The Rape of Russia -- Coming to the United States

[ThePythonicCow]

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Over the last few months, Catherine Austin Fitts and Joseph P. Farrell have been noticing that the United States is being setup for the same raping and pillaging that was done to Russia in the 1990's.

Roughly, what happened to Russia in the 1990's was that their economy was crashed, and their resources sold off to insiders for pennies on the dollar (or, as Farrell notes, kopeks on the ruble.) Many starved to death, and times were very hard.

Now the United States is itself being setup for the same "privatization", which will represent an enormous transfer of wealth from the people of the United States into the hands of a few insiders.

The best presentation of this analysis was done by Fitts and Farrell, in Fitts "1st Quarter 2018 Wrap Up, News Trends & Stories, Part I with Dr. Joseph Farrell", and posted for her (paying) members on her Solari.com website. This is a several hour long discussion between the two of them, discussing several major topics important to understanding recent American and global political and economic events.

On the recommendation of a good member of Avalon, I did sign up for one month of The Solari Report ($30) so that I could listen to this "Wrap Up", and it was well worth it. However I have no rights to release for free, public, view what is a members-only product of Solari.com

What I can do is this:

• Share a brief summary that I wrote up, after listening to this "Wrap Up", of a couple of the key points that I found most important.
• Share an outline of the topics that Fitts and Farrell covered in this "Wrap Up". This will be adapted from the members-only side of Solari.com, but hopefully that will be acceptable to Catherine Austin Fitts.
• Share a newly published, public, article by Joseph P. Farrell, in which he summarizes his understanding of the 1990's Rape of Russia and its relevance to what's happening in the United States now.
• Share a link to an important speech, made back in 1999, by Anne Williamson, to the US Congress, describing the 1990's Rape of Russia.
• Share a related article by Brandon Smith, who also expects an economic and financial collapse of the United States, rather than a major World War III military defeat of the United States.

I will do each of the above, one at a time, in following posts below.

I believe that Fitts, Farrell and Smith are roughly correct in their analysis of the current situation and expectations of coming events.

As usual in such times, many controversies and divisions are being driven to a fevered pitch, leading up to major anticipated changes. As some Native American Indians in the central plains of North America learned, it's easier to drive a herd of bison off a cliff in order to harvest some meats and hides for the coming winter if they first panic the herd, getting them running this way and that.

It helps in such times to correctly identify what is the dominant threat to the life, livelihood and well being of ourselves and our families. This thread will endeavor to focus on that threat, especially for Americans, but given the invasive hegemony of the American dollar, intelligence, and military over much of the world this last half century, few on the planet will remain unaffected by these unfolding events.

My fellow American bison: Here is the cliff that awaits us.

The time is coming for cows to realize their inner bison:

[ThePythonicCow]

Here's a summary that I wrote up a few days ago, after listening to Catherine Austin Fitts "1st Quarter 2018 Wrap Up, News Trends & Stories, Part I with Dr. Joseph Farrell". I initially wrote this up in response to another member of Avalon, who had already listened to this Wrap Up herself.

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I largely agree with their analysis. In particular, I like Fitts description, that the elite are now moving aside the "B Team" (Clintons, et al) who have served their role in the events of the last few decades, and are moving in the "A Team", with the intention of Privatizing (or Pirating, depending on your perspective) the resources (mineral, energy, farm land, and labor) of the United States.

This will be yet another example, one of the biggest so far in recorded history, of the sort of pump and dump schemes that the elite have relied on for as long as we know. Russia, in the 1990's, was a prominent and relevant recent example of such rape and pillage of a nation.

I agree with Fitts and Farrell that cryptocurrencies are not the key to freeing humanity from Bankster monetary systems, but rather a "wonderful" new tool in the arsenal of the elite to further enslave, surveil, and control humanity.

I agree that the end of the 30 year bull market in bonds, turning into a rising interest rate regime, is a very significant change, fraught with danger even for the elite, and marking the end of a world economic, monetary, and financial system that the US has enjoyed for these many years.

I am "hopeful" that this change won't be as brutal for the US as it was for Russia in the 1990's, but for a somewhat cynical reason. Russia was, and is, a more hearty beast ... able to take some serious punishment. Think of attacking a wild, enraged, mama bear, with you between the bear and its cubs. You'd better come "loaded for bear."

America has been dumbed down and weakened, mentally, physically, spiritually, and economically, by toxins in our food, water, air, education, news, medicines, and institutions public and private for the last century at least. Also the surveillance and control grid is more extensive in the US now than it was in Russia in 1990. I am optimistic that those who can "keep their head while all around are losing theirs" (adapted from Rudyard Kipling's "If") will get through the rough times. Think of attacking a tired old cow (no self reference intended <grin>.) A good herding dog and a rope should suffice.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Paul (here)
...and are moving in the "A Team"...

Who's in the 'A Team'?

(Delete this post if the answer is in the next installment! )

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Who's in the 'A Team'?

They are not named, in my present understanding. They will be more capable minions of our globalist overlords than the Bush's and Clinton's have degraded into. I would expect that the words "Goldman Sachs" and/or "JP Morgan" will appear on the Curricula Vitae of at least a few of them.

[ThePythonicCow]

Here are the topics that Fitts and Farrell covered in their "1st Quarter 2018 Wrap Up, Part 1", adapted from material on the members-only side of Solari.com (without their explicit permission, but hopefully with their tacit acceptance):

1. Marketing the “Rape of Russia” to North America
2. Rising Interest Rates & Stocks Wild Ride
3. The Squeeze: Budgets, Borrowing and Inflation
4. US Tax Reform & Capital Repatriation
5. The Evolution of Currency: Cash, Petro-Yuan, and Cryptos
6. Trade Wars
7. Ziocon Flu, Swamp Wars & Purges
8. The Pension Fund “Crisis”
9. Putin & Xi Jinping – Here to Stay
10. The Eurocentric Struggle

[ThePythonicCow]

Earlier today, Joseph Farrell followed up this discussion of the Rape of Russia, adapted to America, with this public article on his website: RAPE OF RUSSIA, CONNECTICUT STYLE.

Farrell documents a specific example, happening now, of the privatization fo one little piece of income, the rental income on the government offices of the state of Connecticut, whose state pension funds are under grave duress as in many states and municipalities.

Here are some snippets from this article:

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During our last quarterly "wrap-up," Catherine Austin Fitts and I outlined what we think might be a possible scenario in play: the Rape of Russia, brought home to North America, and marketed to a credulous public in the name of "draining the swamp", "downsizing the government", "privatization", and "conservatism" and so on. The Rape of Russia, you'll recall, was a scheme - hatched at Harvard (another long story) - whereby the Soviet Union's state-run enterprises would be sold off as the economy was "privatized" and "made safe for democracy" and all the other cliches we heard bouncing around at the time. What they were not saying, however, is how those enterprises were auctioned off at pennies on the dollar, or I should say, kopeks on the ruble. Power began to be concentrated in private corporate hands - the so-called oligarchs - while the Russian state dwindled away. Caught in the crossfire, of course, were millions of poorer Russians, left out in the cold, literally. It was the literal rape of Russia...

...until a certain Mr. Putin put an end to the process. It is this fact alone which is sufficient to explain why the western kleptocracy hates him so.

Now imagine the same scenario, but not in Russia, but here. "Impossible!" you might say. Not so. Pay attention to the following story, and how it is being marketed:

Private Equity Firm Offers Cash-Strapped Connecticut $2BN For Government Buildings

The deal is simple enough, at least, on the surface: the city of Hartford and the State of Connecticut need money, and a private real estate developer has offered to buy some buildings from the city and state:

Given the precarious financial circumstances of Hartford, Conn. - not to mention the state as a whole - it's hardly surprising that private investors sense an opportunity to buy up valuable state- and city-owned properties at a good price.

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However, there's one catch: The firm is insisting that it secures a 7.25% annual yield on its investment by raising rents and leasing the properties back to their former owners, according to Bloomberg.

For the record, that's nearly double the 3.43% yield Connecticut pays on 20-year general obligation bonds sold in January.

Yes, you read that correctly: the deal is (1) we will buy $2,000,000,000 worth of your properties, which (2) we will then rent back to you for a 7.25% return on our investment, thus (3) picking up state assets for pennies on the dollar when measured over years of occupancy (and rents) and (4) further indebting the state. In effect, what the "deal" is is a double whammy to the taxpayers of Connecticut, who first paid for those buildings, and who will be paying for them again (and again, and again) in the form of rents!

Oh, and by the way, notice one further marketing ploy: this is all being done to allow Connecticut to fund its underfunded pensions:

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Now imagine the same scenario... on a national scale, as public assets are auctioned off (probably under similar conditions of "guaranteed returns" on investments in the form of rents): roads, bridges, tunnels, airports, parks, buildings, hospitals, schools, libraries, universities, armories (yes, even the military's weapons are just assets folks, which they'd be happy to have the military paying usage fees to use)... you name it, it's all up for sale...

...pennies on the dollar...

But don't worry, we'll rent it all back to you...

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[ThePythonicCow]

A woman named Anne Williamson turned out, thanks to some fortuitous events, to have perhaps the best view of, and insights into, the Rape of Russia in the 1990's. She wrote a book about this, entitled "CONTAGION: THE BETRAYAL OF LIBERTY; RUSSIA AND THE UNITED STATES IN THE 1990s", for which, unfortunately, she has never been able to find a publisher, even now.

She did however present a summary of her findings, to the Congress of the United States, in 1999, and that speech is widely available on the Internet.

Here's one source of that speech, on Solari.com: Testimony of Anne Williamson.

It's rather too long to copy here, with over 46,000 words, providing substantive detail of the events in Russia in the 1990's. I recommend it to anyone who would like to understand one well informed view of what happened then and there, or what, mutatis mutandis, we might have in store for us, in the United States.

[ThePythonicCow]

Brandon Smith, one of my favorite commentators, in another article published today, has come to rather similar conclusions, expressed in his own terms and consistent with what he has been warning us of for some years now.

Brandon Smith's article can be found at: World War III Will Be An Economic War

His article begins:

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There is a mass delusion in the mainstream created I think in large part by too much exposure to movie fantasy and TV fiction. It is an immediate assumption; one that I believe is far more dangerous than many people give it credit for. The assumption is that the next great war, should it occur, will inevitably be a nuclear one, and the doom surrounding it will end everything as we know it. Many people even get excited at the idea of World War III and the notion that it will “wipe the slate clean,” setting the stage for a positive human reformation from the ashes. I’m here to say that this is likely not how things will play out.

There are much more precise and effective weapons than nukes in the arsenal of the establishment globalists that manipulate political systems in various nations.

For example, the use of weaponized economics and false paradigms. As I have warned for years now, a conflict between East and West has been engineered to take place, and this conflict will primarily be an economic one. I outlined this dynamic in October 2016 in my article East vs. West Division Is About The Dollar — Not Nuclear War.

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Brandon concludes, near the end of his article, with these words:
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International financiers and central banks have everything to gain by pulling the plug on life support for stocks, bonds, real estate, etc. at this time. In the midst of a trade war panic, they can pretty much do anything they want without retaliation. All future catastrophe can now be dumped in the lap of any number of scapegoats. Some people will blame Donald Trump and the conservatives that voted for him. Some people will blame China and Russia as the culprits behind our ills. Other people will blame “capitalism” and “free markets” in general for the crisis even though we haven’t enjoyed true free markets in well over a century. But, very few people will blame global banks specifically.

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In a nuclear war, there is only pandemonium. In an economic war, centralized dominance remains possible. The greatest disaster would not be the tragedy of mass unemployment, degradation of infrastructure, loss of monetary stability or loss of reliable food and energy production. No, the greatest disaster would be the continued thriving of banking conglomerates and central bank organizations as large portions of the world crumble. The greatest disaster will be what happens AFTER the collapse — the consolidation of a “new world order,” if the banking elites are not unmasked as the real catalyst behind the next world war.

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Though the United States will be at the epicenter of this economic, financial and monetary collapse, the renewed and reinvigorated grip of the banking elites over humanity will be a grave and lasting problem for all of humanity, unless our overlords and their elite banking minions are exposed instead.

[amor]

When you discover termites in your house, do you invite them to continue chewing in the hope they will one day explode? NO. You EXTERMINATE THEM. Remove the tools of their crewing. Eliminate the Corporations as Entities and their powers which are greater than those of the Individual. Return to JFK's printed currency as Asset Based for the USA and dump the Federal Reserve Debt Based Currency and its RATS. DECENTRALIZE Wall Street trading and return it to SNAIL's PACE. Remove the computerized, faster than light speed-manipulated trading programmed by the collective corporations which conspire to plunder the less well organized traders. They get together, sell in mass, driving the prices down. The small man loses his investment in fear and the dogs come along and buy back their shares at a much lower price. This is how they took over all the corporations which now are the World Government. They hire THINK TANKS to plot their way through theft and take over. Wall Street must be broken up and spread throughout the nation. If you want to invest in a company, write to them and buy their stock and sell it the same way. The Stone Age has distinct advantages, slowing and making less possible the games of takeover in progress. There will be a lot fewer ULCERS born of fear in investors.

[Cara]

The Rape of Russia (and Poland) is also covered in this Guns and Butter interview with William Engdahl, posted by @Helvetic, here:

Posted by Helvetic (here)
F. William Engdahl | Fake Democracy: How Washington Destroyed Poland and Russia in the 1990s | Apr. 4, 2018

Source: GunsandButter.org, Williamengdahl.com

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6XXWXnMqsrQ

[dynamo]

Posted by Paul (here)
...the renewed and reinvigorated grip of the banking elites over humanity will be a grave and lasting problem for all of humanity, unless our overlords and their elite banking minions are exposed instead.

They have been, and are still being, exposed on a daily basis, yet nothing much changes.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to use the term "eliminated" instead of "exposed"?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Searcher (here)
The Rape of Russia (and Poland) is also covered in this Guns and Butter interview with William Engdahl, posted by @Helvetic, here:

Posted by Helvetic (here)
F. William Engdahl | Fake Democracy: How Washington Destroyed Poland and Russia in the 1990s | Apr. 4, 2018

For those who prefer to read rather than (or in addition to) listening, Helvetic has posted an article by F. William Engdahl, on the same topic, that describes the trade and commerce "war" between the American hegemony and China.

See Trump’s China Trade War Has Deeper Agenda

Here's a key conclusion of this article:

Trump, with this trade war, "risks popping the greatest speculative bubble in US stock market history, something that would trigger a financial crisis far worse than 2008."

My conclusion, consistent with my reading of the work of Fitts and Farrell that opened this thread, is that this is as intended by the high minions of our overlords: a financial crisis far worse than 2008.

[Cardillac]

I know the following may seem at first over-simplified but the solution to the problem may actually be occam's razor:

"It is only when the last monarch is strangled by the entrails of the last priest will we finally have peace on earth"- attributed to Denis Diderot

take care all-

Larry

[Foxie Loxie]

Problem is....most people don't know who the "monarchs" are & because of religious programming the "priests" run freely among us!

[halcyon026]

Posted by amor (here)
Return to JFK's printed currency as Asset Based for the USA and dump the Federal Reserve Debt Based Currency and its RATS.

Some info on what JFK was really doing with the US currancy.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cp8Rkl_DcP8

[Cardillac]

@Foxie

a very astute observation from you- but I just think we shouldn't rule out all of the royal families on the planet (they continue to get richer, not poorer) let alone the Vatican (!)- is the Vatican suffering from poverty?- and if/IF there will be an economic collapse we can be sure the last factions that will suffer (if at all) will be the royal families and above all the Vatican-

please take care Foxie and all readers-

Larry

[TargeT]

Posted by Paul (here)
Here's a key conclusion of this article:

Trump, with this trade war, "risks popping the greatest speculative bubble in US stock market history, something that would trigger a financial crisis far worse than 2008."

My conclusion, consistent with my reading of the work of Fitts and Farrell that opened this thread, is that this is as intended by the high minions of our overlords: a financial crisis far worse than 2008.

I'd say that's certainly a possibility, but this alternate take is pretty pointed as well (and makes a LOT of sense...):


Click the link to enlarge it: https://kek.gg/i/3RshK6.png; basically it says that with out the US policing the shipping lanes of the world, and the end of brentton woods agreement (pending, it seems). everyone will hurt WAY more than the US, they all need our consumerism badly.. it's an interesting read and makes a lot of sense (I always wondered why we maintained such a gigantic navy, this makes a lot of sense beyond the ability to project force on land, it's shipping lane security...).

US Navy (430 ships):




I guess we learned from the Royal Navy?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Here's a key conclusion of this article:

Trump, with this trade war, "risks popping the greatest speculative bubble in US stock market history, something that would trigger a financial crisis far worse than 2008."

My conclusion, consistent with my reading of the work of Fitts and Farrell that opened this thread, is that this is as intended by the high minions of our overlords: a financial crisis far worse than 2008.

I'd say that's certainly a possibility, but this alternate take is pretty pointed as well (and makes a LOT of sense...):

Allow me to respond to two of the key points made in this alternate take.

1. The Dominant US Navy is needed to secure commercial shipping.

This alternate take points out that the US has the biggest, baddest, Navy the world has ever seen. The rest of the world combined would have difficulty equaling its fire power and carrier group strength. True.

However, a child could slip a poison into the morning orange juice of a Navy Seal. Asymmetric warfare can be very effective, depending on the objectives.

So, what are the objectives of the US Navy, and of the Navy's of other nations?

The US Navy, from what I can tell, has been primarily used as a provider of "floating military bases", used in regime change operations and in stirring up local conflict in order to maintain control of other, lesser, nations. The other nations of the world have little need for such a Navy, as they go about their various national objectives by other means. Those nations that don't want to succumb to the pressure of having a floating military base just off their shore do need a defense against US Navy carrier groups, and China and Russia both have such defenses, using advanced, high speed, evasive, missiles and various advanced electronic counter measures. So far as I know, the US Navy cannot confidently challenge these defenses near the seacoast of China or where Russia sails in the Arctic, Baltic, Black Sea, or Eastern Mediterranean.

But neither China nor Russia are engaging in world-wide gun boat diplomacy, so neither needs a Navy capable of such.

Your alternate take makes the point (if I read it correctly) that the US Navy has a major mission of keeping the commercial sea lanes safe. Except in the case of keeping the sea lanes "safe" from control by other major powers (such as China or Russia), it takes a far more modest Navy to keep shipping lanes open, and several nations have such Navy's. Commercial shipping will not collapse absent the US Navy. Also a key area of growth for China and Russia is within the Eurasian land mass, with various gas pipelines and silk road initiatives, which require little or no sea power whatsoever to secure.

2. China will collapse like the Asian Tigers did, without the US market.

This second point I will make is actually more persuasive to my mind. The sort of economic capacity and activity that we currently see in Russia and China is building a stronger future. They are not just manufacturing and mining outposts of the American empire.

There has developed a common understanding in Western, especially American, society in recent decades that consumers are the primary way to drive economies. That understanding was part of the story that was told to us, to get us to accept shipping much of our industrial capacity off shore, especially to Asia and Mexico.

This common understanding is, essentially, false. Consumerism can drive economic activity that is focused on profiting from selling into those markets, but there are other ways of driving economic activity, which in the long term build up, rather than tear down, the capacity for even more economic activity in the future. For example, Germany rebuilt its economy in the 1930's by building up its infrastructure and military capacity; it had no grand export trade of consumer goods.

Future economic capacity depends on available resources and on where current activity was focused. Was it focused on infrastructure, engineering degrees and developing trade and commercial relations, or was it focused on suburban McMansions, advanced social indoctrination degrees, fast food, pharmaceuticals, opioids, financial engineering, and the fraud and military hardware needed to run rough shod over other nations?

China is not "toast" if its consumer sales into the US collapse. It has substantial capacity (resources, labor and funding), and it can direct its economic activity elsewhere, such as the Belt-Road-Initiative and similar projects across Asia and nearby landmasses. Unlike US companies relying on the stock market for funding, Chinese companies can take a longer term view, and spend years building up something before it turns major profits, if that is what the controlling committees of China so decide. They have so decided.

Of course, access to sufficient resources (food, minerals, energy, financing) can also limit growth. Costa Rica cannot compete with Russia in almost any way. But that is not the primary constraint on major nations, such as the US, Russia, China, India, and Brazil.

China in particular has a new, young, massive manufacturing and transportation infrastructure, and a new, young, massive educated class of engineers and scientists. They also have near monopolies in some of the essential rare earth minerals, a trillion or two dollars of US Treasuries and other foreign bonds, an epic stash of gold for when the current US Dollar Reserve system collapses, lead positions in alternative trade, financing and monetary associations and systems, and reliable relations with providers, especially Russia, of gas, oil, and overland transportation routes.

Russia was dealt a tough blow in the 1990's, as this thread has been documenting, but they too have immense resources and reliable leadership now. They will no longer allow the US to kick them to the curb. They are becoming the dominant provider of gas and oil in the world, especially to both Europe and China. They have key military abilities able to stand up to the US.

Both Russia and China have been on the short end of the Anglo-American empires for the last couple of centuries. They both have a renewed, determined focus to succeed that the US has lost; the US has turned into the world's bully, still bigger and badder, but now slower, more erratic, and less honest. Russia and China have allies; the US has client states and victims. Both China and Russia now have more stable and effective leadership than does the United States.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by Paul (here)
My conclusion, consistent with my reading of the work of Fitts and Farrell that opened this thread, is that this is as intended by the high minions of our overlords: a financial crisis far worse than 2008.

Exactly.

But, let’s go back to 2008 for a second.

We all know about the derivatives, foreclosures and bailouts.

Then, Wall Street came in and bought up many of the foreclosed homes – all cash. Put them up as rentals, at higher than market value rents. That meant the folks who lost their homes, were having trouble finding affordable rentals, creating more homeless. They (Wall Street) also kept the rentals off the market, which kept the housing bubble going due to lack of inventory. The bubble continues here in California big time.

What’s their goal? . . . .I suspect on the first foreclosure go around, most of those affected were lower to moderate income earners. But there are still a lot of people out there that earn big money. Those who are now buying up all these BIG Dollar houses that the bubble has created. But often these yuppie types earn big money, but also spend big money, so while they have many things, have very little in savings. I was an escrow officer for years, meaning I looked at a lot of loan applications every day. I was always shocked at the couples who each made 6 figures, yet had little savings. IMO, they will be the next victims of this controlled rape of our county.

For me, The Big Question is: Was Trump brought in to make it happen . . . or to keep it from happening???

Fitts/Farrell seem to feel the former; they also feel that Q is helping, by giving us false hope and by Q constantly telling us to trust the plan.

I’m not as convinced.

Fitts/Farrell have said (among others) that it was Putin who put a stop to the rape of Russia.

Is it possible that Trump was brought in for the same reason?

I don’t know the answer and you don’t know the answer. We all have our guesses, hunches and intuition, but no real crystal ball. But, if we continue to share and study and search – with open minds, trying to stay neutral so we can assess the facts without emotion, I believe we can get to the truth.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
For me, The Big Question is: Was Trump brought in to make it happen . . . or to keep it from happening???

My guess is that Trump was brought in to throw the B team under the bus, to attract the support and ultimately the disillusionment of some, more "conservative", Americans, and to make way for the A team's transition to the next new world order.

I suspect that Trump is honestly working on throwing the B team under the bus, and will have some considerable success in that project, but that he will become as Herbert Hoover was, and be blamed for an even Greater Depression.

The plan, always and forever more, seems to be to divide us, on sundry issues and allegiances. Trump is quite well chosen as such a divisive character. I (now of a more "conservative" bias) will end up evaluating Trump's Presidency in sharply different terms than my ex-wife, a reliable California liberal.

Yes, we should trust the plan, that some B team players (e.g. some pedophiles and Muslim Brotherhood traitors, some on the Bush, Clinton, and McCain side) will be cleaned up or removed from power.

But it would be a false hope, in my estimation, to think that our evil bastard Overlords will be dethroned.

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
Fitts/Farrell have said (among others) that it was Putin who put a stop to the rape of Russia.

Is it possible that Trump was brought in for the same reason?

My guess is that Trump is more of the Boris Yeltsin character in this re-enactment of the Rape of Russia play.

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I don’t know the answer and you don’t know the answer. We all have our guesses, hunches and intuition, but no real crystal ball. But, if we continue to share and study and search – with open minds, trying to stay neutral so we can assess the facts without emotion, I believe we can get to the truth.

Exactly.