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    Default Re: CDC's Timothy Cunningham's body found in the river

    There is no testimony that can be found written and documented by Timothy Cunningham himself about any flu revelation (i.e. any documents of "his statements" that the flu for instance is being caused by vaccine). His skillset was focused on chronic diseases, examples such as heart disease, emphysema from smoking, why young kids are or are not having babies.. he had an ability to analyze statistics, and was assigned to look at reproductive health the unit he worked in. He was not assigned to an immune emergency response Unit, nor a unit that would explore vaccines.

    There are many hundreds of "allegedly" posts across the web, with no verifiable testimony from Timothy Cunningham. There are words being put in his mouth apparently by those webposts across the web. No verifiable testimony from Timothy Cunningham himself can be found; No IP records, no emails, no phone records - apparently only words being spoken by others across the web, conjecturing, using "anonymous" statements made without apparently hard-core email links, or sending links, or anything that will stand up to scrutiny from who "anonymous" is, or what the exact content was of the alleged "CDC doctor says" conspiracy - nothing that Timothy Cunningham himself makes.

    In a death investigation, what will have to be done is Cunningham's computer(s) and work and home, his cellphone will have to be analyzed by the authorities to see what emails were originated, what calls were made at work or home, to backtrack. Publishing false information required in an official investigation, publishing "spin" can lead to an obstruction of justice charge, a felony, arrest and incarceration looms. Any claims have to be documented and legit.

    Anyone claiming that they have confidential information such as "whistleblowing information" then have put themselves up for scrutiny to see what was communicated in actuality (if such in fact happened). The police or investigators are under no obligation to reveal to the public what they have found or not found. The police and investigators will present their information to a Prosecuter, either local or State, or Federal, and there will be a complaint or numerous complaints filed. At that point subpoenas can be issued, information/records seized.

    Those claiming to have had personal communications from Cunningham have most certainly targeted themselves, and it seems incredulous to me that one would rationally do such a thing. One then is left to attempt to figure out the motives.

    It was pointed out historical data, where most likely the flu/vaccine conspiracy started, (within the EIS early research). And historically no doubt taken out of context; (probably the reasoning being to be emotional but to not want people to see exactly why there is a danger with the flu/vaccine contents - don't bother with facts in-other-words - just stir up emotion).

    To get to the 'truth' one has to do proper research using the available verifiable research that is obtainable. There is a lot of transparency out there, and there are reliable folks who can work within their job title to share hard-core-verifiable data. It takes effort to find that. Just staying on an emotional flow and ignoring rationality can be what appears to offer a comfort level, but that can be just as false as "flat earth".. Comfort aside digging into history is needed.

    One can look on the web and find that there are those who will use their opinions to attempt to create something other larger than life so to speak. There is even a section, which was pointed out in an earlier post investigating what Cunningham would have to have passed muster in his job interview for his employment in the Chronic disease Unit, as an Epidemiologist. It was pointed out by researching across various stable recognized accurate databases various definitions. Such was posted to share reasoning so that one could be able to logically analyze for themselves, and not rely in hearsay.

    This below is the historic documentation about the EIS where the vaccine conspiracy started (cited in an earlier post) - it had nothing to do with FLU vaccine.:

    Quote One investigation put CDC and applied epidemiology in the public eye for the first time. On April 12, 1955 (the anniversary of the death of Franklin Roosevelt), the favorable results of the field trial of inactivated poliovirus vaccine were announced; 5 days later, a massive national vaccination campaign was initiated.

    However, within a week, paralytic polio was diagnosed in a child who had received the vaccine, and as new cases emerged, Langmuir was called on to investigate.

    A surveillance unit was set up and began issuing daily reports. On May 8, the U.S. Surgeon General declared a moratorium on the program.

    Using all the EIS officers and working with the states, CDC established the association with two lots of vaccine from one manufacturer, cleared the other four manufacturers, and persuaded public authorities by June 1 to restart the program.
    It seems to me, it will do the readers good to show, if it exists where precise data that can be documented that Timothy Cunningham states (information that will stand up in Court) himself his "alleged whistleblowing statements". Exact link or links please on that. All we have seen are re-hashes of others on the web making unprovable statements, and that is not fair it seems to me in any investigative discovery. Opinion should be stated as such, not have anything as opinion presented as fact or made to seem like fact by stringing together "emotional" triggers (that would be trolling) to sway or detract from finding truth. That is fairness and responsibility.

    The question has been posed, was Cunningham distraught about being passed over for a Salary Raise? Was he going to complain to upper management about having to have a Title for a higher salaried position, but not being paid for it? Was there someone concerned that they would be exposed for having Cunningham do more work at lesser pay?

    Those are simple questions, not conspiratorial, not about "vaccines" or "flu" - it goes over what may be a logical explanation looking at "human nature" in the workplace.
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    Default Re: CDC's Timothy Cunningham's body found in the river

    They have been provided:

    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    Quote Posted by Bob (here)
    Quote We know from his written testimony that this statement is NOT true:
    "...and supports state chronic disease prevention activities."

    He came forward regarding the MMR vaccine and autism. He stated that the flu vaccine was causing the deadly flu outbreak. He seemed surprised in 2014 that his name was outed for revealing this information and stated his fate could be in danger.

    These are basic facts.

    We also have seen a number of deaths for others, as well as retaliation measures against those who oppose the criminal vaccine [intentional depopulation programs through infertility, death, immune compromising effects, and mental and other physical debilitation damages] initiatives. In other words, we know the truth.

    Job description and promotion details aside, Dr. Cunningham was a whistleblower with a conscience and is a hero for speaking out when he knew full well that the consequences that he faced could be fatal.

    God Bless him. There are many heroes who have given their life for this truth to come out.

    The CDC and anyone in our government that supports them and their activities are complicit in these crimes against humanity. Once we know the truth, we are responsible, too. We can let people know the truth about autism and point to the statements that Dr. Timothy Cunningham made about the flu to verify these are not conspiracy theories, but facts backed by research by scientists.

    I will honor him by spreading his message. It has already come up in conversations I've had.

    Remember the "spider" group? The scientists from within the CDC that came forward anonymously? I'm going to review that now. If anyone can link related posts, I'd appreciate it. I'm going to search now...

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    Please show the reference where Timothy Cunningham made that statement. It was pointed out:

    In article on a site called YourNewsWire.com from January 2018.

    The article quoted an anonymous CDC doctor who said, “we have seen people dying across the country of the flu, and one thing nearly all of them have in common is they got the flu shot.”While the article doesn't name Cunningham, some are outing him as the Whistleblower, saying it was too convenient he went missing.

    Please show where the anonymous doctor (remember Cunningham is NOT A MD, he is the equivalent of a phD, specifically one specializing in SCIENCE not philosophy) is Cunningham. Cunningham could not have been the MEDICAL DOCTOR then that is quoted "anonymously"..

    Link please where Cunningham claims such.

    Specific exact testimony REFERENCES please.

    The reference that was given in the above post - https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1128318 has absolutely NO REFERENCE TO CUNNINGHAM.

    The "claims" are that CUNNINGHAM is a whistleblower (vaccine topic comes up in conspiracy stuff). The references provided cannot be found so far - CUNNINGHAM appears to never ever made any such revelation anywhere at any time.
    The flu shot related to flu vaccine was provided in this post:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1218376

    "In January, Dr. Cunningham shared his opinion that this year's flu shot was behind the deadly outbreak of the flu, while warning that if his name was attached to the widely circulating quotes, he would lose his job--or suffer an even worse fate."

    The MMR vaccine connected to autism evidence was provided in this post in the letter written by Dr. Timothy Cunningham:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1218404

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    Default Re: CDC's Timothy Cunningham's body found in the river

    Going to the links referenced above, once again, there links's subject/content are NOT written by Timothy Cunningham.

    Here is the author, a screen-shot from the article cited. William W. Thompson does not mention Timothy Cunningham, nor is there ANY statement similarly by Timothy Cunningham to the effect agreeing or corroborating Thompson's statements. There just aren't. It seems clear to me that Thompson can't fairly jump to a conclusion lumping in Cunningham by this fellow's statements. That would be libelous in the minimum. Attacking the credentials and people in a broad sweep.

    Thompson cannot legitimately speak for all people in the organization's many Units and divisions. To use the world "all" of us would mean many people would be able to testify, and that hasn't happened. To look at things logically makes sense.

    That's like saying all teachers are bad because one teacher somewhere in the world did a bad thing. A lot of teachers it seems to me would take offense if they were "lumped" into a broad sweeping statement.

    Thompson's letter also says Possibility of a Relationship. Possibility is not the same as there is absolutely a direct tie or relationship. def "possible": "A particular event that may happen. possible(Adjective) Able but not certain to happen.."

    Cunningham for whatever reason is being discussed about alleged "vaccine views"; there is no statement that can be considered "testimony" by Cunningham that he would agree, or disagree with Thompson. And Thompson legitimately doesn't have a crystal ball to be able to speak for the whole of many organizations. Timothy Cunningham was not part of the division that Thompson was associated. Thompson can't legitimately in all fairness speak for hundreds if not thousands of employees. Reading the full report/letter looks like what appears to me to be what a disgruntled person may write to create the most harm against an employer. Maybe it is not that, I can't tell for sure though.


    There is no testimony by Timothy Cunningham that can be found corroborating Thompson.

    Quote The flu shot related to flu vaccine was provided in this post:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1218376

    "In January, Dr. Cunningham shared his opinion that this year's flu shot was behind the deadly outbreak of the flu, while warning that if his name was attached to the widely circulating quotes, he would lose his job--or suffer an even worse fate."

    The MMR vaccine connected to autism evidence was provided in this post in the letter written by Dr. Timothy Cunningham:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1218404

    MM
    There is no testimony from Cunningham that he said that, or "shared his opinion". There are across the world wide web internet conspiracy posts, numerous ones, apparently using similar statements, again without documentable testimony (stuff that stands up in Court) that Cunningham ever said any such thing.

    The last link gets one to the conjecture post from ShiftFrequency - https://www.shiftfrequency.com/cdc-d...am-disappears/

    Nowhere does Timothy Cunningham himself corroborate; it seems clear to me one is reading opinion, not testimony.

    Following this maze, the ShiftFrequency author gets into using some conjecture from NewSWire - http://yournewswire.com/cdc-flu-shot-deadly-outbreak/

    Nowhere does Cunningham himself say, that he is the anonymous Doctor from CDC.

    From the OP post 1:

    Quote Timothy Cunningham

    Commander, US Public Health Service

    Division of Population Health

    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

    Atlanta, Georgia

    Dr. Cunningham joined CDC in 2010 as part of its Epidemic Intelligence Service and worked in the Division of Reproductive Health.
    It was documented in an earlier post accurately, what the Epidemic Intelligence Service is and what the Epidemiologist title is. Point by point clearly - the anomaly about Supervisor and supervisory activities was raised, and questions asked about did Cunningham have an issue with not being paid for doing "supervisory duties"..

    The author apparently of the NewsWire article being cited:

    Quote Baxter Dmitry
    Baxter Dmitry is a writer at Your News Wire. He covers politics, business and entertainment. Speaking truth to power since he learned to talk, Baxter has travelled in over 80 countries and won arguments in every single one. Live without fear.
    Email: baxter@yournewswire.com
    Follow: @baxter_dmitry
    Politics, business and entertainment. There doesn't appear to be any medical qualifications or medical experience or ability to interpret a medical statement in that bio from the main "author" behind the conspiracy trying to link Cunningham to Vax. It seems to me one can read a lot of bashing and fear mongering in the article written by Dmitry.

    There are No references that the so called "Dr" making the statement, nor any statements made by W. Thomas are directly quoting Cunningham by Baxter Dmitry. There are no references, no citations, nothing but Dmitry's article citing an anonymous Dr. Conjecture, bashing, opinion without references to Cunningham; since the thread is Cunningham's death, and the statements made by the officials, off-topic diverts from why he died.

    In any objective legitimate investigation, one needs to work with evidence, actual provable statements made by Timothy Cunningham and his immediate supervisor, and remove opinion if one is trying to legitimately prove.

    The thread is not about anti-vaxing, or vaxing. Staying on topic is good forum etiquette.

    It was started to look at a person who disappeared, state his background, and job title and where he worked.

    It was found, that he apparently disappeared under unusual circumstances.

    What was uncovered were contradictions in "official" posting from the main organization, CDC, and contradictions of a bio for Cunningham in a Journal. Those were cited in documenting posts.

    What was contradictory also was police reports about him not receiving a "promotion" and the suggestion was, maybe Unpaid promotion, verses a Pay raise is the conceptual discrepancy. Such seemed to differ from the CDC's statements saying he was promoted to Commander.

    This quote below from that article in News Wire also was debunked earlier (the 'article' apparently is a major source of the "conspiracies" that keep getting re-hashed, reposted with a new "twist" or dig, over and over simply using Other webpages that are also spreading the "conspiracy"):

    Quote This deadly pattern is replicating itself across the country. Yet health officials are still telling people to get the flu shot, even though it does not work well this season. Health officials have started admitting that the vaccine is only 10% effective.
    Absolutely nothing in that appears to have anything to do with Cunningham having made any sworn testimony - Cunningham made no such statement that can be found anywhere.

    In post 14 above, the newswire article was caught getting data incorrect:
    Quote YourNewsWire.com made several false statements in their article including that the flu vaccine is only 10 percent effective (it's not--it's 36% effective according to health officials) and that 2018 has been the deadliest flu season (it hasn't--in 1918 the epidemic killed millions according to National Archives).

    The article says not to trust 'Big Pharma' and the 'Mainstream Media.' It was hollow of credible sources and verified facts.

    We (the debunkers) checked with police and they say they are aware of these conspiracies. They say Cunningham wasn't authorized to see classified information.

    "Dr. Cunningham worked in the chronic disease unit, which is not the infectious disease unit, he had no access to classified material," O'Connor said. "[The CDC doesn't] believe that his employment would be cause for something like that to occur because he simply doesn't have access to those types of things."

    We can Verify, the missing CDC scientist was not about to blow the top off of some major CDC coverup.
    Cunningham was part of Chronic Disease Unit.. Not part of a "vaxing unit". Not part of an infectious disease unit. The conspiracies neglect to focus on where Cunningham worked, but instead lump him indiscriminately to CDC in general - broad strokes to what seems to apparently suit conspiracy theories.. To prove something one has to be exact and precise. Not Sorcha-Faal-like. see for instance: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1201478/pg1 (the mod will happily "declare" that ALL threads using Sorcha Faal as a source, directly or indirectly, will be put in the dread ATS [HOAX] Forum as soon as they are discovered by staff or reported by the Membership. We do NOT want to support such garbage with any publicity ...)

    The CDC is a big place with many employees and many specialty groups. It's pretty logical that folks from different Units would not interact with one another, and nobody, not even the "Director" can speak for what is happening in the whole organization. That one would assume is common sense.

    That Cunningham was working in the Chronic Disease Unit, is different than what Thompson was talking about a "possible link" between MMR vaccine.

    And to make things technically correct, Thompson whose so-called "whistleblower" letter is used across the internet, contains the qualifier words Possibility of a Relationship - Possibility means not definite, not proved. (That I feel is a proper way to address potential, not citing that such is Fact). Possibly Others have apparently not realized or understood what the word Possible means. The other word, "relationship" - means the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected. Put the two together, "possibility of a relationship" is maybe, it means not necessarily fact.

    Where does physical proof exist that Cunningham had sent a letter or talked to the author? Dmitry offers no proof. What is written by Dmitry is not corroborated by Cunningham (hearsay is not testimony, nor is saying stuff that a dead man has no way to stand up for himself and challenge.. convenient eh?) :

    Quote
    From the ShiftFrequency Link - ShiftFrequency appears to tell as fact and as proof Cunningham made a statement:

    "That was the last time anyone saw him and he hasn’t been heard from since that day.

    "In January, Dr. Cunningham shared his opinion that this year’s flu shot was behind the deadly outbreak of the flu, while warning that if his name was attached to the widely-circulated quotes, he would lose his job – or suffer an even worse fate.

    "Understanding the dangers involved in speaking out about vaccines in the current climate, we granted him anonymity in the article. However Dr. Cunningham told us we should go public should anything happen to him.

    "Dr. Cunningham was an expert on contagious epidemics, having been deployed by the CDC to work on the Ebola and Zika crises in previous years. He knows a suspicious outbreak when he sees one, and this year’s flu epidemic raised serious red flag’s for the CDC doctor."
    The ShiftFrequency article does not document any proof, of verifiable testimony by Cunningham, no documents have been shown provided by Cunningham verifying such "alleged communications".. the article would seem to contain a lot of opinion that is written to have it seem like Fact - Q: is that article more spin than complete truth coming out of Dmitry and ShiftFrequency?
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    Default Re: CDC's Timothy Cunningham's body found in the river

    You're right..both of these letters are from William Thompson:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/atta...1&d=1523024691

    Here is an article that Thompson states "WE were ordered to cover up..." And "my co-authors and I..."

    Cunningham and Thompson: CDC
    https://realfarmacy.com/cdc-researcher-dead/

    And...
    Paul Thorson -fraudulent data manipulator flees to Europe

    Clearly the truth has been covered up and Dr. Timothy Cunningham was part of the truth-telling team.

    Look at Mike Adams report and all of the other combined opinions of the circumstantial evidence of foul play.

    His suspicious death is a testimony.

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    Default Re: CDC's Timothy Cunningham's body found in the river

    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    You're right..both of these letters are from William Thompson:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/atta...1&d=1523024691

    Here is an article that Thompson states "WE were ordered to cover up..." And "my co-authors and I..."

    Cunningham and Thompson: CDC
    https://realfarmacy.com/cdc-researcher-dead/

    And...
    Paul Thorson -fraudulent data manipulator flees to Europe

    Clearly the truth has been covered up and Dr. Timothy Cunningham was part of the truth-telling team.

    Look at Mike Adams report and all of the other combined opinions of the circumstantial evidence of foul play.

    His suspicious death is a testimony.

    MM
    Went to the links and once again there is no direct statement by Cunningham that he tried to cover anything up, that he participated with giving vaccines, or even worked with vaccines. All that gets into has nothing to do where Cunningham worked, in the chronic unit..

    The conspiracy originated in the thread asked about was he distraught about not getting a raise, for having to do more work.

    Was he silenced for potentially pointing that out to a higher up than his immediate supervisor. Did a disgruntled worker "dose" him with something, potentially for revealing maybe discrimination? Those are valid questions. Cunningham was trained to look at emergency situations, potential epidemics. That's why all the background details were posted about his training, and job position.

    The other key question is the job title deals with chronic disease, not something "caught" via an infection. That he had to do other training for emergency epidemics no doubt was one of the reasons why he would want to have More Pay for work performed. That he may have wanted more pay and was refused, no doubt could trigger a person to maybe not feel well, or cause the person to "have a bad day", maybe curse out his supervisor who could have said "you're fired" if you don't apologize, or possibly his supervisor cursed him out or actually discriminated.. All conjecture more about how human nature could work in a stressful job position. Here is another thought... Could Cunningham say well he would FAKE something making a statement to extort the CDC or his supervisor, to get more pay? We don't know.. But all of that could be possible..

    Seems to me the conspiracy links cited do a good job slamming the CDC and don't specifically take into account, CDC is a big place, and if there is something mucky going on elsewhere, to link EVERY employee into a quagmire is not fair to all the people working there.

    I would like the answers about his death. There were many posters put on telephone posts with his picture, a call-in number to report sightings. The man most certainly was real. Did he slip, did someone push him, did he "go for a swim" - no idea one could conjecture anything or get emotionally moved about many topics. A man died, how, why are there discrepancies in reports?

    Logical questions to ask. Given a way to stay on topic, solving a mystery is possible. Deviating away from getting the questions solved slows down getting a mystery sorted. I most certainly appreciate hearing about one's concerns about vaccines, and have looked at the vax and anti-vax topic. I don't like vaccines. I don't like what adjuvants are in them. I don't like the potential for auto-immune response.. All of that though is not on-topic about how did Cunningham die, why are there discrepancies in official reporting, why is a bio different in two official publications.

    Could Cunningham have texted his parent to say he did something he regrets? Is that why the communications is being withheld? We just don't know.. So looking at human nature, the simplest common denominator would make the most sense at the outset.
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    Default Re: CDC's Timothy Cunningham's body found in the river

    SPIDER group - scientists at the CDC concerned about ethics:
    Letter sent to Chief of Staff on August 29, 2016
    https://usrtk.org/wp-content/uploads...R_Letter-1.pdf
    ___________________
    Cunningham
    This video speculates knowledge of letters contains white powder going out in same time frame of his disappearance.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i55xNWdGg

    * Feb. 9 Cunningham send parents "troubling" text messages (can't or won't reveal content)
    * Cunningham requests neighbors delete his number from their phone
    * MSM tries to manage narrative regarding promotion to "get ahead of the game" ("promotions don't come out until summer")
    * Feb. 12 Cunningham goes missing same day white powder envelope is delivered to Trump Jr. Wife
    * leaves behind dog (friends say he would never do that), and keys, wallet, and car
    * Arlington military base: letters with white powder- 11 affected - burning hands and bloody noses
    * Mentions Assange also received letter with white powder (see Assange's tweet in article below)
    ~~~~~~This video was created BEFORE his body was found.~~~~~
    _______________
    On February 6, Assange received envelope with white powder from the U.S.
    https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/02...ed-to-embassy/
    _______________
    Dr. Cunningham reportedly warned if he kept talking about flu shot dangers something could happen to him.
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1200784/pg1

    Something DID happen to him.
    ____________________________
    "Prior to his disappearance, Cunningham's family stated that he warned them and others about the flu shot and warned them in the event of his disappearance or death it would be related to him knowing secret information about the outbreak."

    https://wiznation.com/2576603/atlant...-the-flu-shot/
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    My intuition can discern MSM propaganda from what all else points to.
    Let each person use their own intuitive intelligence to sort out truth from propaganda cover up.
    The very use of the term "conspiracy" which is often used to discredit truth is suspect.

    I have nothing to prove. I trust my instincts on this one.
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    Default Re: CDC's Timothy Cunningham's body found in the river

    .
    Here's some of what I figure, so far, in this matter:
    • The CDC is a deeply captured agency of a genocidal deep state medical establishment.
    • Being a potential risk, perhaps as a qualified CDC employee, to expose this, can be a life threatening situation.
    • Nothing I've seen so far tells me who or even what caused Cunningham's death, ,whether by his own suicidal hand, or by someone else's murderous hand, or by accident or natural causes. I agree with Bob on this point.
    • It would not surprise me in the slightest if Cunningham was murdered for knowing too much about vaccines.
    • It also would not surprise me in the slightest if Cunningham was murdered for knowing too much about some other CDC activity.
    • Nor would it surprise all that much me if Cunningham's death was more or less unrelated to his CDC employment, though being a card carrying member of the Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy Theory Nut Case Society, TFHCTNCS, I doubt this.
    • I do NOT trust official, public, statements and records of the CDC any further than I could throw their Atlanta headquarters building.
    • It would not surprise me if the article connecting Cunningham's death to the CDC vaccine cover-up, without any evidence, was planted.
    • Even if not intentionally planted by deep state pro-vaxxer agents, it's not surprising that such an article would appear, given the present environment of high crimes, high tensions, and high deceit surrounding vaccines.
    • Either way, whether a deliberate plant or a jump to conclusions unjustified by the published and reliable evidence (is there any such?), it's quite unsurprising that then other conspiracy theory minded, anti-vaxxers (I number myself in that crowd, and perhaps Michelle Marie would as well) would quote and extend this alleged connection, between Cunningham's death and the CDC vaccine cover-up
    • If that happened, then someone (perhaps someone whose forum name was "Bob") could pour a ton of "evidence" (official statements and records, combined with logic and analysis) discrediting the "conspiracy theory" that Cunningham's death was connected to the CDC vaccine cover-up.
    • End results:
    • ........ Those who haven't already "gone over to the" dark anti-vaxxer side would conclude that us conspiracy theory minded, anti-vaxxers were once again shown to be nut cases jumping to conclusions without evidence.
    • ........ Once again, the genocidal crimes against humanity by the vaccine mafia, including their agent the CDC, would be obfuscated behind a cloud of confusion and official sounding statements, apparently exonerating the CDC and discrediting the anti-vaxxer's.
    I urge us all to continue the fight against vaccines, and against agents of the vaccine mafia, including the CDC.
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    • It would not surprise me if the article connecting Cunningham's death to the CDC vaccine cover-up, without any evidence, was planted.
    Actually, there does seem to be some evidence connecting Cunningham with opposition to the flu shot, as posted by Michelle Marie, just above my post, while I was composing my post.
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    • It would not surprise me if the article connecting Cunningham's death to the CDC vaccine cover-up, without any evidence, was planted.
    Actually, there does seem to be some evidence connecting Cunningham with opposition to the flu shot, as posted by Michelle Marie, just above my post, while I was composing my post.
    What about the MSM report on his Parents not saying what was in the text? Would his parents reveal what he said? That would be proof, no? that he was worried. Then the question is who whacked him? And why? iF indeed he was whacked and didn't just slip and fall in trying to clear his head maybe on a slippery bank of the River. Conjecture and opinion are that. Fact is fact.

    Trying Cunningham in the court of social media certainly is happening.

    I'd like to see what his parents said, that Timothy said to them maybe something about vaxing, or "white powders". Why is that communication being withheld? Most certainly withholding communications feeds conspiracy, no? I'd opt that he was going to report his supervisor for discrimination and he feared for his life when/if he was threatened.. that would be my conjecture, guess and/or opinion. Possibly something about being annoyed, maybe even he threatened his superior for him not getting a pay raise for extra work performed. More like could/would happen in a workplace environment that is stressful. Especially if bills need to be paid and the "raise" would have solved something he needed to have paid.. Conjecture/speculation/opinion... Not fact, not one bit. And stated as opinion.

    Quote "Prior to his disappearance, Cunningham's family stated that he warned them and others about the flu shot and warned them in the event of his disappearance or death it would be related to him knowing secret information about the outbreak."

    from MM's post above..
    Again it is important and logical to ask for proof to show us the documentation, not any hearsay from MSM. I just don't believe MSM, I would believe Cunningham's testimony, and I would believe a filed police report which cited forensics on how he died, what toxins/substances were in his body (examiner's report).

    Documentation that stands up for a police investigation into a death. Cops said no foul play (not proved), and MSM says parents say... One could cherry pick any MSM article and use it to make point. MSM opinions, or hearsay, doesn't stand up during an official legal investigation of why the poor fellow died.

    If one is insisting about needing to read up on vaxing I suggest looking at Herve's post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1217424

    THAT post Herve' did is a good clear post with verifiable technical data and documents and has nothing to do with lumping Timothy Cunningham into vaxing.

    (PS - I do like your figure observations Paul, btw. No argument, just acknowledgement and great observations)..
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    Again it is important and logical to ask for proof to show us the documentation, not any hearsay from MSM.
    Everything we have regarding this is hearsay. I couldn't convict someone of a parking ticket with the evidence we have so far.

    Everything ... hearsay ... including whatever the CDC has made public regarding Cunningham's work there.

    I don't actually have court admissible evidence that this Cunningham person ever existed, that he died recently, or that he ever worked at the CDC.

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    What we do have is a small mountain of hearsay evidence, building up over time, suggesting that the CDC has the means, motive and opportunity to be substantially complicit in a heinous vaccination program, including in the untimely death of individuals who were in a position to be a threat to that program.

    Cunningham's untimely death fits within that scenario. We don't know, and if any of us did know, I'd recommend to that person that they keep their Last Will & Testament up to date.

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    One can appear to have a bias in discussions such as these, when one both (1) correctly notices that the evidence available is inconclusive, inconsistent and hearsay, and (2) sites at considerable length and rather uncritically one of the sources (the CDC in this case) in order to make the point that other proffered evidence is inconsistent or hearsay.

    ===

    When dealing with a case hinging on hearsay evidence, the credibility, and biases, of the witnesses is especially important.

    ===

    Currently my best guess is that Cunningham lived, that he worked at the CDC, that he warned others about the flu shot, and that that is why he meant an untimely death.

    But that could just be my biases coming through, which are anti-vaxxer, anti-medical-establishment, anti-CDC, and often pro-conspiracy theories.

    What are your biases?
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    Seems to me a forum is about exchanging ideas between the members, in a friendly succinct way, to look at the primary theme and openly be willing to look at opinions, or biases of others and have a way to communicate objectively, kindly and fairly. If the objective is to find truth, many people can have many viewpoints and thoughts, and eventually it seems to me, that folks will be able to solve, sort or understand what may be happening, or happened, in the case of Cunningham, what may have caused his death (accidental or deliberate), or why there are discrepancies in the numerous reporting sources.

    In the op we went for exploring what a police report said, and what the CDC said is his bio. Many commented (thank you all !) about what they thought happened. It wasn't a thread for vaccine or cdc bashing, although that came up, and of course folks are able to passionately state their mind.

    I don't like vaccines, I have said that and have pointed out folks should look at Herve's wonderful post about actual science behind why a vaccine can cause harm. Objectivity. And that should be it for vaxing on this thread, the references are there to go to the vaxing thread to stay on-topic. Seems like a good thought.

    I think discussing biases would be off-topic for this thread - that is my opinion. I would refer the reader to this page, if they want to get into a thread on bias. Purely to stay on-topic and not deviate a thread on Cunningham and what happened to him and why. see: http://examples.yourdictionary.com/e...s-of-bias.html

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    What are your biases?
    As far as I know an opinion or belief isn't necessarily bias. A bias implies incompetent judgement, an inability to judge clearly. It is possible to judge something without bias.

    bi·as
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    Seems like getting at the "truth" should always be our priority! Isn't that why we are here?! I know my whole world view, excuse me, that should be Universe View has changed drastically since joining!

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    Seems like getting at the "truth" should always be our priority! Isn't that why we are here?! I know my whole world view, excuse me, that should be Universe View has changed drastically since joining!
    Getting the truth via alternative means is commonly called conspiracy theory. This story given the few reports needs a conspiracy theory to explain, and as such cannot have indisputable evidence. If we don't search for a conspiracy explanation, and always demand ourselves for 97.5% indisputable proofs, TPTB will be very happy and they don't need to kill whistleblowers or censor the media. I would define conspiracy theory as the science of explaining an event or phenomenon using primarily circumstantial evidence, but with strong logical reasoning that employs methods such as

    1. Refuting multiple coincidences as merely coincidences.
    2. dot connecting.
    3. viewing at a wider angle and historical perspective.
    4. source tracing.
    5. Always asking cui bono.

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    Here is an impression of his heart based entirely on his photograph above. I have known people who looked very much like him. He was a decent person, I believe, and someone felt he had to be silenced because he would not betray his human decency.

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    Before going out of town Friday morning I shot this quick vid, obviously leaving out the theories. Like Mike, I couldn’t help but make a connection between Cunningham’s disappearance and the Missing 411 patterns. One of the local Atlanta news reports said that he was an avid crystal collector and had 3 in his pocket when his body was found.


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    Hi everybody,

    I've been keeping tabs on this post for quite a while now. I happened to notice KSAT (my home news) post an alarming article today about a 'nightmare bacteria' that "can kill up to 50% who catch it"

    http://https://www.simplemost.com/an...rtner=gmg_ksat

    Makes me wonder if Mr. Cunningham was aware of this biowarfare?

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    Quote Posted by starlight (here)
    Hi everybody,

    I've been keeping tabs on this post for quite a while now. I happened to notice KSAT (my home news) post an alarming article today about a 'nightmare bacteria' that "can kill up to 50% who catch it"

    http://https://www.simplemost.com/antibiotic-resistant-bacteria-are-sweeping-the-us-cdc-identifies-221-nightmare-bacteria/?utm_campaign=snd_gmg_ksat&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=partner&utm_partner=gmg_ksat

    Makes me wonder if Mr. Cunningham was aware of this biowarfare?
    Corrected the typo in your link - thanks for this post !
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    Here is Joseph P. Farrell's take on this. Some of the references cross pollinate with what has been cited here on this thread from other sources.

    The tone, and the numerous exchanges gave us reason to be concerned about Tim,” said Terrell Cunningham. “And I don’t know if it’s an instinct you have because it’s your child, but it was not a normal conversation and I was not comfortable.”

    https://gizadeathstar.com/2018/04/bo...ningham-found/

    BODY OF DR. TIMOTHY CUNNINGHAM FOUND

    APRIL 10, 2018 BY JOSEPH P. FARRELL

    A few weeks ago I blogged about the latest in a long line of disappearances and mysterious deaths of physicians who buck the "standard narrative". In this case it was about the disappearance of CDC physician Dr. Timothy Cunningham, who disappeared on February 12 this year. Sadly, Dr. Cunningham's body has now been found, according to these two stories shared by Ms. N.C. and Mr. H.B.:

    There's much here that does not add up.

    First, consider the fact that his body was only just recently discovered in the river not too far from his home, but in an area which had been previously thoroughly searched:

    “The muddy river spot where the officer was found wasn't too far from his house, but there weren't any roads or running trails nearby, so it's not clear exactly how Cunningham got in there. Police say they'd conducted a "very thorough" search of the riverbanks in that area on February 23, but didn't find any signs of the missing commander.

    "We may never be able to tell you how he got into the river," O'Connor said. Doctors who've examined his body say there's no evidence of trauma or foul play, and they believe the cause of death is drowning.””


    OK... let me get this straight: Dr. Cunningham, a US Navy officer - a commander - supposedly drowned at some point, in a river near his home, but in an area which had been previously searched. Did the police simply miss seeing him before, or did Dr. Cunningham drown himself somewhere else? If so, how did his body get to where it was eventually found? Who transported it there, and why? If there is no foul play involved, why bother to move the body at all?

    In short, I'm not buying for a moment that there's no "foul play". The above two cited paragraphs are so self-evidently contradictory that I cannot imagine any competent district attorney not suspecting foul play.
    There are other additional details that raise serious questions:

    The family of Timothy J. Cunningham, 35, grew concerned after the Harvard-trained epidemiologist and US Navy officer wouldn't answer texts or calls. Driving over 600 miles from Maryland to Atlanta, Cunningham's parents gained access to his house where they found their son's phone, wallet and driver's license.

    Quoted by the NYT, his father said that Commander Cunningham had “a lot going on” personally and professionally, and his most recent conversation with his son had left him worried.

    “The tone, and the numerous exchanges gave us reason to be concerned about Tim,” said Terrell Cunningham. “And I don’t know if it’s an instinct you have because it’s your child, but it was not a normal conversation and I was not comfortable.”

    Cunningham's car was parked in the garage, while his dog - Mr. Bojangles, aka Bo, was left all by himself.

    Cunningham left work at the CDC on Feb 12, 2018, claiming he was feeling sick. When he was discovered, he was wearing his favorite jogging shoes:

    The Atlanta Police Department confirmed to Business Insider that Timothy Cunningham's body was recovered in the Chattahoochee River in northwest Atlanta. Cunningham was wearing his favorite jogging shoes when he was found by a group of fishermen, police said.

    So apparently Dr. Cunningham left work, drove home, parked his car in his garage, put on his jogging clothes, and went for a jog (in spite of having left work feeling sick), leaving all his personal identification in his house, along with his dog, and phone.

    This is, again, a little incredible to me, for one would think that Dr. Cunningham would want at least some means of self-identification, or a means to summon help if he needed to; so why leave his phone and identification documents at home? Did Dr. Cunningham leave work that day - not because he was feeling sick - but rather, to take a meeting with someone? Was he instructed not to bring any identification or phone?

    There's much here that disturbs and very little that consoles, and there's no doubt in my mind that Dr. Cunningham was the victim of foul play. Given his parents' concerns over their last phone conversations with their son, the whole thing suggests that Dr Cunningham may have learned, or suspected, something, but what that may have been, we do not presently know. A clue, however, is perhaps afforded by a glimpse at his brief CDC bio:

    Timothy J. Cunningham, ScD

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    What I find intriguing about the biographical note are the following statements:

    "Dr. Cunningham trained with CDC as an Epidemic Intelligence Service officer. His research has been oriented towards understanding health differences related to race/ethnicity, socioeconomic status, gender, and geography. Dr. Cunningham has also deployed for numerous public health emergencies, including Superstorm Sandy, Ebola, and Zika." (Emphasis added)

    In other words, Dr. Cunningham would have been in a unique position to notice emergent health care trends in various demographic groups, including anything suggestive of biological or genetic warfare.

    I don't know about you, but I personally think the Cunningham family is entirely correct to be suspicious of the whole thing.

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