did not kill the Skripals because it had been on the doorknob and affected by rain.


    Why did they both touch the outside doorknob in exiting and closing the door?

    Why did the novichok act so very slowly, with evidently no feeling of ill health for at least five hours, and then how did it strike both down absolutely simultaneously, so that neither can call for help, despite their being different sexes, weights, ages, metabolisms and receiving random completely uncontrolled doses?

    The odds of that happening are virtually nil. And why was the nerve agent ultimately ineffective?


    Detective Sergeant Bailey attended the Skripal house and was also poisoned by the doorknob, but more lightly. None of the other police who attended the house were affected.

    If the nerve agent had survived four months because it was in a sealed container, why has this sealed container now mysteriously disappeared again? If Rowley and Sturgess had direct contact straight from the container, why did they not both die quickly?

    Why had four months searching of Salisbury and a massive police, security service and military operation not found this container, if Rowley and Sturgess could?


    I am, with a few simple questions, demolishing what is the most ludicrous conspiracy theory I have ever heard – the Salisbury conspiracy theory being put forward by the British government and its corporate lackies.

    My next post will consider some more plausible explanations of this affair.
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    Breaking News Police find the source of the Novichoc poisoning, a small bottle has been found in the home of one of the victims

    Dont have any more info

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    Quote Breaking News Police find the source of the Novichoc poisoning, a small bottle has
    been found in the home of one of the victims.Dont have any more info...C
    Thanks Chris this is getting worse and it looks like they are still trying to blame
    Russia and keep it in the headlines before Trumps meeting with Putin on Monday.
    Or maybe they will find one of those old kids sets that are probably banned
    now...






    Fatal Novichok dose 'came from bottle' in victim's house

    4 minutes ago.....13/7/18

    Novichok that poisoned a couple in Wiltshire came from a small bottle
    found in the home of one of the victims, police say.A bottle was found
    in a search at Charlie Rowley's Amesbury house and was tested by
    scientists at Porton Down, the Metropolitan Police said.

    Mr Rowley, 45, remains in hospital in Salisbury in a serious but stable
    condition after falling ill on 30 June. His partner Dawn Sturgess, 44,
    died last weekend.Scientists at the Defence, Science and Technology
    Laboratory are still trying to establish whether the deadly substance
    found at Mr Rowley's house came from the same batch of Novichok
    that contaminated Sergei and Yulia Skripal in March.


    Read more...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44827666

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    Default Re: Sergei Skripal: who was behind the Salisbury poisoning?

    A lot of people still believe that the media can be trusted to tell the truth, Cider.
    Repetition repetition.
    Tell a life often enough etc.

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    Quote A lot of people still believe that the media can be trusted to tell the truth, Cider.
    Repetition repetition.
    Tell a life often enough etc.

    Sigh
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    I agree and it looks like it maybe a joint globalist concerted
    effort to keep this on the front pages as the US assistant
    DOJ has just dropped this....Timing this could have been
    announced any time but today gives it maximum effect....

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    I may have spoke to soon the globalists are still desperate to demonize Putin....

    Timing : Two news items have just broken.....
    12 Russian intel officers indicted in special counsel's probe



    Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein holds a press conference to announce that
    12 Russian intelligence officers have been indicted for hacking the Democratic
    National Committee during the 2016 election. Read the story here: https://fxn.ws/2ukng1L


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    'Highly likely' now basis for West's policy on Russia - Lavrov

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    Published on 13 Jul 2018...RT...( 5 mins )....
    The West’s Russia policy is built upon the infamous “highly likely thing,” Foreign
    Minister Sergey Lavrov told Larry King’s ‘Politicking’ show, saying this was
    epitomized by the alleged Russian ‘meddling’ and the Skripal affair.
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    Default Re: Sergei Skripal: who was behind the Salisbury poisoning?

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Breaking News Police find the source of the Novichoc poisoning, a small bottle has been found in the home of one of the victims

    Dont have any more info

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    Suspects in Skripal poisoning case believed to be identified
    - Press Association source



    Published on 19 Jul 2018
    Investigators in the UK believe they have identified a number
    of suspects in the March poisoning of ex-double agent Sergei
    Skripal and his daughter, the Press Association reports, citing
    an unnamed source. READ MORE: https://on.rt.com/9aly

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    Salisbury poisoning: Police 'identify Novichok suspects'
    19/7/18

    read more....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44883803
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    ‘Wild speculation’: UK Security Minister dismisses claims of identified Skripal suspects


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKKvTJC_ac

    Published on 19 Jul 2018...RT...( 4 mins )....
    UK Security Minister Ben Wallace has dismissed claims police identified
    the suspects in the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury as
    “wild speculation.”

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    Wild speculation--yet repeated on BBC News at 6pm.

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    Quote Wild speculation--yet repeated on BBC News at 6pm.

    Ch
    I agree Chris I think it was spread in the press to keep pressure on the Trump/Putin
    meeting in Helsinki and the ridiculous mainstream press and political hysteria
    going on over the pond. I did cross reference it on the 'Q' thread earlier.....

    Quote The globalists are desperate to dampen any progress after the Trump Putin
    meeting. The ridiculous frenzy of hysteria witnessed on the mainstream has
    been a mind controlled bonanza , if only they knew how gullible they are.

    Timing : Rosenstein indicting the 12 Russians before Helsinki failed. Trump
    has had to walk back some comments . But now the CIA can rely on MI5/6
    to help them out and it has been announced through the media they may/
    might/highly likely etc ...found the culprits and they are Ruissian but no
    details.....More BS for the gullible.....

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    I agree with what Trump said about --my words---- America making Russia out to be the big bad enemy.
    It makes sense to me that USA and Russia get on well for the sake of world peace.
    Nothing to be gained through cold war or otherwise.
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    Novichok victim Charlie Rowley leaves hospital: Link to post.
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    Default Re: Sergei Skripal: who was behind the Salisbury poisoning?

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Novichok victim Charlie Rowley leaves hospital: Link to post.
    Just look at that title... makes one wonder if the people at BBC have any neuron left anywhere:
    • A Novichok Nerve Gas Agent type poison leaves between 30 seconds to 3 minutes max to its contacted victim to concoct a prayer and/or collect themselves to meet their maker...
    • so, how come a "victim" of such a lethal NGA walks out of a hospital?
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