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    Default Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14/4/18

    Wow, once again Trump proves he's a made man for the Israeli American department of Offence. Cool.

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    Kevin Shipp was chemically poisoned by CIA ,which puts another spinon the Skripal
    case , though this is not discussed in this presentation. He breaks down the
    deepstate and the shadow government in the US which would be similar in other
    countries to various degrees , operation Mockingbird and more..

    Kevin Shipp: Exposes Shadow Government - ALEX JONES INFOWARS


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    Default Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14/4/18

    Check this someone is incredibly well connected.!! Makes perfect sense as well.!!
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    The actual targets in Syria struck by missiles began one week earlier when President Trump tweeted about plans to remove our troops in Syria:
    This tweet was met by the normal deep state actors like no name traitor from AZ, Graham and the rest of the deep state tools crying. All of the normal actors were loud demanding that our troops stay there and increase in numbers.
    The trap was set as the deep state run black ops in Syria and their ISIS employees attacked innocent civilians as well as claiming to be poisoned via chemical weapons. None of it was true although the white helmets who are employed and paid by the UK staged the event. These white helmets are ISIS are one and the same as well as the source for the many staged videos we regularly are bombarded with.
    McCain has been regularly and secretly meeting with ISIS in their safe houses. Under the guise of USAID he delivers German produced chemical weapons and Chlorine poison which Germany is the sponsor. One of these shipment from Germany to Syria via McCain was intercepted.
    The missile targets were deep state and ISIS chemical production buildings, chemical weapons research labs as well as NTI (surprise suprise guess who sits on the board of that deep state shindig: California’s Gov Jerry Brown, Warren Buffet, Ted Turner....hmmmm),.
    It was a strike organized by Mattis and coordinated with Assad and Putin to smoke out the deep state and its ISIS tools.
    It worked as the deep state mercenaries of the deep state together with these rogue ops mistakenly thought the strikes were directed at Russia and Syria’s facilities.
    All in all it was a successful mission that finally freed the Syria people and its framed president while ISIS is no longer able to kill in their service of the deep state engineered coup.
    In the meantime as always traitor McCain strangely enough is ill again although I’m sure being caught trying to deliver German produced chemical weapons to his ISIS buddies in their safe houses may well cause irritation.
    He will never align with jihadist and US sponsored deep state mercenaries to overthrow another country like he did in Syria, Libya/Benghazi, Yemen and other ones. It’s a wrap - finally!

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    Default Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14/4/18

    Correct me if I am mistaken, but, most governments have a Foreign Ministry accountable to parliament?

    The U. S. State Department is a modern contrivance in the Executive (Presidential) Branch, accountable to the un-elected think tank Council on Foreign Relations, so you can pretty much call it the "Rockefeller Branch". Basically a dictatorship.

    Generally, it has little to do with the branch ingrained in the Department of Defense, which is a much more normal, mainstream, and insidious operation hosted by more conservative "deep state" wealth. This is somewhat restrained by Congress and the fact that some of the military still believes in the Constitution, while at the same time, it is bigger and more dangerous than the "black ops" side, which is dangerous, but easily defeated by anyone who figures them out. These two sides basically hate each other, but will act in cooperation where it serves their interests. Expose them all.

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    Visiting Douma ‘chemical attack’ site: Witnesses
    recall how White Helmets shot the video


    Published on 20 Apr 2018
    As more doubts are raised over videos purporting to show the aftermath
    of an alleged chemical attack in Syria's Douma... an RT crew visits places
    seen in the footage and speaks to eyewitnesses.

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    Whole Douma story was staged’: Journos struggle to find proof of ‘chemical attack’



    Published on 23 Apr 2018
    RT’s Murad Gazdiev highlights a number of eyewitness accounts from Douma,
    Syria that people directly involved in the notorious “chemical attack” video
    actually had no idea about the alleged use of chemicals there.

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    ================================================== =

    Syrian government official accuses UK of helping
    to fake Douma chemical attack | ITV News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHp-XerZet8
    Published on 22 Apr 2018
    A senior Syrian government official has accused the UK of "absolutely" being
    involved in faking a chemical attack in Douma.Faisal Mekdad, the deputy foreign
    minister, told ITV News dead bodies may have been "imported" to stage footage of
    the aftermath of a chemical attack.
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    How to get a 'Russian Bot' label, 101: Just cast
    doubt on mainstream line on Skripal and Syria!



    Published on 23 Apr 2018
    A number of online activists who'd cast doubt over the
    West's narrative are being called Kremlin-controlled.
    Two people in particular have been singled out in
    claims that they're not even real people - but rather
    automated accounts run by the Russian government.
    One of them, Australian blogger of Syrian descent
    Maram Susli joins RT live to speak on the issue.
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    Well, it seems Norway is / has been involved in the Syria war.... is there any Western country that is not?

    Quote Norwegian soldiers trained Syrian militia to fight ISIL and Syrian Gov't Militants Syria
    © Farsnews

    TEHRAN (FNA)- The Norwegian-trained Syrian militia called the Revolutionary Command Army (MaT) allegedly meant to help quell ISIL are waging a war against the Syrian leadership and pro-government forces, a Norwegian daily reported.

    According to Klassekampen, the rebel group is now openly fighting for a regime change in Syria.

    In May 2016, it was announced that Norwegian soldiers were to be dispatched to Syria's neighbor country Jordan to provide "training, counseling and operational support" to Syrian paramilitary groups fighting ISIL as part of the US-led Operation Inherent Resolve.

    In June 2016, the Norwegian parliament also green-lit similar missions in Syria itself.

    While Norway's Syria contribution was formally concluded in March this year, as the mandate formally expired, the exact extent and nature of Norway's involvement was largely kept secret. MaT commander Muhannad al-Talla confirmed to Klassekampen that his group was trained by Norwegians in al-Tanf in Southeastern Syria, where the US also has a base.

    While both Prime Minister Erna Solberg and then-Defense Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide emphasized the mandate was to fight ISIL, ensuring that they "won't endanger the peace process," al-Talla claimed that his Western allies never concealed that his soldiers were to fight both terrorists and the Syrian government.

    "From the very beginning, I've been completely aware that I'm fighting "the ISIL" and the al-Assad forces. (ISIL) is not gone but is clearly weakened. Now the priority is the fight Assad," al-Talla admitted to Klassekampen.

    The al-Tanf Base is a strategic outpost along the main route between Damascus and Baghdad. There, the US has created a so-called 55-square-kilometer safety zone secured by US soldiers with the help of al-Talla's units.

    Within the zone, Syrian army troops have been bombed at least two times by US combat aircraft. At the same time, several rebel groups, including MaT took part in an offensive against government forces after ISIL's withdrawal from Eastern Syria.

    The Free Syrian Army (FSA) Spokesman and Counselor Ibrahim al-Idlibi confirmed to Klassekampen that Norway-trained "militia" took part in the struggle against the government forces, such as the operation "The Country is Ours" carried out in May and June 2017.

    While the Syrian government has managed to reclaim most of the country's territory from ISIL and various rebel groups, MaT leader Muhannad al-Talla is by his own admission not ready to lay down arms.

    "It is true that the current balance of power favors Assad. But we will never let him have peace. Even if he wins the war, we will continue to make his life sad for him," al-Talla pledged.

    Both Muhannad al-Talla and the Norwegian Ministry of Defense denied that Norwegians ever participated in the fight against the Syrian government and its allies. Norway formally ceased its mission in Syria, with the Defense Ministry deciding to focus on Iraq.
    From here: http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13970203001124

    SOTT.net has a helpful list of Norwegian articles covering the topic in their comments on the article:
    Quote A few translated headlines from the Norwegian "Klassekampen" regarding this case:
    From here: https://www.sott.net/article/383678-...d-Syrian-Gov-t
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    Default Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14/4/18

    Paul Craig Roberts writing on April 17th 2018 has this to offer on this situation.

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    “THE CRISIS IS ONLY IN ITS BEGINNING STAGES”

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...inning-stages/

    Written by Paul Craig Roberts; Originally appeared at paulcraigroberts.org

    Many, including Russia’s President Putin, have asked why the US launched an illegal attack on Syria prior to the chemical weapons inspectors examining the site of the alleged chemical attack.

    This popular question completely misses the point. The US attack on Syria is a clear and indisputable war crime against a sovereign country regardless of whether Syria used a chemical weapon in driving the Washington supported terrorists from Douma. No one acted to stop Washington’s war crime. Some of Washington’s vassals, such as Germany and Italy, refused to participate in Washington’s war crime, but no one attempted to block it. The impotent UN Security Council, to which Russia is wasting its time appealing, the EU, NATO, Russia and China themselves did nothing to stop Washington’s Nazi era war crime.

    Russia said that if Washington’s attack harmed its citizens, there would be military consequences, but Russia did not protect its ally Syria from the attack. Perhaps it doesn’t matter as Washington’s attack was carefully conducted so as to have no effect except to serve as a face-saver for Trump. Apparently no one was killed and no damage was done to anything real except to a facility in which anti-venom for snake bites was being produced.

    On the other hand, it does matter, because of the perception that the American presstitutes have created that it was a great victory for America over the evil Syrian government and the evil Russian government that supports them. This perception, which the presstitutes have created with their fake news, justifies the war crime and will lead to more attacks on Syria.

    It is unlikely that the UN Security Council will condemn Washington, which pays 25% of the UN’s budget. Moreover, the Security Council is loaded up with Washington’s vassals, and they will not vote to censure their liegelord. Putin is wasting his time taking the matter to the Security Council, unless his purpose is to prove that every Western institution is completely corrupt. As most informed people already know this, I don’t understand the point of proving the known.

    Putin should read Eric Zuesse’s article before he puts too much faith in the UN. "How US Has Virtually Destroyed UN"

    As I have written on a number of occasions, I admire Putin’s Christian character of sidestepping the beatings he continuously takes from Washington in order to save the world from the massive deaths of a world war. The problem is that by turning the other cheek, Putin encourages more aggression from Washington. Putin is dealing with neoconservative psychopaths. He is not dealing with common sense.

    During the entirety of the Cold War no US ambassador to the UN spoke aggressively and disrespectfully to the Soviet representative as Nikki Haley speaks to the Russian ambassador. During the Cold War no American president would have tolerated Nikki Haley. The crazed bitch would have instantly been fired.

    The Russian government is captured by delusion if the Russians believe that the US government, in which Nikki Haley is Trump’s choice to be America’s spokesperson to the world, in which the crazed neoconservative war monger John Bolton is a principal influence over US military and foreign policy, and in which the President himself is under threat of indictment for wanting to normalize relations with Russia, has any prospect of avoiding war.

    The best chance of preventing the oncoming war is Russian-Chinese-Iranian unity and a defeat for American arms in a regional context not worth the Washington psychopaths launching of nuclear weapons. Until Washington is effectively resisted, Washington’s European vassals, the UN Security Council and the OPCW will stand with Washington. Once Washington experiences a defeat, NATO will dissolve and with this dissolution Washington’s ability to threaten other countries will lose its cover and evaporate.
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    Default Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14/4/18

    Well the German’s might be breaking ranks and following their own path:

    Quote Germany's Largest Public TV News Broadcaster: Syria Chemical Attack "Most Likely Staged"

    A senior correspondent for German state media broadcast ZDF heute stunned his European audience during a report from on the ground in Syria when he gave a straightforward and honest account of his findings while investigating what happened in Douma. The veteran reporter, Uli Gack, interviewed multiple eyewitnesses of the April 7 alleged chemical attack and concluded of the testimonials, "the Douma chemical attack is most likely staged, a great many people here seem very convinced."

    It appears that all local Syrians encountered by the German public broadcast reporter were immediately dismissive of the widespread allegation that the Syrian government gassed civilians, which the US, UK, France, and Israel used a pretext for launching missile strikes on Damascus.

    ZDF heute: The world continues to puzzle over whether the banned chemical weapons were used in Douma. ZDF correspondent Uli Gack is in Syria for us: "you were in a large refugee camp today and talked to a lot of people - what did you hear about the attack there?" Gack responded, "the Douma chemical attack is most likely staged, a great many people here seem very convinced."

    The German ZDF report is consistent with veteran British journalist Robert Fisk's investigation upon being the first Western journalist to gain access to the site in Douma. Fisk reported early this week, "There are the many people I talked to amid the ruins of the town who said they had 'never believed in' gas stories–which were usually put about, they claimed, by the armed Islamist groups."

    ZDF (Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen) is one of Germany's largest and oldest state-owned channels, which is funded in part through citizens paying a household licensing fee, and Heute is perhaps the most visible public news program in all of Germany.

    According to the live report, some witnesses told ZDF that Islamist rebels killed victims with chlorine, filmed the scenes, then claimed an 'Assad chemical attack'. Though interviewing "a great many people [who] seem convinced" that a chemical attack did not actually happen, the reporter did not attempt to censor what he consistently heard from locals who were said to be in the area when the events occurred.

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    From and continues here: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ck-most-likely
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    Default Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14/4/18

    Russian MOD says OPCW confirms no chemical weapons at facility bombed by FUKUS

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    Last week, the fact-finding mission of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) visited a site in the Damascus suburb of Douma to collect samples in connection with the alleged April 7 chemical attack.

    Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the Russian General Staff Col. Gen. Sergey Rudskoy has announced that the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) had confirmed that there were no chemical weapons found at the Barzeh research center in Damascus despite the US officials' claims.

    The official further noted that thousands of people could have died if there was any chemical weapon on the sites that were attacked by the US-led coalition.
    "Immediately after the attacks, many people who worked at these destroyed facilities and just bystanders without any protective equipment visited them. None of them got poisoned with toxic agents," Rudskoy said.
    He said the logic of strikes on alleged facilities with toxic agents in Syria was unclear, because if toxic agents had theoretically been stored there, tens of thousands of people would have died after the cruise missile strikes.

    On US Airstrikes in Syria
    Intelligence data shows that Osa, Kvadrat, Buk, Strela-10, Pantsir and S-125 air defense systems destroyed 46 cruise missiles during the recent US-led strikes on Syria, Rudskoy said, adding that only 13 of 76 reported Western airstrikes hit targets near the Barzah research center in Syria.
    "Obtained intelligence data, objective control from air defense systems, work on the ground and the questioning of witnesses show that Pantsir, Osa, Strela-10, Buk, Kvadrat and S-125... destroyed 46 cruise missiles [in Syria]," Rudskoy said.
    According to Rudskoy, most of the precision weapons were destroyed by the Soviet-era air defense systems developed 40 years ago, with S-125, Osa and Kvadrat among them.

    According to the military official, Russian specialists are examining missiles of the US-led coalition, including Tomahawk, which were captured in Syria to improve Russian weapons.
    "Two [missiles] including Tomahawk cruise missile and a high-precision aviation missile were delivered to Moscow... They are now being examined by our experts. The results of this work will be used to improve Russian weapons," he told a briefing.
    At the same time, air defense expert of the Russian Defense Ministry Sergei Beznogih said that the Russian General Staff showed remains of cruise missiles downed by Syrian air defense systems to journalists.

    "Elements of the sea-based US-made Tomahawk [missiles] and air-based UK-made and French-made SCALP and Storm Shadow [missiles] were displayed," Beznogih said.
    Meanwhile, Col. Gen. Sergey Rudskoy noted that only seven western missiles struck the Syrian Han Shinshar facility, which allegedly housed chemical weapons, not 22 as the Pentagon claims.

    The senior official stressed that chemical weapons were never developed or stored in Han Shinshar, located in the province of Homs, adding that the storage was struck twice, not seven times, as the US side claims.
    "According to the statements of the Pentagon's representatives, 22 missiles hit the above-ground facilities. We registered no more than seven hits, which is shown in the space image," he told a briefing.
    Speaking further, Rudskoy noted that expensive "smart" US missiles only hit outbuildings in Syria which had nothing to do with the army.
    "The expensive and so-called 'smart' missiles inflicted the greatest damage on outbuildings which had nothing to do with military activity," he told a briefing.
    At the same time, according to the senior military official, Russia will supply new air defense systems to Syria in the near future.
    "Russian specialists will continue training Syrian military personnel, and will assist in mastering new air defense systems, which will be supplied in the near future," Rudskoy said.
    Earlier, reports have emerged about an alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria, published by an online Syrian opposition news portals on April 7, claiming that a chemical attack took place in Syria in the city of Douma near Damascus.

    Reacting to the reports, the United States and the European Union said the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad was behind the attack.

    Moscow has called the news reports about the attack "hoaxes" and warned against military attacks against Syrian areas where Russian troops are deployed.

    The Russian Reconciliation Center for Syria representatives inspected the location of the alleged attack and questioned local doctors, who said that they had not received individuals with symptoms of any chemical poisoning.

    However, despite the lack of evidence, the US, alongside France and the UK, launched a massive missile attack against Syria on April 14 in response to the alleged chemical attack in the city of Douma.
    SOTT Comment: If the U.S. media bothered to actual read or do even cursory research, they'd know that the OPCW inspected the Barzeh site in November 2017 and found nothing. And if the U.S. media could use their vision and their ability to count to ten, they would have been able to confirm for themselves Rudskoy's counts of successful missiles, as SOTT's Joe Quinn did immediately after the attack:
    Just for comparison, we estimated 9 hits on Barzeh, 5 on Han Shinshar, and 1 on storage facility. The Russians counted 13, 7, and 2.
    =======================================

    Of course, Trump's "100% hit" could be a smart a$$ plausible deniability statement if the missile-launching countries count being intercepted by Russian air defense as a "hit." After all, those did "hit" something...

    Still, there are the two missiles shipped to Russia which didn't hit anything... never mind the other two registering a launch failure. But those could also be a "hit" on the missiles' designers to tell them to go back to the drawing boards...
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    Default Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14/4/18

    It's true that Barzeh was a "research facility", although I believe it was more at the educational level than a post-grad poison factory. In any case, they didn't have chemical WMD things going on. The place had been abandoned pre-strike, so the approximately 13 Tomahawks that got through, blew up a room full of tables and chairs. It's not a particularly nice thing, but the gall spewing around this strike is astounding. Thoroughly putrid. The "official narrative" has really degraded from the old days of almost-believable "plausible deniability" to just the stench of a corpse that no one can avoid. I mean, at the time, I probably could have been convinced that Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack, but the way they do it now...what is this, a joke?

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    US: ‘105 missiles hit their targets in Syria’ vs. Russian MoD: ‘Only 25 successful hits’


    Published on 25 Apr 2018
    The Russian Defense Ministry has shown fragments of missiles said to have been
    fired in the US-led April airstrikes in Syria. The hole-ridden remnants disprove the
    claim most of the 105 missiles hit their targets, it said.

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    Quote Ron Paul....It was a PR Stunt and we have aligned ourselves with Al Qaeda
    Unintended Consequences Of Trump's Syria Attack

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    Will Russia deliver a more modern air defense system to Syria after the US-led
    attack earlier this month? Will NATO be weakened by increased US support for
    the Kurds? Trump's bombing run over Syria has produced some unintended
    consequences and facts on the ground.

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