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    Most countries have a checkered and bloody past. UK stands out for becoming the first superpower by defeating the Spanish Armada, and with Oliver Cromwell being the first head of state to use Jewish diaspora for hegemony--all British governments continuing this policy ever since. And in this regard, it was The World Order from those times until the U. S. replaced it. Since they have never stopped Zionism, Wahhabism, King George's Cavalry and all the other systems of moles and economic vampirism, we might observe this as being a bit of rogue behavior.

    They don't have much option, being stuffed under the Bank of England or first arm of an unaccountable international money power.

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    Most countries have a checkered and bloody past. UK stands out for becoming the first superpower by defeating the Spanish Armada, and with Oliver Cromwell being the first head of state to use Jewish diaspora for hegemony--all British governments continuing this policy ever since. And in this regard, it was The World Order from those times until the U. S. replaced it. Since they have never stopped Zionism, Wahhabism, King George's Cavalry and all the other systems of moles and economic vampirism, we might observe this as being a bit of rogue behavior.
    I started digging into this time period you are talking about lately and I've been finding some extremely interesting things. Many different factions at play and not all of them can be easily traced back historically. Even before the English Civil Wars, consider this as an example of the kind of bizarre intrigues that were going on. Remember John Smith, the famous early colonizer of Virginia? You should look at his biography. I'll give you a brief summary:

    John Smith was born to commoner/peasant farmers in England, left England at a young age for continental Europe, ended up fighting the Turks on behalf of the Transylvanians, became known for his exploits against the Turks, was also sold into slavery for a time, and was eventually freed and returned to England. When he returned to England from Transylvania, he was immediately put in charge of the London Company which oversaw the colonization of Virginia. Remember, he was of common birth, and was given precedent over NOBILITY to lead this effort, straight out of the continent and not having even been in England for some time. Are we expected to believe that this is the full story of what was really going on?

    The Transylvanian royal family (which includes Vlad the Impaler, the original "Dracula" among its ancestors) later moved to Germany and merged/became the Saxe-Coburg family from what I understand, which later moved to England and became English royalty.

    John Smith seems to have originally had the title "Hungarianus" in the Latin, but this has been stripped from virtually every historical account. He may not have even been English at all, and had a forged birth story in England just to appear to give him some roots there.

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    A slightly oblique tit-bit

    COTTON

    85% of raw cotton exported from the Southern States of the USA was shipped to the UK, and passed through Liverpool to the cotton mills in the North of England. At that time England built a pre-eminent cotton fabric and garment export trade, globally. The biggest export destination was India. The British, ruling India with an Iron grip, used whatever means necessary to prevent Indians from attaining any self reliance in any industry that would hurt British Industry (hence it was illegal in India to evaporate sea water and make salt).

    The British killed off cotton farming and WEAVING in India - that is why a spinning wheel is on their flag. The way that they stopped it was to go to the weaver's house and cut off their thumbs so they could not spin. There are still people in Calcutta seeking compensation from Britain on behalf of ancestors who lost everything after these assaults.

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    'THE SPIDERS WEB'

    This has been recommended. It sets out how the UK retained power and influence via secret financial structures (offshore) after the end of its Empire.

    Quote The Spider’s Web: Britain’s Second Empire, is a documentary film that shows how Britain transformed from a colonial power into a global financial power. At the demise of empire, City of London financial interests created a web of offshore secrecy jurisdictions that captured wealth from across the globe and hid it behind obscure financial structures in a web of offshore islands. Today, up to half of global offshore wealth may be hidden in British offshore jurisdictions and Britain and its offshore jurisdictions are the largest global players in the world of international finance. How did this come about, and what impact does it have on the world today? This is what the Spider’s Web sets out to investigate.

    With contributions from leading experts, academics, former insiders and campaigners for social justice, the use of stylized b-roll and archive footage, the Spider’s Web reveals how in the world of international finance, corruption and secrecy have prevailed over regulation and transparency, and the UK is right at the heart of this.
    Quote In 1956, with its Empire collapsing in the wake of the Suez crisis, Britain faced political and economic crisis. As Sterling came under intense pressure, the Bank of England took an extraordinary step; without fanfare or public scrutiny it allowed London-based banks to shift their international lending from pounds to dollars.

    Importantly, the Bank chose to not regulate this new ‘offshore’ market since these transactions could be deemed to be happening ‘elsewhere’, even though in reality the trades occurred in British sovereign space. Quite where ‘elsewhere’ is was of no concern to the Bank; the important thing, from the point of view of London banks, was that no other regulatory authority – not even the U.S. Federal Reserve – had the power to regulate this new market, which became known as the Eurodollar market.

    I was born in 1956 and grew up in the British Channel Island of Jersey. As a teenager I witnessed Jersey’s transformation into an offshore satellite of the City of London. In the 1960s, as the Eurodollar market exploded in scale, British banks (not to mention banks from Canada, France, Germany, India, the Netherlands, Switzerland and the United States), rushed to take part in this unregulated bonanza, and then established offshore subsidiaries and branches in Saint Helier where they could book their profitable trades without paying UK taxes.

    Business boomed. And not only in Jersey. With support from British government departments, other British dependencies vied for a slice of the action. Bermuda chased the offshore reinsurance market. The British

    Cayman Islands chased business from North America. Anguilla, the British Virgin Islands, Gibraltar, the Turks & Caicos islands, and others, also piled in to offshore financial services.

    By the mid-1970s, as I left school, the Eurodollar market had grown so big that it was larger than the global stock of foreign exchange reserves. And with wealth pouring in from across the planet, London and its offshore satellites were booming. For the City bankers and their colleagues in Cayman and the Channel Islands it seemed you truly could have your cake and eat it.

    But not everyone was convinced about the merits of this exercise in unregulated financial markets. In February 1978 I joined a working group of Oxfam policy wonks in London. They were discussing the roots of poverty in resource-rich countries African and Latin American countries, and had noticed huge unaccounted outflows of wealth from these continents, almost all of which appeared to head northwards to Europe and North America via offshore secrecy jurisdictions.

    While we didn’t fully understand the mechanisms that enabled these outflows, we had no doubt that the scale of capital flight was so enormous that it was thwarting the development of entire nations. We also had no doubt that the City of London was a major player in this process of looting poorer countries of their wealth and in protecting Britain’s secrecy jurisdiction satellites from political attempts – at the United Nations, for example – to rectify the policy and regulatory flaws that enabled capital flight and tax dodging on such an immense scale.

    In 1979, after finishing my professional training as a forensic investigator, I decided to make tax havens the focus of my research, first at university and subsequently as an offshore practitioner. That explains why, in 1985, I headed south from London on my motorcycle to Portsmouth and then on by ferry to Jersey, where I worked undercover as an insider for almost thirteen years.

    This was the start of a journey into the dark heart of tax havenry, taking me from working for one of the global Big Four accounting firms to being appointed economic adviser to the government of Jersey. Along the way I spoke with hundreds of bankers, lawyers, accountants, officials from the senior Whitehall departments, at the OECD in Paris, and the IMF in Washington, seeing at first hand the downright criminality of the pinstripe infrastructure of professionals who operate from secrecy jurisdictions like Jersey.

    I also discovered that secrecy jurisdictions had moved from being minor players on the economic periphery to becoming the beating core of financial capitalism, with London as its epicentre.
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    Quote Posted by Baby Steps (here)
    A slightly oblique tit-bit

    COTTON

    85% of raw cotton exported from the Southern States of the USA was shipped to the UK, and passed through Liverpool to the cotton mills in the North of England. At that time England built a pre-eminent cotton fabric and garment export trade, globally. The biggest export destination was India. The British, ruling India with an Iron grip, used whatever means necessary to prevent Indians from attaining any self reliance in any industry that would hurt British Industry (hence it was illegal in India to evaporate sea water and make salt).

    The British killed off cotton farming and WEAVING in India - that is why a spinning wheel is on their flag. The way that they stopped it was to go to the weaver's house and cut off their thumbs so they could not spin. There are still people in Calcutta seeking compensation from Britain on behalf of ancestors who lost everything after these assaults.

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    There is a heart warming part to this story. During the American civil war, cotton workers in Manchester refused to work with slave-grown cotton. This meant penury and unemployment for many.

    Even the Manchester guardian plus the bosses tried to persuade them, but to no avail!

    https://www.theguardian.com/theguard...cotton-abraham
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    The Transylvanian royal family (which includes Vlad the Impaler, the original "Dracula" among its ancestors) later moved to Germany and merged/became the Saxe-Coburg family from what I understand, which later moved to England and became English royalty.
    Hadn't looked into that, but Vlad (Serbian I believe) was a Christian knight largely responsible for repelling Islamic invasions.

    The Romans called the Hungarian plain Pannonia; right offhand, I'm not sure where the term Hungarian comes from.

    Smith and Pocahantas have definitely been fantasized over; the real Mrs. Smith used to entertain by performing cartwheels in the nude. I'm not familiar with the overseers of London, Virginia Companies etc.; I don't think they are too far from East India Co. Early American flag designs seem to be close copies of the East Indian flag.

    Queen Victoria said "I don't think we should have done some of the things we did to the Indians", so, she either didn't know about what was going on, or was unable to control it.

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    How about a round of applause for Annie Besant, the lady who inspired Ghandi?!!

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    She's been getting lots of credit on Dark Journalist's fascinating "X" series.
    Starting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m2Q...lzEGUgoH496qay
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    How about a round of applause for Annie Besant, the lady who inspired Ghandi?!!
    She was impressive for being one of the first powerful female public speakers, but was also a bandwagon-jumper. She was strongly influenced by powerful figures around her, particularly C. W. Ledbeater and a Mr. Chakravarti (Indian). Gandhi utterly rebuked Ledbeater and we have spent a long time picking out the lice that Ms. Besant inserted into the books. She moved from staunch atheism to them and what Gandhi called diabolical necromancy.

    In her early days of socialism, she was a Fabian...I don't think she adhered to the machinations of this group, but if you look at it, the Fabians, roughly put, came from nowhere without a plan, but managed to start selling their ideas--and this is largely what led to One World Government/U. N. So they played a massive role in crafting the modern "system" and themselves shortly after World War II faded away. I doubt Ms. Besant understood it as anything but social reform with consideration towards Labor, as both were very young when starting and she moved on in three or four years before they started getting powerful.

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    Thanks, shaberon.....we can count on you to give the correct picture...much appreciated!

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    I would think that Fabian is the most accurate term for the western soft-kill branch, the Rothschild-Rockefeller apparatus, CFR, Anglo-American Zionism and so on; why it's not used eludes me. They are still around but not parading the name.

    Much like the Jesuits, they, themselves are not all that old, but in both cases, they came from nowhere but were able to win a vast pool of resources by selling their ideas. And ever since doing so, they have remained in place until today.

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