The Rape of Russia -- Coming to the United States

[Fellow Aspirant]

My guess is that Trump is more of the Boris Yeltsin character in this re-enactment of the Rape of Russia play.

Too true, in my opinion. When The King of Chaos and Disruption has had his opportunity to raze America's confidence to its foundation and is finally seen by his supporters to be parading in the nude, then a true strong man (like a Putin) will be moved in todivide up the country's assets amongst his captains and himself - oligarchs will rule America, in a brazen way.

B.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
But it would be a false hope, in my estimation, to think that our evil bastard Overlords will be dethroned

On the other hand, I don't expect our evil bastard Overlords to achieve final control over humanity, either.

Rather, I expect that the struggle will continue, in perpetuity.

[ThePythonicCow]

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And now for the real, the original, Rape of Russia, from the lips of venerable research F. William Engdahl.

Yesterday, Lars Schall, of the Saker blog, published a new interview with F. William Engdahl, entirely focused on the Rape of Russia, covering the events of the last few decades, especially in the 1990's and early 2000's in which Western, primarily America, powers stole massive amounts of Russian wealth and resources, during and after the downfall of the Soviet Union, which it also caused.

Engdahl's new book, Manifest Destiny: Democracy as Cognitive Dissonance, devotes an entire chapter to this Rape of Russia, and so, as usual for Engdahl, the names, dates, events, details and flow of history roll off his tongue without hesitation or apparent error.

Here's the audio of this interview:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZLVypNN4fHU

There is a full transcript of this interview as well, at The Rape of Russia (theSaker.is).

History doesn't usually repeat, but it sure does rhyme. In the light of hindsight, I anticipate that we will see strong parallels, and revealing differences as well, between the (likely) coming collapse of the American Empire, and the Rape of Russia.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by Paul (here)
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And now for the real, the original, Rape of Russia, from the lips of venerable research F. William Engdahl.

Yesterday, Lars Schall, of the Saker blog, published a new interview with F. William Engdahl, entirely focused on the Rape of Russia, covering the events of the last few decades, especially in the 1990's and early 2000's in which Western, primarily America, powers stole massive amounts of Russian wealth and resources, during and after the downfall of the Soviet Union, which it also caused.

Engdahl's new book, Manifest Destiny: Democracy as Cognitive Dissonance, devotes an entire chapter to this Rape of Russia, and so, as usual for Engdahl, the names, dates, events, details and flow of history roll off his tongue without hesitation or apparent error.

Here's the audio of this interview:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZLVypNN4fHU

There is a full transcript of this interview as well, at The Rape of Russia (theSaker.is).

History doesn't usually repeat, but it sure does rhyme. In the light of hindsight, I anticipate that we will see strong parallels, and revealing differences as well, between the (likely) coming collapse of the American Empire, and the Rape of Russia.

I've always been a fan of Engdahl's. He knows his stuff and presents it in a way that's easy to comprehend. Wasn't familiar with Lars the interviewer, but was impressed. He also appeared knowledgeable and had a good sense of when to ask a question, when to ask for explanation - and most importantly to me, wasn't constantly interrupting.

This is a must listen to understand Putin and Russia today, as well as what could possibly happen in this country.

[shaberon]

Very likely scenario.

Pretty much the same since 19th century "carpetbagging". 1812 repulsed a British attack and rejected the central bank, Andrew Jackson strongly carried this forward, but post-"Civil War" it's been pretty much downhill. Soon we will kill each other for a glass of water when that becomes completely privatized. This is what you get for playing host to a trans-national parasite. We are in its "soft kill" territory, so it will probably be the slow eroding change that moves by small degrees as we see happening.

What's irritating is they confess this swindle every day. They say "We're a Democracy, we promote democracy around the world", which, the Union was founded against democracy, but it is a fair term for the injected parasite.

[AutumnW]

Paul,

Do you recall I have been saying since Trump was elected that he is the American Yeltsin?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Paul,

Do you recall I have been saying since Trump was elected that he is the American Yeltsin?

I don't recall, but like many humans, I probably have a conveniently selective memory .

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Paul,

Do you recall I have been saying since Trump was elected that he is the American Yeltsin?

I hear you Autumn, but I’m trying to stay open to all possibilities.

What IF Trump is the US Putin, and not the US Yeltsin?

While Fitts/Farrell seem to suggest you are right, and I definitely value their opinions (and yours), I still have my doubts about the role Trump is playing and remain “somewhat” hopeful.

Here is what I base my hope on:

** The Military appears to be backing Trump
I do remember when I heard on the Alt Media that there were those in the military that were planning a coup against Obama. My first reaction to that was disbelief. But then shortly after that I watched
as Obama removed quite a few top military leaders from their positions and I began to believe those were the military personnel involved in that planning. Had no prove, except the reasons they were
dismissed seemed so bogus to me. (i.e. one was allegedly caught gambling at an Indian Casino with counterfeit chips! huh). Recently Jerome Corsi in this video
( https://youtube.com/watch?v=9O8VPOd3Dsw) states the Military decided to abort the Coup plan and instead approached Trump to run for President and they would reach their goal legally.

** If Trump were the US Yeltsin, I believe he would be getting more open support from the portion of the DS that wants the rape of US to take place.
From my perspective, up until now, Trump seems to be targeted from just about every direction. (although I must admit, it seems to be about to change), but if it does, it would only be because of a long,
hard road. My memory of Yeltsin was he didn’t have all this opposition coming from every direction.

**My 3rd reason is a spiritual one, which I won’t go into on this thread, as I think this should be left as a political thread.

[AutumnW]

Babara,

It's not totally clear and the comparisons are only approximate. Trump really does strike me as totally self interested though. I kind of doubt the military was planning to overthrow Obama in a coup but I do believe there was some animosity there. The 'overthrow' happened through Cambridge Analytica's highly advanced profiling algorhythms, working on the hopes and fears of people in swing states. They managed to garner a LOT of the protest vote on the left for Trump as well. They swung the election to the right.

Interesting and not coincidentally, in my mind, they also have many military or former military on their board of directors.

For what it's worth, this is how I define the "deep state." It's not super precise but nevertheless this is a rough sketch of what I think went on prior to Trump.

The Demoncrats elite are tied in with the CIA, media and the entertainment industry. They represent more the East Coast estblishment, the financiers, Wall Street. They are kind of loosely what I would call, the Anglo American axis of power.

The Repuglican elite have closer ties to the military and thus...military intelligence. They represent a power structure that is centered geographically more in the West of the U.S. And they are buddies with Saudi Arabia, Israel, and to an extent Russia, just due to the back and forth oil interests ( Rex Tillerson?)

There used to be more back and forth between the Eastern and Western elites but when Obama came to power he pulled away from Israel and then this cleft started to form.

Now, it appears that the military is ascendant. Lucky for Israel, big Oil, fundy Christians and possibly Russia but bad for the entertainment industry, big media, and all of Israel's enemies. Also really harsh for the environment, climate change etc...

Trump, will dismantle regulatory bodies and decimate a lot of protections currently in place and some will be okay with that. He may also kick off horrendous stagflation and usher in an era of Depression.

I am open to the many possibilities both positive and negative.

[Cara]

Posted this on the Space Economy thread, but also relevant here for the second part of interview:

Posted by Searcher (here)
Greg Hunter from USA WatchDog.com interviews Catherine Austin Fitts.

The latest Solari Report, the first quarter wrap up, is an update on the Space Economy. The interview covers this at the beginning and then moves to other topics concerning global control and the “rape of Russia” for the USA...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1H_trIfTEEc

[Pam]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Who's in the 'A Team'?

They are not named, in my present understanding. They will be more capable minions of our globalist overlords than the Bush's and Clinton's have degraded into. I would expect that the words "Goldman Sachs" and/or "JP Morgan" will appear on the Curricula Vitae of at least a few of them.

I agree that the big difference between the A team and the B team will be that the A team will be primarily from Corporate origins. Of course they will continue to need the assistance of the political minions for a while longer, but they are easily bought and paid for these days. I'm going to venture a guess that Jeff Bezos will make the A team.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by peterpam (here)
I'm going to venture a guess that Jeff Bezos will make the A team.

Ah ... but the real question is: Who decides who is on the A team?

[Pam]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by peterpam (here)
I'm going to venture a guess that Jeff Bezos will make the A team.

Ah ... but the real question is: Who decides who is on the A team?

Your right, Paul. I know we are always referring" The powers that be". It really does seem almost impossible that one or a handful of humans can wield that power. Do they have additional help from outside this realm??? I go back and forth on what I think about that. One thing I do know is that most humans will freely give up their right to make decisions and will easily hand over power to anyone labeled an authority or an expert. We, in general, have made this way to easy for them to carry out their plans.

I listened to the Katherine Austin Fitts interview with Greg Hunter and quite frankly it scared the crap out of me. It happened so fast to the Soviet Union.

[ThePythonicCow]

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Joseph P. Farrell, whom I quoted at the start of this thread, along with Catherine Austin Fitts, has an interesting take on what might be the main trigger event to cause the collapse of the world's over extended debt and debt-derivative markets.

In his new article EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK TO DEUTSCHEBANK: SIMULATE A CRISIS, he notes that the European Central Bank (the ECB, based in Frankfurt), has ordered Deutsche Bank (also based in Frankfurt), to prepare a "crisis scenario".

Farrell speculates that the "scenario" that the ECB has asked Deutsche Bank to "simulate" is the "settlement of positions in its (derivative) trading books."

The notional value of the derivatives on Deutsche Bank's books exceeds the annual gross domestic product (GDP) of the United States, and the notional value of all the derivatives held by all the major banks is several times the GDP of the entire planet.

What's more, the major banks are all "lashed together" in this derivatives market; each big bank depends on the other banks to honor settlement terms. As in the quote repeated several times by Qanon, the big banks have decided that "Where we go one we go all." As Warren Buffet has been saying for some 15 years now, derivatives are "financial weapons of mass destruction."

This ECB directive to Deutsche Bank to prepare a "crisis scenario" could be a leading indicator of the means by which the largest financial bubble in recorded human history is burst.

Thus (perhaps) shall the collapse of the United States imperial empire eclipse the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Farrell's article can be found at: EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK TO DEUTSCHEBANK: SIMULATE A CRISIS

[shaberon]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Babara,


For what it's worth, this is how I define the "deep state." It's not super precise but nevertheless this is a rough sketch of what I think went on prior to Trump.

The Demoncrats elite are tied in with the CIA, media and the entertainment industry. They represent more the East Coast estblishment, the financiers, Wall Street. They are kind of loosely what I would call, the Anglo American axis of power.

The Repuglican elite have closer ties to the military and thus...military intelligence. They represent a power structure that is centered geographically more in the West of the U.S. And they are buddies with Saudi Arabia, Israel, and to an extent Russia, just due to the back and forth oil interests ( Rex Tillerson?)

I think you are on to something here and, just to clarify "military intelligence" being especially Navy. I am not too sure how strictly to split it on party/geographical lines, but if you consider it "interest cartels" or something like that, the "similar but different games" start making sense.

[norski]

Paul, thank you for your thoughtful and perspicacious summary of the Fitts, Farrell and Engdahl material.

The extent to which humanity is continually being played is deeply saddening. How to discern the truth of a matter is elusive, to say the least. Some truthseekers throw their hands up and see orchestrated conspiracies everywhere, concluding that there are no good guys in the equation, only puppets. It does seem like there is more coordination behind the scenes than not. Orchestrated arrests? Perhaps manufactured. Nevertheless, there does seem to be a Team A and Team B with oppossing agendas. I suspect that Team A knows it answers to a higher authority that allows them to carry out their agenda. That authority seems content with throwing Team B under the bus. Fine with me. Maybe then we can address some of the rampant pedophelia and child trafficking. But, even if some of those in Team A would like to restore some human values, it seems they must still operate within the higher agenda of the Chessmasters. Fitts, Farrell and Engdahl appear uniquely equipped to see the overarching agenda.

Interesting how Trump, a master at bankruptcy and reorganization, was selected as the current front person for Team A. Team A may temporarily relieve the public’s frustration and sorrow with a deeply corrupt government. They will cheer when bad guys are brought to justice. If the impending mass arrests are real, few will even consider this as supporting the set-up for the privatization of the public sector. Many will think this is the only answer to our collective financial ills. The fallout of this privatization will be much higher prices for goods manufactured overseas. What will America do when a refrigerator costs $5,000? The days of cheap and abundant goods on Amazon will surely disappear. I don’t think anyone is prepared for what is coming.

[Omni]

The cybernetic networks said/implied they planned a false flag to frame Russia, so they can take the Russian military to war. We will see what happens.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Omni (here)
The cybernetic networks said/implied they planned a false flag to frame Russia, so they can take the Russian military to war. We will see what happens.

Perhaps not so false ... Russia, Syria and Iran have just been provoked into possible retaliation against, apparently, Israel: Massive explosions at alleged Iranian facilities inside Syria - 29 Apr 2018

[Bo Atkinson]

Or is it once again, the “good guy - bad guy ploy” , to boost the tricky stock market scenarios, especially for armament and pillaging stocks?

[happyuk]

Viewers of this thread might be interested in the talks given by Yuri Bezmenov, on Russian Subversion & Psychological Warfare Tactics, that if one were to observe closely what is going on around him, would realize are being actively implemented in the West which are being used to undermine and demoralize the people with the intention of installing a socialist tyranny. In this system, the individual has so little rights and freedoms, he is little better than an insect.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0Ol0M6P9LLY

I am personally in no doubt that an attempt is being made to usurp traditional Western culture.

It turns out that Senator Joseph McCarthy knew a thing or two, and of whom history will be somewhat kinder to, longer term.

C.S. Lewis, in his masterpieces "That Hideous Strength" and the "Abolition of Man" alluded to the dangers of this invidious group of moral relativists and traitors summarized by the following 11 tactics of the Frankfurt School:

1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

Common Purpose anyone?